I don't think I understand the problem gtom_ described at all
canon and interpreter list seem to put the M1xx at the right spot, not before or after nearby moves
he is describing something very complicated
'preview interpreter' I think he means sai
yay - got the 7i48 mounted and the jogwheel hooked to it. jr is alive again.
and there was much rejoicing!
and Y is getting worse... this will be nice if it fixes it.
it ferrored a few times just trying to home it
thunk thunk thunk thunk thunk thunk
when moving one way, smooth the other way
sometimes worse than others, sometimes it's perfect
do you thing that was your ballscrew/coupling issue?
thinking it was a bent shaft?
no, that's on X :-P
oh - sorry
pretty sure this is the tach
guess I only pay attention to one problem at a time - the worst one
[01:06:22] <cradek> http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/IMAG0105.jpg
but this is while it was jogging under position loop control, so it's not a very good test
it's exactly once per screw turn
chicken or the egg ;)
I've cleaned the tach a few times - everything looks fine - whenever I mess with it the problem goes away long enough for me to put all the covers back on, then comes back
anyway good excuse to try simulated tach
very good excuse
funny - on the scope picture I think you can see each brush contact
see the little humps?
at the spikes, one is too high then the next one is missing
I never noticed that before but I'm pretty sure I see humps
internet connection sucks tonight
huh - internet is supposed to either be all capitals or the first word capitalized. Did I know that?>
Just this once .. here's the log: http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emcdevel/2010-08-10.txt
Jymmm is now known as Jymmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jymmmmmmmmmmmmmm is now known as Jymmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jymmmmmmmmmmmmm is now known as Jymmmmmmmmmmmm
Jymmmmmmmmmmmm, a little stutter tonight?
Jymmmmmmmmmmmm is now known as Jymmmmmmmmmmm
Jymmmmmmmmmmm is now known as Jymmm
LawrenceG: just a little
LawrenceG: My first laser engraving http://i38.tinypic.com/1zvyafo.jpg
thank you =)
have you tried wood yet?
LawrenceG: No, still learning the machine
what's the material?
Jymmm: first engraving and you got the spelling all wrong
it's Jymmm not Jim
jepler: it came from here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,32/id,3665/lang,en/#3665
Is there a TOOL_HOLDER_CLEAR in 2.4 EMCIO section of the ini?
* jthornton saw Andy mention it but don't see it in the manual...
alex_joni: thanks for the link
I think the approach of trying to fix RFL / "manual while paused" by using the interpreter inside the GUI is probably the wrong approach
to be more specific: It is bad if RFL/"manual while paused" has to be implemented once in each GUI, and can't be implemented in GUIs that don't preview, like Touch, tkemc, and so on
also it's quite possible the two interpreters will get slighlty out of sync (when they do M66 or the like) so I don't see as a functional solution
are you talking about the webbbs post?
[13:10:35] <cradek> http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,32/id,3665/lang,english/#3665
it seems like he's reimplemented a lot of what task does for restart
he added those extra motions for reentry (but I don't think that solves any of the more fundamental problems, like restarting in the middle of an arc or the middle of a blend)
I wanted ultrastupid rfl on my domino project. I had a program that cut a whole big row of dominoes. one of them in the middle came loose and got gouged. I mounted a new (little) piece of stock in the vise and wanted to cut a certain domino *right here* but emc does everything to preserve offsets, so it would only cut it "over there".
(but other times I definitely do want the current behavior)
I very frequently restart at tool changes
alex_joni: my bad
anyone look at lines 14 and 15 in skeletion.ngc lately, I think the G04 is a typo! but I'm at work and can't fix it from here
nope it is a pause first on the line kinda confusing
that program is full of silly
the OneCNC tech guy was asking for a sample program to write a post...
don't send him that, jeez
send the man a free copy of our live cd so that he can test his software against it without having to pay anything
I sent him a link to the html G-Code Manual
also a free copy of the gcode quick ref
ries_ is now known as ries
JT-Work, tell him take a standard fanuc post and all he has to do is change about 5 things and it works just fine, all i did for camworks , mainly drilling and rigid tapping to change
Just this once .. here's the log: http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emcdevel/2010-08-10.txt
seb_kuzminsky: 7i48 works, yay
i saw jeff's commit to add support for it, that's cool that it works now :-)
seb_kuzminsky: how often does buildmaster make a new master-rt deb? it seems to take serveral days?
really? it should be on every commit to master
hmm oops its wedged
micges committed something to 2.4 on friday morning, and the lenny realtime rip "build and test" builder got hung in the test step
on another note: I bookmarked these http://dynamixcomputers.com/lilliput_619gl.html
because *someone* told me they were good. I don't remember who, but maybe it's a better bet than the ebay models I know are bad.
the vm kernel panicked
only part of the traceback is visible, and it's not healthy enough to let me scroll back... __ipipe_handle_exception is in the traceback
anyone have any debugging suggestions before I power cycle it?
can you ssh /dmesg?
not knee kneader
i can not ssh to it, best i have is a vnc to its locked-up console
Recursive die() failure, output suppressed
Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
ok, bye bye little computer
what distro is it?
2.6.22 with rtai
no shortage of google hits with "recursive die failure" "fatal exception in interrupt"
cradek: thanks for telling me to poke the buildbot
i didnt know it was wedged...
I'm using those lucid-rt packages on jr - it's very nice
cool! i'm using them on my bp too :-)
i'm really pleased with emc2 2.4.3 on lucid
the big difference I see with lucid is that it boots fast. on jr where I actually shut it off, that's nice.
it also powers off when you tell it to
nah, it doesn't turn off the phase convertor
I've been meaning to file a bug report...
I cannot believe how fast it boots. I think the bios splash screen takes as long as lucid takes to boot.
my mill's computer finally died :-(
remember the one that would only power on every other time you hit the power button? now it almost never powers on
skunkworks: what mobo/cpu is that?
it's some old dell i pulled out of a dumpster :-)
i found another dumpster score to switch to tho so i'm not worried :-)
seb_kuzminsky: excuse to get a shiny new one?
yay for dumpster computers
Jymmm: new computer? what's that? I'm not familiar with the concept.
now where's the dumpster full of little touchscreens?
ooh good question
i should stop being such a cheap bastard and just plunk down
cradek: You pay for it, and it comes with a fancy dead tree box, oh and it's suppose to work too!
Jymmm: skunkworks's dad when seeing my laptop at cnc workshop said "Do you collect other kinds of antiques too?"
i think the $100 magic touch on ebay's the one for me
(it's not even old, it's > 1 GHz)
yes - tiger direct
slap it on my little 13" dumpster-lcd and never look back
skunkworks: Bah! What are you some Canuck?!
newegg didn't have anything at the time in my price range ;)
Mobo, still looking for the cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131613&Tpk=M2N68-AM%20PLUS
and that is cheaper - cool
Save $4 and USA return address
No damn customs to deal with
seb_kuzminsky: isn't the magic touch way too big for the box?
oh - don't forget you would need an video card. I had some random issues with latency with the internal one. (so not the greatest deal)
The mobo has FREE shipping, so maybe you can get the cou shipped free too
or $6 for shipping the cpu
but it is fast. :)
and had the 2 pci slots I needed.
skunkworks: you're the one looking at it for the last month, you tell us =)
? - I never look at anything for more than a few minutes
skunkworks: Not our probl... OH LOOK A SHINY THING!
* Jymmm *SMACKS* the hell out of skunkworks... PAY ATTENTION!
skunkworks: Yes, there WILL be a quiz!
skunkworks: Read the reviews on newegg at least, seems a bit mixed at only 54%
Cons: Bridge gets hot, I put a fan close to it. Had to deal with the front panel connector.
cradek: so - if I bought the 6 axis interface - I could run one of the mesa boards with the 7i33 and the other with the 7I48? (I don't see an issue) I like the idea of having extra stuff to play with. and I have not bought the extra servo interface yet.
you have two 5i20 like I do?
Jymmm: 2 mesa cards + video - that whole area gets hot.
so it should work ;)
if so, yes, 7i33 on one 5i20, 7i48 on other 5i20
you have to use different firmwares
shouldn't be a problem - right - just call it from the config?
skunkworks: I'm just saying that be aware of thermal issues and make sure you have enough room for extra fans and ventilation.
I meant to say that I think you can't combine 7i33 + 7i48 on the same 5i20
unless you talk nicely to pcw ;) ?
I definitely like to use the standard firmwares... there was a little tweak that pcw/jepler made and jepler is going to roll a new set of firmwares one of these days - then I'll be back to needing nothing special
besides needing a different firmware, the hostmot2 driver would need further changes to support a 7i48 and a 7i33
if that's anticipated, we might want to change it sooner rather than later
(because both the muxed encoder and the non-muxed encoder use the same option to specify the number to use and the assumption is that there's only one or the other in the system)
it currently supports 2x7i48 and 2x7i33, but not one of each
Don't forget the 7i39, which should now work. (It works for me at least)
so many options
cradek: i think the ktmt-1214 will just barely fit, it's 9.25" tall and the control box is 10" tall
the opening in the front of the control box is 8.5" tall so i may have to cut it open a little bit
I wonder if the 8i20 could be persuaded to drive an induction motor?
seb_kuzminsky: but you need somewhere to put several switches, lights, and a jogwheel
seb_kuzminsky: I guess the could be on a separate, smaller, box
true, i think there's plenty of room to the left & right of the touch screen
it's 19" wide with a 17.5" opening, and the ktmt-1214 is just 12" wide
oh ok, that sounds fine then
so the final face plate will be ~19x~10, which is ~= the work envelope of the mill :-) it's a match made near heaven :-)
Use the touchscreen in Portrait mode? (I assume that the author considered that option?)
it fits in landscape but not in portrait
I need to dismantle the screen and sanity check my plan before plunking down the money for the touch screen
worried about depth?
I bought a complete touchscreen monitor, brand-new from that eBay fro £130.
it's pretty deep, but yes that's one interference i want to check out
the box is deep, that is
andypugh: that sounds like a good price - did it work well?
I like that box but I also think visibility would be much better without it there
The power-supply died, I am waiting for a replacement. However, as the power supply in my other CNC machine and my cable TV box all died at the same time, I am not reading too much into that.
For the testing I have done so far, it seems to work well.
[20:43:28] <cradek> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlzPTftDKmY
interesting - he has some kind of dnc software
his panel looks new - that mill has not seen much use
wishing you didn't convert? ;)
skunkworks: every day...
conversion to single phase and no air is also really nice
Seems a trifle long-winded
Does anyone know of any projects aside from EMC using HAL?
[23:30:05] <andypugh> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=RTAI+HAL+-EMC2
Doesn't show much, mind