jepler how did you come up with the list of words to use for the cross-reference index?
and a minor quirk; upper-case entries first is not the usual way to sort an index
fenn: point taken, but apparently xslt doesn't have an option to sort in a case-insensitive manner
might be easier to fix the indexes
hm -- "case-order has the value upper-first or lower-first; this applies when data-type="text", and specifies that upper-case letters should sort before lower-case letters or vice-versa respectively. For example, if lang="en", then A a B b are sorted with case-order="upper-first" and a A b B are sorted with case-order="lower-first". The default value is language dependent."
yet neither of those behaviors is the one I get ...
fenn: the lyx documents have always had "Idx" items in them, but the old HTML system didn't do anything with these (I think the pdf docs did have an end index)
we should fix our circles... I looked but it wasn't a quick change.
I fixed it 75% and quit, I don't recall what the trouble was
* alex_joni thinks we can do that post-2.2
so they default?
just as before
G2 I- J- should give a full circle since X,Y endpoints don't change
it lets you use the rule "only output words when they change" when generating the gcode
our circles are the exception to that
* skunkworks hates that.
oops doesn't sound good :)
I hate lazy post proccessors ;)
on that note..
I would really want a 2.2 branch
is it time?
I think there are things which make more sense to fix for 2.2
hmm.. config paths
(you know.. all the trouble before making packages)
then various places to change version strings
most of that isn't TRUNK-relevant anyways
all those changes should be on trunk and then we should branch the moment we make 2.2.0 release
well everything but VERSION maybe
VERSION on trunk should not say 2.2.0
version is in quite a few places
but everything for debs should be on trunk
ok.. then I'll try to make a preliminary package these days ;)
I think jepler tried it recently and it seemed ok
I suspect there are still things missing
for instance somebody dropped by and pointed out that mumble was missing in 'make install
but that's work that will benefit 2.2 and 2.3
alex_joni, is that supposed to be pci_read?
I thought it was usr/bin/pciread
but obviously you're right :/
* alex_joni tests this time
heh. I wouldn't have known if I hand't spent all last night using those two programs :)
debuild is running along nicely so far
SWPadnos: if I was looking for a green laser diode for astronomy use - what would you recomend?
cheap one off of ebay? :)
I wouldn't know what to recommend, since I have no idea what you'd use a green laser diode for relative to astronmy :)
mainly for pointing.
you can see it - you can point at stars and actually follow the beam up.
you'd need to wait a long time for the reflection to come back though ;)
ah - tyndall effect
yellow ones don't work at all
no, the eye isn't as sensitive to yellow
yeah, ebay or something is probably fine
you can't buy (in single quantity) a diode for less than you can get an assembled laser pointer
makes sense - thanks
I had an old yellow (650nm) that I put batteries in. at about 300ft it was the size of a soccorball. I popped it apart and the lense was adjustable. got it down as small as I could. supprised - looks good now.
green will be the most visible because that's where peak sensitivity of the (average) eye is
red is good since it doesn't destroy night vision
I went through this exercise when choosing a backlight color for a product. each color had an advantage :)
(yellow and black are the highest contrast pair, and blue has the highest resolution of the visible spectrum, in case you were wondering)
I actually thought our eyesite peaked at yellow though..
for some reason
I think green is closer to the middle of the rainbow :P
I will let you know http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250173553484
* alex_joni stares at xsl
alex_joni: uh oh, trying to fix something I did in the docs?
alex_joni: I just learned the language this weekend so I'm sure I programmed it like a complete "newb"
jepler: no, I was waiting for a click
but it didn't happen :)
eventually I looked away :P
* jepler is really confused now
oh, you mean waiting for it to start making sense?
here I am trying to figure out what xsl has to do with event handling
yeah, something like that
I can probably explain *what* each part of the .xsl files does but not how or why..
It's a bit like my first brush with perl: it's a tool that can clearly solve a wide range of problems, but I'll be damned if I can understand what all the //[@stuff] means
eXtremely Shitty Language?
really it's xslt I'm using to transform an XML document into an HTML document; the HTML document is styled with good old CSS for display in the browser.
* alex_joni heads to bed
good night all
jepler: before I leave, do you have something planned for 2.2.0 already?
alex_joni: should I?
I dunno where we are on polish & bug-fixing now..
I still haven't gotten back to testing stepconf
I think that's critical
I occasionally wonder about making a 2.2.0~pre packaged version so that it can reach people who don't want to compile, but want to test 2.2 features
despite being titular release manager I am not too interested in setting benchmarks or timetables
I think you won't have to do this alone, even if you are the titular ;)
I'll try to run the current pre-2.2 on my machine tomorrow (so far I ran it only in a VM)
but I think a page/document/wiki/list with todo's and bug's and still missing would be good
sure that sounds like a good idea to me too
though bugs on SF is fine too
yeah, but I think bugs on SF is for more serious stuff
these might be ideas about unfinished edges
like chris testing stepconf ;)
ok, off to bed now
I'll create a page then?
jepler: only if you feel like it
you/we can also use the TODO in CVS
I think that's a better choice (nothing to set up, people who are appropriate to edit it already have access, etc)
* cradek bewilderedly types "titular" into google
oh hey look at that
I didn't know that word, but now I do
huh, I assumed it's an english word too :)