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[03:12:35] <cradek> darn, I missed ray again 
    
[03:12:47] <jepler> looks like that's it for fest 
    
[03:12:55] <jepler> cradek: let's not stay at this hotel next year 
    
[03:13:26] <cradek> ok deal 
    
[03:13:47] <cradek> cool, sam youtubed us 
    
[03:14:40] <skunkworks> first one.. 
    
[03:14:44] <skunkworks> worked slick 
    
[03:15:15] <skunkworks> those where pretty big files to be posting everywhere :) 
    
[03:15:16] <cradek> that's fun - wish my machine could do it 
    
[03:15:23] <cradek> yeah that was a great idea 
    
[03:15:27] <cradek> is the second one there too? 
    
[03:15:34] <skunkworks> hasn't downloaded here yet 
    
[03:15:58] <skunkworks> 99% 
    
[03:15:58] <jepler> skunkworks: steve didn't seem too worried about his bandwidth limits .. I think it's in the terabytes per month range before it costs him 
    
[03:16:01] <cradek> heh if I'm going to sit there all year, we should at least make the page not refresh anymore 
    
[03:16:23] <cradek> cool, they do have sound 
    
[03:16:32] <skunkworks> if he doesn't mind - I will post both links then. 
    
[03:16:57] <skunkworks> youtube and the original 
    
[03:17:21] <Skullworks-PGAB> I can host stuff if needed too 
    
[03:17:27] <cradek> IthI bet that's great 
    
[03:17:44] <cradek> youtube makes it easy to watch/stream 
    
[03:19:22] <jepler> "       Check this box if you would like to add extra security to this computer." -- my browser 
    
[03:19:31] <Skullworks-PGAB> about 2 weeks for documentation to get caught up? 
    
[03:20:04] <Skullworks-PGAB> or is that going to wait for the 2.2 release? 
    
[03:25:47] <cradek> I see jepler updated the gcode quick ref already 
    
[03:25:54] <cradek> not sure about other more detailed docs 
    
[03:26:42] <jepler> I think all the new codes (rigid tapping, feed per rev and constant surface speed) have mentions in the development version of the manual 
    
[03:26:45] <skunkworks> crap - I will have to re-encode the video.  It will not allow you to upload a 100mb+ video 
    
[03:26:50] <jepler> that's online of course: 
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/ updated at least once a day when there are changes in cvs 
    
[03:27:32] <cradek> skunkworks: yuck 
    
[03:28:49] <Skullworks-PGAB> ugly 
    
[03:29:10] <skunkworks> oh well..  Project for another day. :) 
    
[03:31:00] <cradek> dangit my laptop keyboard is crapping out 
    
[03:32:52] <skunkworks> 100mb is the limit.  Is there an easy way in linux to re-encode video?  of the top of anyones head? 
    
[03:33:14] <cradek> mplayer --something --something-else 
    
[03:33:17] <cradek> or is it mencoder 
    
[03:33:48] <skunkworks> I will have to research it I guess.  Thanks :) 
    
[03:33:56] <cradek> sory 
    
[03:34:33] <skunkworks> did you spill something into the keyboard? 
    
[03:34:34] <skunkworks> ;) 
    
[03:34:43] <cradek> don't think I did 
    
[03:34:56] <cradek> it's just the control key (so far) 
    
[03:36:10] <cradek> maybe something like mencoder -vf scale=480:320 
    
[03:36:52] <cradek> I guess it'd be 480x360 to keep the AR 
    
[03:40:03] <cradek> -o newfile.mov  
    
[03:40:36] <cradek> you could mpeg encode it, but I bet that will work crappily because it's all jumpy 
    
[03:40:46] <cradek> oh wait, I'm thinking about the webcam 
    
[03:40:46] <skunkworks> mencoder -vf scale=480:320 -o newfile.mov? 
    
[03:41:01] <cradek> try it with 480:360 
    
[03:41:13] <skunkworks> right - but how do you specify the input file? 
    
[03:41:53] <skunkworks> * skunkworks is copying it to his keychain drive so he can reboot into ubuntu. 
    
[03:42:02] <cradek> after all that maybe 
    
[03:42:13] <cradek> I wish I had thought to grab them from john's computer 
    
[03:43:29] <skunkworks> ok - biab 
    
[03:43:33] <Skullworks-PGAB> I noted the spindle index seek was real slow for the tool change. 
    
[03:43:56] <cradek> yes the orient takes a while because of the gearbox backlash 
    
[03:44:34] <Skullworks-PGAB> thought it might be due to gearing and trying to make a fine move at slow motion 
    
[03:45:07] <cradek> it has to be right on, for the keys to line up 
    
[03:45:32] <cradek> it won't proceed until it's within a degree I think 
    
[03:45:41] <cradek> sometimes it takes some hunting 
    
[03:45:42] <skunkworks> never mind.  I won't have wireless in ubuntu.   
    
[03:45:54] <cradek> ah, darn 
    
[03:46:00] <skunkworks> tomorrow. 
    
[03:46:08] <cradek> ok thanks for doing it 
    
[03:46:24] <skunkworks> least I can do. 
    
[03:47:24] <cradek> that's a good way for a lot of people to see it 
    
[03:47:50] <skunkworks> Yes.  other than jymmmm - most people use youtube ;) 
    
[03:48:22] <skunkworks> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=309461#post309461 
    [03:50:30] <Skullworks-PGAB> tapping in a drill chuck... - you are forgiven since it was for R&D. 
    
[03:51:35] <skunkworks> they had very very limited tooling. 
    
[03:51:47] <Skullworks-PGAB> so I heard 
    
[03:52:02] <skunkworks> The ended up using cradek little lathe to make an adaptor to use a small ball end mill. 
    
[03:52:12] <Skullworks-PGAB> did they get into probing much, I know it was on the todo list? 
    
[03:52:35] <cradek> not except some discussions unfortunately 
    
[03:53:16] <cradek> I did write a simulated "object" hal component to probe though, so we can work on it without a real probe 
    
[03:54:15] <cradek> (it's a 1" radius virtual sphere at the origin) 
    
[03:54:34] <Skullworks-PGAB> Still CSS and tapping are major upgrades to EMC functionality. - One of the biggest holdouts for lathe CNC retrofits was threading. 
    
[03:55:39] <Skullworks-PGAB> BTW - you might also try the rigid tap in a lathe with something small like a #6-32 
    
[03:57:19] <cradek> I definitely would if my spindle reversed 
    
[03:57:30] <Skullworks-PGAB> I'm off for a bit - later all 
    
[03:57:35] <cradek> ... and I had a cnc tailstock (I could hack something on to the table though) 
    
[03:57:37] <cradek> goodnight 
    
[04:00:21] <skunkworks> so then - whats on the to do list for next year? ;) 
    
[04:00:31] <cradek> ha 
    
[04:00:42] <cradek> visit boris 
    
[04:00:54] <skunkworks> I can't think of anything more I would want.  Yet ;) 
    
[04:01:16] <cradek> yeah, who knows really 
    
[04:06:22] <skunkworks> boris reminds me of berry.  nothing really bothers him. 
    
[04:08:23] <skunkworks> fading - night. 
    
[21:51:49] <rayh> steves_logging, bookmark 
    
[21:52:21] <skunkworks> logger_dev: bookmark 
    
[21:52:21] <skunkworks> Just this once .. here's the log: 
http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emcdevel/2007-06-17.txt 
    [21:54:21] <skunkworks> Hi ray 
    
[22:00:51] <rayh> You back home already? 
    
[22:01:36] <rayh> Just reading back on the irc logs for stuff I missed. 
    
[22:05:42] <rayh> SWP is here.  Be back later. 
    
[22:11:52] <skunkworks> yes - back.. Have fun :) 
    
[22:58:13] <jepler> home! 
    
[22:58:21] <jepler> I think cradek and I have the shortest drive of anyone 
    
[23:18:15] <skunkworks> Ah - I beat you.. 
    
[23:18:23] <skunkworks> neener neener neener 
    
[23:18:31] <jepler> skunkworks: oh -- OK, second shortest drive 
    
[23:18:34] <skunkworks> ;) 
    
[23:18:48] <skunkworks> shortest drive of the emc developers.. 
    
[23:19:19] <skunkworks> no issues? 
    
[23:19:42] <jepler> skunkworks: on the drive?  None whatsoever 
    
[23:19:51] <jepler> got some $2.799 gas in des moines 
    
[23:19:55] <skunkworks> Great - non here going home. 
    
[23:20:00] <skunkworks> Yes - so did we. 
    
[23:20:50] <skunkworks> cheap gas that is.. 
    
[23:20:55] <skunkworks> 'cheap' 
    
[23:23:26] <DanielFalck> well, did you guys have fun at fest ? 
    
[23:23:35] <skunkworks> the encoders we picked up where 2540 line... wasn't till we where driving home that I figured out why that number seemed vaguely familiar ;) 
    
[23:24:06] <jepler> DanielFalck: yes, a blast 
    
[23:24:11] <jepler> didn't see enough of skunkworks though 
    
[23:24:17] <skunkworks> Aww shucks 
    
[23:25:12] <skunkworks> you only have to wait another year...