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[01:41:05] <skunkworks> I ran sims all day with alex_joni's kernel - no issues so far. (not actually running a machine)
[01:41:21] <SWPadnos> cool
[04:50:43] <SWPadnos> SWPadnos is now known as SWP_Away
[12:54:09] <SWP_Away> SWP_Away is now known as SWPadnos
[15:24:18] <jepler> I had a DSL service interruption, but cvs.linuxcnc.org should be available again.
[15:27:20] <alex_joni> jepler: works ok from here
[15:27:25] <alex_joni> webinterface actually
[18:04:08] <skunkworks> alex_joni: so far so good :)
[18:08:30] <skunkworks> plan is to take the computer home tonight and actually try it out (going to require a diffent video card)
[18:36:46] <alex_joni> nice
[19:52:45] <skunkworks> a generic ati card seems to have stopped the overruns :)
[19:52:52] <alex_joni> yay
[19:53:00] <alex_joni> skunkworks: still at work?
[19:53:27] <skunkworks> yes
[19:53:57] <skunkworks> for another 1.5 hours - needed a break
[19:54:22] <alex_joni> ok.. I stayed late at work today (about 9 pm), so now I'm pretty beat :)
[19:54:43] <skunkworks> wow - go home
[19:55:13] <alex_joni> no, I am home now :D
[19:55:19] <alex_joni> it's 11 pm ..
[19:55:28] <skunkworks> oh - never mind then :)
[20:00:21] <cradek> skunkworks: cool, we told you so
[20:01:44] <alex_joni> cradek: seems we actually have a clue :D
[20:01:53] <cradek> yeah sometimes
[20:03:15] <alex_joni> * alex_joni ponders..
[20:03:23] <alex_joni> should I give xubuntu a try?
[20:03:54] <SWPadnos> go for it, especially if you can figure out the damned menu entry issue
[20:04:18] <alex_joni> which one?
[20:04:18] <SWPadnos> it looks nice, but a bit more blue than the normal brown Gnome desktop :)
[20:04:37] <alex_joni> I kinda like gnome.. now that I used it for a while
[20:04:47] <SWPadnos> it seems that KDE needs a menu .desktop file, or emc2 ends up under lost+found
[20:04:51] <alex_joni> I absolutely hated gnome whiles ago
[20:05:13] <SWPadnos> I spent a bit of time trying to create a file in the correct format, and in the correct place, but I never got it to work
[20:05:13] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: if you figure out how it should look like we'll happily include it
[20:05:24] <SWPadnos> well - that was the problem ;)
[20:05:35] <alex_joni> this is with kubuntu?
[20:05:37] <SWPadnos> yes
[20:06:20] <SWPadnos> the documentation talks about a couple of methods of creating submenus and menu entries, but it isn't clear which is the "correct" one (the newer way)
[20:06:42] <alex_joni> which documentation?
[20:07:09] <cradek> if you find one that works with dapper, who cares if we'll have to do it again in some years
[20:07:45] <SWPadnos> looking at KDE help center, they tell you where the files are kept (but they may be wrong)
[20:07:53] <SWPadnos> freedesktop.org also has some info
[20:08:32] <SWPadnos> it's just hard to tell which is correct, and I'm not sure I ever had a file that was quite the right format (though I copied another menu file as a basis)
[20:09:53] <SWPadnos> ugh - gotta run for a bit (chores before the wife gets home :) )
[20:31:38] <skunkworks> ok - question :( - the default ati driver in ubuntu - is it closed source?
[20:31:54] <skunkworks> * skunkworks is looking at a locked up screen saver
[20:32:24] <skunkworks> I guessing I should have picked visa?
[20:32:34] <skunkworks> vesa
[20:32:51] <skunkworks> whatever
[20:33:11] <alex_joni> oopsy
[20:33:13] <alex_joni> :/
[20:33:42] <jepler> mastercard?
[20:33:54] <skunkworks> :)
[20:33:58] <alex_joni> there are some things money can't buy
[20:34:03] <alex_joni> like a locked up screen saver
[20:34:11] <alex_joni> for everything else there's vesa
[20:34:15] <jepler> skunkworks: in breezy, I think it installs an open source one by default, but there's a closed one available
[20:34:30] <skunkworks> hmm - so I may have other issues
[20:34:40] <cradek> don't feel bad, we all have issues
[20:34:44] <jepler> I've found the default one to be dodgy on my laptop (especially in apps that use textuers), but it works well enough for axis
[20:34:54] <skunkworks> I will try to reconfigure with the genaric vesa driver and see
[20:35:04] <cradek> yeah that's pretty sure to work
[20:36:26] <skunkworks> or turn the screen saver off - descisions descisions
[20:37:51] <alex_joni> hmm.. anyone ever udes index'es in lyx?
[20:38:08] <cradek> no
[20:38:17] <cradek> I've done TOC in plain latex but that's all
[20:38:24] <cradek> I didn't know it could do an index
[20:39:20] <skunkworks> alex_joni: - ah - I just noticed the splash screen is working with this card.
[20:39:50] <alex_joni> skunkworks: really?
[20:39:57] <alex_joni> then probably the card was busted :D
[20:40:05] <alex_joni> * alex_joni tries to get away from fixing that
[20:41:39] <alex_joni> cradek: indexes work easily..
[20:42:00] <alex_joni> when you write a document and decide some word is important (like AXIS :), you just put an index where the word appears
[20:42:24] <alex_joni> and then lyx creates a table at the end of the document usually, with a page numbers where those words appear
[20:42:24] <cradek> cool
[20:42:42] <alex_joni> but it seems it doesn't like spaces or _ or any strange chars
[20:42:49] <alex_joni> all need escaping..
[20:43:28] <cradek> I know _ is special in math mode
[20:43:37] <alex_joni> yeah, and space is just busted
[21:02:07] <skunkworks> blank screen saver seems to work ;)
[21:02:19] <jepler> blank is best
[21:04:00] <alex_joni> new EMC2 User Manual at:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/EMC2_User_Manual.pdf
[21:06:24] <alex_joni> I'm off.. bye
[21:06:30] <cradek> goodnight
[21:06:47] <skunkworks> night alex
[21:10:18] <skunkworks> why would latency max go up and down? wouldn't max be max?
[21:13:01] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.com/768394
[21:13:49] <skunkworks> remember this is dapperdrake
[21:14:30] <skunkworks> I guess overall max is what I want to look at
[21:14:44] <SWPadnos> it may be the max over that particular couple of second period
[21:16:56] <skunkworks> so the wiki should probably say 'ovl max' should be below your base period
[21:18:49] <cradek> I'm not sure how/whether "ovl max" is related to base period
[21:19:17] <skunkworks> ok - I think some one else mentioned that
[21:19:22] <skunkworks> sudo mkdir /dev/rtf; sudo mknod /dev/rtf/3 c 150 3;
[21:19:26] <skunkworks> sudo mkdir /dev/rtf; sudo mknod /dev/rtf3 c 150 3;
[21:19:35] <skunkworks> and the second one is correct?
[21:19:46] <cradek> no
[21:19:51] <cradek> the first one
[21:20:06] <cradek> it may be different for different builds of rtai, but the one we use uses /dev/rtf/3
[21:20:40] <skunkworks> really - I got an error running it the first time - it worked when I got rid of the /
[21:20:44] <skunkworks> hmm
[21:21:41] <cradek> I suspect you had a typo
[21:22:02] <skunkworks> copied and pasted it off the the wiki - I will try it again
[21:22:39] <cradek> you'll get an error now since they already exist.
[21:23:41] <skunkworks> but I can
[21:23:44] <skunkworks> oops
[21:24:01] <skunkworks> but I can't just run cd /usr/realtime*/testsuite/kern/latency; ./run by itself after a reboot
[21:24:25] <cradek> I don't think so, unless alex found a way to get udev to do what we want
[21:24:58] <skunkworks> so I have to run the above before the cd..... ./run
[21:25:02] <cradek> yes
[21:26:55] <SkunkworksD> http://pastebin.com/768446
[21:27:12] <SkunkworksD> that is why I got rid of the /
[21:28:26] <skunkworks> biab
[22:02:08] <skunkworks> logger_devel: bookmark
[22:02:08] <skunkworks> See
http://81.196.65.201/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emcdevel/2006-06-08#T22-02-08
[23:35:28] <jmkasunich> cradek?