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[00:07:05] <nordmike> …—åø
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[02:34:35] <andrewsh> https://github.com/rurseekatze/node-tileserver
[02:38:05] <Mixaill> andrewsh: очень странный installation guide. Зачем куча npm install, если можно зафигачить package.json ?
[02:39:01] <andrewsh> нет идеи
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[09:52:51] <freeExec> Zverik_home: видое с оммм будет обрабатываться или уже заливается на ютуб ;) ?
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[09:58:40] <Zverik_home> freeExec: видео появится не раньше следующей недели. Там и звук Scondo улучшает, и видео я хочу немного обработать
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[13:00:44] <trolleway> Google Street View выкатил большое обновление по РФ
[13:00:45] <watchkitten> http://droider.ru/post/dungeon-hunter-3-bolshoe-obnovlenie-dostupno-dlya-skachivaniya-24-07-2012/
[13:00:59] <trolleway> лол
[13:01:03] <andrewsh> лорем ипсум, долор сит амет
[13:01:13] <andrewsh> консектетур долорем элит
[13:01:24] <Mixaill> Google Street View
[13:01:25] <watchkitten> http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View
[13:01:40] <trolleway> Google социопроблемы
[13:01:41] <watchkitten> http://bfolder.ru/photo/anonimus/socioproblemy/7-0-15978
[13:01:56] <Mixaill> Google лорем ипсум, долор сит амет
[13:01:58] <watchkitten> http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum
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[13:43:51] <Jim[work]> Google фригус канинус
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[13:45:08] <Jim[work]> бл. как же оно там
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[14:39:46] <az09|cgi> ктонить пользуется сохранением в формате geojson в JOSM-е?
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[14:44:58] <Zverik> andrewsh: http://w-o-s.ru/chance/7044
[14:45:59] <freeExec|2> это новый доктор чтоли ?
[14:46:56] <Zverik> freeExec|2: вероятно :)
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[14:49:51] <trolleway> я не пользуюсь
[14:50:08] <trolleway> а как его включить? Что-то я такого плагина не помню
[14:54:53] <Zverik> trolleway: это не плагин, оно встроено
[14:55:00] <Zverik> «сохранить как», и там десяток форматов
[14:55:08] <az09|cgi> trolleway, "Save as..." ага
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[14:59:00] <Komzzpa> trolleway: ping, какой у тебя скайп?
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[15:02:59] <Komzzpa> фотоньки с оммм: https://vk.com/album583608_186586839
[15:03:03] <trolleway> Komzzpa не помню, он у меня нормально выключен
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[17:00:21] <Zverik> канал об аниме в опасности: http://politsovet.ru/44194-v-rossii-sozdadut-pravoslavnuyu-sistemu-borby-s-anime.html
[17:01:42] <Mixaill> Переименуем в канал об KDE2 и будем действительно говорить об аниме!
[17:09:00] <old_Bibigon> Zverik, будем смотреть ониме сугубо с сиськами, там смерти мало
[17:10:06] <old_Bibigon> Однако для своевременного реагирования на новую продукцию японской анимации православному сообществу потребуется большой штат. Только за январь 2014 года было выпущено около 35 новых произведений. Кроме того, поклонники аниме просматривают новую пр
[17:10:06] <old_Bibigon> одукцию в Интернете, не дожидаясь официальных переводов. Как правило, им хватает субтитров, сделанных энтузиастами. Таким образом, сообществу потребуется еще и штатный переводчик.
[17:10:23] <old_Bibigon> так они может и софтсаб делать будут тогда ^___^
[17:12:54] <freeExec|2> ох уж эти религии безопасного интернета
[17:16:03] <Mixaill> >>Только за январь 2014 года было выпущено около 35 новых произведений.
[17:16:05] <Mixaill> Штука в день, иногда две. Пфф
[17:16:50] <old_Bibigon> цеж сезоны, по 12 эпов обычно
[17:17:25] <old_Bibigon> 1 эп в неделю :)
[17:18:03] <freeExec|2> лучше бы детей в кукольный театр водили, а не фигнёй страдали. а на месте прихожал байкот бы им финансовый устроил
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[17:20:55] <Mixaill> BerliOS рипнулся (как будто им кто-то пользовался) http://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=38991
[17:23:39] <old_Bibigon> [баян] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLS60VzbDnQ
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[18:26:39] <jekhor> Народ, а напомните, что у нас с "настольными" рендерерами OSM? Какие есть с возможностью лёгкого редактирования стиля не OSM-гиками?
[18:27:15] <Mixaill> jekhor: чтобы мышевозить - таких нет
[18:27:57] <jekhor> ну хотя бы текстово редактировать, но с примерами более-менее приличных стилей типа штатных мапниковских/мапквеста
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[18:31:45] <jekhor> блин, вот казалось бы, одно ж из очевидных применений осма...
[18:33:22] <Mixaill> jekhor: есть Mapsurfer.exe (странная система стилей, только Windows) и Tilemill (нет прямой загрузки .osm)
[18:33:46] <Mixaill> jekhor: можно сканпелять alacarte и писать на mapcss
[18:34:39] <jekhor> опять эт гнилая проприетарщина :)
[18:35:39] <Mixaill> jekhor: еще mapcss можно подсовывать в JOSM
[18:36:43] <Mixaill> Но вообще да, http://все.очень.плохо.jpg.to/
[18:53:28] <jekhor> мды, у мапсёрфера инсталлятор тянет .NET 4.5, а потом жалуется, что ему не хватает 4.0.
[18:53:30] <jekhor> В утиль.
[18:53:52] <Mixaill> jekhor: ты его под вайном штоле пускаешь?
[18:54:21] <jekhor> хрюшка под виртуалбоксом
[18:54:40] <Mixaill> jekhor: хрюшка не умеет в .NET 4.5
[18:54:47] <jekhor> охренеть
[18:54:53] <jekhor> тогда точно в утиль
[18:55:10] <jekhor> а Maperitive ещё живой?
[18:56:15] <Mixaill> аж до версии 2.3.30 как-то вырос
[18:56:38] <Mixaill> умеет пускаться под mono
[18:57:02] <jekhor> да не, мне виндузятникам отдать
[18:57:36] <jekhor> и векторный вывод нужен
[18:58:02] <Mixaill> jekhor: SVG
[19:01:42] <jekhor> мды. А PDF/PS?
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[19:03:15] <Mixaill> jekhor: а чем svg плох, иллюстраторы всякие его читают
[19:03:29] <jekhor> всё-таки читают? Помню, что корел не умел.
[19:03:37] <jekhor> Точнее, умел, но лучше бы не умел...
[19:06:00] <Mixaill> jekhor: вики говорит, что с 10-й версии (2001 год)
[19:06:22] <Mixaill> думаю, за 13 лет что-то адекватное сделать можно было
[19:06:48] <jekhor> ну вот 10-й вроде и пробовал я когда-то...
[19:07:03] <Mixaill> а, я про иллюстратор
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[19:09:59] <jekhor> и этому дотнет нужен, а он 800 мегабайт на диске хочет
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[19:52:13] <jekhor> ну маперитив юзабелен, но стили у него жутко описываются
[19:53:27] <Mixaill> jekhor: а если нужен вектор, то и аналогов больше нет.
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[19:57:07] <jekhor> даже после установки .NET мапсёрфер не взлетел, выдаёт какую-то runtime error
[20:01:48] <Mixaill> jekhor: VС++ Redist 2012 x64 нужен ему
[20:02:50] <Mixaill> Runge: разреши установку только для NT 6.0+
[20:03:24] <Mixaill> jekhor: можешь в логах чата посмотреть, какие пляски с Windows 8.1 были :D
[20:04:31] <Mixaill> кстати, я тут слышал, что QEMU c KVM шустрее Virtualbox, причем намного. Сие правда?
[20:05:32] <Runge> Mixaill: спасибо за инфу. добавлю.
[20:05:38] <jekhor> э-э, сомневаюсь :)
[20:10:15] <Mixaill> во, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_haswell_virtualization&num=2
[20:10:17] <Mixaill> коробка сливает
[20:10:48] <Zverik> Mixaill: я в тайлмилле svg экспортирую постоянно
[20:11:05] <Mixaill> Zverik: так там же нету прямого .osm
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[20:11:28] <Zverik> да, но разве в условиях задачи есть чтение .osm?
[20:11:28] <Mixaill> jekhor: или пофиг из чего брать данные?
[20:11:47] <jekhor> в идеале — загружать прямо с сервера
[20:11:50] <Zverik> я просто качаю шейпы нужных регионов, или экспортирую geojson из overpass turbo
[20:12:17] <Zverik> вроде, маперитив умеет качать данные с сервера
[20:12:32] <Mixaill> маперитив умеет, да
[20:12:59] <jekhor> Zverik, условие задачи: "Женя, скажи, как нам получить кусочек Минска с OSM в векторе без названий улиц и в других цветах"?
[20:13:26] <jekhor> Zverik, ну я выше написал, что маперитив юзабелен, но у него жутко сделана работа со стилями
[20:22:57] <putnik> Ой, раз тут такое активное обсуждение, попробую снова влезть со своим вопросом =) Чем можно вытащить для планеты значение одного-нескольких свойств?
[20:23:34] <Mixaill> putnik: есть предположение, что каким-нибудь overpass API
[20:24:06] <Mixaill> putnik: а чем тебе taginfo не подходит?
[20:26:43] <putnik> Mixaill, упустил важный момент. Мне надо не абстрактно ключ=значение, а с привзякой к id ноды/линии/отношения.
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[20:47:48] <az09|not> putnik: для такого я бы наверное развернул БД
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[22:14:18] <Mixaill> твиттер редизайнулся уже для всех =\
[22:27:14] <andrewsh> ой, какой ужас
[22:27:35] <Mixaill> да, iOS 7 во все поля
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