alex_joni, it looks like they may have done a perl change at DH - there are a lot more messages printed now when you run the logger
well.. if it still works ;)
heh - it seems to be about the same
did you mean pyvcp or vismach?
Hi cradek. I must have gotten it from trunk. I think that's all I've got here.
hal_input is in the user_comps directory, rather than the user_comps/devices dir
and of course doesn't have the word "joystick" anywhere in the file name :)
dangit, I see we missed that (one) file
jmkasunich: would you fix that license statement when you get a chance please
I believe that both of Roland's mazaks were fanuc CNCs.
was I totally wrong about a CRT being there?
No there is a crt.
Seems like 9 inch.
ok, phew! ;)
You're okay. I'm the one getting oldtimers.
(see - it's contagious)
the longer I wait the worse it gets :)
Nice post at cnc-zone. I don't understand any of it but...
Somebody said I could get on IRC and folk would help me.
that's just ad-scam
just for the heck of it, I checked the CNCzone ad prices. it looks like $200/month for one of those short banners
there are special spots that are $400/mo, and a cheaper rotating ad thing that's only $50
(thinking back to the Gecko thread on why EMC2 isn't "gaining groundswell")
or however he put it
I find it interesting that folk assume that open source stuff ha as limited reconfigurability as what they've been using.
there's also the assumption that you need to be able to write software to use it effectively
Who said EMC2 isn't "gaining groundswell?"
most people figure if you pay more for something it HAS to be better
even though many many people use Firefox and OpenOffice every day
ground swill -- otherwise known as dirty water.
"We don't muddy our waters by paying for advertising"
There you go.
hmmm - are there separate jog increments for each axis?
(just crious - don't need that feature)
Advertising, we don't need no stinking advertising.
Mini changes increments between rotary and linear.
ok, but not between linear axes
Or it did at one time.
I think the underlying NML messages may allow it (I think there's an increment passed with each JOG message)
That would seem to me to be really confusing.
oh, it is possible with an MPG - there's a separate scale input for each joint
just thinking about the idea of 2 MPGs per joint, plus 1 each for FO and SO :)
there's just no "continuous" with an MPG, which is fine
Okay! Okay! (Joe pesci) Question.
Yep. First is it possible to drive an axis, using any of our possible routes past the max vel set in the ini?
I was just thinking about that. I think the only way may be backlash comp related
but I'm not sure that's actually a way
Second, does g0 compute the actual tool tip vel at the hypotenuse of the angle between the axes involved.
hmmm. good question
So any of the jog pins in hal honor that max vel?
how come when I post a message on the gecko list - no one post for days?
the only thing that _might_ exceed ini settings si backlash
Fantastic. That is what I wanted to hear.
(because the backlash move will be happening at max the ini settings)
So If I've got 6m backlash I can go pretty fast.
and if the axis was already going in that direction, the two will get added
although it's quite uncommon for a backlash move to happen if you were already going in that direction
okay. I understand that.
usually backlash kicks in at reversals
so the joint speed should be low ..
Is accel honored by backlash comp?
Seem to remember something about that quite a while back.
yes. but the same limitations as for vel
(a while ago - I think around emc2_2.0.x - it wasn't)
regarding the G0 question, is the [TRAJ]MAX used as the commanded feed rate, or is the speed the vactor sum of the 3 joints max speeds?
(that was a typo correction, not a statement :) )
See BigJohnT was correct. You can get answers on IRC.
Oh. So the answer to the vector is still in the air.
I tried it with a g0 x5 y5 using axis and it said 72.
it appears to honor the axis max vels, but not [TRAJ]MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY
which may not have been fully implemented, come to think of it
ok, it does honor [TRAJ]MAX_VELOCITY
so you cna have joint limits that would allow faster tooltip motion, but still limit traverse with the TRAJ setting
SWPadnos, I confirmed that vector speed can be greater than axis max vel if traj max vel allows it.
The only problem I see with that is that the sliders in the gui then use traj and show a value faster than jogs can be.
yes. it could be surprising to see a vel that's sqrt(3) * what you expect
that's why MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY, MAX_ANGULAR_VELOCITY were made - to set the tops of the two sliders
it's a swirl, as jmkasunich would say
rayh: during a G0 across X&Y I get 525 IPM I don't know what my max is set for but each axis is set for 415IPM...
oh - those are for the GUI only, not for the TP?
maybe they should be walled MAX_*_JOG or something
BigJohnT, In theory on a 45 degree angle you should be able to see 586.
SWPadnos: they should be in [DISPLAY] (I think they are accepted there too)
It might be that I'm going from memory and you know how that is
Don't I though.
yep - I think I remember that :)
Just about finished with testing of the gOS $199 box from newegg.
I didn't have good luck with that board, but I didn't do too much testing either
actually it's the $60 MB+CPU thing that I have
rayh: how is it looking?
This mobo says PC2500G but ???
what speed is that one?
Pretty good. Jitter is <20000
The google implementation of enlightenment sucks big time.
Intended only for homes with a dhcp connection.
Cause it's hard to sudo and change to static.
Borked it for 8.04
That seems to be fine with the default Gnome manager.
I'm still twiddling with BIOS but should have numbers up by the end of the day.
I think I wasn't able to get better than ~50k or so, even after stopping X (but only on the liveCD maybe - I don't remember how I tested now)
cradek, Same via v vesa driver issue that I had with 8.04 on the jetway.
if you figure out what works, let me know - I have two boards :)
Who makes that board?
I think it's the same one you have - it was the gOS dev board from clubIT
1.5GHz Via C7+CN700
it appears to be made by Via
yep, there's a tag that says "ID-PCM7E PC2500 V1.0C"
no G here, but I know it has integrated graphics, which is what that often means
Okay. I'm seeing 13200 about for jitter on both
oh, it'sa PC2500E according to the manual
Right now I'm using the fail-safe BIOS defaults
I was planning on bringing one or both to the workshop. we can experiment there :)
I'm thinking of it for the lab machines.
ok. I'll be there all day Sunday (I think), so we can set up some stuff with mine if you need more PCs
Oh that would be great.
maybe I should write down "power supplies, keyboards, monitors" too :)
don't forget your mouse
The optimized BIOS defaults do a bit better <12000
no way! they can use the terminal!
heh - it would be funny to put those two google boards into these cases (which I have): http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/pc-93-3-rocketfish-aluminum-full-tower-case-black.aspx
time to run some errands. BBL
jmkasunich: would you please fix the license statement in hal_joystick? seems we missed one, back when.
I just didn't want to forget
my weekend got an early start
what is wrong with the license statement?
* License: GPL Version 2.1
is it supposed to be 2.0?
GPL2 and LGPL2.1 are valid choices
there is no GPL2.1
there is no GPL2.0 either
EMC: 03jmkasunich 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/src/hal/user_comps/devices/hal_joystick.c: fix license
EMC: 03jmkasunich 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/hal/user_comps/devices/hal_joystick.c: fix license
I discovered that my ups battery is good for 20ish minutes, maybe a bit more
don't recall exactly when the power died, after 15-20 mins when the rumor mill said it wouldn't be back till 6pm I left work, got home just in time to hear it screaming for relief
20 is a nice long time
during an outage it goes "beep" <pause> "beep" <pause> etc - as it gets lower the beeps get closer to gether
it was running _only_ the computer and kvm switch, till I got home and moved the mouse - I issued a shutdown command as the screaming got continuous, it was about 90% of the way to "power down" when the UPS cut out
hah, I thought this was a HAL thing at first: http://imagebin.ca/view/Mo_2nUba.html