to whom it may concern: use of your software requires the ability to distinguish the 26 uppercase characters, the 26 lowercase characters, the ten numeric characters, and sundry punctuation and whitespace. I find this onerous.
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wHat r utalk1ng about
why do people tolerate fonts which don't let them tell all the letters apart?
I often have a hard time with lower case L and numeral 1
isn't that the most basic function of a font?
why do you tolerate the font then?
most fonts that are useful for programming are not the same ones that look pretty for other things, such as text documents and email
proportional fonts are great for other apps, since you can generally tell from context whether you're looking at a 1 or an l
but I'd have to look at everything in courier
* jepler <-- reads e-mail in a fixed-width font with very distinct Il1
but I do notice that the default sans font in firefox doesn't do Il very distinctly
I sometimes find myself copying text into a programming editor to see what it really is
yeah -- before I remembered that some people don't connect all their computers to the internet (heresy!) I was asking myself, why didn't you just copy 'halcmd -I' into the terminal?
and there I was thinking "how can you not distinguish between an I and a 1? I mean, 1 and l sure, but I?? :)
'Jobo today announced its latest portable storage device - The GIGA one ultra'
man I gotta get me a Jobo GIGA one ultra
no, a Drobo!
* cradek points at skunkworks
sorry - missed the /
I know - just making fun
how's it going?
it happens quite often - I blame the keyboard.
Good - busy.
although it has been raining here for the last 3 days
yeah, here too
it might finally be dry today
I ended up taking the engine out of the subaru this weekend as the local tech school (were the wife works) is in need of engines to overhaul.
it went suprisingly smooth. - other than dumping a quart of transmission fluid on the ground.
uh, did it need an overhaul or are you just being helpful?
yes - the thing has a major oil leak (quart a week) and it has piston slap which is a bit embarassing.
it wasn't one of our best purchases
cool, a free rebuild will be nice then
the tech school was excited because it is an 'odd' engine (flat 4)
we have to pay for parts - but still.
what parts? rings, gaskets?
full overhaul - including pistons and boring.
still, that's not much I bet
hmm, wish I had done that with my "beloved" toyota...
the last I checked - overhaul kit with pistons was around $700 - I am hoping they can get a better deal - but still not bad when long blocks cost 2800
wow, that seems like a lot
yah - it isn't a chevy 350 ;)
I checked out pricing for a crate engine for my toyota - iirc it was like $4k
how about you - still liking the mill?
what year toyota?
my favorite car ever
(not very practical though)
cool. the wifes brother had a mr2 - he pronounced it mr. 2
mine's long gone, I traded it in a few years ago
he is 6'4 so I can't imagine him in one..
that was a mid engine 2 seater - wasn't it?
yeah there's not a lot of headroom. the VW is better for tall people
I had a pontiac fiero for a while. fun but underpowered.
26 mpg every tank, no matter what you do to it
my current 12 year newer car gets worse mileage than that, but has much more power
actually I get about 24-29 depending on the conditions
could be better :-/
when I was in high school, a lot of people had fieros, they were really popular for a bit but must not have lasted because you don't see them now
we bought a new toyota - 06 maybe - and it gets 36mpg. very happy with it.
(it is supposed to get 41 - but I think the highest we have ever seen is 38)
those ratings are pretty optimistic
we put 30k on and we have only had it a year so far :(
when I look for a car, I start out looking for something with good mileage, but then I drive something powerful/sporty and decide to get that instead :-)
but I like very small cars so I can get some of both
thats not good :) - I have not driven my stealth for about a year now. It gets around 24mpg if I keep my foot out of it. I can get as low as 10mpg with the thing and it take premium.
better sell it sooner rather than later
yah. it needs a few things fixed and it will be up for sale.
my dad just bought a new (!) full size truck that gets 17 highway
he mostly drives it to work
I think he's crazy
but, lots of people drive those big things for everyday stuff
my father bought a scion - (the toaster looking car).. We drove it to the cnc workshop. He really likes it and it gets 36 or so mpg also.
I'm considering a honda fit which is also supposed to have fuel efficiency in the upper 30s .. the back seat is fairly roomy too, for a guy my size.
Yes - the guy here at work has been looking at the fit. the seating is very flexable.
you can fit a lot of stuff in it.
that's certainly one of the gimmicks, and my friend who has one seemed pretty happy about that part too
the only thing he really didn't like was the road noise.
I sat in the back of one and thought it was roomy also.
jepler: if you get a small car, maybe you won't be stuck driving us all around all the time
cradek: no, I'll be stuck in the back seat of someone else's not-quite-roomy-enough car instead
the guy here mainly wants a vehicle that he can carry his not yet purchased 17in telescope.
it's purely selfish that I want to drive to work every day
jepler: oh right, I didn't think of it that way.
er, drive to lunch
is that settled?
no, I haven't decided whether to buy the model with the cruise control yet
of course you should
(are you kidding?)
* skunkworks still can't believe they sell cars still without cruise
the problem is, that only comes on the model they call "sport" which has some dorky body differences
dads scion needed an aftermarket cruise installed as they don't come from the factory with one.
oh btw, get air conditioning too
skunkworks: that's very bizarre
I added (factory) cruise to my mustang - it was a very huge pain
the toyota corrola came with it..
you have to take a wheel and body parts off!
because part of it goes inside the fender... unbelievable
with modern drive-by-wire cars, cruise control is a few buttons and some software - I don't understand why they wouldn't always include it
"I hadn't heard that anyone has released an aftermarket cruise solution that works with the drive-by-wire throttle of the Fit. Are you aware of one, and if so, can you share the make, model info?"
-- teh intarwebs
aftermarket cruises are soon going to be a thing of the past
it's no longer just a speed sensor + thing to pull the throttle cable
*/ I hacked my honda to run linux.... */
you all laugh now...
'It sounds quick too; the bassy VTEC buzz reverberates through the cabin whenever the mini mill crests 3500 rpm. Let's reiterate; the Fit's 16-valver motorvates 2471 lbs. with 105 ft.-lbs. of torque. Little dog, big bite. Make that nip; the Fit's fast-acting drive-by-wire throttle is a price point bonus.' -- wow, this shit is unreadable and also I have no idea what it means (from thetruthaboutcars.com)
I understand "the engine noise reverberates through the cabin"
I'm not sure it's a good thing though
well how else are you supposed to make a car sound exciting but by using strange language
it's a compound backrortmanteau
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jepler: you know once you have the power of the v-tech your going to have to mount a big wing and huge exhaust tip..
you can make a good wing from an old ironing board
they look especially great on a hatchback
why does he call it a mini mill?
"bassy VTEC buzz reverberates through the cabin whenever the mini mill crests 3500 rpm"
does it come with CNC built in?
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sorry. router woes.
jepler: little spoilers like that can significantly redeuce wind noise at highway speeds
mill can be used as powerplant. so - small engine.
i've never heard of a car engine called a mill
it is a stretch
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Is trunk the code for 2.2 or am I just not seeing a branch?
there is not a branch yet
to prevent duplicated effort, we're going to make the branch and 2.2.0 at the same time
Okay so it will be extracted from the current trunk.
[15:53:05] <skunkworks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=573980
Need to get 512MB of archives.
-- upgrading my gutsy machine
style question: "feed rate" or "feedrate"?
looks like "feed rate" is already more widely used in the documentation
probably feed rate and traverse rate
rather than feedrate and traverserate
you know, I just realized that Omaha is in the same state as Lincoln
for some reason, I had pictured Stuart's shop as being somewhere near Jon E - like St. Louis or something
how is it going?
long time no see
skunkworks: pretty good actually
alex_joni: good :)
stuart's in wichita, not omaha
hey - maybe that's part of my confusion
I must have been thinking about the steaks instead ;)
only a part, if you didn't know about lincoln and omaha...
well, I knew they were in the same state, but it didn't matter unless I thought I knew people in both cities
ah I see
just us chickens
how does this look: http://sudura.ro/joomla/index.php
looks good. the banner text (welcome ...) does funny things with very narrow windows
also, if you increase the font size, the banner doesn't get taller, so the text wraps over the top set of links
the narrow window I can fix with a minimum width
alex_joni: that's a big improvement
still fighting with the right div
it doesn't want to get alongside with the content div
(the one with polls in it)
yeah I assumed you'd fix that :-)
and the spelling of 'powerful' too, heh
[20:14:01] <cradek> http://www.hgrindustrialsurplus.com/search-products/product-detail.aspx?id=30-410-003&searchtable=2&sortExpression=&SortASC=&pageSize=50¤tPageIndex=0
hey look at that
you should get one ;)
if I do any mass production I'm going to have to make shields like that
sounds like a plan.
cradek: better now?
it's nice to have flood coolant but I still need to do something with the output
currently it runs out the back hole in the table into a trash can :-)
you need a filter + recirculation pump
alex_joni: the white rectangle goes partway behind the poll
yeah, I know I should filter it but I haven't used enough to care
I have 5 gals, dilute 20:1 => not worth filtering
cradek: don't know enough about div's and css :/
the problem is using it all up before it goes off
alex_joni: the black rectangle with the © in it does the right thing, just copy that
skunkworks: that looks like a real beast
cradek: you mean like this?
yes - almost looks like the spindle tilts?
I still would like a min-width on the main content
so it doesn't get resized further
I think css has that...
that was what was there before
(why the white stuff stayed behind)
this is better then...
[20:43:33] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/
alex_joni: by chance have you tried it on ie?
trying now :D
is it bad?
the top pane is a little odd.
yeah, that.. I'll fix it
it has to be expanded out pretty far before you can read it
ah - ok
[20:49:03] <skunkworks> http://imagebin.org/11078
skunkworks: better now?
Yes - although the space between the upper left penguin pick and the vertical bar could be reduced.
[20:52:45] <skunkworks> http://imagebin.org/11079\
[20:52:47] <skunkworks> http://imagebin.org/11079
maybe so it lines up with the news divider if possible.
skunkworks: what's your resolution?
1280X1024 but that wasn't full screen.
949X727 was the ie size
[20:54:59] <alex_joni> http://imagebin.org/11080
that's how it looks for me
aligning the vert bar with the news divider would leave a lot of empty space..
yes the bar moves across the larger the window
it's placed at 40% of the width
[20:56:25] <fenn> http://fenn.dyndns.org/pub/irc/konqueror.png
custom css :P
yucky browser :P
but it looks surprisingly good :)
I just *love* the *feature* of IE to remove content when you resize it too small
it's "dynamic level of detail"
it saves pixels
yeah, well.. it sucks
this is full screen http://imagebin.org/11081
skunkworks: looks good to me
The only thing I don't 'like' (and no I cannot fix it myself) is the vertical bar on the left side of the 'welcome' title looks odd to me.. but I may be goofy in the head
hmm.. probably both
in narrow windows, the home page flows into the right column, but this doesnt happen on other pages
I think it might - it looks like it is crowding the welcome text to the right.
fenn: didn't understand that
i guess there is a minimum word wrap width, and it's larger for the first page on linuxcnc.org
bet it's because of the picture
does the same on basic install (which also has a pic)
ie does this :( http://imagebin.org/11082
not sure which is worse
fenn: how is the simulation coming?
ok, I'm about to head to bed.. shoud I leave this template? or the old one (fixed width)?
skunkworks: its about the same as yesterday, but has a nifty text overlay now
alex_joni: I would leave it and see if we get feedback..
but that is just me..
i've been building usb avr programmers today mostly
and i read "the little prince". its a lot better than i expected
skunkworks: feel free to try it out
go to configs/hexapod-sim/ and then do ../../scripts/emc minitetra.ini
* alex_joni finished another terry pratchett book
i tried reading the light fantastic but got too disgusted at the author's attempts to be clever to finish it
some are quite funny, if you don't try to take them too seriously
i had just finished 'ringworld' and expected something similar.. i think i got the authors confused
so.. a bit different from hard SF
good night all