hi -- i noticed today that short (print, messages) were not see immediately but never saw this on simulator. a patch for consideration:
[00:48:57] <dgarr> http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/0001-make-print-messages-available-immediately.patch
looks pretty obvious
though I'm a bit surprised stdout isn't defaulting to line mode
you are running emc on the terminal, or in some other way?
i start it from a terminal
redirected with | or > ?
i use aliases like "emc nameofinifile" but there may be a pipe on that one, moment to turn it on and check
yes i have a pipe like: alias mill="rip;emc -v nameofinifile 2>&1 | tee -ia logfilename"
ok, that makes sense
so that probably caused the behavior i saw
but adding the flush made it work with that
are there downsides to including the fflush(stdout)?
for (print, messages)?
EMC: 03jepler 07master * r664fecd25c79 10/src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_convert.cc: make (print, messages) available immediately
thanks -- i'd forgotten about the pipe (but the log files have been useful on occasion)
I wondered about wireless probe delays, i guess if its constant it can be factored out (knowing velocity)
yeah but it'll end up being gross
[15:08:29] <skunkworks> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mach1mach2cnc/message/114275
[15:10:30] <skunkworks> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mach1mach2cnc/message/114286
I don't care what other people say - I like emc ;)
dad just got 6 amc drives - they are 30a peak 80v that will work good for playing with the puma. I
I might pick up some cheaper ones also.
30A probably will work for all 6 axes
the brushless ones go pretty cheap - and they can be used brushed also
heh, "it only gets done if it
suits one of them, or you do it yourself."
wonder how that works when applied to mach
"it only gets done if ??, or you forget about it"
surely "it only gets done if it suits them, otherwise you're totally screwed"
cradek: you're correct there, I've run into that.
"but at least you can go to your grave feeling entitled to a fix since you're out $x00"
ok I'll stop now
good morning everyone :-)
did you find the latency/rise time number for your probe?
no, I slept instead
that's often a good idea
what do you think about this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mach1mach2cnc/message/114255
he's not sure SCurve is really that valuable...
on my mill I turned down the accel because I could really feel it in the floor... it is still very fast
it's true that making the path smoother also makes it slower
I think most people who spend a lot of time worrying about this would not see a significant difference on their machine
I don't see how it wouldn't
bbl, making potato panckaes
(smoother path + slower)
it strikes me that you could "easily" write a one-axis jerk-limited planner (hal component, not emc) to see if it makes you feel better
oh - that sounds good - although we went to the local greasy spoon this morning - yum
we had (regular) pancakes
with real maple syrup, yum
mmmm - I should not be hungry...
should I build dapper packages?
I have a VM handy
* alex_joni counts bits dribbling in.. really slowly
ntpdate: step time server 188.8.131.52 offset 6370401.240536 sec
(talk about living in the past :D)
alex_joni: no, I've got it under control
jepler: oh, ok.. it's pretty easy for me if you want
alex_joni: I just finished uploading them, in fact -- now it needs cradek to update and sign the repository (I msg'd him)
bah, I hate reading pissing contests
I hate it more than you.
"when people say EMC can do rigid tapping, now we'll be able to say we have S curves (but we don't - but art says he has code that would do it if he had time to integrate it!!) yay!!"
"so we win again!! yay us!!"
am I the only one who isn't bothered one bit if someone chooses to use different software than I do?
not the only one
but onr of the very few
jepler: maybe inside the probe there is a "delay time" switch that configures false trigger immunity
"how can people decide to use that free emc, when _I_ payed for my mach licence?"
"surely _they_ are wrong..."
that's OK, it's just the mirror of what I think: how can that software possibly be any good? It costs money!
jepler: it's not, I tried it
jepler: nothing tells me what the options are - guess I'm going to have to open the probe to find it
[16:44:09] <alex_joni> http://blogs.osuosl.org/kreneskyp/2009/06/02/irssi-notifications-via-xmpp/
"Myself and otherses can't make an English senteince to save themselveses's lives"
cradek: is your probe "MP3"? I found a PDF which says "there is a nominal delay of 140us with a repeatability of 2us from the time the probe actually operates to the MI 12 interface indicating a probe change of state. Enabling the enhanced trigger circuit will add a further nominal 7 milliseconds"
SW2-1 ON enables the enhanced trigger circuit
it is MP700 but I think that might be made up of other parts - not sure
yeah, this isn't quite yours -- it uses 2 9V batteris
hm, it has 3 unmarked dip switches
cradek: >>am I the only one who isn't bothered one bit if someone chooses to use different software than I do?
I'm with you on that one. Use what you want and pay what you want... However, the thing that does bother me is when people (no one here) spread misinformation in order to distort the truth for their own gain.
FYI - The guy who wrote that last quoted Mach3 message has "download EMC2 live CD" on his todo list today! :-) We had a long chat yesterday..
yeah the spread of misinformation sucks
I wasn't trying to start a CNC war when I posted those message links yesterday, I just want you guys to know what was being said..
On a different subject - do you guys have any idea where EMC2 is being used.. Do you log IP's during downloads etc. For instance, is EMC2 very popular in China? I know that India is big into Linux.
Dave911: there are some statistics available, but we don't do a proper screening
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