someone left the lights on.....
now what was the M code to turn off the building lights???
what's the link?
we went to dinner
SWPLinux is now known as SWPadnos
who's the two bearded guys
it lies... it's not 2006.
[01:48:44] <cradek> http://pastebin.ca/557656
did they swap the 2 mazaks?
or is the video reversed?
no - the video isn't reversed
(monitor is on the right side)
and they are back :)
skunkworks: the whole place is reorganized
skunkworks: you won't recognize it when you get here
ok.... is it Jeff or Chris with the pony tail?
jeff is closer to the camera
I'm closest, but most of the time all you see is the top of my head
good evening gentlemen.... I see you guys are hard at work
hah - good thing LCDs aren't readable from the side!
[03:32:29] <jepler> http://ask.metafilter.com/64463/Help-me-get-my-foot-out-of-my-mouth
you people are still there at the fest
while I've downed 2.5 pints, and am a little drunk.
don't talk to any co-workers then
who's the guy in the grey shirt??
and the blue shirt?
oh, they're going!
or atleast looking at the camera.
cradek has changed the topic to: http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml
ha, I get to spy on the lingerers now
yes ... watch out for the cunning lingerers
mostly I see fuzzy heads though
good pix this year
who is lfet there now?
I only see jmk and swp
it's nearly 1am, so I'm sure everyone else is gone
yea... I am 3 hours earlier and ready for bed here
I'm back at my room, but jmk and swp are still working
jepler did CSS today...
whoa.. cool :)
only a few fiddly things to work out still (gcode errors in certain cases, etc)
I see SWP looking very deeply in thoughts
yes he's furrowed
I am not
heh, get your own PC
* cradek grumbles at the wireless
is G95 something usual for CSS?
because G93,94,96 seems a bit odd for feed stuff
with 95 for CSS
I think he found that somewhere
I should look at rs274d in the book
unfortunately some controls use g92 for a lathe feed thing
Haas uses G96 for CSS, G97 to turn it off
same for Okuma it seems
if there's info missing on that wiki page would you add it?
[06:00:58] <alex_joni> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Lathe_Code
that's good news
I found it there
maybe he misread it or something
easy to change that stuff
[06:03:49] <alex_joni> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-code
shows G96/97 for Fanuc too
we are not already using 96 are we?
length per rev is g95, that's good
jepler thought it was g92
no, jepler planned to use G96 for FPR
I think swapping them will be best
wonder if anyone bothers if I do that
I agree it looks like he has them backwards
G93,G94,G95 for feed stuff
G96,G97 for CSS
I guess you didn't talk about axes/joints stuff yet?
what is 93?
oh 93 is inverse time - right
not one I use often
me neither, but that doesn't mean much :D
please do switch them if you want - I think he just made a mistake and got them backward
ok, I'll do that now :)
I also dusted off the rigidtap work we did before - it merged into trunk pretty easily. it's not working (moving) yet but all the messages and interp stuff is right
maybe I can make it work tomorrow
didn't see a commit yet
or you're waiting for it to work first?
waiting for it to not be totally broken :-)
I should probably go to bed...
probably, I think I finished swapping them
that was fast
did you see all the new bugs petev did?
he'll have to fix them if he did them
joke aside, seen the reports ;)
many in task I think
makes me sad
but you should go to bed, and I shouldn't think about rewriting task
at least not right now :)
odd things found by petev
I duno I found this someone might want it
[07:10:52] <Unit41> http://rapidshare.com/files/36456554/Stirling_and_hot_air_engines-LQRS.tar.gz
hmm.. some people in the emc room already
alex_joni: good morning
alex_joni: I've added g-codes for constant surface speed on the TRUNK, but the error handling is not good.
alex_joni: so I was wondering if you'd try to figure out what the errors are -- for instance, switching to CSS but not commanding a spindle speed
thanks for swapping around the cdoes to match other machines -- the numbers seemed odd to me that I used, but I thought it was what our wiki said.
if I suddenly stop talking, here's why: http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi-files/sandbox/great-hotel-wireless.png
jepler: I'll look at the error handling
although I suspect I need to read up on CSS first ;)
jepler: re wireless: ouch
alex_joni: someone said it was an error not to have an S-word on the same line as G96/G97 but I'm not sure whether that's right
I think that's right
because if you have no S-word in your program it won't move at all
or cause whatever strange things
jepler: wonder if it would help to tell the front desk about the wireless
* alex_joni sends cradek a proper wireless gizmo
send me some cat5 instead
cradek: it's worth a try but I hate talking to anyone about technical problems
fwiw I think it's gotten better since I went to sit in the chair nearest the door/hall
my "signal" bar stays high, even when it's not working, so I didn't think to try moving around
well, that and there's only one desklike area
jepler: the S-word is spindle speed as you coded it?
it seems some other controls use the S word in FPM (feet per minute)
steves_logging is now known as steve_stallings
alex_joni: yes, while CSS is enabled the S is in feet (or meters for metric) per minute
alex_joni: the D- number is the max spindle rate to "spin up" to
Morning guys, any last minute requests for unobtainium to bring to the fest?
steve_stallings: none from me
I don't think I have run into anything I'm missing yet either
alex_joni: I probably forgot to change the "update" methods for the NML message I added fields to...
OK, I will check the IRC window again just before I leave in about an hour.
steve_stallings: thank you, have a safe drive
jepler: we should get a spool of CDs today before we go in
cradek: yes thanks for thinking of it
I wonder where there's an office store .. there's a staples way up north I remember
I better get ready if I'm to make 9:00 (didn't wake up quite so early today)
emc is a tiny little app and it compiles so fast
jepler: you were right.. I added the missing update() calls
alex_joni: thanks much
no problems, adding the s-requirement now
we can later take it out if needed
again, thank you
again, no need to thank me.. I'm happy if you share some load
look for us in front of the festcam in about 90 minutes (just a guess)
nah that's just when I think we might start arriving
after breakfast, for which I'm quite hungry
despite all the snacking I did on the stuff swp brought
spindle override. should it apply while CSS is in effect?
I think so
OK -- it doesn't right now
jmk is awake, let's meet on time
if you go abouve 100% should it go above the D- number or stay capped at D?
I think it should stay capped
capped would be my bet too
steve_stallings is now known as steves_logging
so.. what's everyone working on?
alex_joni: about to commit feed-per-revolution
trying to get started burning CDs
cool.. got anything where I can help?
otherwise I'll start looking at those bugs petev mentioned
alex_joni: I don't have anything for you
Is the guy cradek is talking to the one from italy?
I think that's aramk, but I'm not sure
yes, it is
time to cnc some name badges on the mazak!
that reminds me
I think there are registration packets, which include nametags
1/2" steel flatbar?
I suppose we should go get them
must be painfull for SWPadnos to stay in that position for soo long
now that we have seen happy hands - lets see angry hands :)
alex_joni: next year maybe?
skunkworks: I keep hoping :P
You have been to the us before - haven't you?
nope, not yet
what is the farthest you have been from RO
and south italy/sicily (that was a 2500km drive)
skunkworks: I had a frappr map.. but it seems broken: http://www.frappr.com/alextravels
that is a neat idea . It does seem to be a bit broken
it used to work
the tags seem to be there - just not the map.
wow - its hopping at the fest now :)
hopefully no more camera dropouts, I modified the script to kill the framegrabber whenever it dies
hmm.. there are some bugs by petev I can't duplicate
the lathe must be at the end of the table :)
skunkworks: going this year?
Yes - leaving thursday
I am excited. Nice to get away
* alex_joni wants to stay home for a change
jeez... that many guys around the table. Machinery porn.
chris is showing off :P
I see that. I wonder if it is more people than last year.
I remember hearing that the nist lathe was a big hit
hey - you guys are not going to get any work done if you keep showing off the lathe.
we're not here to work -- are we?
skunkworks: besides, CSS and feed-per-rev are both already done
jepler: Is the lathe demoing the part you posting on the axis site?
skunkworks: now we are doing a demo that's about 1.3 inches long and has 4 different threads (radius and pitch)
skunkworks: something's not quite perfect with the thread depth and everyone is offering an opinion as to why
SWPadnos: ^^ URL for the script I use to build the kernel package
;) bunch of know it alls
if you've installed the nvidia-source and untarred it in /usr/src/ then it gets built too
jepler: noticed that one is missing from your blog
[21:16:56] <alex_joni> http://axis.unpy.net/files/01181319466/go-rtai-smp.sh
* alex_joni runs to bed
good night all
alex_joni: hm oops
alex_joni: see you
The guy between jepler and cradek seems tired. He was cought yawning a lot every 60 seconds. ;)
can anyone try the stuff petev is reporting?
it should be fairly fast..
alex_joni: you were going to bed!
I'll test at least the canned cycle thing
[21:22:56] <alex_joni> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1734309&group_id=6744&atid=106744
this intrigued me out of bed :P
I'm still not getting any errors
jepler: as a sideissue, when reconfiguring --enable-simulator, and recompiling I got this: www.pastebin.ca/559735
make clean takes care of it
but I still can't get the error petev is describing..
alex_joni: interesting -- I'll see if I can figure out why
it's not that important.. just thought I'll mention it
alex_joni: he's testing in tkemc and you're testing in axis. in axis, a file (the splash gcode) has already been opened
I'm guessing here..
however, it would be great if you could run sim_servo and see if you get an error on M2 or M30
no.. I tried sim_servo with tkemc too
hm forget my theory then
I tried directly going to MDI and issuing M30, no error
I tried opening a file in AUTO (like pete suggests), then aborting, then switching to MDI and issuing M30, no error
that's why I was wondering if any others see the error..
have you had any luck executing MDI commands in estop?
didn't try recently
but that shouldn't work
if your gcode doesn't do anything (for instance, you're at x0 and issue g0x0) you don't necessarily get an error
M30 works in MDI with estop
no errors :)
ah-ha.. was able to get the error
it happens only when I open flowsnake.ngc
if I open 3D_Chips.ngc, I don't get the error message
the difference is that one of them starts and ends in '%' (and gives the error message)
the other one ends in 'M2' and doesn't give the message
at least I know what to look for tomorrow :)
good night all
[23:06:52] <jepler> http://www.geekologie.com/2007/06/11/russian-windows-atm.jpg
cradek: how is it going so far?
Good - looks like a little lul in the traffic
I think people are leaving for the night - it's getting a little late (for daytime people)
maybe we'll get something accomplished soon :-)
sounds like you guys have done a bunch :)
well jeff has
I cut lots of threads - about an equal number are too big and too small, so they even out
it's hard to get a pitch diameter that's exactly right...
ah - so you mean - you need more experience cutting treads ;0
or setting tool offsets
I have only cut threads on a cnc once.
and that was an old cincinati malicron(sp)
lots of manual treading.. A pain.
yep, I'm very glad to not do that anymore
hope you guys are ok, it was 97 here outside Chicago, getting pretty smeggy.
the weather is perfect
except for the flies