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[09:57:25] <kguclu> is it legal to use leaflets with google maps api in an angularjs application
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[10:05:13] <liedman> kguclu: I seem to remember that you're not allowed to use google's tiles without also using their api
[10:05:45] <liedman> kguclu: but that can easily be a misunderstanding on my part, or might have changed since it's a couple of years since I checked
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[20:08:35] <pandeiro> hi everyone
[20:09:11] <pandeiro> is there somewhere i can read about how placenames are rendered - particularly how which places to label is determined at different zoom levels
[20:09:16] <pandeiro> tia
[20:11:12] <chillly> that's nothing to do with Leaflet, that's to do with the way the tiles are created.
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[20:12:34] <chillly> leaflet just throws the right tiles in the right part of the screen, it doesn't know what's on the tiles
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[20:21:07] <chillly> most bitmap tiles are rendered with Mapnik. A tool to help create the style sheet for Mapnik to render, including how to place placenames, is TillMill, by MapBox.
[20:24:03] <pandeiro> chillly: ah thanks, i wasn't sure if that was leaflet's domain or not
[20:24:46] <pandeiro> it's an interesting problem b/c it is really useful to correlate that with population so that major, and not random, cities show up at lower zooms
[20:25:36] <chillly> Not everyone would agree with population being the driver :)
[20:25:45] <chillly> R U in the US?
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[20:26:24] <patricka_> chillly: what would you use as another indicator?
[20:27:37] <chillly> heirarchy of, say, locality, hamlet, village, suburb, town, city
[20:29:24] <pandeiro> chillly: no, not US but you make a good point
[20:29:25] <patricka_> interesting assuming you would mix and match then at different zooms, so zoom 8 for example would show localities and cities by zoom 10 might show cities and towns
[20:30:07] <patricka_> there isn't a right way to do it but for general purpose tiles most people can quickly identify country and their closest major city
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[20:32:44] <chillly> Mapnik has collision code to stop labels overlapping, whereas a (human) cartographer can move labels around to ensure both get sensibly drawn. I expect collision code will only get better
[20:35:41] <chillly> pandeiro: you can use pop. size help with rendering places - if pop. size is in your dataset. OSM doesn't have pop. size for everywhere. If some are missing you need arbitrary choices, or another datasource
[20:36:01] <pandeiro> chillly: sure, makes sense
[20:36:42] <pandeiro> could also just be a whitelist of 1,000 major cities, with fallback to whatever the existing algorithm is - i wonder if that is possible
[20:37:12] <chillly> Till Mill is worth a look. Works best with Postgresql database with the data in. Postgresql is easy to set up on Linux, eg Ubuntu.
[20:37:25] <pandeiro> chillly: i will check it out
[20:37:45] <chillly> HTH
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[20:37:55] <pandeiro> chillly: for sure, thank you
[20:39:30] <chillly> I think there's some info in
http://switch2osm.org/
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[23:30:36] <swingley> bad ssl cert on cdn.leafletjs.com?
http://cl.ly/image/3W0m2y302t1E
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