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[04:11:51] <fenn> does anyone know why emc2 Depends: bwidget (<<1.8)
[04:13:21] <SWPadnos> I think later versions ended up being based on some tree rather than some list
[04:13:23] <SWPadnos> or something like that
[04:13:49] <SWPadnos> or maybe I'm thinking of the gtkclist changing into a tree. hmmm
[04:20:19] <CIA-22> EMC: 03fenn 07TRUNK * 10emc2/debian/shlibs.pre: libpth20 and libpth2 both point to the same shared library (libpth.so.20) so allow either one. libpth2 is only available for ubuntu and libpth20 for debian. this is needed for installing sim .deb's on debian
[12:46:32] <jepler> fenn: I really think you're doing the wrong thing by trying to install dapper-built .deb packages on ubuntu.
[12:47:06] <jepler> but on the other hand, if that works I don't see it causing a problem on ubuntu
[12:47:25] <jepler> er, "install dapper-build .deb packages on debian"
[12:52:52] <alex_joni> not built?
[12:54:52] <jepler> oh piss off
[12:55:20] <jepler> my rtai hardy machine crashed hard overnight :( I'm going to pretend it's because I reinstalled the kernel packages for the running kernel..
[12:55:34] <alex_joni> my hardy machine is gone :/
[12:55:54] <alex_joni> had to send it to the supplier, because of a borken touchpad
[12:56:06] <alex_joni> so I'll have to set up another machine for the moment :(
[12:56:24] <alex_joni> *maybe* I'll get it back soon
[12:56:41] <jepler> that stinks. could you at least pull the HD so you don't have to start over?
[12:56:49] <alex_joni> nope, it was a laptop
[12:57:00] <alex_joni> but a fresh start is sometimes good :)
[12:57:08] <alex_joni> at least I have some notes now
[12:57:21] <jepler> hm, some info got in syslog and unfortunately it implicates the ipipe patch.
http://pastebin.ca/950244
[12:57:31] <alex_joni> fsck
[12:59:00] <jepler> this was 2 hours after I stopped emc/rtai
[12:59:16] <alex_joni> how long was running emc/rtai before that?
[12:59:59] <jepler> in that run, not long. but on the same boot, I let the emc realtime testsuite run for about 14 hours.
[13:00:49] <jepler> Mar 17 19:08:00 hardly kernel: [ 408.861707] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered.
[13:00:49] <jepler> Mar 18 13:46:24 hardly kernel: [67411.799854] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered.
[13:01:04] <jepler> more like 18 hours, I guess.
[13:02:11] <alex_joni> yup
[13:10:13] <skunkworks_> if you wanted a machine to dial into... I could set one up here.. (you guys have done it before..)
[13:10:49] <cradek> jepler: yuck.
[13:10:50] <skunkworks_> I have a 2.something pentum 4 that is between jobs.
[13:11:23] <cradek> unfortunately this looks like an smp problem
[13:12:13] <alex_joni> especially the CPU#1 frozen for 12s part
[13:12:29] <alex_joni> BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 11s! [cron:6419]
[13:13:46] <alex_joni> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/197252
[13:14:40] <cradek> interesting
[13:15:01] <cradek> so once more we lose the crap-shoot
[13:16:53] <jepler> there's no way they can ship an smp-broken kernel
[13:17:59] <skunkworks_> is it an issue with amd processors?
[13:18:18] <jepler> skunkworks_: I don't think there's enough info to say yet
[13:19:20] <cradek> your kernel is not based on 2.6.24.8 is it? there are a handful of newer ones
[13:19:38] <jepler> it's based on the ubuntu kernel
[13:19:47] <skunkworks_> I have a core 2 duo here also...
[13:19:59] <cradek> I know, but hardly has had a dozen in the last few months
[13:20:31] <jepler> even worse, it may be based on 2.6.24.3
[13:20:32] <jepler> 1 VERSION = 2
[13:20:32] <jepler> 2 PATCHLEVEL = 6
[13:20:32] <jepler> 3 SUBLEVEL = 24
[13:20:35] <jepler> 4 EXTRAVERSION = .3
[13:20:36] <cradek> ack I've been typing the numbers wrong, they're 2.6.24-n
[13:20:37] <jepler> 5 NAME = Err Metey! A Heury Beelge-a Ret!
[13:20:47] <cradek> forget it
[13:21:31] <jepler> it's based on ubuntu's 2.6.24-22.12
[13:21:44] <jepler> but it looks like the last time they merged from the linus kernel was probably 2.6.24.3
[13:21:48] <cradek> -12.22?
[13:21:54] <jepler> yes.
[13:22:17] <cradek> that one has a busted framebuffer driver so I quit using it on lucky2
[13:22:19] <alex_joni> jepler: I think it's post 2.6.24.3, but pre .4
[13:22:47] <alex_joni> 2.6.24.3 is the last one released
[13:22:58] <jepler> oh
[13:22:59] <alex_joni> @ kernel.org
[13:23:23] <alex_joni> it's quite bleeding edge imo
[14:39:57] <cradek> does anyone know how to find a diff between linux-image-2.6.24-7-server and linux-image-2.6.24-12-server? I can't seem to get apt to give me the source for -7- so I can't generate it
[14:41:21] <jepler> cradek: yes, I think i can help you with that
[14:42:24] <alex_joni> cradek: the whole package? or just the .config?
[14:43:06] <jepler> do you know the x and y in 7.x to 12.y?
[14:44:21] <jepler> there's a *lot* in there
[14:45:57] <cradek> 7.12 to 12.22
[14:46:25] <cradek> I'd be happiest to just get the source trees. I don't need a diff.
[14:46:52] <alex_joni> git pull?
[14:47:03] <jepler> yes, you can get those from the kernel git
[14:47:13] <jepler> (that's how I would generate a diff or log)
[14:47:15] <cradek> the ubuntu versions?
[14:47:45] <cradek> I want the corresponding source to the kernel-image packages I have installed
[14:48:12] <jepler> yes the ubuntu versions
[14:48:25] <cradek> cool
[14:48:37] <cradek> (but I'm puzzled as to why I can't get them from apt)
[14:48:45] <jepler> http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi-files/sandbox/7.12-to-12.22.log http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi-files/sandbox/7.12-to-12.22.patch.bz2 (the patch is 3M so don't fetch it if you don't want it)
[14:48:56] <alex_joni> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git;a=tags
[14:48:59] <jepler> that I can't answer
[14:49:07] <jepler> do you want me to help you use git to get that source?
[14:49:47] <cradek> yes that would be great
[14:49:50] <cradek> I isntalled git
[14:50:55] <jepler> OK
[14:52:36] <alex_joni> cradek: try this one:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/linux/2.6.24-7.12