my internet access will be spotty for the next week or so. see you guys around.
same here (hotel)
but only for a couple days
I hope yours is spotty because you are on vacation or otherwise having fun...
have a nice trip jepler
I do know he's going on a fun trip (not work)
'lo cradek, rayh
how's your lathe?
still haven't connected the encoder ;)
you must not need any threads cut.
been keeping busy with a math assignment thingy, a bunch of math stuff that's good to know before starting EE
I'll need them soon though
Lerneaen_Hydra: V=IR, now get to work on your encoder
it was more like simplify ln(x^3)/ln(1/x) :/
or something like that
I've also found a really nifty little linux handheld called a GP2X
I've been looking for my Palm M100 which I've apparently lost well this time
not as nice
nope. but will yours run for a month on 2 AAA batteries?
oh it's actually sold as a linux machine, slick
nice big devel community too
they've ported qtopia to it, and it has USB hos
so kb/mouse/usb mass storage, and later on all other standard devices
Resolution: Max 1920x1024 (hardware scaling for TFT screen)
what's the real screen resolution?
I'm not really sure what they mean
it's got TV out though
Battery Life: ~2 hours
that's not the life I'm seeing
around 6 hours light usage
3-4 when heavier
Battery Life: ~10 hours (info given by manufacturer: 2 x 2850mAh AA battery)
hmm I don't follow this
that's probably stretching it a bit. if they run it at 100mhz maybe
the clockspeed is adjustable
ah I see
100-266 mhz specced
oh, hi ray.. how are the lakes?
Nice these days. Fishing should get better now that cooler weather is the norm.
we had cooler weather, just starts to get warmer
it was around 20-25, now it's up to 35
That's about the upper limit of nice.
expecting 40 these days :(
Say I've got a problem with my dapper install.
It wants to complain when I start up the rtai kernel
what does it say?
A normal gdm startup dies
special graphics card?
startx gives me the error I posted on emc a bit ago.
nvidia but using vesa
* alex_joni didn't look
let me find it.
vesa? how come?
With 5.10 it would not run with the nv driver
This was an upgrade so it grabbed the old values.
should I try nv
I only see an email from JonE about spindle speed
This was on IRC a while ago.
"This program can not start until you start the dbus system"
* alex_joni looks up
durn.. I have no idea what dbus is..
I don't either
yet it seems to be running here
and x-session-manager seems to be using that
Your search - "This program can not start until you start the dbus system" - did not match any documents.
How do I see that?
I think it's some kind of messaging system for X
rayh: I did 'ps aux | grep dbus'
it says something about messagebus
perhaps I'd better step back and install from cd.
it looks like dbus is running here. got a pile of reply to your command.
seems like maybe dbus a gnome-related thing
rayh: I see some users reporting problems with dbus, but those went away after a hard reset (not simply Ctr-Alt-Backspace)
* alex_joni wouldn't quite see why..
rayh: does X crash completely?
no with gdm it returns to the login screen
tried any other login types?
with startx it complains but runs.
is there anything else in the syslog?
until you try to shut it down.
rayh: what then?
ah. gdm_auth_user_add Could not open cookie file.
sounds like a permission thingie
did you run any sudo's lately?
gdm_cleanup_children child 4220 crashed of signal 6
It does allow sudo
rayh: this is going to be a PITA to debug via irc
or in a terminal.
that might have been a wrong move 'sudo startx'
Yes it is worse since that box is not on line.
it might have created some files belonging to root, and now the normal user can't access them
I do have to boot with the recovery
rayh: anything important on that machine?
It did this crap the first time after install and reboot.
I can move what I want to keep.
could you try a fresh install?
then the kernel (no other updates if possible)
also> maybe you can come up with a hardware list of that PC: mobo, CPU, graphics card, etc
It was running well with ubuntu 5.10
then it would be best to install that again :)
it will be still supported for a couple of years
This was to be my test box for dapper.
I guess dapper fails?
I hate the thought of that.
rayh: you're the first I hear about
I think don't conclude that until you try a fresh install
and I'd want to know what's wrong.. but it's hard to understand that from here
fwiw, I haven't tried the update, but I've installed fresh on many machines
rayh: did you do a fresh install or an update?
update crapped on me too..
that was before the RT kernel
but other parts were falling apart
cradek: I still have it on another partition, got it to usefull.. but it's not like a fresh install
and I'm too lazy to start comparing hundreds of packages
apt is great for updating some packages or security fixes, I'm not sure I believe in using it to upgrade a distribution
rayh: do a fresh install, I'm now confident it will work OK
the biggest problem I see in apt is dependencies
it's the greatest help when installing new stuff
but the biggest problem when removing a package
because tons of stuff that was pulled in as a dependency stays installed
it's enough to install some software which pulls some deps in, then during dist-upgrade the software gets replaced, and new deps get pulled. but maybe one of the old deps doesn't have a replacement candidate.. they will stay installed
leading to all kinds of possible scenarios
Okay. It does take me a couple hours to download the kernel and such.
get them off a cd?
oh.. you can save the debs if you have downloaded them once
you might still have them in /var/cache/apt somewhere
Yes they are there.
dpkg -i can install them on the new system
I'd install only the kernel deb that way
the others are not that large
and can be pulled from the web :)
maybe rtai-.. too
cradek: what do you think?
Okay copied /var/cache/apt and will try to install from CD.
back in a bit.
Well the install went okay.
now to transfer the kernel
I'm back -- on the dapper box this time.
I'll have to wait and see what happens when the emc install completes.
I like what I see of it so far.
I also noticed gnome was a lot faster
and the install is *much* faster
like maybe a tenth the time to install on a slower machine
Right I saw that. It also starts and shuts down faster.