I might use it on my mill's machine if you get it working
although I'm not sure how/if we could make packages that work on both
heh, seems like our completely clueless chinese developer guy is still out there
"I know absolutely nothing about tcl, will someone please explain the several thousand lines of tcl in EMC for me"
SWPadnos: you home again?>
yep, for a week or so
just in time for the snow
how much do you have?
we've got a foot
no real accumulation,m but probably an inch or so so far
hmmm - that means we'll probably have the foot in a few days
I dunno - we didn't get a blizzard, we've had 3 days of slow steady snow
apparently there was a fair amount a few days ago, but it melted
I was just looking into travel plans for Fest this year
the Vista Lodge looks attractive, on a price basis
I'll probably stick with the econo lodge again
it's a little further fromthe railroad tracks at least
the vista is?
funny, I've never heard a train
[01:42:50] <SWPadnos> http://www.cnc-workshop.com/vista_lodge.htm
the econo is further from the tracks
this is the one he mentioned as under new ownership last year
$190 for the week including tax is a very good deal though
190 for the week sounds hard to beat
but it's further from Perkins, I think ;)
I never even saw the "continental breakfast" at the econo, dunno how it compares
I wonder how "the week" is defined for that deal
(to the VIsta, not to Perkins)
yeah, Iwas wondering the same thing
they have free wireless, apparently, so that's not an issue
the econo breakfast is a tiny table in the lobby, with a couple boxes of powdered sugar mini donuts and grocery store cookies (and some OJ)
ah, so it would be hard to not compete with that
I'll probaby drive saturday the 9th, and drive back Sunday the 17th
so I'll need 8 nights
yep. same here, I think
I bet the $190 deal is "night of monday the 11th thru night of Sat the 16th
6 days instead of 8
yeah, 6 or 7 probably
still, thats about $32 a night, instead of $46
but still, for 6 nights it's $32/night
sounds like its worth a call to see what the extra two days would cost
actually, the workshop is the 11-17, so getting there on the 10th is OK (rather than the 9th)
yeah, but I plan on helping setup
theres a lot to do - tables, power, networking, etc
ok, then the 9th sounds good :)
I think ray will be getting there even earlier - mid week maybe
wow - an actual hotel-like place: http://www.abvigal.com/index.html
hotel as opposed to motel you mean?
yeah - a little taller and looks a bit better kept up
taller does nothing for me
I could have sworn that I read their restaurant is open 24h/day, but I can't find that now
looks like the lowest rate (other than special discounts) is 350 for the 8 days I'd want
yeah - I saw a $280 rate, but it's some club thing
even AAA was $300+
still got your military ID? $280
heh - my hair is a bit longer now ;)
how about the AARP rate?
not enough gray yet
do you have a corporate card for your business?
I have a business card ...
"Corporate Rate - Business Card Required (B1KCOR)"
technically all that requires is a business card....
that's not a problem
I'm not sure if thats what they mean tho
they might mean "book on your business credit card"
its right on the public square,
the tracks run a couple blocks north of there
yep. probably some nicer surroundings than the Econo
the surroundings at the econo don't really bother me
yeah, you can't see them much in the dark ;)
the only night that might concern me a bit is the first, because much of my stuff might still be in the truck
you know, I think the main reason I picked the econo lodge the first time was because they were the only ones with a website (then)
econo lodge is gonna be $400 with tax
vista will be $190 + unknown for two more days, maybe another $100
yah, so $320-$350 isn't that much more - the accomodations may be worth it (or not, who knows)
the tall one would be $280 if they go for the "yeah, I got a business card" trick
that was $320
$280 was military
they had a $280 business one too
oh, didn't notice that one
there were three rates listed in each class
one was for a bigger room
the other two seemed to be the same room, dunno the difference
hmm, its only 9pm there...
* jmkasunich calls
"reailroad view" or "park view" ;)
the difference is 1 King or 2 double beds
B1K... or B2D...
yeah - found out yeas ago there's a difference between "ocean front" and "ocean view" rooms.
found that out on my honeymoon
oops, when I did the online rate, I only did 7 days
we were given a room (across the street from Waikiki beach) with two double beds, and a view of the plumbing supplies in the parking garage
when we pointed out that we were on our honeymoon, they gave us a nice room with one king bed, and a lanai that looked out over the ocean, the city, and if you craned your neck a little, diamondhead
muuuuuuch nicer :)
they have a weekly rate
ooh, very nice.
looks like 293 for the 8 days
I wonder if we can get a deal if we get most of us together at that place
"most of us" might be a problem
they have a few of the "one bed non-smoking" rooms available
more smoking rooms, and more two bed higher price ones
two beds are fine - one to sleep on and one for your junk^Wstuff
I'm sure that costs more tho
smoking rooms are a definite problem though
I'd take 13 beds before a smoking room
and I leave my junk at the shop
Id take no bed before a smoking room, in many cases
have therma-rest, will travel
not that I'd like it much ...
one of my goals is to be not far from the rest of the gang, so its easy to meet for breakfast, etc
that's a good plan
(although if I wind up doing late hours and sleeping in that might become irrelevant anyway)
being at the same hotel didn't seem to help much except for limited carpooling
we'll have N-1 cars again, which is plenty for about anything
yep. I also plan to not have as much stuff, so I'll probably have all 3 seats in the van
6 people, 7 if a few are skinny wnough
I thought your van was dead
it may be
6 people makes pushing it easier too ;)
carpooling isn't that much of an issue really - I for one want to be able to work late, so I need to take my wheels from hotel to shop
I still haven't decided whether I should be environmentally friendly or economically friendly
at mealtimes carpooling works, but that doesn't care where we are staying
the tall place has microwave and fridge... that could be handy
yeah, I noticed that
I had those last time, but I didn't use them
so some little projects may be easier in a hotel room - like soldering small boards
oh, I thought you guys might have - because of "non-conventional" diet
though there should be ample table space in the shop
nope we ate almost exclusively at that cafe (you were there)
it seems like the vista lodge and the tall place are price competitive, econo lodge is more
which was last year's?
I gather that the railroad tracks are right behind the Vista - the extra couple of blocks may be a very good thing
cradek: do you remember where that cafe was?
no but maybe I can find it online (that's how I found it before)
It might only be a few blocks from "central park"
ie, walking distance from the tall place
was it this one? http://qscafe.tripod.com/
hmm. I don't think so
[02:20:40] <cradek> http://www.discoverourtown.com/IL/local-173219.html
SWPadnos: might have been
3 blocks east of central park
that photo doesn't look right
the cornucopia is the one we went to
no, that's not the place
the other one looks worth checking out
yes it does
though that other one came up with a search for "galesburg vegetarian cafe"
[02:23:06] <SWPadnos> http://www.seminarystreet.com/dining/index.htm
that's the site I found before
I guess being 3 blocks from Seminary Street might be a good thing
if we all go to the same place, maybe we can call and beg for a nicer week price
not if we all want non-smoking and they only have 2 rooms available
that was my thought, but it seems there aren't all that many nonsmoking+cheap rooms available
* SWPadnos reserves a room
did you and jeff have two rooms, or would you want the two-bed larger room?
we had two
so you two, swp, and me, will probably us them up
don't think I'm up to sharing (and we also often like to keep different hours)
I see about 50 rooms? how can they only have 4 nonsmoking single rooms?
other reservations already made?
you're talking about http://www.abvigal.com/index.html
I'm not as worried about the price (just finished a week in San Jose at $204/night) - I can take one of the larger rooms
I'm game - I think I'll reserve tonight too
me too then
* jmkasunich calls
remind me what the days are?
June 11-17 are the workshop
I'm arriving sat 9 and leaving sun 17, 8 nights
is one of you on the phone with her?
nope - internet for me
what's value club?
can you get the weekely rate online?
I was just wondering about that
is anyone on the phone?
i like talking to a human
ok let us know what you find :-)
you can commit me too if it helps you get any kind of deal
yeah, same here (large or small room, but nonsmoking required)
yes nonsnoking required for me too
I see online that nonsmoking is a non-guaranteed "special request"
she says you should call to get the rate
wonder if there's an extra charge for internet - it doesn't say
usually no extra, but sometimes not all rates are displayed
"Standard guestroom including High Speed Internet Access, FREE local calls, Cable TV, Microwave, and refrigerator. Specify Smoking or Non."
ok, mine is done
293.74 for the 8 days
wonder if I should reserve one for jepler too
with or without tax?
that's a nice price
(237.30 for the week, plus one day at 49.95+tax
the total, and the weekly rate are with tax
the daily rate needs tax added, which she did
ok, that's a good rate
I think I'll be a day out of sync with you, but still 8 nights
no slipstreaming on the way back ;)
give her a call, get 'em while they're hot
cradek - you want to go next?
I did offer more people, she said the weekly rate is the lowest one they have
ok. let me know when you're done
wtf - my phone isn't working or something
silly, you have to hang up the modem first
"you must dial '1' before placing a long distance call" :)
did you call that 309 343 9161?
'your service has been temporarily interrupted' says my phone
answered by a real live human, who forwarded me to another real live human
for all calls, or just that number?
just that one
hmmm, well maybe I'll try ;)
wait, I'll try my cel
galesburg just got hit by a comet
yeah I'm assuming it's on my end...
"just that one"
SWP: from the about page: We feature FREE wireless internet to all rooms
I noticed that
I may get a wireles bridge to make it easier on Ubuntu
I found that all I do in the room is sleep, shower, etc
I have a crappy old (buggy) PCMCIA card that often doesn't work, especially when there's WEP (under Windows either)
heh - me too, usually
but it's nicer when you aren't actively driven from the room by critters or smells ...
oh, they have a resturant in-house too
might be handy for breakfasts
[02:47:35] <jmkasunich> http://www.abvigal.com/pbig2.html
yep. and it looks nice, actually
worthless room pic: http://www.abvigal.com/pbig3.html
"yup, its a bed alright"
and a nightstand!
silence from cradek must mean he got thru
I guess http://www.abvigal.com/pbig1.html
is one of the meeting rooms??
maybe "the" meeting room ;-)
sauna - nice
they do say "facilities", not "facility" ...
the cafe: http://image.maps.yahoo.com/overviewmap?OVMAPDATA=RaiQ3.R32XUVC1Q50AamSrPvEGTd9hd.9YCtw6tXQ.S2DwFxGL1HfCahZuniXTvCgDmxIKiaJHTkpo.T.tvLg8ugap89EuLnzyiWwzQdvvXWrlYw.ddAu06Qx0L.SQ--&ORG=y4B8VvMmhn3qAkxDD1A6.bjTHwi.aRzqHQoFJc70kKH4E2Aiz00cMUz39KPRrwZttES8Ytkc55c8AUCauaUnjeqV4iFDS.A1YrwbZUP7yX_5HFQo0h5g6ni6WQgXLUXQqQE-
that is a very long URL
its directions from hotel to cafe
all 4 blocks
it appears to have errors
I think the URL is longer than the walk
ie, Mozilla won't display it
3 blocks +/-
[02:54:25] <jmkasunich> http://image.maps.yahoo.com/overviewmap?OVMAPDATA=RaiQ3.R32XUVC1Q50AamSrPvEGTd9hd.9YCtw6tXQ.S2DwFxGL1HfCahZuniXTvCgDmxIKiaJHTkpo.T.tvLg8ugap89EuLnzyiWwzQdvvXWrlYw.ddAu06Qx0L.SQ--&ORG=y4B8VvMmhn3qAkxDD1A6.bjTHwi.aRzqHQoFJc70kKH4E2Aiz00cMUz39KPRrwZttES8Ytkc55c8AUCauaUnjeqV4iFDS.A1YrwbZUP7yX_5HFQo0h5g6ni6WQgXLUXQqQE-
yeah, thats the same one (just checking
hmmm - same problem here. lemme try FF
I pasted it into a new tab, it works fine (the second one is copied out of that tab)
nope - not in the Windows version
run ROT13 on the url to get the directions in plain text?
maybe yahoo ties the map images to the people who request them with a cookie
(that is just the map....)
SWPadnos: you're up
[02:55:59] <jmkasunich> http://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?newaddr=89+South+Seminary+Street&taddr=29+Public+Square%2C&csz=Galesburg%2C+IL+61401&country=us&tcsz=Galesburg%2C+IL+61401&tcountry=us&oerr=-3001
try rot-13 on that one ;-)
(its the actual directions page)
she said "I was waiting for you to call, hon"
yeah - same for me
heh, I named names
"you gettin' in on the 9'th?" :)
that was before I got my name out ;)
the funny thing is, I said "I have two last names, the first is wille, W-I-L-L-E"
and she repeats back "W-I-L-L-I-E"
maybe you ought to just change it
[03:02:33] <jmkasunich> http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=10&Z=15&X=3606&Y=22680&W=1&qs=%7cGalesburg%7cIl%7c
heh - I already did once, that's enough for me
I think its the building in the northeast quadrant
or answer to either (I used to answer to my brother's name too at family events)
(the tall one with the shadow)
jmkasunich: looks nice enough
heh, you can judge a hotel from the roof?
thats quite a skill
the area, smartass
hey btw do you have any objection to changing 'length' of the oneshot to a pin? dallur had to make that change in his tree for his project
no, go ahead
we've talked about changing all params to pins
it doesn't even break configs doe sit
I don't think so
you can't link to params, so there can't be any existing nets that would break
and setp still works
a setp will set an unconnected pin just like it sets a param
if somebody was using getp in a script or something (obscure) it would break
they'd need to attach a signal to the pin and use gets, sets
(or we would need to revise getp)
nobody is gonna be using getp on that particular param tho, it never changes
if the cornucopia gets old, there is a fancier place nearby that seems at least a little veggie friendly
[03:09:57] <jmkasunich> http://www.seminarystreet.com/landmark/index.htm
quiche, entree salads, etc
[03:10:41] <jmkasunich> http://www.seminarystreet.com/landmark/menupage1_2005.htm
I wanted to try the Landmark last year
but went to Perkins 17000 times instead
well, we are now gonna be 3 blocks from seminary st, and 30 from perkins
much better odds
have any of you guys paid roland yet?
It seems his site and mailing system is fscked
he says it's fixed, but I didn't go through the whole process today
the instructions are now to pay using PayPal, the account name is on the site
you don't need an account to pay thru pp, right?
yep, you do
I can pay for you
they need bank/CC info, so an account is needed
I'll call Cardinal tomorrow "sorry, I don't do pp, can I send you a check"
of course, that might get lost on someones desk....
they may take a CC directly, or take a check onsite from people they already know
[03:16:45] <cradek> http://www.cnc-workshop.com/attendees.htm
it says they take checks
I'll see what they say, if no joy, I might take cradek up on that offer
so $110 with a swap table
I must have skipped right over the check paragraph - I'm so used to electronic payment
you gonna have a swap table this year?
I don't know. I certainly don't want to take as much stuff as I had last year
I do have a bunch of nice little servos with 500-line encoders though
~120W DC servos
if either of you has only a few small items, there will be room on my table
ok. that sounds about right :)
I don't think I'm gonna really load up (but I will be bringing a decent pile)
my pile hasn't increased much in the last year (which is a good thing, overall)
to be honest, mine hasn't either
the quality of the trash at work seems to have declined
I think yours was bigger in the first place ;)
hmm, going on 11:30... I should go to bed. I was up till 4 the last two nights - I got over my mental roadblocks on the VHDL, and have been having fun
GHDK + GtkWave makes a nice and fast simulator setup
I paid up
I got permission from a few of hte instructors to give you guys copies of their presentations
I've got a makefile set up - about 10 seconds from editor save to viewing the simulation results on screen
including the ones on Verilog, VHDL, and a few that you won't want to look at on C++
so far I've been doing simple sims - first getting a one-shot timer to work right, then a single stepgen (uses 3 of the oneshots for steplen, dirhold, and dirsetup)
I now have a stepgen core that does step/dir, up/down, and quadrature
does the RTL viewer work under Linux?
and I think its noticibly smaller than peters
not sure, didn't mess with that
ok. that's what you'll want to look at
I haven't done the "single stepgen in an fpga" usage test yet
it gives you a diagram of the actual synthesized gates
ugly to look at (since the connections are made automatically), but looks very useful
when I did it for the oneshot, I found a simple change that took it from 13FF and 29LUT to 13FF and 13LUT
RTL viewer will show you exactly what logic is being generated
that would be handy
useful for small things, very confusing for medium or larger things
does it understand things like FPGA dedicated carry chains?
it isn't at that level - it's basically the logic level - as if you designed using gates and flipflops
before mapping / place+route
but at least you can see what it thinks you asked for :)
the trick for the oneshot was to re-order two stages of logic, so that the adder's carry output could be used to detect underflow, instead of a "foo = 0" that translates to a huge OR gate
you get a "borrow-out" or a "carry-out" - cool
what I did was use a N+1 bit adder (subtractor really) to subtract 1 from the N bit register value and make the new value
when bit N+1 becomes a 1, the new value will be -1, so the current value is zero, and I don't want to clock
since the FPGA has a dedicated clock enable, I just use bit N+1 to control it
and I get "count down to zero and stop" very cheaply
cool. no race conditions?
I suppose not, since the counter has to count before the clock is stopped
clock enable is synchronous
(the FF is always clocked, there is an internal mux that drives D' with either Q or D based on CE
(the CE mux is independent of the LUT, built into the FF)
ok - no races there then
so 13 LUT + 13 FF = 150 or so stepgens per chip, right? ;)
thats for a single 12 bit oneshot
each stepgen uses 3 of those
only 50 stepgens
but that means 48 LUTs saved per stepgen
well, as long as it's 36 or more, ther ecan still be one per pin pair
the stepgen also has a long accumulator, and a medium long rate register
[03:33:32] <jmkasunich> http://pastebin.ca/430621
[03:34:39] <jmkasunich> http://pastebin.ca/430622
right now that is the "core" of the stepgen
it expects to be given rate and the timing params as vectors
a complete stepgen needs registers so you can write that stuff from the PCI bus, and read the accum from the bus
that will be wrapped around the core
separating the bus interface from the core logic lets me test easier
and lets me instantiate just the core, connecting all the vectors and outputs to the 72 IO pins
for resource usage measurements, or non-PC based testing
(PC just provides power and a place for the board to sit)
hmmm. what's /= again?
is that !=
something just "clicked" over the last couple days, and suddenly I was getting VHDL much better than before
I'm almost certain its because of the rapid cycle with GHDL
great. I need to get myself a book, and actually sito down and try stuff
I've been blocking myself because I have the non-free versions of software, but I'm not sure yet how I should install them
XP64, Linux, or Linux/VMWare
these files (plus the "test bed" vhdl, will be going into CVS soon
I just want to let the structure settle a bit, so I don't wind up wanting to rename things or move them
you have a 100 MHz scope, right?
regardless of what non-free stuff you have, I strongly recommend getting GHDL and GtkWave
ko, I'll look at those
they're free, and the makefile (already committed) works with them
ok, can they place+route, or do they need the vendor tools for that?
and 10s later you are looking at the waveforms
oneshot_sim.vhd is the testbed
I wonder if that's multithreaded? ;)
1 min later you are looking at the FF and LUT usage
oneshot_syn.vhd instantiate one oneshot and connects it to the I/O pins
oneshot.vhd is the actual package
the makefile handles all dependencies too, once you start using oneshot in stepgen, and stepgen in foo, and foo in bar
obviously the _syn stuff uses the xilinx tools
ok - that's what I figured
the only company that doesn't do that is Synplicity (and Mentor, I guess)
they have their own synthesis tools?
synthesis is easy, place/route and resource mapping aren't
Altium has its own synthesis tool
I misuse the term synthesis to mean "go from vhdl to bitfile" (the whole process)
I suppose I shouldn't sound so knowledgeable though, I barely understand what the various stepsa re
I tend to do the same thing
but yes, Synplicity and Mentor do have their own tools, I believe
in fact, I think some vendors use Synplicity as their own tools
[03:46:22] <jmkasunich> http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cvs/emc2/src/hal/drivers/mesa_5i2x/5i20_vhdl/Makefile?annotate=1.4
take a quick look at that...
line 17 - vhdl to object file (using GHDL)
line 23 - multiple object files to simulator binary (GHDL)
31 - runs the binary, saves results in .ghw file
37 invokes viewer
each previous step is a prerequisite of the others, so when you ask for wave, it does whatever is needed to get up to date
if the sim results are newer than all the vhdl, it just loads them and displays
synthesis starts at 41
.t is a tag file, used to manage dependencies (since there are no .o files, its tricky to keep track of what is and isn't built)
51 - generates the prj file that tells XST what files are used in the design
58 - the scr file that tells XST what to do
70 - invokes NGC with the src and prj files - first stage of synthesis
interesting. I think the file list isn't needed unless some of the files aren't in the current directory
(the part the people actually call synth)
I think it is needed
apparently, synthesis takes high level code/diagrams and makes low level RTL ("Register Transfer Logic") code out of it
74 takes the synth report and snips out the part that lists LUTs and FFs and such
79 is a pre-mapping step
84 is mapping
89 is place, 93 is route, 98 is bitfile
again, previous steps are prerequisites for later steps
103 is gollum
should be .PRECIOUSSSS
so if you have placed but not routed, then you can say make foo-rt.ncd and it will pick up where it left off
105 and on is a maze of twisty little grep passages, all a alike (and possibly occupied by gollum, or maybe a grue)
hmmm. the FPGA loader can be used on non-RT systems
you can do that "the PC is just a powersupply" type of testing with any PC
it should be possible to make an exerciser program that runs in userspace as well (setuid maybe)
plug a 72 pin FPGA into your own board, and use it as a development system
as long as the tests you are doing don't require specific timing
sure - testing waveform generation and the like
I did sims where I made a point of changing the stepgen rate from positive to negative exactly one clock before, on, and one clock after, a step pulse, to make sure the hold and setup logic worked
that would be useful for me in that I wouldn't need to make a 64-bit SMP RTAI kernel before messing with it :)
can't test that any other way
hmmm. one clock before, on , and after each phase change would be good too
(phase change = dirhold expiry, dirsetup expiry ...)
basically any state transition
uh=oh - midnight coming up
it's pumpkin time
I think I'm gonna use some asserts in the testbed so it can test actual against expected results
testbed PC software?
right now, it generates a waveform plot
that's one thing to look out for - VHDL and Verilog both have a lot of language features that can't be synthesized
you can simulate very nicely, and then can't make the hardware
oneshot.vhd uses only synthesisable stuff
many give you compile-time errors, others don't
oneshot_sim.vhd is a wrapper for sim, and uses "wait 20 nS", etc to generate stimuli
cool. what's the base clock for the stepgens?
oneshot_syn.vhd is a wrapper for usage testing, etc, synthesizable stuff
hmmm. didn't petev mention that the PCI clock can vary by some rather disturbingly large margin?
dunno what to do about that
not that any other clock derived from that would be any better
large margin is a couple percent I think
yeah, it may be less even
3% would be 32 - 34 MHz
for the most part
he has a 50MHz crystal on the board, but using anything other than the PCI clock means that "rate" can change asynchronous to the stepgen clock - I'd need to pipeline it or something, lots more ffs
yeah, you'd need a second register (FF set) with PCI clocking
same for reading back the position
thats a LOT of FFs
32 for readback and 24 for rate out, I think (I'm using generics, so its scalable)
another approach might be to have a 33<->50 bus translator
actually, you should be able to AND the two clocks or something
just two sets of FFs
for the whole chip
anding clocks is a good way to get 1nS pulses sometimes
doesn't the PLX chip do some of this for us?
it is an interface between the PCI bus and a local bus
the local bus goes to the FPGA
but the local bus uses the PCI clock
I thought it had support for separate local bus and PCI clocks
the chip might
the board, not sure
the config loaded into the chip, no
right - something to check later :)
(noticed a hyphen/underscore issue) hal component has name charge_pump but pin prefix is charge-pump
charge_pump is a singleton, i suppose thats ok, so charge-pump.N wont happen
lerman_ is now known as lerman
tomp: that's correct.. all HAL pins should have hyphen in the names
.c naming however uses underscore (hyphen is not allowed in datanames)
alex_jone: ok, thanks, underscore become hyphens from now on in gEDA files
tomp: my IRC client didn't see any difference between the two :P
but I bet yours has tab completion too.. it might save you some typing
t<tab> = tomp
alex_joni: i had no idea tab worked here, thanks, it even adds the colon :)
tomp: it does :)
* alex_joni pings cradek
got a bitop biting here
bitopt or whatever that's called
I have no clue what you're talking about
../lib/libemchal.so.0: undefined reference to `test_bit'
../lib/libemchal.so.0: undefined reference to `set_bit'
../lib/libemchal.so.0: undefined reference to `clear_bit'
rtapi/rtai_ulapi.c: In function ‘rtapi_exit’:
rtapi/rtai_ulapi.c:202: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘test_bit’
is this new?
* cradek fishes for a full bug report
I just revived an older VMware machine
juve@juve-desktop:~/emc2$ uname -a
Linux juve-desktop 2.6.15-magma #1 Fri Jun 9 20:51:19 EEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
did you try make clean? I'm pretty sure trunk works
I did make clean
be sure to run configure
running it now
do you get ASM_BITOPS_H_USABLE?
I saw it in config.status
but not in config.h.. is it supposed to be there?
I'm not sure
it worked now
although I'm 100% positiv I did make clean before
did you run configure?
a couple times
Unexpected realtime delay: check dmesg for details.
(no sh*t) :D
1885236, 2032944, 1978369, 3379068, 569040 and now 2007216
what's new with you or emc?
it's been pretty quiet
I guess so
not much on the mailing lists
nobody's commented an any of my AXIS changes yet so they must be fine
just you wait
they're about 80% right I'm sure
SWPadnos__ is now known as SWPadnos
that's the way with all of my changes
cradek: I had always kinda thought that the tool table editor deserved a dedicated application or at least window
not a general-purpose text editor
but I don't want to make that tool table editor program :-P
yep I agree
we should also revive the nml messages that edit tool entries, and make emc write it
(if we're really going to do it right)
dinnertime here .. be back in a few days