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that is just fscked up.... among other things it wants to install cupsys-common...what the hell does that have to do with GTK?
..... I just realized why
remember - this is a 200MPz Pentium with 128M of RAM
in order to make it work at all we needed to do a text only install
so installing GTK means installing the entire Xserver
ain't gonna happen, sorry
the new VM based compile farm will be better
and on that note, /me shuts down to install another 512M of RAM ;-)
jmkasunich@ke-main-1006:/proc$ cat meminfo
MemTotal: 906536 kB
seems that should be a gig, not 900M
jmkasunich: just so that classicladder is tested on a system besides ubuntu ..
if it can't happen then so be it
I'm gonna set up a VM for BDI-4.50 one of these days, hopefully soon
of course, I need to revisit how I do farm stuff
at one time the default ubuntu kernel was limited to under some amount under 1 gig
I was thinking maybe that count didn't include kernel memory, or maybe it didn't include memory that was reserved for RTAI
but that was way back on 'hoary hedgehog' ...
(the one before breezy? not sure)
in 2006 a 1GB RAM limitation will affect a lot more systems than it did in 2004
I just got 512M for $39.95 (after rebate)
just got a 1G USB stick for $15.99
[17179570.612000] Memory: 498920k/514944k available (2115k kernel code, 15504k reserved, 595k data, 332k init, 0k highmem)
here's what this laptop says
I haven't looked at dmesg yet
[ 53.606110] Memory: 899616k/917504k available (1619k kernel code, 17268k reserved, 493k data, 220k init, 0k highmem)
that seems a bit low
I wonder why
this vm has 256M, dmesg reports 251140/262144K, proc/meminfo reports 256784
that's from /boot/config-*
I think that may mean you're limited to (somewhat less than) 1GB RAM
I ran memtest86 (very briefly) when I rebooted, and it reported the full 1G
yeah, that sounds plausible
ISTR a RTAI limitation
I'm running a RT kernel here
where is that config flag? I want to see if the non-rt breezy kernel has it
/boot/config-(your kernel version)
this is the stock ubuntu kernel
is this normal when installing emc2-axis to breezy for the first time:
Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-magma (cjr12) ...
Hmm. The package shipped with a symbolic link /lib/modules/2.6.12-magma/source
However, I can not read it: No such file or directory
Therefore, I am deleting /lib/modules/2.6.12-magma/source
yeah I think so
oh damn... I think I broke the VM
I had copied the VM disk image from my non-rt breezy install
that meant it had the same hostname as the other one
so I changed etc/hostname
then I rebooted (after installing the magma kernel)
now sudo doesn't work, because the old name is still in hosts
hit ESC to get the grub boot prompt and choose recovery mode
how is one _supposed_ do change the hostname on a box?
but then after that I'm not sure what you do
well, I can change /etc/hostname back to what it was at least
where's cradek when he's needed
does sudo -k / -K remove the outdated info?
I'll try it
grub didn't respond to esc
dunno if thats a VM pecularity or what
sudo: unable to lookup mybox via gethostbyname()
if that's the error, then the fix is to put an entry for your new hostname in /etc/hosts while in recovery mode
yes, thats the error
so I just have to figure out how to get into recovery mode
hit ESC at the grub boot prompt
it didn't go to the menu, just booted as if I didn't do anything
dunno if vmware filtered the esc or something
click inside the vmware window so it gets keypresses
otherwise they don't go to the VM they go to the vmware viewer application
and hit it 2 or 3 times for good measure
heh, that was the trick
hope the /etc/hosts thing works too
I suspect it will
cause the old name was in there, I can see how that would confuse things
I greped in /etc for the old name
it was in hosts, and in a few ssh keys
I will delete and regenerate the keys later
didn't see it anywhere else, so I bet this will work...
it seems happier
I wonder if I should make building on a 64-bit system (even sim) require a special configure flag, which notes that it's experimental and may not work properly
are you seeing many problems?
back to civilization swp?
I don't really see any with sim (on a 64-bit machine)
temporarily. we're leaving tomorrow night :)
I suspect that the whiner's latest report is on a 64-bit machine
at least this time we'll be in the US, so my phone will work, and we'll have semi-reliable internet access (vs. quasi-reliable)
oh really! that's a new twist.
hmmm - interesting
though I see that halvcp also works fine on my 64-bit system
Nov 17 11:27:38 localhost kernel: halvcp: segfault at 00002ad868280008
rip 00002ad86531d6ca rsp 00007fff458a5d80 error 6
this is the kind of message I've only seen on my 64-bit systems -- the addresses are way too big
he may be using an odd compiler too, last I knew he still used 2.9x for everything
"hal/halmodule.cc:430: error: invalid conversion from 'int (*)(PyObject*)'
to 'Py_ssize_t (*)(PyObject*)'
this is a change in python2.5 -- they made some changes to allow containers to have more than 2^31 items, but it's got some compatability problems at the source level.
I have NFC about the xgettext configure error but I'm sure it's another "weird version" problem
hmmm - I wonder if a realtively polite response to his email would help. something along the lines of "it lkooks like you're using a 64-bit system with python 2.5, have you tried XX and YY instead?"
and the standard "please provide us with the details of your system config ..."
I dunno, I'm in capable of writing such a response. I know he is perfectly capable of giving a good problem report (including disclosing that he's using this kind of a weird system) so I conclude he's just being an ass.
SWPadnos: in the past, polite responses only cause more rants
well, that's fine - it only serves to point out to those who don't realize he's being an ass, or it gives us the information
he's also capable of fixing some or all of these simple problems and sending patches, but it's clear his goal isn't to get them fixed.
well, to us at least
I can't believe he is such a good programmer for being 6 years old.
he's a smart guy but something has gone really wrong with him. maybe he's not healthy or something.
maybe one of these days he'll be back to the old paul.
when I tire of working on emc2, I hope I don't stick around and crap on everyone else
me too :)
that is - I hope you don't stick around to crap on people when you get tired of working on emc2 ;)
couldn't stay away, huh :)
Nope. Seems my ISP has decided the way to minimize bandwidth is to cut off any connection that had downloaded 500k
yeah - I'm sure your dial-up is a real bandwidth hog on their backbone connection :)
You bet. All those EMC2 updates.
it's the 27KBaud that gets them
just wait - without Net Neutrality, you'll need to pay more to prioritize that 3KBytes/second
I think I pay now cause folk see the dribble and decide it's not worth supporting.
Stuff like mapquest and such.
oh - you meant the small amount of data. (I thought you were drooling ;) )
I am. But just can't get there from this low spot.
the microwave guy promised me spring, but I don't think I can hit that tower either. Even though it's 1.5 miles away.
hmmm - where is he relative to your house? toward Crystal Falls?
err - where is the tower ... ?
It's east and north a bit.
Cell tower and I don't get cell here either.
Probably still need a 120 foot tower here.
oh, so kind of a bit further down the main road from Swante Aho road? (away from CF "downtown")
about a half mile north of Swante Aho.
I can see it from the ridge east of me.
ok, but not from your rooftop ...
Suppose I could 'doze a path through the woods.
well, for the shorter run, you can just lay some cable
standard ethernet can go 100M, and you can go further if you run through the calculations (ie, 200M should be OK for a single run to a switch)
and you can get fiber that goes kilometers
of course, if you don't own the land, there could be problems ;)
Might talk to the neighbor about a common access point.
yeah - you're kind of lucky in that there doesn't seem to be much interest from the phone/cable providers to run high speed connections to your area
that's the big risk for "neighborhood" projects - you spend a few $k for equipment, then the cable company comes in and nobody wants to pay their share any more
the cable guys tell me they need 10 customers per mile.
oh, well you have 10 miles per customer ...
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