dave was looking for me (I was out), but I've never worked on the STG driver
there's something wrong with his homing - I suspect wiring
on one axis it looked like index-enable only stayed high for one cycle
but his scope pics were not too great - hard to be sure what's going on.
also I did not really understand the test he described with drilling two holes. I think he should just set up an indicator and home repeatedly instead
that would be too easy
heh, I just opened my photo of the HBM and tried to pan around it to see how far the head extends from the column
been doing too much vismach I guess
I'm a little surprised - if you give scanf "%d %d" something like -1+1 it will still work
I thought the whitespace was important
oh, the manpage says so
CIA-37: wake up!
I miss cia...
EMC: 03jepler 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py:
EMC: * If tool touch-off doesn't make sense, don't allow it to be the default action in touch off
EMC: * get rid of debugging print
EMC: 03cradek 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/html/gcode.html: new G10 L1 stuff
EMC: 03cradek 07TRUNK * 10emc2/lib/python/ (vcpparse.py pyvcp_widgets.py): remove debug output
EMC: 03cradek 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/emc/task/emctaskmain.cc: remove debug output
EMC: 03cradek 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/emc/rs274ngc/rs274ngc_pre.cc: remove debug output
EMC: 03jmkasunich 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/hbmgui.py: vismach model of a large Horizontal Boring Mill
EMC: 03cradek 07TRUNK * 10emc2/debian/changelog: try to answer "what's new in 2.3?" missing: hostmot2, ladder, doc updates
cradek_ is now known as cradek
EMC: 03cradek 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_convert.cc: fix very outdated comment
EMC: 03cradek 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/html/gcode.html: fix G10 L1 link
I wish halscope could reread and display its log...
I wonder what the minimum/simplest way to do that would be
logging to file doesn't work ?
but you can't read that back into halscope to view it
EMC: 03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/debian/changelog: mention loading of stl's from vismach
I'm not pretty sure that logging to file works with high threads frequency, few times there was hole in logged values
it doesn't log continuously
yes, halscope is not designed to continuously sample values. halsampler is.
interesting - on startup, the interp applies any g92 offset saved in the var file (but only to XYZ, not ABCUVW).
that's probably a bug
I know this is a bug - but the question is: what bug is it?
surely it's deliberate code that causes the offset to be applied to XYZ
if so, I know which bug it is
but M2/M30 unapplies it. it seems very bizarre to start up with it applied
I lied - it does apply all nine of them
I don't see anything that says what the initial state is
I mean, in the docs
did I miss something?
BigJohnT: no, I don't think that's what cradek is saying
[18:21:53] <cradek> http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/personnel/kramer/pubs/RS274NGC_3.web/RS274NGC_33a.html#1019988
last paragraph of 3.2.2 is where I think the answer to my question would be
the initial state is the same as described in http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/personnel/kramer/pubs/RS274NGC_3.web/RS274NGC_33a.html#1002379
*except* the G92 part of #1
nobody cares about this, do they
I care.. just nothing to add.
my brain must be full. I can't remember g94/95/96/97 - I have to look them up (quick ref) every single time
Is it me - or had his english gotten much better? (or is this not the person I am thinking of)
guess I need to print myself a new quickref
cradek: i saw you committed debian changelog notes for 2.3.0... is it coming up?
I don't know really, but I did that hoping it would help get things going
I thought part of the problem was that none of us really remember what all is new
there's really quite a lot of good stuff
how's the mesa stuff?
i've been working on other things lately (making chips!) but i'm hoping to add support for the 5i22 in the next week or two
I have not even tried hm2 since you fixed the dac outputs
then there are a couple of pc-104/plus anyio cards which are similar to the 5i22 that'll come quickly after that
but the currently supported cards are pretty much working?
as far as i know...
the 7i43, 5i20, and 4i65 should all work
i think the 7i43 problems have all been cabling-related (EPP can be pretty finicky)
yes it sure can
yes - playing with the pluto - I found zip drive printer port cables are the best. :) about 20 inches long and well made.
(short of just plugging it into the printer port directly)
we definately need some mesa sample configs before release
and sherline for the matter
rumor says there's something wrong with the sherline timing defaults but I haven't seen any details yet
there was a thing jepler fixed
the lack of contributed hm2 configs makes me think no one has gotten it working yet :-(
regarding double step and the long step times of the sherline
seb_kuzminsky: most of the sample configs aren't contributed
I tried and failed (when dacs didn't work)
and besides, I currently can't use it without index-mask
not for homing
cradek: i think i fixed the bug that kept your dacs from working, encoder index-mask is gonna be a bit...
but you can surely make some test runs..
alex_joni: yes I could
but I can't use it day-to-day
* alex_joni shuts up...
I could probably run my 5i20 too..
come on chris - take one for the team.. ;)
at least with steppers
seb_kuzminsky: I'm not giving you a hard time, I'm just making excuses really
* skunkworks whistles to himself
cradek: i know ;-)
i'm hoping to convert my X2 this winter, then i'll commit my config ;-)
is it manual now, or stepper?
i occasionally imagine putting steppers on some axes and servos on others to make it a better testbed ... then i come to my senses
it would not be too hard for me to try mesa 5i20 on my stepper machine, I should do that..
yes you should!
if you're "on a budget" (or "cheap") you end up with stuff like that anyway
except it actually works right now
oh come on - break it for the good of mankind!
(well, except for that weird following error I got the other day)
jepler: it's an excuse for new/better drives
keep the old + pluto as a backup :)
well.. off to bed for me
good night all
"better" means "servo", though
i'm a bit worried/frustrated that all the users who asked for help with hostmot2 went away without saying it's working
makes me think they gave up
have you had any "works fine for me" reports at all?
oh well, just more incentive for me to get going on *my* machine conversion ;-)
anything I can do to help?
thanks cradek ...
my plan is to upgrade the acme screws & nuts to ballscrews & nuts, with timing pulleys & handles on the ends. mount servos & i'm pretty much done i think
Z has rack & pinion right now, i'll replace that with a ballscrew too
there's existing designs for most of this stuff (hoss etc), except the timing pulleys on the leadscrews
sounds like kind of a big project
especially since i'm, um, mechanically challenged :-/
but there's a bunch of good build logs of others who have done similar conversions, i just need to find a round tuit
just bring the mill to lincoln and camp out in chris's garage until he makes you all the parts you need on his bridgeport
that's more or less what I do
it's a longer drive, but you're welcome if you need to.
my plan is to make rough versions of the motor mounts etc on the mill in manual mode, then remake whatever needs it when it's converted
i was thinking of trying to start a "reverse pyramid scheme" for machine conversion...
something like this:
interesting idea (I can guess where this is going)
find someone who'll make the parts i need, in exchange for a promise that *i'll* make parts for the first two people who request it from me
put up a list of "people who owe the world parts" on a wiki someplace
we probably have that or better, informally, here
cradek: with you as the provider :-)
my favourite 24-bit number is 12648430
seb_kuzminsky: what property makes it your favorite?
what i like best about 12648430 is the coffee
[20:02:37] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGF07oVkl6M
is your cap bigger than your servo? :-P
why yes it is ;)
this is what is is 'designed' to run.. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSC_0242.JPG
spindle i hope? :-)
no - servo for an axis.
for this http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSCCurrent.JPG
i think my mill could comfortably be mounted on that angle plate
if you need to square up your mill, just send it to sam
I thought the same thing about my bridgeport vs. stuart's G&L
[20:11:54] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/frntcontroller.JPG
[20:12:06] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/rearcontrller.JPG
lol is that a tape drive?
We actually ran it this way until about 2 years ago when the controller finally smoked. Decided it was time for an upgrade
I had created a 'tape emulator' out of a 386sx
skunkworks: will it be a lot of work to convert it to electric servos?
work - yes. Don't know exactly yet.
z is going to be a pain. Right not the nut spins.
z and x shared the servo - the servo was on the base - so there was quite the drive train to get the motion to z.
are x,z the table? it doesn't have a quill?
horizontal mill - y is on the column - x and z are on the table.
the table moves in and out for the z axis.
skunkworks: is it going to be able to do pallet changes by itself?
yes - that is the plan.
it isn't really that many extra I/O
does this make sense? http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66859
I was figuring on a m1xx command.
(for pallet change)
it's true there is currently no way to program a lathe in diameter mode
(I'm not sure for how long we can say lathe support is "pretty new")
Jepler, please, when you will have the time, there is a small problem in the navigation of the French pages. The up "ʌ" link on index.html instead of index_fr.html
I do not find from which comes this problem!
tissf: I'll look into it, thanks
EMC: 03jepler 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/terms.xml: allow the 'back' link from footnotes to main text to be translated
wow! tanks ;)
EMC: 03jepler 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/l2h.xsl: link to correct index based on language. translate 'back' link from footnotes
EMC: 03jepler 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/xref.xsl: link to correct index based on language. translate several texts
EMC: 03jepler 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/docs.xml: allow different languages to link to different indexes
tissf: let me know if that fixes things for you in 2.3 .. if so I'll backport it into 2.2.
bbl I have to reboot :(
I'm leaving for awhile too
but I'll read back
jepler: The UP problem's solved Thanks
wonder why I am getting routed to the australian youtube..
anywhoo.. I think I need to keep the traces to the comparator separate from the rest of the logic/driver ic. I was a little lax in that area. I seem to be having different trip voltages between cw and ccw. I have not had enough time to really look at it - and I have to figure out how to do add and invert on this scope.
EMC: 03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/docs/src/ (docs.xml l2h.xsl terms.xml xref.xsl): french doc improvements from TRUNK
*supply - ground traces
bed time here, bye all