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[13:44:28] <storrgie> does leaflet have something similar to how d3 reads and chains events on data?
[13:44:36] <storrgie> does leaflet have a csv reading capability?
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[16:56:33] <storrgie> I'm trying to use
https://github.com/sunng87/heatcanvas but I'm running into some issues with getting it set up initially
[16:56:45] <storrgie> Is there any documentation for using it with leaflet?
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[21:52:26] <sheppard> what would everyone think about adding an untiled layer class to leaflet core?
[21:53:15] <sheppard> i.e. imageoverlay but updates on map zoom
[21:54:01] <sheppard> with a hook for generating a URL based on map & screen coordinates
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[21:55:17] <sheppard> like getTileUrl but without the Tile
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[21:59:09] <sheppard> tmcw ^
[21:59:30] <tmcw> imageoverlay does update on zoom
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[22:00:05] <tmcw> sounds like you're looking for openlayers's 'single tile wms functionality'?
[22:00:15] <sheppard> yeah i'm mostly thinking about
https://github.com/Leaflet/Leaflet/issues/558
[22:00:31] <sheppard> and trying to figure out what might be in core vs. a plugin
[22:01:22] * tmcw trying not to crack up at the term "realtime business layers"
[22:01:59] <sheppard> esri-leaflet is doing something similar for dynamicmaplayers
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[22:04:51] <sheppard> and then there's the Leaflet.NonTiledLayer mentioned in that ticket
[22:05:21] <sheppard> it feels like there's a lot of overlap (potential and actual) between those and what's already in core
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[22:06:17] <sheppard> compute image url, request image, keep old image around while new one loads, then switch
[22:07:34] <sheppard> if it wasn't in core i'd almost want a sort of meta-plugin that the others derived from
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[22:09:09] <tmcw> like
https://github.com/CartoDB/Leaflet.CanvasLayer
[22:09:45] <tmcw> looks like
https://github.com/oliverheilig/Leaflet.NonTiledLayer also does htis
[22:09:47] <sheppard> we use tiles for basemaps but have things like parcel layers that are overlaid on top
[22:10:19] <sheppard> yes Leaflet.NonTiledLayer is promising
[22:10:21] <tmcw> i don't think this should be added to leaflet core
[22:10:33] <tmcw> until someone can prove that they can keep a non-tiled wms server online for an example
[22:10:54] <sheppard> though it duplicates a bunch of code from core
[22:10:54] <tmcw> in 2k9 i tried, very hard, to do that, and failed, very hard
[22:11:21] <tmcw> y, this duplicates more than it needs to.
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[22:12:33] <sheppard> it looks like esri-leaflet just extended imageoverlay at one point
[22:13:05] <sheppard> but they changed it to have a smoother image swap
[22:13:18] <sheppard> it still uses imageoverlay for the actual loading though
[22:13:33] <sheppard> anyway, i can understand why it might not be desirable to have this in core
[22:14:02] <sheppard> though i might still find a spot or two where an extra hook would make a plugin easier to maintain
[22:15:45] <sheppard> would it make sense to extend support for the general concept (non-tiled extent-dependant image) but maybe not specific to wms?
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[22:16:16] <sheppard> maybe just an option on imageoverlay
[22:17:42] <tmcw> you could just attach listeners to map movement and add / remove imageoverlays that cover the entire map extent
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[22:20:40] <sheppard> that could work, i think that's basically what esri-leaflet does now
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[22:23:11] <sheppard> could/should the WMS logic be abstracted from the tilelayer?
[22:23:16] <sheppard> as a mixin or something
[22:24:00] <sheppard> i guess there isn't that much code there...
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[22:24:24] <sheppard> still it would be nice to minimize duplication
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[22:26:46] <sheppard> i'm assuming it would be awkward to extend L.TileLayer.WMS to make it untiled
[22:27:46] <sheppard> vs. just a simple "layer" that adds and removes imageoverlays internally
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[22:32:07] <tmcw> yeahh
[22:32:17] <tmcw> i'd rather keep the part of leaflet that deals with wms as small as possible
[22:32:22] <tmcw> wms is a losing proposition
[22:33:52] <sheppard> are there any other use cases for non-tiled layers (other than esri dynamicmap and wms)?
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[22:34:32] <tmcw> i don't know of any - there are usecases for single canvas layers, but...
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[22:34:57] <sheppard> yeah i'm not aware of any
[22:35:18] <sheppard> do you think L.TileLayer.WMS might go away eventually?
[22:35:25] <sheppard> or become a plugin rather
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[22:44:00] <sheppard> got to go - i'll look into the plugin route and come back if i have other questions
[22:44:06] <sheppard> thanks
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