cradek: can you shortly describe on what are you working at locking-rotary branch?
it is done except for homing
it is for machines that need to unlock or lift the rotary axis before moving it, then lock it again afterward
a rotary axis of this kind is used for indexing only, not coordinated motion, so it can only be moved alone
there is a hal loopback for the axis, axis.N.unlock -> axis.N.is-unlocked
I think I have already machine for tests :)
the only reason I haven't merged is because homing should know to unlock, then home the joint, then lock
I did the work already of passing the option into homing
all that it needs is two more states in the homing state machine
neat - you also have some machines that need this?
I have 5 axis machine with rotary moved by hand and locked by hand
if I remember right, skunkworks's machine will also need this for the B axis
soemthing like this machine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7hJr64VF30
I would be happy if you wanted to fix up the homing state machine and then we could merge this
ok I will look later - no flash here
* skunkworks raises his hand
that is awesome!
for my b axis to rotate - it actually lifts the table.
skunkworks: got any pics of your machine?
skunkworks: when did you take this photo? ;)
heh - that is the photo from the manual ;)
[16:26:20] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG
cool: simmilar to my
do you have pictures?
you need to work on that. ;)
skunkworks: are you going to get rid of the entire old control box?
we have two of the electrical panals that we are going to use for electronics.
2 of these.
[16:36:15] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG
looks like you could put a handy knee mill or something in place of the old control box
am I seeing it wrong - the old control looks as big as the machine
oh - right.
yes - it was huge.
it will probably be where tools and maybe a desk ;)
I meant are you able to get rid of the whole control box and use those little ones instead?
how long until an axis moves?
we have all the pullys now - soon I hope.
getting wiring figured out - lots of wires ;)
have you figured out whether you can get a usable signal out of the accupins?
I bet Jon E's board isn't strong enough to drive them - but maybe he could make you something.
we are planning on sending a set of accupins and head to him - he thought he could maybe boost the power if needed
it would be cool to get that working again.
hm, I've got a crazyass resolver I've been meaning to send him too
yeah it would be really slick to have another dual feedback machine - our first try sure seemed to work great
maybe others are doing it, but I don't know about it if so
yes - it will be neat.
I thing the way the inputs/outputs are adding up - we are probably going to use 2 mesa cards. (2 servo interface cards also)
yeah I even used two on jr - I/O gets used up fast on a complex machine
I'm happy I used the opto22 stuff - it's huge, but you can pick whatever I/Os you want, and you get LEDs on them
did you know john k has a zillion modules right now? if you're planning on using them, you could stock up.
[16:52:42] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_BasGaFqHk
I bought a few from him. (30 some outputs and 11 inputs) we have a ton of inputs
yep that looks like the boards I have
oh that's new - you just got it going - neat
the featured videos I get are "Deadly Quake", "Video of Chile", and "Sniff My Butt"
it has been flashing like that for a few days.. seems to be stable.. ;)
heh, looking at the old mazak video, I sure am glad I have a mechanical spindle orient
yes - we do also
did you see the video recently - he oriented the spindle the same way - but must have had less backlash. pretty quick
no - do you remember whose it was?
hold on - let me look - he said he hacked the mazak orent to get it to work ;)
skunkworks, u mean my video?
[17:07:57] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlW1s2BNixo
yes - there we go
[17:08:10] <robh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlW1s2BNixo
aah u found it
* skunkworks is the search master.. ;)
i think if u could run the drive in closed loop vector for postion mode u could control it alot tighter
I think that is quick enough
yep, looks great
just running drive in frequency mode, as vector wount let me get to 8k
i have encoder feedback for vfd which helps keeping speed i found under load
that is sure a simple tool changer motion
too simple... hmmmm ;)
neat video - I love it - looks like a very successful retrofit of a complex machine.
next machine has random so much quicker tool change
yours isn't bad if the tools are in order... but with no prep it would be slow if they aren't.
we are very pleased with the refit, our thanks goes out to you guys for putting your time into a grate bit of software
random is nice.
I can spot my rigid tap cycle anywhere, with that little downward motion back to the original height
hehe makes a nice dog leg in the move
but it picked up the marker pulse so quick which makes a big diff
bbl, off to build a staircase
EMC: 03jepler 07v2.4_branch * rff4f97372f11 10/src/po/fr.po: French translation update
building staircases rates right up there with trim.. (not something I go out of my way to do)
[21:02:40] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/images/fbfiles/images/Screenshot1.jpg
that looks perfectly useful, and I don't see why it's desirable to have it inside AXIS
yay for windowing systems where you can have more than one application
I can imagine he has a space issue (judging by the screenshot)
but resizing axis would be just as good
alex_joni: how is it cross on view done?
this guy hacked it into gqcam
alex_joni: since about 1985 windowing systems can overlap windows! :-)
cradek: yes, but focus on the window underneath is not very common
unless you can set an always on top for the other window
umm X has always always had that
cradek: sorry, wrong wording..
not very common for people using non-X
put the camera view on top, move the mouse into the other window
sucks to be them, then - too bad only the privileged can afford to run X
sorry, I'm being that way again
heh, just let it all out ;)
I think the camera thing is cool - I'm glad he found a way to do it
I think it's unnecessary to add it to AXIS, and unnecessary things should be avoided.
that's all :-)
I agree completely with that
but if he feels like hacking AXIS to integrate that, there's no-one stopping him either
no of course not
yay, bought a new handsfree for my cell
you kids first wanted your phones without cords, and now you're too lazy to even bother to hold the phone up.
[21:16:22] <alex_joni> http://www.chipchick.com/2009/12/sony-ericsson-mw600-review.html
I like to talk on it in the office, with my cell plugged into mains
less cell radiation too, fwiw
why not plug a headset directly into the phone?
cables get into my way
this seems to be wireless for no reason
but this has the same number of cables (one to each ear)
oh, loads of reasons
I had a previous model
also wireless, but with a bit longer cables
oh you can leave the phone plugged in, on the desk, and not be tied to it
or deep in your pocket in the car
you also see who's calling on the display
I keep the phone in my backpack while riding a bike, and love using it for listening to music
anyways, tried the cable headphones these last 2 days (since my other one stopped working)
they're such a hassle :)
* alex_joni stops spamming the channel :/
wait - you can mouse over a window in x and it will be the active window even though it is behind?
skunkworks: sure you can, although in ubuntu that's not enabled by default
skunkworks: you're making me cry
that was the original X way.. but people coming from windows prefer click to focus
so that's the default these days
cradek: I think it's just like with clothes or shoes
is it easy to change?
system / preferences / windows / [ ] Select windows when the mouse moves over them
it'll get back in fashion after 30years or so
that seems like a neat idea... ;)
skunkworks: yeah it's nice. you don't have to bring a window to the top unless you want it at the top.
there have been times when I wanted to jog emc while keeping halscope up.. duh
welcome to the future
dang I never made the connection
is THIS why people think everything needs to be in one application window? they're used to Windows-like keyboard focus?
it's so irritating to me (and I change it so fast) that I forget other people use it that way
cradek: you'd be surprised :)
I've seen people who only use maximized apps
they can't imagine resizing a window.. just switching from one to another
I bet mac makes you raise the window to the top, too
I bet it's what makes the titlebar thingy switch to be your app
I've used nothing but X for > 15 years...
it is all clear now isn't it ;)
I'm still sad though