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[03:29:33] <hhhh> how to overlay a sketch of a 2km x 2km area at the right place on a OSM base layer... tutorial? example?
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[16:53:33] <hhhh> how to overlay a sketch of a 2km x 2km area at the right place on a OSM base layer... tutorial? example?
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[18:49:24] <hhhh> how to overlay a sketch of a 2km x 2km area at the right place on a OSM base layer... tutorial? example?
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[19:42:34] <bryjbrown> I've got a question about using image overlays in leaflet if anyone's active
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[20:04:50] <hhhh> how to overlay a sketch of a 2km x 2km area at the right place on a OSM base layer... tutorial? example?
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[20:07:44] <bryjbrown> I think I'm trying to do the same thing
[20:08:05] <hhhh> bryjbrown: could be
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[20:08:42] <bryjbrown> Getting on the map is easy, getting it to be geographically accurate is a PITA
[20:10:04] <hhhh> bryjbrown: can we start at basics -- we're assuming that we have an OSM map working on our site, right?
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[20:11:05] <bryjbrown> hhhh: I'm a bit confused here, are you asking me a question or answering my question?
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[20:12:44] <hhhh> bryjbrown: trying to establish a baseline to discussing what is apparently our common issue.
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[20:13:30] <bryjbrown> sounds good. Yes, we both have OSM base maps.
[20:14:33] <bryjbrown> hhhh: My project, if it helps give context:
http://dlib.indiana.edu/~bryjbrow/maptest/
[20:14:36] <hhhh> bryjbrown: Excellent. Now, we want to add another layer, presumably with variable transparency, pertinent to some very limited area, in my case about 2km x 2km, yes?
[20:14:57] <bryjbrown> hhhh: correct.
[20:16:24] <hhhh> bryjbrown: vector artwork, maybe some feature corrections, some text (e.g. in my case, prior street names), yes?
[20:16:54] <bryjbrown> hhhh: My layer is simply a .jpg of a historical map
[20:18:50] <bryjbrown> hhhh: I've got it loaded as an overlay and I've approximated the bounds (latlongs of the top right and bottom left corners) but I need a way to make it accurate, preferably using a georectified .tif file
[20:18:56] <hhhh> bryjbrown: Great. I use a lot of historical maps and my first shot at this used a small section of a historical map.
[20:19:07] <hhhh> (Sorry, getting a coffee, BRB)
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[20:21:52] <hhhh> bryjbrown: OK, better now. Shouldn't matter much about the source material, end up with an image that needs to be matched to the base layer, right?
[20:22:11] <bryjbrown> hhhh: yes, exactly.
[20:23:06] <hhhh> bryjbrown: (looking for my work from months ago, jus' a sec)
[20:25:29] <bryjbrown> hhhh: Thanks, I really appreciate your help.
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[20:27:33] <hhhh> bryjbrown: let's hope we can help each other! I've been trying to find guidance for this for quite a while. Last tried to do a sample overlay in August, 2013, so I'm needing to refresh my memory.
[20:28:06] <bryjbrown> hhhh: I can certainly understand.
[20:30:19] <hhhh> bryjbrown: as I recall, my big mistake was starting with source material that's too different from current reality. as it turns out, I've concluded that none of the old maps of the area are really very accurate, either
[20:31:19] <bryjbrown> hhhh: Yes, that's part of my problem. I've been tasked with using a map that's a bit disproportionate.
[20:32:29] <bryjbrown> hhhh: I'm trying to modify the latlong bounds of the overlay to get it *CLOSE* to right, but when I add markers you can see how far off I really am :(
[20:32:30] <hhhh> bryjbrown: that is, accurate at the detail level... hmmm, conceptually, let's consider deriving our source material from the OSM imagery to give us the best chance of good --very good-- matching.
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[20:33:38] <bryjbrown> hhhh: I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that (I'm completely new to geocoding), but continue.
[20:34:58] <hhhh> bryjbrown: I'm a noob with a less-than-perfect memory. I find the terminology a bit slippery, too, so I'm going for a baseline we can both agree on.
[20:35:31] <hhhh> bryjbrown: please be patient with me!
[20:36:11] <bryjbrown> hhhh: Haha, not a problem. Unfortunately I have to leave for a meeting in about 20 minutes though, just so you know.
[20:37:59] <hhhh> bryjbrown: OK, we'll get as far as we can, maybe set a time to pick it up later, OK? Back to it: My actual need: today there's a street entering a square -here-, but 90 years ago, it entered -there-
[20:40:08] <bryjbrown> hhhh: Okay. The street was in a physically different place IRL, correct?
[20:41:44] <hhhh> bryjbrown: I think the street was physically moved at some point. Anyway, I want to show that on an overlay. Could start with today's imagery, use a bitmap editor to modify it to show the old entry point.
[20:42:54] <hhhh> bryjbrown: Sorry: not "imagery" ... OSM artwork
[20:44:38] <bryjbrown> hhhh: Hmmm, that could work. Another route would be to plot points where the old road was and kind of "draw" the old road onto the base layer
[20:46:14] <chillly> guys, if you have an image to overlay first you need to align it with the OSM map (say). Use
http://mapwarper.net/ to do that
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[20:46:24] <hhhh> bryjbrown: intuitively, I want to leave the base layer alone -- rather, dup it, make only mod I need, then try to match the best ref points.
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[20:47:10] <bryjbrown> chillly: THANK YOU. This looks like it could do exactly what I want.
[20:47:25] <chillly> Then downlaod the .tif and tile it with gdal functions
[20:47:28] <hhhh> chilly: thnks for jumping in, for me at least the problem is seeing the entire process thru -- warping is one step
[20:48:01] <chillly> you can then display these tiles in the normal way.
[20:48:29] <bryjbrown> chillly: Okay, once the file is georectified with mapwarper, how do I use it with leaflet?
[20:48:36] <bryjbrown> That's the part I'm stuck on actually
[20:51:31] <bryjbrown> chillly: I actually have been given a few GeoTIFFs but I can't find any info on how I can display them in leaflet
[20:51:46] <chillly> gdal2tiles.py is a python prog, part of the gdal stuff, that converts a rectified geotiff into tiles.
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[20:52:24] <chillly> It creates them as tms tiles in the directory structure Leaflet expects to display as a layer.
[20:54:02] <hhhh> chilly: know of any example/tutorial that starts with some overlay artwork and walks through the entire process?
[20:55:01] <chillly> I'm writing one soon for my blog, but not until the stuff I'm working on is ready to reveal
[20:56:33] <hhhh> chilly: understood ... but what about examples/tutorials simple enough that the actual content isn't really important to anyone?
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[20:57:36] <chillly> I couldn't find such an example - I had to work it out for myself. The mapwarper site saved me lots of work recifying stuff
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[20:58:44] <Roland_> Is there anyone here who would like to help answer a leaflet question? I am stuck.
[20:58:54] <hhhh> chilly: what I found when I work on this last (last august) -- it is easy to get lost in any specific step you need to do -- and you never get from start to finish
[20:59:09] <hhhh> roland: just ask, see what happens
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[20:59:30] <Roland_> I have a TileLayer that represents a country. With the source PNG files, the pixels outside the country boundary are transparent. However, when the TileLayer is displayed within a LeafLet map, these pixels appear as white. Is there a way to have support for PNG transparency when using a TileLayer?
[21:01:08] <chillly> Roland_, the support for transparency is in your browser, leaflet just displays the pngs in the right place. Have you looked at the pngs in the browser without Leaflet?
[21:01:45] <Roland_> Yes, that is why I am confused. The png is transparent when loaded into the browser.
[21:02:18] <Roland_> Here is an example png file:
http://www.edc.uri.edu/personal/roland/cvbd/leafletv4/tilesusa/3/2/2.png
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[21:03:07] <Roland_> Here is how the png files render in this example map (note that zooming is turned off):
http://www.edc.uri.edu/personal/roland/cvbd/leafletv4/example_v2.htm
[21:04:07] <chillly> that's mostly transparent, the grey is not and the outline of the grey which is white
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[21:06:34] <Roland_> The pixels outside the boundary are transparent in the source PNG files. If you display the png file over an html background color, you will see the background color. It is just in leaflet where they are white.
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[21:16:25] <Roland_> Chilly, all of the white pixels along the border of the map are indicated as transparent pixels in the source PNG files. For example, all the pixels in the waters off of Florida are transparent in the source png files.
[21:17:31] <Roland_> However, they are rendering as white on the LeafLet map.
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[21:38:40] <Roland_> In short, it appears that LeafLet isn't correctly rendering the transparency stored in the source PNG files of a TileLayer. I believe this is a bug.
[21:41:34] <chillly> Roland_, I have just displayed mostly transparent tiles as normal and they are transparent. There is no such bug in leaflet.
[21:43:10] <Roland_> Okay, thanks for the check. I really appreciate it.
[21:43:48] <Roland_> I see what is going on now.
[21:45:01] <chillly> I've just uploaded my test:
http://pctest.raggedred.net/
[21:45:14] <chillly> The code doesn't get much simpler than that.
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[21:48:15] <Roland_> Yes Chilly, it was my error. Thanks for your help.
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[23:02:21] <robbiet480> No matter what I do, I can't disable dragging
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