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[00:48:23] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks jeff
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[08:41:25] <CIA-2> EMC: 03cmorley 07pncconf * r9aeb0f470d85 10/ (267 files in 67 dirs): Merge commit 'origin/master' into pncconf
[08:41:26] <CIA-2> EMC: 03cmorley 07pncconf * rc6d7058aec71 10/src/hal/components/mux16.comp: update documentation of mux16
[08:41:27] <CIA-2> EMC: 03cmorley 07pncconf * r171c43ada297 10/src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/pncconf.py: fix segmentation fault when selecting PDM
[08:41:28] <CIA-2> EMC: 03cmorley 07pncconf * r16ac562e0118 10/src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/pncconf.glade: add tppwm gen spinbox to mesa page
[08:41:32] <CIA-2> EMC: 03cmorley 07pncconf * rebe89c2bfd61 10/src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/pncconf.glade: change page adjustment to zero on spinboxes
[08:41:33] <CIA-2> EMC: 03cmorley 07pncconf * r1fed46b706aa 10/src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/ (pncconf.glade pncconf.py): remove limit/home selection add blcd selection
[08:48:30] <psha> mhaberler: good morning
[08:48:43] <mhaberler> hi!
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[09:03:24] <CIA-2> EMC: 03micges 07joints_axes3 * rbd1d1a1b8777 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): touchy: update sim configuration to work in ja3
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[16:11:07] <skunkworks> twice now motion control has tried to talk to me while I have been away.
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[16:46:23] <alex_joni> motion control?
[16:48:07] <micges> ?
[16:49:06] <jepler> I assume he means the person with that irc nick
[16:49:47] <micges> oh
[16:51:31] <skunkworks> yes
[17:12:06] <cradek> I wish he would ask his questions in the channel
[17:15:36] <skunkworks> what is what I was going to do.
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[17:33:42] <psha> jepler: i need your advice again :)
[17:34:18] <psha> if moving translations into separate dirs then there is small issue with images
[17:34:23] <psha> i see two ways
[17:34:44] <psha> first - provide full path (e.g ../../gui/axis_2.3.png)
[17:34:59] <psha> second - move all images into 'images' subdirs and make symlinks
[17:35:06] <psha> so image paths will be same for all
[17:36:54] <jepler> hm
[17:37:20] <jepler> the images/ approach requires symlinks? I am not excited about that.
[17:37:40] <psha> third way is to use 'imagesdir' attribute
[17:37:56] <jepler> so for images that have embedded text, what would the naming convention be?
[17:38:03] <jepler> there must be at least a few of those
[17:38:21] <psha> at least now they are named like axis_2.3_fr.png
[17:38:39] <psha> and several other _fr images
[17:38:49] <jepler> how many problems we're facing go away if we decide not to rename the x/y_fr.txt files to fr/x/y.txt ?
[17:39:01] <jepler> it seems a bit like it's creating MORE problem that in solves
[17:39:25] <psha> hm, good question...
[17:41:39] <psha> docs trees became more identical so checking for diffs will be more easy
[17:41:49] <psha> but that was not a problem
[17:42:50] <psha> most important thing for me was that it may be easily taken out of tree for translation via web-tools like wiki and then merged back
[17:42:58] <psha> surely it's possible with _lang suffixes too
[17:44:51] <psha> also it's possible to preserve links
[17:45:03] <psha> so link structure in english docs may be same in translations
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[17:50:43] <archivist> having lang/... makes a few things dead easy
[17:50:49] <jepler> when anchor names are heading names they won't match up
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[17:51:45] <psha> jepler: i've preserved anchors from LyX
[17:52:18] <psha> so now they are persistent
[17:52:31] <psha> archivist: yes... but how to deal with images?
[17:52:45] <psha> archivist: offtopic, i've added old logs to search
[17:53:22] <archivist> images should not be aproblem as the translation would have its own lang image wouldnt it
[17:53:37] <psha> lang images - yes, but there are lot of common images
[17:53:44] <jepler> hopefully a substantial fraction of images don't have any words on them
[17:56:07] <psha> heh, it's possible to write translations for SVG files :)
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[17:59:31] <psha> so maybe it's solution for schemes
[17:59:32] <archivist> just put all en and no words in \ \en\ root, only need translated in any other \fr\etc
[17:59:43] <jepler> bbl
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[18:17:14] <IchGuckLive> hi i run into a problem today
[18:17:32] <IchGuckLive> i use emc2 for trainiees in a big facrory in germany
[18:18:21] <IchGuckLive> one of my student did 2 times the onumber in one programm for a while loop and the PC went down
[18:19:02] <IchGuckLive> i checkt id on a other it gives no error when there where more then 2 exact onames
[18:19:17] <IchGuckLive> the pc simply wents down
[18:19:30] <IchGuckLive> ubuntu 10,04 32 bit
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[18:21:54] <psha> is it reproducable on same computer?
[18:22:41] <IchGuckLive> i check it tomorrow for you
[18:23:15] <IchGuckLive> it wars on a othere PC after the students had left that i checkt it
[18:24:02] <IchGuckLive> and there the same miss
[18:25:15] <IchGuckLive> but is it checkt that there is only 2times the same number of Oword in use before generating the toolpath
[18:25:30] <IchGuckLive> if this is not the case it can run into a loop
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[18:53:31] <jepler> if you write a program that produces an unlimited number of movements and preview it in axis, axis will happily exhaust all system resources creating the preview.
[18:53:54] <skunkworks> sweet!
[18:54:44] <jepler> well, without more information this alone probably explains the problem report above
[18:54:52] <jepler> so consider it a part of the lesson :-P
[18:55:03] <skunkworks> heh
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[19:08:23] <jepler> what kind of setup would lead to a negative Igain being sensible?
[19:08:48] <cradek> sounded like they had all gains negative
[19:08:56] <cradek> I don't know why either
[19:09:15] <jepler> ah, where another person might have inverted the amplifier scale?
[19:09:25] <cradek> I suppose
[19:12:03] <jepler> any thoughts on whether to take peter's proposed fix (multiply igain into that test)?
[19:14:08] <micges> I had some pwm dc motors setup where inverting direction would be easiest by negative gains
[19:14:25] <cradek> I'm nervous, because like the earlier proposed fixes, I think nobody has actually tried it and verified that it fixes their problem
[19:14:42] <micges> just for mention
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[21:24:51] <psha> bb
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