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[01:05:12] <alex_joni> hi swampy :)
[01:05:34] <SWPadnos> ho Alex
[01:05:38] <SWPadnos> uh - hi
[01:05:53] <alex_joni> what's up? didn't see you lately
[01:06:11] <SWPadnos> I was on vacation - went to Miami for a while and also went on a cruise
[01:06:38] <SWPadnos> it's much colder here at home :)
[01:09:27] <alex_joni> I can imagine..
[01:10:31] <SWPadnos> http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33132
[01:10:32] <SWPadnos> vs
[01:10:38] <SWPadnos> http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=05452
[01:15:53] <alex_joni> hmm.. did it ever happen to you that on a laptop one of the touchpad buttons doesn't work anymore?
[01:18:05] <SWPadnos> it's happened on a mouse, so I imagine it could happen for a touchpad as well
[01:19:25] <alex_joni> it's quite odd.. only left click doesn't work.. right click works ok
[01:21:44] <SWPadnos> is it a button, or a region of the touchpad?
[01:21:55] <alex_joni> button
[01:22:15] <alex_joni> (although as long as tapping the touchpad is turned on, that doesn't work either..)
[01:22:28] <alex_joni> when I swap the buttons, and I tap the touchpad, it produces a right-click
[01:22:47] <alex_joni> (that's quite odd..)
[01:23:24] <alex_joni> I left it with changed keys, now the right click works as a primary, and the secondary click doesn't at all :)
[01:24:04] <SWPadnos> odd
[01:24:15] <SWPadnos> X or Windows?
[01:25:05] <alex_joni> both
[01:25:16] <alex_joni> installed XP + dapper live
[01:25:23] <alex_joni> so I guess it's a HW thing
[01:25:30] <SWPadnos> hmmm. sounds like it
[01:25:40] <SWPadnos> could be BIOS though - I think that's what manages the touchpad
[01:26:22] <alex_joni> think a BIOS reset might do anything good?
[01:26:29] <alex_joni> (not reflash..)
[01:26:30] <SWPadnos> no ;)
[01:26:46] <alex_joni> that's what I would expect too..
[01:26:50] <SWPadnos> I'm not hopeful that it would, and if you changed much, it might be more trouble than it's worth
[01:27:04] <alex_joni> (I do see a message mouse initialized at the end of POST)
[01:27:19] <alex_joni> I didn't change anything in BIOS
[01:27:46] <alex_joni> in fact the whole machine can be sent to repair without much trouble.. so I'll do that (warranty still ok)
[01:28:09] <SWPadnos> cool
[02:14:17] <SWPadnos> hmmm - do halscope/halmeter know if a component is removed while it's being probed?
[02:14:26] <SWPadnos> for parameters, that could be a problem
[02:14:53] <jmkasunich> its not a problem - (other than that the data stops changing)
[02:15:17] <jmkasunich> the data is all in the hal shmem block, and that doesn't get unmapped until all of hal shuts down
[02:15:18] <SWPadnos> though it could magically start changing again if the param memory space is used for another component
[02:15:27] <SWPadnos> right - so no GPF/segfaults then
[02:54:45] <cradek> now that I have KINS_BOTH, I can mostly do my jogging in joint mode, and that gives me a reasonably well-working machine. When we get teleop fixed and joint constraints, this will work really well
[07:57:34] <fenn> cradek: i am curious, where did you originally discover the DIY roller screw?
[12:37:03] <cradek_> cradek_ is now known as cradek
[12:44:41] <cradek> fenn: I don't know - I saved that link a long time ago, I don't remember how I ran across it
[14:31:47] <Unit41> afaik there has been no time like the present
[14:36:19] <rayh> Um, Yes.
[14:37:39] <SWPadnos> at the moment, there is no time like the past
[15:00:16] <alex_joni> too much eggnog ?
[15:00:54] <SWPadnos> I only had one sip - it was terrible
[15:01:20] <alex_joni> haha
[15:12:19] <rayh> Fam discovered mudslide this year. Much to much of it mixed in coffee.
[15:13:04] <alex_joni> mudslide?
[15:13:09] <skunkworks> mmmmm mudslide..
[15:13:19] <skunkworks> chocolate alcholic drink
[15:13:37] <rayh> some sort of chocolately milky 25 proof...
[15:14:05] <rayh> In the old days we spoke of "coffee with a stick"
[15:14:53] <alex_joni> bbl :)
[15:15:04] <skunkworks> nice ray - you scared him away.
[15:15:56] <rayh> Hope he doesn't shy away from fest because he thinks we drink to much.
[15:16:52] <SWPadnos> only coffee at Fest :)
[15:16:58] <SWPadnos> well, that and Red Bull
[15:17:37] <skunkworks> heh
[15:18:03] <jepler> and of course all the injected hard drugs
[15:18:10] <SWPadnos> shhhh
[15:18:31] <skunkworks> injected? did I miss that?
[15:18:34] <skunkworks> darn
[15:18:52] <SWPadnos> uh - yeah, that was only the first two days, and only after 10:00 at night
[15:30:58] <cradek> jepler: the viper visualization is like my 5axis except the table moves for one direction. I think it's called a bridge instead of a gantry. so vismach needs to "drag around" the "workpiece" in order to draw the path correctly. is there a way to do this?
[15:31:56] <SWPadnos> a Bridgeport would need to do the same thing, I think (since the table moves)
[15:33:12] <cradek> right
[15:33:23] <cradek> most machines are that way, but none that we've modeled in vismach so far
[15:33:43] <SWPadnos> ah
[15:36:00] <jepler> cradek: yes -- in the scara, there is a table that "tips" and moves the work with it
[15:37:13] <skunkworks> fenns hexapod also
[15:40:33] <jepler> placing the object created by 'work = Capture()' in the right place in the tree is supposed to do it
[15:42:53] <cradek> I will pass that along, thanks
[19:48:13] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/house/floorcat.JPG
[19:49:04] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/house/morefloor.JPG
[19:49:32] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/house/evenmorefloor.JPG
[19:52:22] <jepler> indeed, it looks nice
[20:02:41] <skunkworks> jepler: thanks
[20:03:08] <skunkworks> howie is still upset about the whole kitchen remodel :)
[20:03:37] <skunkworks> cries over here - cries over there..
