#osm-ru | Logs for 2014-10-17

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[00:00:01] <freeExec> и будет у нас как с нефтепроводами, ну где-то там проходит
[00:00:06] <Hind> всем собирать авиатреки посоны
[00:00:21] <CGI561> Ежели увязать как-то тегирование с RDF, получить более семантическую систему, конвергенцию с wikidata, то и релейшн для Васи станет не актуальным )
[00:00:21] <dkiselev> ОК, я в авиатерминологии не силен. Но вот та штуковина которая по радиомаякам - онаж в авиации постоянная
[00:00:35] <edward17> Глиссада?
[00:00:37] <andrewsh> RDF нинужен.
[00:00:55] <muz1kand> а gps в самолете включать после взлета?)
[00:01:02] <Hind> да, Зкир кажется решил дать шанс
[00:01:04] <unnicked790> Авиатреков довольно много. Из-за высокой скорости самолета они только не соединяються в трек и рисуються отдельными точками.
[00:01:11] <Hind> или dkiselev?
[00:01:17] <andrewsh> muz1kand: лучше до посадки в кабину :)
[00:01:28] <edward17> А в самолёте можно включать GPS?
[00:01:34] <dkiselev> Технически - Зкир
[00:01:37] <andrewsh> почему нельзя?
[00:01:43] <dkiselev> Он на кнопку жал :)
[00:01:50] <andrewsh> edward17: открытие века: можно и мобильник даже
[00:01:51] <muz1kand> andrewsh: а как же просьба о выключении всех устройств?)
[00:01:57] <andrewsh> и что?
[00:01:59] <edward17> Да да
[00:02:05] <freeExec> это только на взлете/посадке
[00:02:10] <edward17> Ну типа низзя и всё такое
[00:02:10] <andrewsh> edward17: а как же авиарейсы, на которых работает мобильная связь? :)
[00:02:23] <andrewsh> edward17: это просто лишняя предосторожность
[00:02:23] <muz1kand> так у меня вопрос именно про взлет и посадку)
[00:02:31] <andrewsh> в реальности пофиг
[00:02:36] <edward17> А, ну ладно
[00:02:40] <andrewsh> тем более, GPS работает только на приём
[00:02:59] <Hind> edward17: GPS — это приёмник
[00:03:21] <dkiselev> Все отрицай, ничего не подписывай
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[00:03:53] <andrewsh> Hind: We kindly ask you to please switch off all electronic devices and keep them turned off during take-off and landing. Thank you.
[00:03:58] <muz1kand> andrewsh: стюардессам это пофиг, оно вносит искажения в оборудование самолета :))
[00:04:06] <andrewsh> muz1kand: нет, это неправда.
[00:04:18] <andrewsh> как раз стюардессам-то и не пофиг
[00:04:21] <muz1kand> andrewsh: Да я то это знаю)
[00:04:24] <andrewsh> а оборудованию плевать :)
[00:04:31] <dkiselev> Оно вносит помехи в работу внутренних систем проводниц
[00:04:34] <unnicked790> d1g ещё приходи, если сегодня не всё успел рассказать.
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[00:04:37] <Hind> А от меня однажды отстали после того, как я сказал, что это приемник. А сейчас они вообще понимающие.
[00:04:43] <andrewsh> muz1kand: т.е. я теоретически могу представить,
[00:05:12] <andrewsh> что 100 телефонов, одновременно пытающихся сделать хэндовер, реаттач, детач и ещё что-то,
[00:05:25] <Hind> Котам слава!
[00:05:27] <dkiselev> Пока пока
[00:05:32] <andrewsh> генерят одновременно такую помеху, ТАКУЮ ПОМЕХУ, что всем становится тошно
[00:05:33] <Hind> клики
[00:05:38] <andrewsh> но это маловероятно :)
[00:06:05] <freeExec> :)
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[00:06:15] <dkiselev> Мне показалось или музычки сегодня небыло?
[00:06:22] <freeExec> в начале была
[00:06:24] <Hind> она затихла в какой-то момент
[00:06:26] <andrewsh> ой. у вас же радио
[00:06:27] <Hind> видимо, Илья убрал
[00:06:28] <andrewsh> а я и забыл
[00:06:32] <Hind> чтобы было слышно Никиту
[00:07:06] <freeExec> отберите у него воздух
[00:07:13] <Hind> Лучше всех слышно Котяру, то ли иначе в микрофон говорит, то ли юзает компрессию
[00:07:18] <muz1kand> Не дышите в трубку :) Я знаю это вы)
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[00:07:41] <andrewsh> Hind: компресснутый котяра :)
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[00:08:57] <muz1kand> Спасибо за эфир
[00:09:11] <CGI561> Спасибо, было интересно!
[00:09:46] <shurik> 500 _скачивают_ в записи
[00:10:01] <Zverik_home> скачивают 1000
[00:10:12] <Zverik_home> спасибо, что слушали :)
[00:10:34] <Komzzzpa> у меня в этот раз микрофон опять предоставлен компанией HTC
[00:10:39] <edward17> Спасибо, что говорили!
[00:10:41] <freeExec> эх я не успел ещё перевести плагин для кугиса, вы рано закончили
[00:10:42] <edward17> Пока!
[00:10:47] <Zverik_home> Komzzzpa: но слышно тебя было хорошо
[00:11:10] <Hind> А я сегодня видел настоящего живого зверика
[00:11:18] <edward17> Где?
[00:11:19] <Hind> а он уже там. до чего техника дошла
[00:11:23] <Komzzzpa> Hind: ты врёшь, он в питере живёт
[00:11:41] <kido> и снова здавствуйте
[00:11:56] <Zverik_home> да, я сначала думал взять билеты на поезд в час ночи, и провести эфир из москвы
[00:12:29] <freeExec> с Красной площади
[00:12:51] <CGI561> Зверик, давно уже был предложен перевод osm-tasking-manager2 и HOT Exports, и некому его проверить...
[00:12:51] <freeExec> и брать интерьвю у туристов
[00:12:55] <Zverik_home> ага, меня бы забрали на 15-й минуте, где что-то про правительство было
[00:13:03] <kido> лол я думал Зверик поздоровался с нами, а это запись радио по второму кругу пошла))
[00:13:50] <Hind> :D
[00:13:54] <kido> Зверик, а как тот трек 8битный называется, что на фоне в радио?
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[00:15:15] <Zverik_home> kido: http://promodj.com/r-type/tracks/1261038/DJ_R_Type_KLAV_to_R_TYPE
[00:15:27] <Zverik_home> надо бы заменить, но руки не доходят
[00:16:01] <kido> не не этот
[00:16:12] <kido> другой вроде был, не сегодня
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[00:19:57] <Zverik_home> да не, тот же. Проверь прошлонедельную запись, я ничего не менял в настройках
[00:20:34] <muz1kand> трек тот, все верно
[00:20:55] <muz1kand> с 30 секунды врубить если
[00:21:20] <kido> я помню тебе в чатике ещё до выпуска писал что играет какойто отстой, и просил врубить 8бит, ты врубал вроде не этот
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[00:25:37] <kido> вот это лол https://vk.com/roskomnadzor_official
[00:27:29] <freeExec> а подписчиков то 2948, видимо кикают излишки :)
[00:28:07] <Zverik_home> kido: я ссылку давал, в логах чатика за прошлую неделю посмотри
[00:30:31] <muz1kand> видимо трек 12 отсюда - http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Various_Artists_Kazoomzoom/Party_in_Space/
[00:31:57] <muz1kand> а хотя хз, там их несколько
[00:32:12] <kido> какда вроде оно, спасибо
[00:33:32] <MaximD|n> Идет кто из московских осмеров на ММБ?
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[00:38:43] <vvoovv> что такое ммб?
[00:41:53] <MaximD|n_> http://mmb.progressor.ru/
[00:42:05] <MaximD|n_> Московский Марш-бросок
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[01:36:34] <Zverik_home> radio.osmz.ru/all/16-oktyabrya-d1g/
[01:36:50] <Zverik_home> хм, пропал протокол: http://radio.osmz.ru/all/16-oktyabrya-d1g/
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[11:27:06] <mloony> День добрый
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[11:52:00] <freeExec> хай
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[12:05:57] <andrewsh> Zverik_home: у Скиннера всё же необычный очень голос.
[12:06:22] <andrewsh> причём когда слушаешь его на радио, воспринимается сшенно иначе, чем на видео
[12:06:55] * andrewsh слушает Frank Skinner's show on Absolute Radio
[12:06:58] <andrewsh> от 11 октября/
[12:07:11] <andrewsh> Frank внезапно прерывается и орёт на всю студию:
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[12:08:13] <andrewsh> I'M ON DOCTOR WHO!
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[12:39:51] <Komzpa|work> а может, уберём уже с openstreetmap.ru автоспутник с покетгисом?
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[12:55:45] <freeExec> Komzpa|work: ну если ссылки битые, то однозначно убирать
[12:56:49] <Komzpa|work> автоспутник - 11 год
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[12:57:05] <Komzpa|work> гисрусса 12 год
[12:58:03] <freeExec> печально, думаю всё что умерло в до 14 года - в корзину
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[13:04:06] <Hind> Кстати. maps.me имеет шанс стать гисруссой для современных платформ. (в хорошем смысле)
[13:04:16] <Hind> Векторные карты есть, поиск есть, роутинг скоро будет
[13:04:59] <Hind> Ещё бы панель датчиков настраиваемую.
[13:05:40] <Hind> Осталось только позволить собирать карты пользователям.
[13:05:50] <Hind> И стили!111
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[13:11:05] <andrewsh> а сколько ещё лет роутинг будет пилиться-то?
[13:11:41] <Komzpa|work> он уже работает
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[13:17:25] <Hind> Komzpa|work: зафорси там поддержку стилей, вроде несложная задача.
[13:17:46] <Hind> Мне хватит параметров цветов и толщин заливок и обводок.
[13:18:39] <Komzpa|work> Hind: так лежит же в паблике конвертер стилей
[13:18:43] <Hind> шта
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[13:18:48] <Hind> ссылку )
[13:18:58] <Komzpa|work> komap.py -r mapswithme
[13:19:02] <Hind> ох
[13:19:20] <Hind> он жеж для мапника, я и подумать не мог :3
[13:19:43] <Komzpa|work> он мапцсс-процессор
[13:19:54] <Hind> а что получится на выходе и куда это класть? :3
[13:20:07] <Komzpa|work> получится котолог, класть внутрь apk
[13:20:15] <Hind> а на ios?
[13:20:30] <Hind> устройство джейлбрейкнутое.. ну ладно, я покопаюсь в ресурсах .app
[13:20:51] <Komzpa|work> можешь помучать разрабов, впилить втаскивание стиля из /data не так сложно
[13:20:58] <Hind> Komzpa|work: спасибо :3
[13:21:15] <Komzpa|work> с тебя инструкция
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[13:22:32] <Hind> ох, там все иконки свалены в app
[13:22:43] <Hind> ну ладно, главное, я понял, куда класть
[13:23:12] <Hind> Наверное, проще всего будет написать скрипт, который будет по ssh все закидывать куда надо на айфончик
[13:23:26] <Hind> и выпиливать ненужные от прошлого стиля.
[13:24:33] <Hind> О, у меня как раз есть стиль гисруссы на mapcss
[13:24:55] <Hind> Komzpa|work: а mwm умеет заливку узорчиками?
[13:25:13] <Komzpa|work> Hind: нет
[13:25:19] <Hind> :|
[13:25:23] <Komzpa|work> Hind: и обводку полигонов не умеет
[13:25:30] <Hind> но как же так
[13:25:32] <Hind> ну ладно
[13:25:42] <Komzpa|work> зато gl-быстро!
[13:25:51] <Hind> как будто gl не может в текстуры :3
[13:26:47] <Hind> не, я ничего не говорю, очень клево все
[13:27:38] <Komzpa|work> Hind: эта штука долго висела в вишлисте
[13:28:21] <Hind> Komzpa|work: то есть её оттуда выпилили (раз «висеЛА» и не реализовали)?
[13:28:37] <Komzpa|work> Hind: теперь я не могу смотреть в вишлист :3
[13:28:42] <Hind> :3
[13:29:15] <Hind> NDA cat is so NDA.
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[16:35:56] <andrewsh> Zverik_home: https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10711082_293209974204255_6944100121808178073_n.jpg?oh=2e504840df3b4794c605ac48e24c063a&oe=54AADCE1
[16:36:03] <kl> русские есть?
[16:36:45] <andrewsh> нет
[16:37:05] <kl> здорово, Вы ставили osm как локальный сервер?
[16:38:07] <gryphon> эммм... switch2osm.org?
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[16:51:23] <Scondo> kl: а можно несколько уточнить задачу? Что именно ставить? Рендер? Сайт? Базу?
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[17:13:32] <andrewsh> https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10593231_864267606928491_6309870179226271985_n.jpg?oh=4ced860d3b41fccfdd4e65bcc40415ff&oe=54BE9A09
[17:20:11] <kl> извините за долгий ответ, смотрите какая ситуация...сейчас установлен pgsql+postgis+mod_tile+render как модуль apache+osm2pgsql+openlayers
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[17:22:00] <kl> layer) нужно будет делать и как то вытаскивать пути из основной карты
[17:22:56] <kl> в некоторых статьях написано о необходимости установки rubby on rails, хотелось бы узнать его преимущества по сравнению с openlayer,
[17:23:49] <kl> нужен он вообще в качестве api? или openlayer-а достаточно на java-script?
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[17:38:11] <Zverik_home> andrewsh: ну это уже совсем баян, да ещё и с вырезанным источником http://shtosm.ru/2011/07/06/1/
[17:42:56] <andrewsh> чочо
[17:43:16] <andrewsh> кому баян, а кому и BREAKING NEWS
[17:43:22] <andrewsh> BREAKING MEWS
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[20:44:48] <shurik> Komzpa*: на днях же давали ссылку где карты покетгис http://boltomerka.ru/pgsmaps.php
[20:48:35] <Komzzzpa> shurik: и что, она на openstreetmap.ru?
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[21:19:52] <shurik> Komzzzpa: нет, но это значит, что лучше исправить, а не удалить
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