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[08:53:08] <telmessos> hi I have a problem in viewing my first map in Leaflet. I tried to do same/similar things on both "Getting Started" section Leaflet page and pages on the internet. I couldn't make it work. All I see is a gray window on the page. How can I get help from here.
[08:56:28] <telmessos> anybody online here?
[08:56:32] <Teme> yep
[08:56:40] <Teme> too bad i am just a bystander :)
[08:57:28] <telmessos> no worries most of the help channels are full of bystanders only :)
[08:57:36] <Teme> chan hasn't seemed very active the last month, every now and then somebody asks a question and maybe 50% get an answer
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[09:02:33] <liedman> telmessos: any details on what you changed from "Gettings started"?
[09:03:05] <liedman> telmessos: a common mistake is to forget to initialize the map with a start coordinate and zoom...
[09:03:47] <liedman> telmessos: so first make sure you call map.setView, map.fitBounds or similar
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[10:18:36] <telmessos> liedman are you here?
[10:18:52] <telmessos> I was out for lunch
[10:19:02] <telmessos> so just seen your message
[10:23:06] <telmessos> I am trying to add WMS layer instead of what is explained on "Getting Started" section.
[10:23:12] <telmessos> I could not make it work :(
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[10:38:02] <liedman> telmessos: have you checked the browser debug tools to check what wms images (if any) it requests?
[10:38:46] <liedman> telmessos: you might also want to make sure your wms supports the epsg:3857 projection, since that's the default leaflet uses
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[10:54:58] <telmessos> EPSG of my project is 2320
[10:55:06] <telmessos> do I have to add this
[10:55:36] <telmessos> somewhere in the code?
[10:56:45] <telmessos> plus the bbox client sends is completely different from project
[10:58:27] <liedman> telmessos: yeah, that's because it's sending epsg:3857 coordinates
[10:58:56] <liedman> telmessos: you need to provide a crs (coordinate reference system) when you create the leaflet map, to tell it to use epsg:2320
[10:59:18] <liedman> telmessos: unfortunatly, there's no builtin support for this projection in leaflet
[10:59:48] <liedman> telmessos: but you can use the plugin proj4leaflet to get more general projection support in leaflet:
https://github.com/kartena/Proj4Leaflet/
[11:00:14] <liedman> telmessos: (I'm one of the plugin's authors, btw)
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[11:03:12] <telmessos> how do i use this plugin? what do I need to do?
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[11:06:49] <liedman> telmessos: you need to download proj4leaflet.js (it's in the src directory) and proj4 (you can download a version here:
https://github.com/kartena/Proj4Leaflet/tree/master/lib), and load them from script tags in your web page
[11:07:13] <liedman> you need to load proj4 before proj4leaflet, and proj4leaflet needs to be loaded after leaflet has been loaded
[11:10:37] <telmessos> liedman: I did it. I don't know how to tell leaflet use 2320
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[11:11:04] <telmessos> plus one more thing. I don't know what value to enter new L.map('map').setView() section
[11:12:10] <liedman> telmessos: check the usage example for proj4leaflet, you need the proj4 definition for 2320:
http://epsg.io/2320.proj4
[11:12:45] <liedman> telmessos: there's also a wms example in proj4leaflet which you can check out, it should show you what you need to do
[11:13:01] <liedman> telmessos:
https://github.com/kartena/Proj4Leaflet/tree/master/examples/wms
[11:14:31] <telmessos> it is unbelievable hard to understand all these things.
[11:14:51] <telmessos> anyway thanks for trying.
[11:15:00] <liedman> telmessos: welcome to the world of gis :)
[11:15:28] <telmessos> i think instead of wasting time between these open layers leaflet etc.
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[11:15:37] <liedman> telmessos: but yeah, as soon as you stop using defaults (like other projections), it becomes pretty tricky
[11:15:39] <telmessos> I'll use one of those PMapper or
[11:16:05] <telmessos> GeoMoose which seems easier to use.
[11:17:05] <telmessos> liedman: the problem is in leaflet the documentation is totally crab.
[11:17:20] <telmessos> it gives some piece of codes in each section.
[11:17:37] <telmessos> but there's no one simple working example in each kind of
[11:17:43] <telmessos> map style.
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[11:18:16] <liedman> telmessos: I beg to differ, few libs I use have docs of better quality, IMHO
[11:18:34] <liedman> telmessos: did you check the tutorials?
[11:19:36] <liedman> telmessos: but of course there might be stuff missing. please suggest something if there's something in particular you're missing.
[11:19:51] <telmessos> yeap I checked them. It says "Quick Start" it gives just lines of example codes but there's no one complete example at all.
[11:20:21] <telmessos> all are written for professionals not like dummies style
[11:20:54] <liedman> yeah, they probably assume familiarity with web development and javascript
[11:21:14] <telmessos> there's an example for adding one tile map. but kind find minimum lines I need to add for just one WMS layer
[11:21:16] <telmessos> :D
[11:21:24] <telmessos> I am a web developer and computer engineer
[11:21:43] <telmessos> but still I am new to programming GIS
[11:22:22] <telmessos> can not know how to use a piece of code if the owner does not provide minimum required parameters to be added for using the code.
[11:26:03] <liedman> the docs could perhaps state more explicitly that the wms layer will only work for epsg:3857 (or other projections built in to leaflet), and that you need a plugin for other projections
[11:26:48] <telmessos> liedman: you are right. time is valuable if you aure working in a project. and documentation is really important not to waste time. :)
[11:27:27] <liedman> but, as I said, some parts of GIS is pretty complicated, so once you stop using the defaults, you have to know a bit more about the details. what's nice is that leaflet packaged up defaults so that you're tricked into thinking it's really simple.
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[11:27:57] <telmessos> could you tell me one thing about this WMS example you gave.
[11:28:14] <telmessos> how do you find out what value to write map.setView([55.8, 14.3], 6);
[11:28:19] <liedman> telmessos: I know of quite a few GIS projects, no names mentioned, with MUCH worse docs
[11:28:35] <telmessos> where do you know 55.8, 14.3
[11:28:48] <liedman> telmessos: it's the latitude and longitude you want to center on
[11:29:08] <liedman> telmessos: it's shorthand for map.setView(L.latLng(55.8,14.3), 6);
[11:31:35] <telmessos> so basicly can I add (CLLX+CURX)/2 and (CLLY+CLLX)/2 right?
[11:32:10] <liedman> telmessos: if that's the center of your bounds, yes
[11:32:58] <telmessos> ok many thanks I'll try to make it work again.
[11:32:59] <telmessos> :)
[11:33:47] <liedman> telmessos: no problem, good luch!
[11:33:53] <liedman> *luck
[11:38:04] <telmessos> thanks I did it as shown in example now I don't even see the gray on the page :)
[11:40:49] <liedman> telmessos: did you swap out the projection stuff and urls, or is the unmodified example?
[11:41:16] <telmessos> lieadman where can I paste some code
[11:41:28] <telmessos> to show you the code?
[11:42:33] <telmessos> http://tny.cz/714d3d8a
[11:43:09] <telmessos> there it is
[11:47:13] <liedman> telmessos: must have misunderstood your question regarding setView
[11:47:29] <liedman> telmessos: you should use lat/lng in degrees, not in projected coordinates
[11:48:22] <liedman> telmessos: leaflet's api always uses latlng in degrees, and the projects it to the correct projection when necessary
[11:48:34] <telmessos> liedman: maybe I would have problem with the setView values but for now I have an error message of
[11:48:40] <telmessos> "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'CRS' of undefined "
[11:48:47] <telmessos> on chrome browser
[11:50:20] <liedman> telmessos: guess that means Proj4leaflet didn't load properly, for some reason
[11:50:49] <liedman> telmessos: which makes L.Proj undefined, so the call to new L.Proj.CRS fails
[11:57:58] <telmessos> liedman: yes I will give up with this. This is definitely waste of time. Already lost half a day. Many thanks anyway
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