Hello. Is there anyone out there that can help me with building EMC for Feisty Fawn?
the first step is building a realtime kernel for Feisty
Is there a website with instructions on how to do that?
building a RT kernel is a royal pain in the rear, which is one of the reasons we've not tried to keep up with the latest ubuntu - dapper is a "long term support" version of ubuntu
as for instructions... have you built a stock kernel before?
if you don't have one or two regular kernel builds under your belt, you don't want to tackle a RT patched one
I've never done a RT kernel, those who have say it took many tries to get it right
Which kernel is EMC running on?
we have a realtime patched version of the Dapper kernel
(and the Breezy one, but not many folks are using that anymore)
the dapper one is '2.5.16-magma'
I do have programming experience with Java, but nothing with C++.
neither of those has much to do with building kernels
OK. I guess that is because the kernel is written mostly in C and assembly?
I'm not sure what time it is where you are... the two guys who built our RT kernels are alex_joni (in Romania, will probalby pop in here in 4-6 hours from now) and cradek in midwest USA (probably asleep now, try in 8-12 hours)
in the meantime, you might want to google "building linux kernel" or similar
for much better descriptions than I can give you
OK, thanks. Would it be easier to re-install EMC/Ubuntu LTS and trying to upgrade GIMP, OO.org, etc. to versions that I use in Feisty?
I really don't know - I'm happily puttering along with dapper, and have no intention to upgrade, so I haven't investigated that
dapper = LTS
I don't know if our dapper kernel will work on a feisty system or not
I used a 2.6.20 kernel on a dapper system with no apparent issues (this wasn't a realtime system, just an ordinary computer)
Yeah, I haven't used Dapper for about a year. I guess that I am a bit of an early adopter :).
I'd recommend not doing anything drastic until you talk to either alex_joni or cradek (or post to the users mailing list)
it might be possible to use the RT patched dapper kernel under fiesty but I'm the wrong person to ask
Thanks for your help. I'm new to this channel, what do you all usually discuss?
whatever comes up ;-)
this is the developers channel, so sometimes its pretty quiet, other times a long discussion on some technical issue
there is also the user channel #emc, that has a wider range of topics
most of the folks who listen/lurk in this channel are in #emc as well
Got it. Thanks.
Where are you located, jm?
Where in OH? SC here.
eastern suburbs of cleveland
I grew up in MI near Traverse CIty.
cradek_ is now known as cradek
grumble, Alfred Smart wants to know if I've fixed his bug yet
(in private e-mail)
oh, I see he asked me about stuff in private email too
(one answer led to many more questions)
I can email you guys directly? I didn't know that. ;)
well it hasn't been shown to work yet
I don't mind email, but I don't like when people think they deserve individualized help, and they don't care if anyone else benefits from it (and especially if they think I'm a substitute for reading the wiki)
well, have you guys fixed his problem yet? huh? :)
I'm not sure we've had a bug report
yeah - I don';t know if I ever understood what his issue was
we should make a wiki page with our best (and maybe worst) bug reports
hmmm. I sense a page like this coming on: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Nihilism
but I'm actually serious
I have a 'favorite' in mind (but I'd have to look for it)
more of a "please do things this way" page
"and not this way"
people may really not understand what they can do to help get their bug fixed
I bet how a bug is reported is the best indicator of fix time
I suspect that lack of searching for the answer is also relaetd
ie, people get fast answers when the problem is known/fixed, and they haven't bothered to look for the answer
I was thinking just of actual bugs - but for things that aren't bugs, I bet you're right
umm.. That page comes up blank in IE
Or am I not getting the joke
I guess not :)
look up nihilism in a real encyclopedia ;)
[13:32:07] <SWPadnos> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:Satan_arrested_in_Jerry_Falwell_death
Ah ha. now it makes sense.
I initially thought it had something to do with the knights that say NI
jmkasunich: we're busy lately - must be near fest time