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[01:25:43] <PCW> I did test the PID fix (well I had to fix my fix) both for positive and negative gains and it work as expected
[01:25:45] <PCW> but I suppose another fix is to add a comment to the manual page that negative gains dont work
[01:25:57] <PCW> (worked)
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[13:55:56] <cradek> weird about igor's rotary. I wonder what was wrong before.
[14:02:22] <archivist> I have a slight wish that one day we can use F as a speed knowing the radius we are at
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[14:23:49] <skunkworks> cradek: your youtube channel came up as youtubes 'We've found some channels you might like' section :) right next to florence + machine and pomplamoose!
[14:37:35] <archivist> I get odd peaks in people subscribing to mine, months with none the 3-5 close together
[14:39:29] <cradek> archivist: that would be a lot like lathe FPR and seems possible to do
[14:40:09] <cradek> well... sort of like FPR - not really I guess.
[14:40:47] <archivist> cradek, dunno about the center touch off, would need some control or world view
[14:41:06] <archivist> do it this way!....
[14:41:31] <cradek> yeah you'd need to use homing to establish the center(s) of rotation, just like we do with 5 axis kins machines
[14:42:05] <cradek> I guess with lathes we can (now) establish radius with offsets
[14:42:14] <cradek> I haven't thought this through (obviously)
[15:05:23] <cradek> consider g0 x10 a3600; g1 x0 a0 f10
[15:06:23] <cradek> this move would increase in speed throughout
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[15:07:11] <cradek> pcw_home: can you make a git patch so we can get your pid fix incorporated?
[15:07:39] <pcw_home> I'm no C programmer
[15:07:53] <cradek> same here
[15:08:03] <cradek> but you made and tested a fix...?
[15:16:11] <pcw_home> Yes tested with both positive and negative gains (Matts spindle velocity loop started with negative gains and I
[15:16:12] <pcw_home> fixed his low torque at low speed problem by adding -IGain. Thats when the problem was discovered
[15:16:14] <pcw_home> I also have a 1 axis normal position loop setup to testing the 8I20 with EMC (with positive gains)
[15:16:16] <pcw_home> I wasn't sure about multiplying 32x64 bit floats so made a tmp3 , assigned it the *(pid->igain)
[15:22:20] <jepler> assuming you worked from a git tree, you can 'git commit file-you-changed.c', enter a commit message, then 'git format-patch -1' and upload the 0001-commit-summary.patch file to somewhere like pastebin.com or e-mail it to the list as a message body or attachment.
[15:22:33] <jepler> that way we know for certain the exact change that you made and tested
[15:25:46] <pcw_home> OK
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[15:30:27] <psha> jepler: or 'git commit .' - that will commit all changed files
[15:30:52] <psha> jepler: i've played a bit with translation of images and it's definitely possible
[15:30:55] <psha> and simple
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[15:31:23] <psha> http://psha.org.ru/tmp/svg2po/
[15:31:37] <jepler> psha: let's put that aside until the asciidoc stuff is integrated
[15:31:47] <jepler> rather than adding one more thing to do before the asciidoc switch
[15:32:12] <psha> sure
[15:32:25] <psha> i've mentioned that since it influences fr/ layout
[15:35:09] <jepler> it seems like not renaming them into an fr/ layout right now is the easiest way to move forward.
[15:35:20] <psha> right
[15:35:29] <psha> so let's do it in two steps
[15:35:38] <psha> first - plain conversion
[15:35:55] <psha> second - translation layout changes (if needed)
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[15:36:15] <seb_kuzminsky> good morning
[15:36:18] <jepler> hi seb
[15:36:37] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks for the axis jog fix jeff
[15:36:40] <jepler> sure
[15:36:49] <jepler> thanks for the clear bug report, and repeating it after I ignored it for a few weeks
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[15:41:18] <jepler> psha: (I haven't recently looked at the actual state of the asciidoc branch) will you rebase asciidoc to get rid of the renaming of the fr/ files?
[15:41:42] <jepler> bbl
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[15:58:29] <psha> yes, i'll try to do it
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[18:09:31] <IchGuckLive> psha: problem accourd a second time ,from yesterday
[18:10:14] <IchGuckLive> seams that the Oword integrety is not checkt Hardy 8,04 and 2.3.3
[18:10:31] <IchGuckLive> maybe i shoudt upgrade the pc
[18:14:46] <psha> at least EMC - ususally it's ok to run 2.4 on hardy
[18:15:35] <IchGuckLive> i gone check this if the first training session is over
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[18:33:36] <archivist> IchGuckLive, if they write an infinite loop in gcode.....
[18:34:43] <IchGuckLive> yes 4times the same Oword number for instance
[18:35:32] <archivist> cant blame emc for faulty code
[18:35:41] <IchGuckLive> he wrote one pocket while loop and copieed this but did not change the O-number and then relodet the G-code -> Crasht the system
[18:36:40] <IchGuckLive> only for Bug report to the devels
[18:36:54] <archivist> stuck in a loop as programmed is not a crash
[18:38:04] <IchGuckLive> is there a outcome to this so i can stop this ?
[18:38:41] <archivist> its a lesson people need to learn too, write good code
[18:39:02] <IchGuckLive> therfore im payd
[18:39:16] <IchGuckLive> to theatch this to the kids
[18:40:12] <archivist> you may need an infinite loop on a machine, so emc cannot decide for you
[18:41:00] <IchGuckLive> no what i mean is to stop it after pressing relod G-code
[18:49:03] <IchGuckLive> ok by for me
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[18:53:45] <psha> :( i've worked on asciidoc migration too long without feedback... now that branch is horrible mess
[19:17:12] <cradek> you can press escape to stop the loading of a program
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[19:34:14] <cradek> do we have docs that show correct servo thread ordering?
[19:34:49] <cradek> psha: what feedback are you waiting for? is there anything I can do?
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[20:25:23] <psha> no, i'm just complaining loudly ;)
[20:25:33] <psha> facing huge rebase :)
[20:25:41] <cradek> yuck
[20:35:04] <psha> wow, git rebase feature improved a lot in last two years!
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