it seems odd that installing emc2 would require "gcc-3.4-base"
The following extra packages will be installed:
gcc-3.4-base lapack3 libg2c0 python2.4-imaging-tk python2.4-numarray
The following packages will be REMOVED:
The following NEW packages will be installed:
gcc-3.4-base lapack3 libg2c0 python2.4-imaging-tk python2.4-numarray
The following packages will be upgraded:
1 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 1 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
jmkasunich: I remember seeing that. it isn't required directly by emc2, but by some other (mispackaged) thing that is an emc2 dependency. I forget which one though.
I see you are upgrading from emc 2.0. it has been a while hasn't it.
I'm not too worried about it, figured I'd post it so the packaging experts could see it
* cradek looks around
something is fubared with the ubuntu desktop clipboard
highlight text in a shell, click on edit->copy
try to paste it into an editor, and I get something I copied a long time ago
there are two clipboards
since gnome at least
I used to be able to do what I'm trying to do now
one is the normal X clipboard (select text. middle click somewhere else)
the other is the windowslike clipboard (select text. do something on a menu. go to another app. do something else on a menu.)
well neither one seems to work
pasting into what app?
I take that back, the middle click one does work
I've _never_ used the middle click one before, the one I used to work just plain doesn't anymore
shocking that gnome-app-to-gnome-app doesn't work
I've always used the middle click (aka "the X way")
can you do a quick try the other way, just to see if this is unique to my box
copy from a shell to an editor
sorry I don't have gnome here
(or are you not using gnome?)
you're using gnome-terminal?
huh. I don't even know what to suggest.
well, the middle click thing worked, so I'm content
well, not content, but able to do what I needed to do
[05:15:33] <jmkasunich> http://jmkasunich.com/cgi-bin/blosxom/shoptask/mounted-monitor-12-07-07.html
wow that looks like a huge screen
15" for $99
it's strange. for smaller the price goes up (fast)
you can never have too many pixels anyway
how close are you to moving it?
depends on how nice I want to make it
maybe this weekend, if I cut some corners
I still need to figure out a way to mount the keyboard (and a mouse)
then stick the PC in the box, hook it to monitor and kb, etc
mount the drives and power supply (holes are already drilled, that will be quick)
then wire from parport to drives and drives to motor
mouse seems like a problem
(I'm gonna start with the parport, then graduate to the mesa later)
* jmkasunich checks microcenter.com
I'm trying some external trackpad/glidepad thing
either that or nipple mouse (maybe made into a small joystick) seems best to me (no moving parts)
[05:21:12] <jmkasunich> http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0216472
no little wheels to get gunked up
I assume you can remove the marble for cleaning
[05:21:40] <cradek> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826152020&Tpk=%257cATP-400UB
(its an opticla mouse turned upsidedown)
I hate those little pad things
I think they're (slightly) better than the nipple
I hate those marble trackballs :-)
they always get a cat hair under the ball and freaks out
an optical mouse actually has a chance to work, if I can find a flat spot to run it on
I have had no luck with an optical mouse on my white painted bench
I finally found a mouse pad and that fixes it
must not be enough for it to 'see'
I got one of those rather awful rubber sealed keyboards, I'm thinking a piece of 1/8 aluminum is all it needs
let me know what you think of it after a while...
I need to make "ssh -X" work - this computer is only about 4 steps away from the machine, so if I have lots of typing to do I'll step over here
I'm sure it will suck
but I intend to have lots of physical (halui) controls
so I shouldn't be typing or mousing _too_ much
yeah especially mousing should be completely unnecessary
if you have to use the mouse it's a gui bug :-)
in the 2nd pic, you can see a black nameplate below the screen
(its a threading feed chart, or belt chart, or some such sillyness)
I want to put a joghweel somewhere in that area
the spindle motor switches below that are also gonna go away (spindles will be controlled by emc using contactors)
if you can jog left handed...
well, theres no place to the right to mount anything
I could put the wheel on a pendant, but that would probably be a pain
I suppose I could put it on the millhead
you don't want it over head level either
(don't know how low you sit there)
I just stood in front of the machine, pretended to be staring at the workpiece and turning the knob, and it seems to work
I don't sit in front of the machine, I stand
I do have a tall wooden stool if my feet get tired
I always sit (close/low) for small lathe work
well, you have a small lathe
if you sit, you get chips in your lap
yeah both are smallish
that's true. I wear one of those aprons sometimes
hmm... I have a problem
I can't find that keyboard
you don't want it until your setup is all done anyway
I want to be able to work the computer
oh I assumed you had another to use while you still have a lot to type
no matter what keyboard I have, there isn't a place to mount it over there
(right now the computer is on my bench and plugged into my KVM, so I'm using this keyboard and screen
evil - it is USB
there is a PS2 to USB widget attached tho
14 x 5-1/2" it's almost exactly as wide as the monitor
crap - the shoptask PC locked up
opps... I noticed on a picture of your shoptask, that you had a different z axis automation.... what is the setup for Z?
are you using a leadscrew or the internal rack and pinion?
a ballscrew, rotating nut
cool... do you have more detailed pictures?
drawing here: http://jmkasunich.com/cgi-bin/blosxom/shoptask/Z-axis-12-16-06.html
I built that about 3 years ago
and I've yet to actually run it
cool.. I spent a lot of time trying to improve the quill feed... a lot of backlash in the large internal rack
and even more in the wormgear and clutch contraption
I'm a little concerned that the quill will tilt due to off-axis drive
thats why I got the screw as close as I could to the spindle centerline
I would like to replace the whole z axis head with a higher speed spindle as I mostly do small stuff like PCB's
I owuld like to replace the whole head period
but I dunno what with
I figure I should get the existing machine CNCed first
even what I have works ok... the quill spring keeps most of the lash under control
for the original drill press mode
oh, I see
that takes the lash out of the clutch and worm only though, right?
(the rack is preloaded only by its own weight)
I long ago took off all the levers.... my machine came cnc'd, but I had to tighten up thez axis quite a bit... way too many non precision moving parts
yeah, they are definitely a kit machine
I pulled the entire Z mess off, covered the hole with a scrap of 1/16" aluminum
I was thinking of adding one of those $100 x,y tables on a bridge type arrangement with a trim router as the spindle... that would allow cutting keyways on the lathe
the table would move the router, not the workpiece?
yes.. mount table in place of existing head... one axis would parallel X and the other would be the new Z
oh I see - the bridge would go from the headstock all the way to the tailstock end
kind of like the bridgeport copy machines
making a rigid attachment to the machine base might be the hard part (at the tailstock end especially)
I've been pondering ways to improve the pathetic rigidity for years
most involve some kind of bridge
but none seem easy, or worth the effort
yes. when I picked up my machine, they had one modified with a bridge setup..
everything I've consideded also involved making it possible to raise and lower the head - the Z travel sucks
z is limited... its a real pain switching from milling pcb's to normal drilling.... I have a 4" thick riser I bolt to the table for mounting pcbs
I managed to forget how much of a pita that is
I've been using it exclusively as a lathe for a couple years now
I do heavy milling on the Van Norman, and either avoid light milling, or do it on the VN as well
bbl... got someone at the door
* jepler tries to find the motivation to look at condit's configuration files
the problem with stepconf is that it makes configuring a machine easy
iow, it puts configuring a machine in the reach of people who can't deal with problems
or maybe there's a bug
but how am I supposed to debug a config for a machine I don't own...?
if the user tells it that all three axes are the same, and it generates a config with all three axes the same, and only one axis doesn't work, I doubt its a bug in stepconf
they do have different max velocity values entered
hm and the stepconf ones have much higher accelerations configured
ah, so he's probably stalling on accel
stepconf [AXIS_0]MAX_ACCELERATION = 30.0; old MAX_ACCELERATION = 20.0
one axis might have less inertia and can handle the higher rate
why the hell didn't he look at the files and find that
how would stepconf know that?
yay! do I get a cookie?
* jepler wanders off again
SWPadnos: oddly enough the neighbors just brought over their customary plate of christmas cookies
so help yourself
all I have is this snickers bar
EMC: 03tissf 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/ (Master_HAL_fr.lyx Submakefile index.tmpl index_fr.tmpl): French translation
EMC: 03tissf 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/config/stepconf_fr.lyx: French translation
EMC: 03tissf 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/hal/ (8 files): French translation