#emc-devel | Logs for 2007-11-02

[22:55:00] <alex_joni> starting them now
[22:55:02] <SWPadnos> thanks
[22:56:13] <SWPadnos> hmmm. what could that mean?
[22:56:46] <cradek> it bombarded a channel, and freenode kicked it
[22:57:03] <SWPadnos> ah, just not this channel
[22:57:14] <cradek> right
[22:58:55] <cradek> does anyone have a log of that stuff?
[22:59:18] <SWPadnos> this channel?
[22:59:22] <cradek> yes
[22:59:28] <SWPadnos> what day? I should have logs
[22:59:57] <cradek> 10/29 ~ 0300UTC
[23:00:08] <SWPadnos> ok
[23:00:55] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emcdevel/2007-10-29.txt
[23:01:35] <cradek> ah, thanks
[23:01:48] <alex_joni> halshow doesn't work :)
[23:01:56] <cradek> jepler fixed it?
[23:01:57] <SWPadnos> is that a feature?
[23:02:15] <cradek> it works now
[23:02:46] <cradek> (I like halshow)
[23:03:06] <cradek> but I guess I usually use watch+halcmd because it's faster for me to start
[23:03:24] <cradek> my clicking skills are ill-evolved compared to my typing skills
[23:07:43] <cradek> jepler: is there a difference between Machine/Coordinate system for touch off, and the same selection in the touch off window?
[23:08:07] <cradek> they seem to do the same thing
[23:12:58] <cradek> also we had talked about making M2/M30 set G94,G97
[23:13:21] <cradek> (I think it might be a bug that it doesn't)
[23:26:37] <cradek> ah, it's just a bug
[23:32:51] <CIA-40> 03cradek 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_convert.cc: turn off css/fpr on m2/m30, since the spindle turns off.
[23:33:22] <cradek> I'm sad to be touching so many things... good thing that's the last bug
[23:34:14] <alex_joni> heh :D
[23:34:25] <alex_joni> if I had a penny for everytime I said that :P
[23:34:48] <alex_joni> s/I/someone/
[23:34:55] <cradek> yep I was joking actually
[23:35:09] <cradek> but I think that's the last one that I see right now
[23:35:21] <SWPadnos> there was a piece of software that was bug-free in its first release
[23:35:21] <cradek> (or have been trying not to notice)
[23:35:24] <SWPadnos> actual commercial software
[23:35:32] <SWPadnos> I only know of one though
[23:36:08] <cradek> are we supposed to guess?
[23:36:17] <SWPadnos> of course, now I don't remember the name of it :)
[23:36:24] <SWPadnos> it was a remote desktop sharing application for NextStep
[23:36:50] <cradek> I suspect no nontrivial app is bugfree
[23:36:50] <alex_joni> I think you refer to "Hello World!"
[23:37:00] <cradek> or /bin/false
[23:37:15] <SWPadnos> no, this was a nontrivial app, and it was bug free in revision 1.0
[23:37:16] <alex_joni> well.. /bin/true is bugfree
[23:37:28] <SWPadnos> but as I said, it's the only one I've ever heard of
[23:40:50] <alex_joni> tissf: great job on the translations
[23:45:07] <alex_joni> haha.. we should start to use comments like this in the code:
[23:45:14] <alex_joni> (o o)
[23:45:14] <alex_joni> +----oOO-{_}-OOo--------------------------------+
[23:45:14] <alex_joni> | Now we have the components Itemids everywhere |
[23:45:14] <alex_joni> | Please use these constants where ever needed |
[23:45:14] <alex_joni> +----------------------------------------------*/
[23:45:53] <cradek> uh yeah
[23:46:09] <jepler> cradek: it's that way to let people choose the coordinate system in either the old way or the new (on the dialog) way.
[23:46:08] <tissf> thanks :)
[23:47:03] <alex_joni> oh, the hair got lost:
[23:47:05] <cradek> jepler: it seems odd to have the same thing in two places
[23:47:06] <alex_joni> * _\|/_
[23:47:12] <jepler> cradek: take out the one in the menu, then
[23:47:44] <alex_joni> does the one on the dialog work as a default-remembering thingie?
[23:47:49] <cradek> now that everything is by name, can I just remove it?
[23:47:52] <cradek> alex_joni: yes that one remembers too
[23:48:03] <alex_joni> then remove the menu one without worries :D
[23:50:11] <jepler> alex_joni: it's not remembered from session to session, but it is remembered in the session
[23:50:49] <cradek> aha!!
[23:51:33] <cradek> http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/bad-m.png
[23:51:38] <cradek> I got this yesterday
[23:52:12] <cradek> I have no clue what it means but I bet it's important
[23:52:35] <jepler> figured out how to make it happen yet?
[23:52:56] <cradek> I'm going to start by printing th emdi command
[23:53:02] <SWPadnos> hmmm. I wonder if that's actually "ctrl-M" - ie return??
[23:53:44] <SWPadnos> dunno how it would get in there, or why it would be printed as an 'm', but it does raise a suspicion in that direction
[23:54:03] <alex_joni> maybe a sticky 'alt' or 'control' key
[23:54:34] <jepler> result, seq = gcode.parse("", canon, "M199 P["+v+"]", "M2")
[23:54:58] <jepler> there are two "M"s that should be in the gcode that is being interpreted there...
[23:55:29] <SWPadnos> oh, that error is more or less straight from the gcode parser?
[23:55:34] <cradek> yes
[23:56:03] <SWPadnos> ok. I'll eat now, instead of suggesting useless debugging paths :)
[23:56:03] <jepler> yes. when I command "G0 A100" in mdi on a 3axis machine, I get this: Bad character 'a' used
[23:56:14] <jepler> (it's lowercase regardless of the case in the MDI command)
[23:56:54] <tissf> LinuxCNC.org
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[23:56:58] <tissf> Please notify the System Administrator
[23:57:08] <cradek> I don't know how to debug this
[23:57:23] <cradek> I also don't know if this is the bug people report (seems like it's not)
[23:57:23] <jepler> first you have to figure out how to make it happen consistently
[23:57:32] <cradek> it's permanently happening here
[23:57:42] <jepler> that's similar to the bug reported by others, in that it "sticks"
[23:58:09] <SWPadnos> does it go away if you home / shift-end / type in a number ?
[23:58:13] <cradek> if I accept the default 0.0, it works
[23:58:23] <cradek> if I type anything, it's permanently stuck with the 'm' error
[23:58:46] <cradek> it IS still interpreting because if I type [ I get the error about no matching right bracket
[23:58:50] <jepler> the 'is it valid' check hasn't run yet if you don't insert any characters
[23:59:03] <cradek> SWPadnos: that does not fix it
[23:59:16] <SWPadnos> hmmm. how about [1.2]
[23:59:27] <cradek> as soon as I type ] I get the 'm' error back
[23:59:43] <jepler> the bracket errors come "before" the string is passed to the interpreter
[23:59:55] <cradek> oh hey, when I mdi M199, I get this error.