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[01:59:33] <andrewsh> 22:56:15 < pnorman> openstreetmap.by convinces me that all mappers in that region are really cats.
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[05:12:33] <AMDmi3> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/14/why-the-world-needs-openstreetmap
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[14:50:49] <Zverik> сайт ржд — это пипец сегодня. Покупал билет, на каждом шаге вылетала ошибка 500, исправлялась перезагрузкой страницы. Даже после оплаты
[14:51:05] <Zverik> кстати, пора брать билеты на 1 февраля в Москву, кто ещё не
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[14:58:19] <freeExec> хех, после первого предлажения мне вспомнился пипец, что твоя персональная информация становится публичной на их сайте
[14:58:32] <freeExec> *предложения
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[16:07:55] <Zverik> для жосмеров-юниксоидов может быть полезно: @6682, 13.01: для Unix можно задать список браузеров в свойстве browser.unix #5629 #5108 #9568 (для меня — точно полезно)
[16:10:37] <Zverik> также, в josm trac появились майлстоуны, по месяцам: 14.01, 14.02 и так далее. Правда, просмотр только для зарегистрированных пользователей
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/roadmap
[16:10:47] <Zverik> и запланированных тикетов всего 8 штук
[16:12:18] <andrewsh> а я вот пробовал собрать жосм 6502
[16:12:21] <andrewsh> и не смог
[16:12:56] <Zverik> #нозачем
[16:13:23] <andrewsh> эммм
[16:13:31] <andrewsh> зааплоадить в дебиан хотел
[16:13:36] <andrewsh> не собирается, зараза
[16:15:27] <Zverik> а в чём ошибка?
[16:15:33] <Zverik> я его десятки раз собирал
[16:16:24] <andrewsh> [javac] 26 errors
[16:16:54] <andrewsh> http://paste.debian.net/76361/
[16:20:23] <andrewsh> и правда, в исходниках два раза строки некоторые
[16:20:26] <andrewsh> что за чушь
[16:21:10] <andrewsh> белиберда какая-то
[16:30:21] <Zverik> andrewsh:
http://josm.openstreetmap.de/browser/josm/trunk/src/org/openstreetmap/josm/actions/AutoScaleAction.java?rev=6380 не вижу дублирования
[16:30:39] <andrewsh> Zverik: ну вот а я вижу
[16:30:44] <andrewsh> кто-то покоцал исходники
[16:30:50] <andrewsh> самым разужаснейшим образом
[16:30:54] <Zverik> значит, у тебя svn странный. Ты откуда добывал исходники?
[16:31:31] <andrewsh> у меня не svn, в том и дело
[16:31:37] <andrewsh> я ж пакет собираю
[16:31:41] <Zverik> эээээ
[16:31:45] <andrewsh> ты про git-buildpackage слышал?
[16:32:05] <andrewsh> когда в гите складываются тарболлы, распакованные исходники и дебиановская пакетировка
[16:32:08] <andrewsh> по бранчам
[16:32:15] <Zverik> повторю вопрос тогда — откуда добывал исходники?
[16:32:21] <andrewsh> 13:31:37 < andrewsh> я ж пакет собираю
[16:32:26] <andrewsh> 13:32:05 < andrewsh> когда в гите складываются тарболлы, распакованные исходники и дебиановская пакетировка
[16:32:30] <Zverik> откуда собираешь?
[16:32:30] <andrewsh> пишу же
[16:32:39] <andrewsh> ты можешь прочитать?
[16:32:51] <andrewsh> распакованные исходники не соответствовали тарболлам
[16:33:00] <andrewsh> тарболлы чекаутятся из svn
[16:33:00] <Zverik> где не соответствовали? url?
[16:33:06] <andrewsh> содержимым
[16:33:14] <Zverik> в josm svn нет тарболлов
[16:33:29] <andrewsh> утомляет же по нескольку раз писать
[16:33:30] <andrewsh> 13:33:00 < andrewsh> тарболлы чекаутятся из svn
[16:33:48] <Komzpa> andrewsh: как и чем?
[16:33:53] <Zverik> короче, понятно, опять безнадёжны попытки выяснить и починить.
[16:34:02] <Zverik> чекауть тарболлы дальше
[16:34:05] <andrewsh> починить — снести распакованные исходники
[16:34:12] <andrewsh> уже починил, собственно
[16:34:24] <andrewsh> чекаутятся svn-ом, чем ещё?!
[16:34:32] <Komzpa> у тебя же нет svn!
[16:34:41] <andrewsh> «сообщения не читай @ сразу отвечай», да?
[16:34:52] <Komzpa> что за чушь
[16:34:56] <Komzpa> белиберда какая-то
[16:35:37] <Zverik> Komzpa: забей, это бывает, главное — не читать
[16:35:45] <Zverik> ты едешь на оммм? :)
[16:35:54] <andrewsh> Zverik: главное — как раз читать
[16:36:15] <andrewsh> а не бездумно отвечать, не читая
[16:41:53] <Komzpa> Zverik: хочу, ищу возможости
[16:42:16] <Zverik> Komzpa: на плацкарте туда-обратно можно за 2к с небольшим
[16:42:31] <Zverik> на конфе будет небольшой перекус
[16:46:24] <freeExec> а есть ли у нас отношения определяющие часовые пояса ?
[16:52:05] <Zverik> freeExec: нет, и не надо
[16:52:24] <freeExec> почему так категорично
[16:52:36] <freeExec> хайрез снимки хранят и ни чё
[16:53:19] <Zverik> снимки тоже не надо в базе хранить
[16:54:27] <Zverik> freeExec: но если очень хочется, можно поискать тег timezone на отношениях boundary=administrative
[16:54:35] <Zverik> например
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/72195
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[16:55:26] <freeExec> а точно если что таймзона распространяется на всю область ?
[16:56:23] <Zverik> ставь тег на ту границу, на которую распространяется. В России деление по областям, в Европе — по странам
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[17:50:29] <Zverik> о, плиточка :)
http://share.mapbbcode.org/poaky (highway=pedestrian + area=yes на мапсёрфере)
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[18:00:07] <Runge> Zverik, уже как месяц наверное ))
[18:00:26] <Zverik> Runge: если не знать, фиг заметишь, по-моему :)
[18:01:19] <Runge> ну идея была подсветить как-нибудь, не нарушая общую гармонию.
[18:03:38] <freeExec> а area:highway ?
[18:05:59] <Runge> для area:highway нужен новый импорт
[18:06:59] <Runge> базы данных
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[18:07:23] <Komzzpa> Runge: phstore!
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[18:09:18] <Runge> я его использую. но уже не помню в чем проблема с area:highway. кто-нибудь может дать ссылку на объект этого типа?
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[18:13:33] <Zverik> я в штосме писал, в чём там проблема :)
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[18:14:01] <freeExec> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/180721992
[18:14:29] <Runge> спасибо.
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[18:15:01] <Runge> Zverik: а какой пост?
[18:15:35] <Zverik> Runge:
http://shtosm.ru/2012/09/05/1/
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[18:17:23] <Runge> эта тема немного про другое. )
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[18:36:52] <Runge> freeExec:
http://openstreetmap.ru/#map=18/54.31431/48.40283
[18:37:15] <Runge> теперь и area:highway отображаются плиткой.
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[19:03:14] <Zverik> философский вопрос от Елены в анонсе оммм
http://unigeo.ru/news/mappers
[19:04:05] <andrewsh> OneStreetMap?
[19:05:06] <andrewsh> карта одной улицы :)
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[19:09:21] <Zverik> Единая :)
[19:09:33] <Zverik> One Street Map to rule them all
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[19:22:28] <andrewsh> Zverik: а я всё воюю с жосмом
[19:22:44] <andrewsh> оказалось, они ВНЕЗАПНО пересели на более новую версию metadata-extractor
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[19:23:27] <andrewsh> было много радости с портированием
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[22:41:31] <Komzzzpa> кто-нибудь менял газовую колонку когда-нибудь? :)
[22:53:08] <CutterRus> Komzzzpa: а что интересует?
[22:56:20] <CutterRus> хотя, блин, я не помню уже ничего
[22:56:59] <Komzzzpa> CutterRus: что там ломается, чем чинится и вообще
[22:57:15] <Komzzzpa> CutterRus: форумы пестрят "вызывай газовщика, он что-нибудь сделает"
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[23:00:30] <bim2010> Komzzzpa я менял на прошлой неделе.
[23:01:22] <Komzzzpa> bim2010: в моих калькуляциях вышло ~12k rub на всё, это примерно так?
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[23:02:07] <bim2010> 8200 руб
[23:02:29] <bim2010> сама колонка
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[23:03:53] <bim2010> ставил самостоятельно. Еще затраты были на лен и прокладки и батарейку около 150 рублей. Все.
[23:05:20] <Komzzzpa> bim2010: жильё съёмное/своё?
[23:05:29] <bim2010> свое
[23:07:50] <bim2010> Можно было еще дешевле если заказывать через инет. магазины. Но они обещали доставить только к 15 января. Ждать не мог. Взял из того что было в наличии. Мощность 14 литров/мин.
[23:09:17] <Komzzzpa> у нас тут потекла и мы залили соседей :3
[23:10:49] <bim2010> У меня тоже прогорела и потекла, но были выходные дни и я быстро заметил, отключил воду в стояке.
[23:11:29] <bim2010> Предыдущая колонка отработала больше 5 лет
[23:13:49] <bim2010> судя по отзывам в инете на эту модель у меня отличные результаты по продолжительности эксплуатации. Рекорд - у людей прогорела за 3 месяца.
[23:14:15] <Komzzzpa> наша сдохла за год
[23:14:46] <Komzzzpa> приходивший газовщик сказал "поднимайте давление в трубах, иначе все сгорят"
[23:15:47] <bim2010> У меня вокруг колонки всякого оборудования в сумме дороже чем колонка
[23:16:56] <bim2010> Два фильтра, байпас, насос повыш. давления грюнфус за ~ 4000
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[23:28:04] <bim2010> Колонка импортная была?
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[23:33:21] <Komzzzpa> нева 3010
[23:38:34] <bim2010> Была Нева Транзит ВПГ-12Е заменил на НЕВА ЛЮКС 5514. Вообще я хотел купить Электролюкс. Не было в наличии.
[23:44:00] <bim2010> Ваш прайс не доступен
http://minskgas.by/getdoc/178b5818-f5cc-4b67-b705-672b103f688f/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D0%9B%D1%8E%D0%BA%D1%81-5514.aspx
[23:44:01] <bim2010> А сколько она у вас стоит?
[23:52:51] <bim2010> 222 €