EMC: 03jthornton 07v2.4_branch * rcb0d7c80f22c 10/docs/src/common/User_Concepts.lyx: fix thinking in inches error
another bunch of yahoo users just got unsubscribed from the emc list
if you use yahoo, I recommend you complain and/or stop using them
what is up with yahoo?
probably what happens is this: some yahoo users subscribe to mailing lists. they decide they don't want the emails anymore. they're not very bright so they don't unsubscribe - instead they just do whatever you do in yahoo mail to mark them as spam and make them go away. now yahoo is not very bright so decides sourceforge is a spammer. they start bouncing all mail from sourceforge. sourceforge says yahoo is busted and unsubscribes everyone.
it's hard to know who to blame, but the answer for users is obvious - get a real email account if you don't want people screwing up your mail
if you use yahoo mail you trust other yahoo mail users to decide what spam is for you
conversely, if you use sourceforge, you trust everyone from your ISP to decide what is spam for you ...
I don't follow that one
sf is right to stop sending mails to addresses that bounce them
well, if SF is disabling an entire domain based on some percentage of mails being bounced (or whatever the actual mechanism), then everyone is dependent on all their "ISP-mates" to behave well
no, they're unsubscribing individual addresses that are bouncing
so a bunch of idiots from sover.net could cause me to be block-deleted from the list
no I don't think so
I only notice that they're all yahoo addresses that are individually being unsubscribed for excessive bounces
ah, ok. I inferred that a bunch of users got dropped because of what *other* yahoo users did
read my long-winded description again
(if it didn't get cut off)
"if you use yahoo mail you trust other yahoo mail users to decide what spam is for you"
yes yahoo decided to bounce all mails from sourceforge
I assume because of what a few yahoo users clicked on
the not-very-bright ones who didn't figure how to unsubscribe
I guess if yahoo users don't realize they are setting yahoo policy by clicking on stuff, it's hard to blame them
they just want the messages to go away
the mistaken assumption is made by yahoo (all users want (and don't want) similar emails)
based on data from another mistaken assumption, which is that their users know what they're doing
well each user knows which emails he wants and doesn't want
he clicks whatever thing he needs to accomplish this
free email accounts suck and I'm sorry people are going that way
ISPs used to have to provide reasonable email service - now they just don't bother
before that, ISPs used to have to provide reasonable usenet service
but now I'm just whining
yeah. I'm amazed that my ISP actually has a mailbox limit, and it's only 10M
heh, fuck the users, they'll switch to gmail and we won't have to bother anymore.
they don't know any better anyway
probably, now that they've been bought out by a large national ISP
besides, who uses email - just send everything through facebook
I have a 4 digit account number there
cradek: I'm sure you were just joking, but I read an article lately that email will die out in favour of facebook and other similar crap
I wasn't joking - that's obviously the trend
the more personal communication those sites can harvest, the better their models of each person get
facebook is getting all the consumer/relationship/communication data of an entire generation, and they own it to do with as they see fit
also if you're in the US you might start wondering when they'll be "too big to fail"
one interesting concept to replace email is wave from google, but I don't think email will die so soon (just like faxes are still used)
mozmck, mozmck_work1: around?
at home for lunch right now
alex_joni: you around still?
nothing urgent though
just a quick not on the RTAI mailing list that 2.6.31 should probably forgotten for RTAI apps
188.8.131.52 should be ok again (stability wise)
ah! that may be why numbers of folks are having trouble with it not booting - some even compiling their own vanilla kernel.
with rtai patches...
mozmck: paolo's guess was that maybe some irq stuff was forgotten from the patches
ah. did you email him about that?
no, there was a user asking for help
I have looked at the mailing list for a couple days...
have not that is...
* alex_joni reads irc typo just fine
The one guy on the forum said he tried 2.36.x vanilla and had the same problem. I have one computer that's doing similarly. black screen and no booting with any rtai patches.
bbl - lunch
2.36.x doesn't make sense.. 2.6.31.x does