I made it to Roland's and just started setting stuff up.
How much table do we need for the developer area.
Right now I've got a U with six feet between .
I think we had 5 long tables last year, in a U shape
ok, sounds about the same
that was in addition to Aram at another table, JonE at another, and I think another table closer to the other section of the building
oh, and SteveS at another table by the overhead door
are your classes going to be in the main building?
how's the weather out there?
I think I can put 18' on each side of the U for 42' total
but some gets lost in the corners.
which way does the U face?
we had tables parallel to the "front" wall for the two sides, and one across the wall facing the school building for the base of the U
so it opened out toward the Mazak
maybe an E would be better this time - two U's next to each other, the middle section "double-wide"
I doubt that would fit, unless the shear has been moved
well, if 18' U sides would work, something has to have moved
unless those were 9' tables last year ;)
I can believe that
I think they were 8', so 2 of those + 1 across would be around 18'
I will have both my little machines. I will probably like to have 6' for my stuff, if that helps
we'll also need 6' for SWPadnos's food
then there are the computers
this year I think I'm just bringing one computer
I think I'm bringing less of those though
I'm bringing three laptops, two for the two machines and one for me to carry
probably not the big machine - just a laptop, the touchscreen PC, and one other
so I won't have the big monitor this time
It's hot already.
I'll have two via boards with 1280x1024 LCDs for classes though, if they're needed
we should all try to bring a fan. hot doesn't matter if the air is moving
I have a big box fan I was thinking about bringing
20" or so
better to move the dust around, huh? :)
Roland has plans for other tables for vendors like steve and jon.
I'll also plan some open table space for aram and others like him.
The shear is still there.
I could put a couple of tables along the west wall
The EMC class space is near the opening between the two tin buildings.
I'll make space for you're two via in the lab SWPadnos.
your or something like that.
I saw some box fans out there but don't know if they work.
they'll be "open-frame" - I don't have any sort of cases for them
rayh: are you missing anything yet that we can bring?
[03:28:53] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/cncworkshop07/DSC_3749.JPG
heh, all of us looking a bit dazed
EMC: 03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/tcl/tkemc.tcl: apply patch by Dewey Garett: allow the syncDelayTime to be altered by the user (through USER_COMMAND_FILE). this controls the behaviour of the FO slider
Just this once .. here's the log: http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emcdevel/2008-06-13.txt
alex_joni: fwiw, axis uses a hardcoded 1 second as the time to not update an override slider from stat buffer information
jepler: I see.. well dewey complained that the dafult is too fast
and he overrides it for himself..
(I remember it beeing very bad especially on old hardware.. but in the last time I didn't see a bad behaviour)
jepler: I see your apport question expired again.
cradek yeah. :( doesn't exactly make me hopeful about the fate of any bugs I file, but I guess I will file bugs
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Hi guys, final mad dash to get ready today. Did we find power transformers OK? Anything else I might offer to bring?
I have one transformer, 2KVA
I anyone sees RayH, please let him know that the tester boards are working and will be with me.
I < If
he's out there already - I think I have a phone number if you want it
he arrived at the workshop last night, and was online briefly then
maybe UPSes are in order this year ;)
I knew he was there. Is this a cell phone, or call Cardinal and chase him down?
I won't have my big monitor so we'll only need half the power as previous years
Is 2KVA enough?
steve_stallings: sorry I think I only have a cardinal number
ok - I won't have my big computer, so maybe we'll only need 1/4 the power
but... but... the coffee pot!!!
well, we'll have 2KVA more than last year
that's coming -have no fear ;)
maybe more - I think ray might have brought something too
coffee pot == 1KVA
there is some 120 there already - last year we didn't have any transformers
OK, I will try to bring another 2KVA just in case there is a need in a different place, like class area.
Here is a pic of the test boards that I am bringing for Ray's classes. All works, even tiny servo! http://www.pmdx.com/PMDX-112/PPEST_board.jpg
hey that looks neat
it has a servo with parport/software encoder counter?
Yes, PWM in software driving two bits, one for each side of H-bridge. Encoder feeback in software from port bits.
OK - I'm about to hit the road (only 3 hours late this time - woohoo!)
remember to bring parallel cables :)
SWPadnos: have a safe trip!
thanks. see you tomorrow evening
was there anything I'm supposed to bring?
other than food, computers, food, coffee, food, and some CNC related stuff?
coffee is the thing you bring that's most useful to me personally
not the quick reference cards? you don't use those?
not really. sadly I know gcode pretty well without them.
hey will you have the 6.06 and 8.04 install CDs or iso images?
(I may have to install my systems after I get there)
I can download them tonight. forget it, you're probably packed already.
I have 8.04 and maybe 6.06 on my laptop
and the laptop burns quite nicely
great - I won't have a burner this time
I have an extra one or two along - I know there's a SATA one, and I may also have an IDE
oh crap - I hadn't loaded the power supply
anyone have a smallish +/-15V supply?
I have a 60-pound behemoth that I don't really want to pack now (since the Jeep is full)
oh well. now on to the actual road. see you later
cradek: when abouts do you guys get there?
tomorrow, late afternoon or evening
damn, I missed swp
I'm pretty sure I have a suitable supply
jmkasunich: do you want some nice rack-mount P3 machines? I have a couple I could bring for you.
you have to pass them on to somebody who hasn't had them before
do I have to sell them for less than I paid too?
I recall there being a problem with that requirement
<= is OK
trying to remember what the latency was like on those
probably great unless they have some funny server thingy
(I had a scsi raid server thingy that messed up latency)
I remember running the test last year, but don't remember the result
we will be coming down wednesday afternoon.. So if there is anything we may have that you may need - let us know.
thanks we will :-)
I haven't tested the burner in my new laptop but I know it has one and I assume it'll work
I just have to decide whether to bring only two laptops, or to go ahead and bring 3.
I will have an external USB2.0 CD/DVD burner with wall power pack with me so it could be used by whomever.
Assuming Linux can figure out how to run a burner over USB.
I know it works as a reader under Linux on Asus eee PC.
last year I think we did OK at keeping ahead of the demand for CDs
OK time to run for now. If anyone has last minute ideas of things to bring, email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
I leave very early Saturday morning.
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I'll have a burner
I already have the 6.06 iso, I suppose I should download the 8.04 one
got the 8.04 iso, md5sum checks out
I'm gonna be going to hgr surplus in about an hour
anyone going to fest need anything that is small enough for me to throw in the truck?
jmkasunich: did you end up getting that 5 axis mill they had?
the price was way too high, and somebody else bought it long before the price dropped to what I would pay
jmkasunich: no scara's either?
sure, they have scara
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the last one looks nice
if I wanted one, I'm sure I'd be willing to pay that
I'd judge that in person
but I'd say $500 nice ;)
I'm waiting for one that is too cheap to pass up
but since I have so many projects, it would have to be _very_ cheap
like under $100
why settle for scara?
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you get a nice heavy cabinet for free :D
it's an extra $100 if you don't take the control
probably means you get the motor drives - so I'd sure take it
most robots use ac servos
well, I'm off
see you ;)