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[00:58:18] <mhaberler> cradek: I have a patch candidate ontop of current master: git://git.mah.priv.at/emc2-dev.git branch iocontrolv2-toolchange-gcode-osub-candidate
[00:59:35] <cradek> cool! looking.
[01:02:58] <cradek> having trouble understanding 30cd9d177
[01:03:57] <cradek> it's for masking messages in general, nothing in particular to do with tool change?
[01:04:23] <mhaberler> still trying to find, not familar with the hash search
[01:04:33] <cradek> gitk 30cd9d177
[01:04:42] <cradek> git log -1 -u 30cd9d177
[01:05:42] <mhaberler> yes, you are right. Just got overwhelmed by debug output so I added that in the middle
[01:06:02] <cradek> ok, it made sense as soon as I realized it wasn't about tool change
[01:06:19] <mhaberler> no, strictly interp output control
[01:07:12] <cradek> what calls emcAbortCleanup?
[01:08:29] <cradek> oh I see it, it's in a previous commit
[01:08:41] <cradek> I think you need to reorder those? the call is 4 commits before the definition
[01:08:42] <mhaberler> really just a wrapper around interp.on_abort(); I think i did this because of interp visibility
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[01:09:23] <mhaberler> yeah, interp aint visible from iotaskintf.c
[01:09:48] <mhaberler> uh
[01:10:06] <mhaberler> I'll rebase that one
[01:10:18] <mhaberler> -i that is
[01:10:28] <cradek> I didn't try to build e0d97a110 but I'm pretty sure it won't
[01:10:52] <cradek> the most important reason to have all commits buildable is to not break git bisect for poor future debuggers
[01:11:15] <mhaberler> i see
[01:11:29] <mhaberler> is there a standard way to test for proper sequencing?
[01:11:57] <cradek> I don't know of an easy way
[01:12:08] <cradek> seems the only way would be to try to build each one
[01:12:14] <mhaberler> ok, will do
[01:13:18] <mhaberler> let me do that, I'll fix these things and bug you when I'm sure it's ok
[01:13:27] <cradek> ok :-)
[01:13:32] <mhaberler> probably tomorrow or sat
[01:13:39] <cradek> big rebases can be a pain
[01:14:00] <cradek> let me look through the rest
[01:14:25] <cradek> too bad you can't have docs patches with this stuff - it's major user-visible changes - but we can do that later after psha's merge
[01:15:27] <mhaberler> yes I know, but saw no sense in learning lyx for a week or so ;-)
[01:15:48] <cradek> I agree strongly
[01:15:52] <mhaberler> well, with unchanged configs nothing *should* be visible (famous last wordds)
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[01:17:23] <cradek> the way you do the O-call is surprisingly simple
[01:18:07] <mhaberler> I guess I'll squash 8a3f4575e4c1dbca4712ce56c7a0f083ec4f01d5 into e0d97a110a5ab7a039d592b2874899f2c6a9f7ed
[01:18:09] <cradek> settings has the O stack etc?
[01:18:35] <mhaberler> re simplicity: that's what me as well as psha are a bit wary about
[01:18:57] <mhaberler> yes, the only non-obvious thing was to get the file pointer right for return
[01:19:07] <cradek> yes I see it
[01:19:21] <cradek> wish I knew enough to think of how to try to break it :-)
[01:19:53] <mhaberler> there are enough candidates out there who'll do that for you
[01:22:50] <mhaberler> btw the surprisingly simple approach took 5 throwaway branches to arrive at..
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[01:26:27] <mhaberler> the extra NML messages create a lot of patch noise, but they are mostly boilerplate c&p
[01:26:56] <cradek> trying to understand the fault handling - seems like it can abort or continue?
[01:27:03] <mhaberler> exactly
[01:27:16] <cradek> how do you specify?
[01:27:17] <mhaberler> positive fault code - can continue
[01:27:22] <mhaberler> negative - will abort
[01:27:49] <mhaberler> comes in through hal toolchanger-reason
[01:28:01] <cradek> oh ok
[01:28:22] <mhaberler> my assumption was the tc will know that it's in a 'oh shit' state
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[01:30:27] <cradek> if the user does not connect the pin, seems like the default "reason" will be 0
[01:30:39] <cradek> what if it's neither pos or neg?
[01:31:07] <mhaberler> yes.. I ran into that.. let me look that up
[01:31:11] <cradek> you could easily set the default to -1 (just write to the pin)
[01:31:19] <cradek> or, better, make 0 also abort
[01:31:23] <mhaberler> that for one, yes
[01:31:43] <cradek> I have a strong preference for default = abort
[01:31:54] <cradek> big disaster avoidance
[01:32:07] <mhaberler> I *think* thats what it does, but let me make sure
[01:32:13] <cradek> thanks
[01:32:23] <cradek> I think those are all my comments, sorry for more work
[01:32:45] <mhaberler> yes, see
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ToolchangerProtocolProposal section Communicating a toolchanger fault to EMC
[01:32:49] <mhaberler> near bottom
[01:33:15] <cradek> aha ok
[01:33:16] <mhaberler> you'll have to explictely set to a positive value so as not to abort
[01:33:20] <cradek> good deal
[01:34:11] <mhaberler> fair enough. thanks for the patience! I revert to introspection ;-) (actually crash for today), but as he says 'I'll be baaack'
[01:34:49] <mhaberler> actually I leave about 10 miles from Arnold Schwarzenegggers birth place..
[01:35:27] <mhaberler> well thanks & cu
[01:35:28] <cradek> I live about 10 miles from ... a circle of things
[01:35:33] <cradek> thanks, goodnight
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[14:23:18] <skunkworks> I cannot believe people are talking about using ide interfaces. Are not those going away also?! ;)
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[14:41:32] <archivist> skunkworks, dunno are cdroms and dvd drives moving to sata?
[14:47:40] <alex_joni> archivist: long time ago they did
[14:47:54] <alex_joni> the latest mobos I looked for hardly have any IDEs on them
[14:48:04] <alex_joni> maybe only one if you're lucky
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[15:16:02] <skunkworks> I have been buying a lot of these for computer upgrades
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5466797&CatId=2417
[15:16:13] <skunkworks> 1 parallel and 1 ide
[15:16:56] <skunkworks> pretty zippy - I think that is what I put in the k&t also (just a 2 core though ;)) at the time it was 89 or 99 dollars
[15:17:33] <skunkworks> actaully - I think it was this bundle in the k&t
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6498211&CatId=2417
[15:17:45] <skunkworks> (same motherboard)
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