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[09:10:29] <mhaberler> psha: hi!
[09:10:30] <mhaberler> I did some more bells and whistles, including a g-code exception handler (wee-haw!)
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[11:21:16] <psha> mhaberler: i'll take a look in the evening
[11:21:24] <mhaberler> fine, thanks
[11:21:40] <mhaberler> I think I'll have a jog-during-toolchange demo added by then
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[12:10:57] <jthornton> if you move say the X axis in the positive direction then touch off does EMC then reapply the backlash compensation? Which would be wrong as backlash has been taken up by jogging...
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[12:43:34] <jthornton> anyway a guy on the forum noticed that because he has a considerable amount of backlash compensation
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[13:24:48] <archivist> if the switch had no hysteresis the software could double check the backlash compensation
[13:26:38] <jthornton> by touch off I mean he set the axis zero with the touch off button on axis
[13:27:08] <cradek> touch off is not really related to backlash comp
[13:27:22] <cradek> with backlash comp every axis position has two motor positions
[13:27:43] <cradek> like '7 approached from the left' and '7 approached from the right' where 7 is some desired axis position
[13:28:13] <cradek> touch off can be used to set an origin at 7
[13:28:37] <cradek> touch off (and all of emc related to gcode) doesn't know or care whether you got there from the right or left
[13:29:05] <jthornton> what he is seeing is a jerk when he touches off and when he removed the backlash correction it goes away
[13:29:24] <jthornton> he did have a large correction due to a worn screw
[13:30:14] <cradek> interesting
[13:30:32] <cradek> thanks for the actual problem description :-)
[13:30:42] <jthornton> sorry for delaying it
[13:31:02] <cradek> that's something we could try in sim
[13:31:43] <cradek> it may be related to changing between free and coordinated modes, not touch off
[13:32:17] * jthornton gets ready for work
[13:32:21] <cradek> I should too
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[18:22:51] <mhaberler> is there any good reason why M66 L0 (WAIT_MODE_IMMEDIATE ) only works for *analog* pins?
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[18:25:45] <cradek> mhaberler: my testing shows m66 p0 l0 works fine
[18:26:08] <cradek> to immediately read motion.digital-in-00
[18:26:10] <cradek> bbl
[18:26:39] <mhaberler> interesting.. manual says: # Mode 0 is the only one permitted for an analog input.
[18:26:49] <mhaberler> I'll have to retry, maybe my bug
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[18:28:35] <micges> logger[psha]: czesc
[18:28:35] <mhaberler> btw: toolchange-by-oword subs is ready for a test drive
[18:28:35] <mhaberler> will post later on mailing list
[18:28:35] <micges> mhaberler: hi
[18:28:35] <SWPadnos> mhaberler, "only one permitted for analog", not "only permitted for analog"
[18:28:35] <micges> what is your problem?
[18:28:35] <micges> logger[mah]: hi
[18:28:35] <logger[mah]> micges: Log stored at
http://emc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23emc-devel/2011-02-15.html
[18:28:35] <SWPadnos> ie, you can't use anything else with an analog input (no waiting for high or low ...)
[18:28:35] <mhaberler> SWPadnos: thanks for the radig help.. duh..
[18:28:35] <mhaberler> reading
[18:28:38] <SWPadnos> heh. np
[18:29:27] <mhaberler> micges: my problem are english reading skills, it seems
[18:29:53] <micges> oh ok ;)
[18:30:01] <seb_kuzminsky> is there a way, in the .ini file, to specify that one of the [HAL]HALFILE lines is optional, and if that .hal file fails to load, to continue starting up emc2 anyway?
[18:30:14] <SWPadnos> not that I know of
[18:30:46] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah that's the impression i got from the docs
[18:30:53] <seb_kuzminsky> bummer
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[18:32:14] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe the twopass stuff could be made to serve somehow...
[18:32:53] <SWPadnos> make it accept something like HALFILE=flags filename
[18:33:06] <SWPadnos> which might work anyway, come to think of it
[18:33:23] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[18:33:27] <SWPadnos> HALFILE=filename.hal -k
[18:33:43] <SWPadnos> I don't know how the quoting works though
[18:33:48] <SWPadnos> so YMWV
[18:33:58] <seb_kuzminsky> wow
[18:33:59] <seb_kuzminsky> tcl
[18:34:02] <seb_kuzminsky> wow
[18:38:05] <seb_kuzminsky> looks like "emc -k" enables -k globally for all halfiles
[18:39:28] <SWPadnos> makes sense
[18:40:20] <seb_kuzminsky> cool, that works
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[19:53:41] <cradek> at 1mm radius, what rpm gives 1m/min surface speed?
[19:53:54] <cradek> I'm afraid it's not 1, 10, or 100 :-)
[19:54:57] <archivist> available rpm is often a problem :)
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[19:56:52] <cradek> assume a perfectly spherical lathe
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[20:18:39] <cradek> jepler: do you want to see/test fixes to CSS before I push to 2.4 branch?
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[20:26:20] <alex_joni> cradek: 1000?
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[20:27:19] <archivist> less alex_joni
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[20:27:46] <micges> cradek: may we see patches ?
[20:27:57] <cradek> sure
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[20:28:35] <cradek> http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/0001-Fix-several-problems-in-G96-CSS-mode.patch
[20:28:49] <cradek> pleeeease test it
[20:28:52] <cradek> it's a mess
[20:35:27] <alex_joni> archivist: less?
[20:35:40] <archivist> a lot yes
[20:35:44] <alex_joni> ah, right
[20:35:50] <alex_joni> / 2pi
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[21:27:03] <mhaberler> psha: any surprises ?
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[21:30:18] <psha> fetching new stuff
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[21:33:01] <psha> hm, ON_ABORT_COMMAND is called on every abort? or only for toolchanger?
[21:33:16] <psha> ah, in emcIoAbort
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[22:20:06] <mhaberler> psha: is this stuff making any sense?
[22:21:15] <psha> no, i'm just looking here and there trying to figure out what's happening :)
[22:21:31] <mhaberler> got it to run?
[22:22:55] <mhaberler> yes, the ON_ABORT_HANDLER is way too chatty and indiscriminatory in its actions; however some recovery is needed; synch would have been an option too
[22:23:15] <psha> no, i've killed gtk-dev some days ago so now emc refuses to compile ;)
[22:23:35] <psha> i was fixing some stuff in clutter based program and needs some packages from experimental :)
[22:24:18] <mhaberler> oh. self-mutilation.
[22:24:36] <mhaberler> ready. aim.shoot. aaaaaaargh... my foot.
[22:27:06] <psha> there were some wierd segfaults - experminetal is really not for everyone :D
[22:28:02] <mhaberler> real men dont use stable. They use FORTRAN.
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[22:54:15] <psha> mhaberler: heh, you've placed third while(FINISHED) execute; loop :)
[23:01:14] <psha> mhaberler: i'll continue investigation tomorrow :)
[23:01:15] <psha> bb
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