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[00:55:31] <PCW> Look like we fixed the 8I20 parser bug so we well send you new 8I20 firmware Monday
[00:55:32] <PCW> (you wont notice any difference unless you send lots of crap to the 8I20 to try and confuse it)
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[02:51:42] <jepler> andypugh: yes, using rebase you can "drop" commits so that they're no longer in the history of that branch
[02:52:09] <andypugh> It seems you can do that, even if you don't want to.
[02:52:36] <jepler> andypugh: you can use 'git reflog' to find a previous HEAD that has the commit you want in its history, then git log that HEAD to find the ref to cherry-pick
[02:53:28] <andypugh> I was trying to persuade it to work, and didn't realise that thoughtlessly using --skip would have potentially disasterous consequences. Luckily I had accidentally put a backup in Gmail
[02:53:31] <jepler> so step 1: 'git reflog' and figure out what line corresponds to before you did the rebase you aren't happy with
[02:53:51] <jepler> for instance, your reflog might look like this:
[02:53:51] <jepler> d164a91 HEAD@{2}: rebase: tooledit: refactor for single tool table type
[02:53:51] <jepler> 67fd234 HEAD@{3}: rebase: tooledit: reload should respect toplevel resize
[02:53:52] <jepler> 02d9bfa HEAD@{4}: checkout: moving from master to 02d9bfa0d7ff1e3feb586bf0c83ab6
[02:53:54] <jepler> aba324a HEAD@{5}: am: tooledit: refactor for single tool table type
[02:54:21] <jepler> in that case, the commit before the rebase started is aba324a
[02:54:29] <jepler> so next I would gitk aba324a or git log aba324a to find a commit to cherry-pick
[02:54:46] <andypugh> git-gui "visualise history" seemed to indicate that the stuff was just gone, disappeared. Not even any sign of the last 3 commits.
[02:54:48] <jepler> alternately, I could 'git reset --hard aba324a' to move my HEAD back to before the rebase
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[03:02:25] <jepler> 'night
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[03:10:13] <andypugh> Just checked reflog, definitely three commits just evaporated and gone. Good information though
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[13:05:56] <jthornton> the emc liveCd includes a braille device... brltty
[13:06:16] <jthornton> just discovered that trying to play with my arduino uno
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[19:10:59] <skunkworks> cradek: in regards to rigid tapping - is there an issue if the spindle take too long to de-accellerate? it seems to get lost if I try 1000rpm and a pitch of .01
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[19:20:18] <jthornton> your a brave guy
[19:21:57] <skunkworks> heh - still in the air...
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[19:30:14] <skunkworks> ok - so if I do a command like g33.1z.25k.01 (starting at 1 inch - so tapping .75 inch) - when the as the spindle is decelerating it gets to .15 and the axis stops... (then it gets lost) and I don't seem to get an error. let me try it from cammand line
[19:30:33] <skunkworks> command
[19:34:52] <skunkworks> ok - no error that I can see - but it seems like that once the z axis gets to .15 (.1 past the stopping point of .25) the axis stops - but the spindle keeps de-accellerating and reverses. but the z axis still stays at .15.
[19:35:16] <skunkworks> then tapping seems to stop working correctly
[19:40:21] <skunkworks> (restart of emc - wonder if that is what ichudov on the list saw...)
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[20:41:27] <cradek> skunkworks: yes - it will only allow you so many turns before it reverses -- I figured it's better to snap a tap if the spindle "never" reverses, instead of just going forward forever
[20:41:45] <cradek> from memory I think it's 10 turns?
[20:47:04] <jthornton> that's good to know cradek
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[21:01:28] <skunkworks> ah - ok - that makes sense...
[21:02:53] <andypugh> Any scope for water-cooled braking resistors to slow the spindle faster and make a pot of tea?
[21:04:11] <skunkworks> that would make sense as 100 threads per inch - 10 turns would be .1
[21:04:42] <cradek> // allow 10 turns of the spindle to stop - we don't want to just go on forever
[21:04:45] <cradek> tc.target = line_xyz.tmag + 10. * tp->uu_per_rev;
[21:04:57] <skunkworks> our vfd is the limiting factor... the transmission has a large rotational mass..
[21:05:18] <cradek> 10 turns farther than you asked for seems like too far :-)
[21:06:24] <skunkworks> we are just going to have to tap at lower speeds.
[21:06:38] <cradek> or higher gear?
[21:07:03] <skunkworks> have to play with it.
[21:18:30] <andypugh> skunkworks: You need a heavy weight on a bit of string wrapped round the spindle to help it reverse.
[21:19:46] <andypugh> seb_kuzminsky: You there?
[21:32:56] <dgarr> two small patches for haltcl.in: http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/haltcl.mbox
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[22:13:22] <andypugh> I am trying to work what to do with the sserial driver.
[22:14:29] <andypugh> Currently it works OK, and could be submitted, although half a day of testing tomorrow would be wise.
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[22:17:15] <andypugh> However, the way that ports are enabled/disabled doesn't match the structure of other components. One consequence of this is that it is not all that easy to
[22:17:54] <andypugh> ... rearrange things to better match the function separation that Seb has in the rest of the code.
[22:21:28] <andypugh> The answer is probably a bit of a rewrite, so instead of a bit mask like "conf_sserial = 0x000080FF" to enable all the channels of port 0 and the last one of port 1, I could (probably) change it to be "num_sserial=8,1,0,0". This means that the active channel on port 1 in this example has to be channel0.
[22:26:01] <andypugh> If I do this, then I can call the hm2_pins_allocate_all() function and create a function in hm2_ioport to write the registers to enable the pins to allow the sserial driver to poll the devices and check what is there. (there would probably need to be a hm2_ioport_clear() function added too, to return the ports to default afterwards.
[22:34:28] <skunkworks> do I remember reading an issue with a previous trunk (head) that the tool prep caused the motion/spindle to stop when running a program?
[22:36:17] <andypugh> I think one fundamental problem here with trying to conform to the existing layout is that not only do you have 0 to 4 sserial ports, but each has 0 to 8 channels active.
[22:37:06] <andypugh> And the existing pin/port handler isn't great at coping with that.
[22:38:59] <andypugh> So, does anyone have any opinions on the best way to proceed?
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[23:26:43] <skunkworks> ok - the latest trunk pauses all motion pre-fetching the tool
[23:27:07] <andypugh> is that bad?
[23:27:11] <skunkworks> yes
[23:27:28] <andypugh> I am fuzzy on the whole trunk/head/master thing
[23:29:39] <skunkworks> well - I mean master
[23:29:47] <skunkworks> I guess.
[23:29:56] <andypugh> So mharberlers changes then?
[23:30:03] <robh__> kinda defeats a pre fetch then
[23:31:10] <skunkworks> well - the master from a month or two ago did the same thing.
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[23:35:09] <skunkKandT> http://pastebin.com/v105QXcB
[23:35:38] <skunkKandT> so - that program should start moving while it finds t6153
[23:36:40] <andypugh> It isn't finishing the motion and waiting at the M6?
[23:37:08] <skunkworks> tool prep and tool change are 2 different things
[23:38:24] <andypugh> I am assuming that T6153 means "get that tool in the changer" and then M6 means "put that tool in"?
[23:38:27] <skunkworks> it sits and does nothing until after it finds the t6153 as will all the tool preps
[23:39:23] <skunkworks> *with all the tool preps
[23:39:35] <skunkworks> unless - of course I am doing something wrong ;)
[23:40:08] <andypugh> don't ask me, toolchange is a mystery I have yet to investigate.
[23:40:31] <robh__> you meant, it outputs tool-prep and waits for tool-preped before continueing the gcode
[23:40:55] <skunkworks> yes
[23:41:02] <andypugh> I have just found that the difference between for ( ;*token != ' ';token++) and for ( ;*token |= ' ';token++) is a proper complete lock-up crash, and not.
[23:42:22] <skunkworks> heh
[23:47:43] <skunkworks> andypugh: I am assuming that T6153 means "get that tool in the changer" and then M6 means "put that tool in"?
[23:47:45] <skunkworks> yes
[23:48:28] <skunkworks> although - for our machine it is more like 'get t6153 in position for a tool change'
[23:48:45] <andypugh> How many tools do you have?
[23:48:52] <skunkworks> few hundred
[23:49:03] <skunkworks> the chain holds 60
[23:49:13] <andypugh> But not 6500
[23:49:50] <skunkworks> no - but the reason was that you could have hundreds of jobs setup and the tools stored away for each job
[23:50:18] <andypugh> How many bits on the barcodes then?
[23:50:39] <skunkworks> 15 :)
[23:51:07] <andypugh> 32768 tools max then? Oh dear!
[23:51:29] <skunkworks> yep ;)
[23:53:56] <skunkworks> I am reading the tools binary- the original machine read them octal - so what is that then?
[23:54:17] <skunkworks> oh - that is the same
[23:54:41] <skunkworks> duh