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[09:20:20] <freeExec> у кого есть под рукой картинка с яндекса вроде как макпить 3д здания со стилабатами прочии штатными конструкциями
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[09:25:04] <Zverik_home> freeExec:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5503/51351719.0/0_6f919_8ec92dbf_XXL.gif
[09:25:59] <freeExec> ага спасибо
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[10:03:24] <Junglist> Добрый день! А можно ли в JOSM подключить слой с тайлами GPS-треков, как в iD, чтоб не тыщи точек грузить, а сразу красиво, быстро и удобно?
[10:04:31] <freeExec> да он вроде так и называется osm trackers
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[10:10:10] <Junglist> Бинго. Спасибо!
[10:23:23] <psha> Junglist: не бинго, а osm trackers
[10:24:27] <Junglist> :-)
[10:25:17] <Junglist> у меня это называлось «GPS-треки OpenStreetMap» если уж быть точным
[10:26:08] <Junglist> а какой JOSM расово верный, русифицированный или английский? К какому лучше привыкать?
[10:27:06] <psha> ну вроде как josm не какое-то проприетарное г-но, поэтому перевод там достаточно адекватный
[10:27:19] <psha> косяки наверно есть но в общем всё очень неплохо
[10:29:03] <psha> собственно как в практически любом опенсорсе, либо перевода нет вообще либо он достаточно годен чтоб им пользоваться
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[10:36:40] <Junglist> а power=substation нормально рендерится сейчас?
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[10:37:18] <Junglist> я вчера в районе Камской ГЭС чуть поправил, а оно исчезло
[10:37:20] <Junglist> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/58.1116/56.3393
[10:39:07] <freeExec> нормально :)
http://openstreetmap.ru/#map=16/58.1116/56.3393&layer=S
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[15:05:27] <Zverik> «Выход есть: создать на уровне государства свою инфраструктуру OSM со всеми положенными атрибутами: регламентами, ответственными и так далее»
[15:08:07] <Maks|2ssd> любые структуры с регламентами и правилами создаются только для того, что бы обозначить ответсвенных и по сути создать ситуацию для быстрого нахождения виновных
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[15:08:32] <Maks|2ssd> инструкции и правила не пишутся для решения проблем, они пишутся для обозначения степени вины и причастности к вине
[15:09:51] <Zverik> это понятно, ответственные — хорошо, интересна идея про создание государственного зеркала OSM
[15:10:26] <freeExec> это же не возможно синхронизировать
[15:10:44] <old_Bibigon> Zverik, форка, который фиг в обратку засинхронишь :(
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[15:11:40] <freeExec> и каких ответственных надо для осм ?
[15:16:43] <Runge> freeExec: ты как то спрашивал про сохранение карты в векторе из мапсерфера?
[15:16:48] <Runge> или не ты
[15:17:11] <freeExec> нет, не я
[15:17:19] <freeExec> а что стало возможно ?
[15:17:29] <Runge> ну будет. почти доделал )
[15:17:35] <freeExec> в svg ?
[15:17:43] <Runge> svg, eps, pdf, ps
[15:17:55] <freeExec> во pdf это тема
[15:18:18] <freeExec> тогда печать можно не реализовывать :)
[15:28:31] <Zverik> офигенно, сделай вкладку «экспорт» :)
[15:28:59] <Runge> где?
[15:29:55] <Zverik> на сайте мапсёрфера
[15:30:32] <Runge> аа. можно попробовать.
[15:34:35] <andrewsh> а svg будет честный, или как в мапнике?
[15:34:48] <Runge> а что в мапнике не так?
[15:35:50] <andrewsh> ну ты его svg открывал? :)
[15:36:01] <Runge> нет.
[15:36:19] <andrewsh> ну там страх и ужос
[15:36:37] <andrewsh> наслоения тысяч кружочков, линий, буковки в виде кривых
[15:36:40] <andrewsh> и всё такое
[15:36:53] <andrewsh> редактировать невозможно потом
[15:37:03] <andrewsh> перекрасить — близко к нереалистичному
[15:37:14] <Runge> ну наверное будет такой же, поскольку я использую cairo.
[15:40:43] <Zverik> andrewsh: я карту в буклет sotm baltics делал мапником. Потом двигал буквы и удалял лишнее, всё ок. Но там очень простой стиль :)
[15:41:31] <Runge> а зачем буквы двигать?
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[15:42:58] <Zverik> удалить дубликат надписи, например
[15:43:07] <Zverik> а оставшуюся передвинуть в центр
[15:43:58] <Runge> ясно
[15:45:38] <Zverik> я всё ещё поражаюсь НЯК-овцам. Два дня прошло — никто не раскопал штосмовскую заметку. А кто нашёл — видимо, посчитали её пропагандой, замалчивают и стараются забыть
[15:47:16] <freeExec> ну вроде двое отписывались там в заметке или ты ошидал хабрэффект
[15:49:27] <Maks|2ssd> в SVG экспорт делается не для редактирования, а для препринта и подготовки к публикации в разных изтательских системах
[15:49:29] <Zverik> я ожидал хотя бы одно упоминание в клубе няк :)
[15:50:05] <Maks|2ssd> если нужно редактирование, то это не мапником делается, а средствами GIS, послойно с выгрузкой библиотеки стилей и форм
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[15:54:22] <freeExec> ну вот форум до 500 перетрудился
[15:55:50] <Maks|2ssd> о, лего из домиков на карте
[15:57:37] <andrewsh> НЯК-овцы можно двояко прочитать
[15:58:31] <Maks|2ssd> http://openstreetmap.ru/#map=15/52.7955/27.5259&layer=K
[15:59:10] <Maks|2ssd> там ещё два вокзала, один железнодорожный вокзал «Солигорск» и второй железнодорожный вокзал «железнодорожный вокзал»
[16:01:22] <Maks|2ssd> покупаешь билет, например от «Тюмень» до «железнодорожный вокзал»
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[18:09:40] <freeExec> теперь то я понял откуда это гососм
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[22:44:03] <ErshKUS> а в Питере есть адресация номеров домов по подъездам, как в Калиинграде?
[22:47:24] <ErshKUS> т.е. когда у каждого подъезда адрес вида: п1 - улица Пупкина, д.5; п2 - улица Пупкина, д.7; и т.д.
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[23:14:22] <andrewsh> а должна быть?
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[23:17:46] <ErshKUS> andrewsh: я хз, спрашиваю
[23:20:44] <loir_> ErshKUS, такая в Твери, кстати, есть нумерация
[23:20:58] <loir_> если я тебя праильно понял
[23:21:12] <loir_> есть два дома, 8 и 10.
[23:21:43] <loir_> 1-4 подъезд - 8 дом. у 10 дома нумерация поъездов идёт с 5 по 8
[23:22:42] <ErshKUS> не
[23:23:29] <ErshKUS> один дом, у него 4 подъезда к примеру. И каждый подъезд имеет адрес как у дома
[23:24:14] <ErshKUS> улица хх, д.2; улица хх, д.4; улица хх, д.6; улица хх, д.8
[23:24:50] <ErshKUS> т.е. в каждом подъезде нумерация квартир с 1
[23:25:03] <loir_> не встречал
[23:26:02] <ErshKUS> кстати, есть вообще атас, у одного дома: д.4, д.4а, д.4б, д.6
[23:26:21] <ErshKUS> т.е. записав 4-6 хрен угадаешь какие там
[23:30:27] <loir_> видел похожее, с девятиэтажками, но там не прям один дом, корпуса впритык стоят просто
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