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[17:59:39] <skunkworks> https://www.osadl.org/Real-time-Ethernet-round-trip-time-histo.qa-latencyplot-r3s3e.0.html
[18:00:24] <skunkworks> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DIY-CNC/message/30900
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[18:03:56] <cradek> Sign in to Yahoo!Sign in to Yahoo!Sign in to Yahoo!
[18:04:25] <skunkworks> aww - crap. sorry
[18:04:35] <cradek> skunkworks: pastebin if it's important?
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[18:05:48] <jepler> .. and 0 lost packets?
[18:05:50] <skunkworks> cradek: http://pastebin.com/9fUwcE0e
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[18:07:03] * cradek whispers, "just use a pci slot"
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[18:07:21] <psha> jepler: any reasons for lost packets?
[18:07:59] <psha> i guess computers are sitting on one switch and link bandwitch is not exausted
[18:14:42] <psha> jepler: what's current docs todo list? configure & submakefile integration?
[18:14:53] <psha> and old-style names for html docs?
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[18:32:56] <skunkworks> cradek: I agree. :)
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[18:59:24] <cradek> it's funny that the problem will change from 'find a compatible parport card to put in a pci slot' into 'find a compatible ethernet card to put in a pci slot' after MUCH work
[19:00:59] <cradek> but if you're in the business of selling this kind of thing, which I am certainly not, selling what a customer thinks he wants is probably a very useful strategy.
[19:01:33] * skunkworks thinks cradek signed up for diy-cnc
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[19:01:56] <cradek> ?
[19:02:04] <cradek> heh did someone else say the same thing?
[19:02:29] <skunkworks> heh - I thought you where reading though the whole thread. there have been 50 or more posts on the subject...
[19:02:39] <cradek> nope
[19:03:27] <skunkworks> it started out with someone asking if there was a circuit he could build to run a stepper from usb. And you can imagine what happened next... ;)
[19:03:37] <cradek> bleh
[19:03:56] <cradek> how about a 555 circuit that runs on the 5v from the usb?
[19:04:41] <cradek> usb is a great source for a tiny amount of 5 volts
[19:05:04] <skunkworks> I have used it :) for the (gasp) pluto. :)
[19:05:45] <skunkworks> 1A isn't it? max
[19:06:22] <cradek> I think there are different choices - a device can 'negotiate' for more current somehow
[19:06:27] <cradek> not sure what the full max is
[19:06:43] <psha> cradek: i believe that at least now finding compatible eth card is more simple
[19:06:49] <skunkworks> that is sounding right
[19:11:48] <cradek> "So I am anxiously waiting for some news from Mesa on this matter."
[19:12:06] <cradek> (I think their news is to use a pci card, and the news is many years old)
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[19:35:43] <archivist> some of the portable disk drives use two usb sockets to get a bit more current
[19:39:40] <psha> skunkworks: max current is 500ma but usually it's possible to drain a bit mroe
[19:39:46] <psha> s/mroe/more
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[21:22:03] <mshaver1> cradek: The one true answer is PCI-E over cable. That is until the next technology turning...
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[21:39:20] <cradek> yes but I can't make that work with my 10 year old laptop with an investment of no more than $5
[21:42:14] <cradek> that's a snide way of saying that even I scoffed at the price of that setup -- I don't see why it's better than plain the old PCI card setup which is much cheaper
[21:44:03] <skunkworks> but but pci is going away! ;P
[21:50:59] <mshaver1> cradek: The issue is that (hopefully) it gets cheap. I w(c)ouldn't afford it now either, but it's coming, I hope...
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[21:52:49] <mshaver1> I don't know why we don't just have some fancy optical cable thingy that's super fast and hooked right up to a set of CPU registers!
[21:54:01] <mshaver1> Also, I thing Intel should add special hardware for us specifically to support real time control. Yep. They should get right on that.
[21:54:36] <psha> mshaver1: heh, hope that woun't be minipcie :)
[21:54:44] <mshaver1> In their CPUs I mean.
[21:54:58] <psha> where some devices use only integrated USB lanes ;)
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[22:28:58] <CIA-2> EMC: 03mshaver 07v2.4_branch * r62917b8d29c1 10/configs/smithy/ (naiky.hal naiky_test.hal): Update pendant support to match the shipped hardware version.
[22:30:17] <mshaver> I have another commit that adds a clock output pin to the siggen component. Should I put it in v2.4_branch, or master?
[22:34:03] <psha> is it bugfix? :)
[22:37:35] <mshaver> No, a new feature. That's why i figure it goes in master. But then again, it doesn't break backwards compatibility either; it's a pretty benign change.
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[22:39:31] <skunkworks> clock output?
[22:40:33] <psha> hm, i need some bit pin which is flagged when it's too late...
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[22:40:49] <psha> bb all
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[23:08:45] <mshaver> skunkworks: I needed a bit type output rather than a float type like the square wave output.
[23:11:56] <cradek> new features go in master
[23:12:21] <cradek> new today will still be in 2.5...
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