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[03:38:30] <EDocToor> What does emc mean?
[03:40:13] <EDocToor> bbl
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[06:01:28] <SWPLinux> EDocToor: Emhanced Machine Controller
[06:01:31] <SWPLinux> err
[06:01:35] <SWPLinux> Enhanced Machine Controller
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[09:15:24] <psha> cradek: radio actions are great :)
[09:20:31] <psha> http://psha.org.ru/tmp/radio.ui
[09:20:57] <psha> http://psha.org.ru/cgit/psha/emc2.git/commit/?h=gladevcp-radio&id=7988d4cb6a91335480b5331d01f2f545cf2c664a
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[12:36:11] <psha> jthornton: have you looked at MDI history patch?
[12:36:30] <jthornton> psha: good morning
[12:36:36] <psha> good day :)
[12:36:56] <jthornton> yes I tried last night but don't think I did everything correctly
[12:37:38] <psha> you may merge that branch - git pull git://psha.org.ru/psha/emc2.git gladevcp-mdihistory
[12:38:02] <jthornton> Ok, I think I see what I did wrong
[12:38:09] <psha> there is one extra commit - but it's harmless for axis
[12:38:37] <jthornton> I think I applied the patch but is it better to just pull the branch?
[12:38:53] <psha> no difference - second patch is for gladevcp
[12:40:34] <jthornton> I must not have gotten the patch to work, I'll pull your branch
[12:42:36] <psha> hm, what's went wrong?
[12:43:08] <jthornton> it was still reading the original mdi file
[12:43:49] <jthornton> hmm that did a merge
[12:43:50] <psha> with MDI_HISTORY_FILE clause in [DISPLAY]?
[12:43:58] <psha> and after 'make'?
[12:44:09] <jthornton> yes
[12:44:20] <jthornton> making now after git pull
[12:49:05] <jthornton> seems to work fine for me
[12:49:10] <jthornton> psha: thanks
[12:49:34] <psha> ok, it'll land in master shortly
[12:49:52] <psha> after i'll get some critical mass of patches to merge :)
[12:50:03] <jthornton> ok I'll update the docs
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[15:25:44] <cradek> psha: I used touchy macros (probing) again last night - sure is nice to have that working - thanks again
[15:26:22] <psha> heh, np :) glad that something i've done is useful :)
[15:26:48] <cradek> yes very
[15:37:06] <psha> bbl
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[17:45:48] <alex_joni> lol @ andy
[17:45:50] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,32/id,6511/lang,en/#6511
[17:54:23] <cradek> funny
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[18:42:49] <cradek> jepler: the abort fix might just be this one thing?
http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb/emc2-dev.git/commitdiff/35e47a864f9839ffc6834b1991d2206a36d5dd30
[18:42:58] <cradek> I thought he was saying it was more, though.
[18:46:59] <jepler> that's cumulative to 5ebf364ad2bc051d04c779bb635ebc89ab4ed09b which is based on his earlier patch
[18:48:50] <cradek> oh ok
[18:48:55] <cradek> so we have part already
[18:49:31] <psha> jepler: do you expect scope2 going into 2.5?
[18:49:44] <jepler> psha: no, I haven't touched it since the form you see on my personal git
[18:50:50] <psha> pity... that's great thing even if you are not fully satisfied with drawing performance
[18:51:35] <CIA-53> EMC: 03jepler 07master * r782eef6d11bc 10/src/emc/task/iotaskintf.cc: Merge remote branch 'mhaberler/tool-abort-fix'
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[18:51:40] <jepler> the gui is barely started..
[18:51:45] <CIA-53> EMC: 03jepler 07master * r35e47a864f98 10/src/emc/task/iotaskintf.cc: iotaskintf.cc: unconditionally force-queue a TOOL_ABORT
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[18:54:19] <psha> sad... do you think backend without gui is useless?
[18:57:50] <jepler> can you tell me why you think otherwise?
[18:58:40] <psha> i see at least one use case - monitoring
[18:59:07] <psha> dump values to RRD file and build standard min/max/avg graphs
[18:59:15] <jepler> if you don't mind setting it up by hand-editing text files, use halsampler
[18:59:58] <psha> second - it may be easily hooked into gladevcp graph (which is pretty useless)
[19:00:47] <psha> but you know - i'm working with sim... no real use cases :(
[19:00:59] <psha> just trying to imagine what _may be_ useful
[19:02:18] <psha> heh, i even don't mind to use develpment branch ;)
[19:02:28] <jepler> the scope2rt component is not able to support more than one client so you can't use it for a gladevcp graph
[19:02:49] <jepler> going in that direction would indicate that scope2rt should be changed in some way
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[19:03:43] <jepler> but scope2rt's not good for setting up a graph that's going to be visible all the time. you want to set that up with hal nets, but scope2rt does its own typeless thing since you don't know at loadrt time the number and types of samples to be captured
[19:03:45] <psha> hm, i don't see problem - make one scope and connect different channels
[19:03:49] <jepler> you want something more like halsampler
[19:04:12] <jepler> there's no place for two scope UIs to say which channel numbers each one uses
[19:04:29] <psha> yea, two UI's but not two parts of same UI
[19:04:30] <jepler> there's no way for two users of scope2rt to sample different threads
[19:05:06] <psha> also why not to allow users to load several instances of scope2rt?
[19:06:11] <jepler> it seems like needless complication
[19:06:16] <psha> but surely without 'flagman' UI for scope2rt it's looks a bit orphaned...
[19:06:30] <jepler> I don't know what you mean by that.
[19:06:37] <jepler> I don't know what a "'flagman' UI" is
[19:06:45] <psha> 21:51 < jepler> the gui is barely started..
[19:06:59] <psha> that you've started as a first and main UI user of scope2rt
[19:09:02] <jepler> if your goal is to have a gladevcp graph widget that accurately captures data every time a realtime function runs, what you want is halsampler. it has ring buffers, it has multiple instances, it just lacks a python userspace reader
[19:10:55] <psha> no, really was just wandering about your poing about scope2 state and use cases
[19:11:24] <psha> i feel i've know enought work with gaxis to be in shape before 2.5 branching
[19:11:36] <psha> s/know/now/g
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[19:16:50] <psha> cradek: have you seen example of RadioActions i've posted earlier today?
[19:17:06] <cradek> looking
[19:18:50] <cradek> neat
[19:19:00] <cradek> set_active_safe keeps it from making the unwanted events?
[19:19:06] <psha> yes
[19:19:52] <psha> when it got state changed signal from emc it have to adjust widget state but issuing another command is pointless
[19:21:50] <psha> i've borrowed 'ensure_state' function from axis but i don't think it's good thing to do
[19:22:08] <psha> you in touchy just set desired mode before doing command
[19:22:18] <psha> and wait for completion surely
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[19:27:37] <CIA-53> EMC: 03cradek 07master * r2f101765dbb2 10/src/emc/usr_intf/touchy/touchy.py: touchy: set initial continuous jog speed correctly
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[19:33:20] <cradek> do you guys get this warning too?
http://pastebin.com/xgHzsnxd
[19:34:11] <CIA-53> EMC: 03cradek 07master * r5be491809594 10/src/emc/usr_intf/touchy/touchy.py: touchy: only save maxvel setting at exit, not every wheel click
[19:35:14] <psha> drawable is a first param?
[19:35:42] <cradek> good question
[19:36:06] <cradek> I think this warning is new in lucid
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[19:36:30] <psha> it's used to hide cursor?
[19:36:44] <cradek> yes
[19:37:18] <psha> try to omit 'depth' parameter
[19:37:30] <psha> last '1'
[19:37:37] <psha> drawable :
[19:37:38] <psha> a gtk.gdk.Drawable used to determine default values for the new pixmap or None if depth is specified.
[19:37:53] <psha> oh, not correct
[19:38:23] <jepler> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=631332
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[19:39:23] <psha> :) it looks like you first start searching on corresponing bugtrackers; )
[19:39:33] <cradek> but it still works...?
[19:39:59] <cradek> or at least appears to. I can just ignore it for a few years then.
[19:40:37] <psha> for me it works - i've just today clicked on 'hide cursor' button and then tried to hit 'show cursor' :)
[19:40:54] <cradek> yes I use it 'hidden' on my touch screen
[19:41:49] <psha> surely you do on touch screen. but with plain mouse it's tricky to use touchy without cursor :)
[19:41:55] <cradek> yep
[19:49:10] <jepler> unfortunately chris and I were unable to discover any way to reliably detect that the input device is a touchscreen
[19:49:21] <jepler> so you'll just have to be careful or lucky and find that button again!
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[20:35:37] <alex_joni> jepler: can't you use tab to get to it?
[20:37:30] <psha> focus is disabled on all buttons :)
[20:38:55] <jepler> right, because you don't want a focus indicator on any widget
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[21:05:40] <cradek> hi seb!
[21:05:47] <seb_kuzminsky> hi there :-)
[21:06:07] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks for being the 2.5 release mgr, i really appreciate it, & sorry I can't help more
[21:06:13] <cradek> welcome
[21:06:30] <psha> hi seb
[21:06:33] <cradek> it would be cool if you could help with buildbot stuff, but if you don't have time I will still be able to handle it.
[21:06:36] <psha> any chance buildbuit will be up again? :)
[21:06:44] <cradek> I bet you are busy :-)
[21:07:10] <psha> i may bring up rtai builds without testing or sim builds with tests
[21:07:14] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm spending a lot of time trying to get a new job (of the paying kind)
[21:07:30] <cradek> yeah, that's a nice kind to have
[21:07:51] <seb_kuzminsky> Getting the buildbot back up should be pretty doable
[21:08:09] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll try to get it done in the next week or so
[21:08:25] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm just worried about what it will do to the network connection at my house!
[21:08:32] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: made on Jr last night:
http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/little-pcbs.jpg
[21:09:37] <seb_kuzminsky> what are they? and why are they on the tax booklet? :-)
[21:10:03] <cradek> part of a clock I'm going to build
[21:10:35] <seb_kuzminsky> that crazy atomic clock you told me about?
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[21:10:53] <cradek> yes sort of - I made that one for someone else - this one is going to be for me
[21:12:13] <seb_kuzminsky> that's really cool
[21:12:22] <seb_kuzminsky> isolation routing is cool, and atomic clocks are cool
[21:12:29] <cradek> agreed
[21:14:23] <cradek> they are wrong - I have to do them over - but still, they are pretty.
[21:14:51] <cradek> the clock will have 7 of these boards - they run two display tubes each and just chain together
[21:17:25] <psha> i've recently met very nice article about connecting small pieces
http://www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2010/10/07/new-electronic-brick-idea-survived-some-intense-brainstorming/
[21:17:29] <seb_kuzminsky> did you use eagle & one of those gerber-to-gcode plugins?
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[21:18:10] <cradek> yes eagle - I use a direct gcode export that jeff and I have written over the years
[21:18:18] <cradek> gerber is not involved this way
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[21:19:56] <cradek> the IC is TQFP44 = .8mm pitch
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[21:23:15] <psha> bb
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[22:04:45] <andypugh> seb_kuzminsky: What do you think of the idea of moving the code-to-mod-ioport-registers to the ioport.c file, then calling it? ie, is that better?
[22:05:13] <andypugh> Assuming I ever manage to untangle my git, that is
[22:08:47] <andypugh> (A git rebase has gone wrong, and now I can't checkout master or HEAD
[22:09:35] <andypugh> So maybe worrying about details of the code is less important than worrying about whether the code still exists
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[22:33:55] <andypugh> If I git rebase, then --skip some troublesome commits, is it really the case that those commits are lost from the branch history? (That would be bad)
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