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[09:44:45] <AMOL> CAN ANY ONE TELL ME "IS LEAFLET MAP IS FREE TO USE FOR UNLIMITED NUMBER OF USE OR IT HAS LIMITATION LIKE GOOGLE API (2500/DAY) ?"
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[09:52:22] <ybon> (It seems that you forgot your capslock key pressed, guy)
[09:52:27] <xeen> AMOL: why are you all capslock? Anyway, Leaflet is just „rendering engine“ used to display the map tiles (i.e. the images).
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[09:52:50] <ybon> And leaflet is just the JS part, not the files one, so there is no way to have a limitation here
[09:53:48] <xeen> AMOL: if you use Leaflet with Google Maps the same API limits apply as with the Google API. Similarily, there are limits for using the default OSM server (the one used on osm.org). There are other providers though, e.g. cloudmade
[09:53:55] <AMOL> but is it depends upon the external source for mapping? like google Map API.
[09:54:11] <xeen> yes.
[09:54:34] <AMOL> or its completely independednt of any external Server?
[09:55:09] <xeen> no. Leaflet just handles the display in the browser. It still needs mapdata from, say server1.maps.google.com or so
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[09:56:39] <AMOL> but Google API have the Limitation , then is it OK to use leaflet for different geolocation mapping ?
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[09:57:05] <AMOL> will it affect the performance ?.. what about the traffic? and Server Overload on there side?
[09:58:03] <olsson> You will need to check with the data source provider about their limitations.
[09:58:23] <AMOL> i mean as Leaflet is depends upon the Google map metadata, then do they have any limitation ?
[09:58:31] <olsson> Or just provide your own data ( tile ) source
[09:58:43] <xeen> I’m not sure we understand each other. Leaflet is what makes you be able to drag the map. The actual map still needs to come from somewhere. If you want to use Google’s map, you need to check with Google about their limits
[09:58:45] <olsson> You will have same limitation as googles api
[09:58:56] <AMOL> yaa i want to keep it on my side , is there any way to download
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[09:59:18] <olsson> You can set up your own tile server if you use openstreetmap data.
[09:59:33] <olsson> switch2osm.org
[09:59:44] <xeen> while running a map server would be possible, this is a serious undertaking. It’s probably easier to just pay Google or Cloudmade
[09:59:44] <AMOL> i know Google Map , just because of there Limitation i cant use it ..
[10:00:28] <xeen> every tile provider I know of has a limitation.
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[10:02:02] <xeen> If you use a lot of bandwidth, you will need to pay for that, no matter what. You can decide who to pay, though (e.g. Google, Cloudmade or run your own stack, but latter seems overkill for you.
[10:02:16] <AMOL> So Xeen , Olsson can u please answer my one Question , Plz tell me the LIMITATION in NUMBERS for use of leaflet ?
[10:02:33] <olsson> There is no limitation numbers on leaflet.
[10:02:48] <olsson> leaflet is just a program
[10:02:50] <olsson> not a service
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[10:03:13] <olsson> program like apache, not like a webhosting service.
[10:03:19] <AMOL> but Cloudemade gives the service for same , m i rt ?
[10:03:43] <AMOL> indirectly that MAP get downloaded from there server ?
[10:03:52] <xeen> yes
[10:04:04] <xeen> you don’t need to actually care about Leaflet
[10:04:07] <AMOL> if so does they charge ?
[10:04:10] <xeen> yes
[10:04:20] <AMOL> how mcuh they charge ?
[10:04:54] <olsson> http://cloudmade.com/select/web
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[10:06:31] <xeen> hm, they don’t state actual tile usage limit there. I believed they had one…
[10:07:31] <AMOL> Thanks olsson !!!.. :) Xeen - its there !!... Same as like Google map!!...
[10:08:21] <AMOL> Xeen see the olsson link :
http://support.cloudmade.com/answers/specialist-tools
[10:08:27] <AMOL> they have limitation
[10:08:33] <AMOL> its not free
[10:08:42] <AMOL> limited to again 2500
[10:08:49] <xeen> yeah, as I said. If you need a lot of „map“ you are going to have to pay in some way
[10:08:57] <xeen> but specialist tools is not what you’re looking for
[10:10:42] <olsson> AMOL: if you do not need a high zoom level or a big geographic area, pre generated tiles stored on your own server might be for you.
[10:11:32] <AMOL> actually its related to IP geolocation
[10:11:45] <AMOL> so i am in needs of CITY level MAPPING
[10:12:57] <xeen> yeah. I believe the best option for you would be to either pay Bing, Google, Cloudmade or Mapquest
[10:13:38] <xeen> those provide what you’re looking for. (Leaflet is just a technical detail you likely don’t need to care about once you chose your provider)
[10:15:05] <AMOL> cant i set my own Tile Server ?
[10:15:20] <AMOL> is there any Tutorial for same ?
[10:15:48] <xeen> yes there are. However, unless you have serious processing power, 30 GB+ space available I recommend against it
[10:16:50] <AMOL> I have Server with 32GB ram 1270 V2 Intell 8 core with 2TB HD and 30 TB bandwidth
[10:17:18] <AMOL> so i cn manage to hv the Tile Server
[10:17:40] <AMOL> on Processor level..... I just need guide line
[10:17:40] <xeen> yes, definitely :)
[10:17:44] <xeen> http://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/manually-building-a-tile-server/ start here, then
[10:18:48] <AMOL> it seems for LINUX server
[10:18:49] <AMOL> mine is WINDOWS.
[10:18:54] <AMOL> is it for both the server ?
[10:20:37] <xeen> I don’t understand your question.
[10:20:37] <AMOL> Xeen Thanx alot friend for guiding me!!.. :)
[10:21:01] <AMOL> i mean , This Link have the instruction for LINUX server
[10:21:09] <AMOL> i have the windows server
[10:21:15] <xeen> yeah I know
[10:21:25] <xeen> I don’t know if there are any ready-made tutorials for windows servers
[10:22:03] <xeen> I have never heard of anyone using Windows to render and serve map tiles, so I can’t tell you anything helpful.
[10:23:05] <AMOL> Its fine Xeen, Ones again Thanks Alot for giving me your valuable Time !!. :)..
[10:23:15] <xeen> a web search pretty much reveals unanswered questiosn („how to setup tile server on windows?“), while others suggest using the Linux tutorial and cygwin (something like Linux on Windows). One suggests usiner Maperative
[10:23:24] <xeen> see
http://maperitive.net/
[10:23:57] <xeen> I know Maperative as a desktop program, but I’m unsure if (or how) it can be used to serve map tiles. You may want to look into Maperative first.
[10:24:43] <AMOL> OOh great !!
[10:25:14] <AMOL> nice link... seems ...it will help me ..
[10:25:39] <xeen> If that fails… what about a Virtual Machine (using e.g. Virtual Box) that runs Ubuntu+TileServer (use tutorial above). VirtualBox can hand connections through, so it could be possible to access the Ubuntu and the tile server from "the internet"
[10:26:29] <AMOL> hmm gd Idea, i guess this is best one suitable for me !!..
[10:27:25] <xeen> http://ksmapper.blogspot.de/2011/08/simple-openstreetmap-tile-rendering.html
[10:27:29] <xeen> http://maperitive.net/docs/Commands/GenerateTiles.html
[10:27:33] <AMOL> how much is the minimum Cloud/ Virtual Server Configuration needed to set the server ?
[10:28:00] <xeen> those two links might be helpful if you’re going to use Maperative
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[10:28:33] <xeen> you mean how much RAM is required by the virtual machine, so it can render tiles and the like?
[10:28:42] <AMOL> yup
[10:29:00] <AMOL> RAM and HD SPACE ?
[10:29:49] <xeen> I have honestly no idea. Why not start with 512 MB and see how it goes? For the disk… well. Maperative estimates:
[10:29:52] <xeen> zoom level 17: 245,760 tiles (cca. 80 minutes of work, cca. 10 GB of disk space)
[10:29:56] <xeen> zoom level 18: 983,040 tiles (more than 5 hours of work, cca. 40 GB of disk space)
[10:30:08] <xeen> but can’t you use a sparse disk image?
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[10:32:32] <AMOL> its gd too, is it avalable with preinstall MAP TILE ?
[10:33:03] <xeen> not that I know of.
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[10:34:33] <AMOL> i didnt get u ?
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[10:36:15] <AMOL> ok.. i got .. :) I ll search on my own !!... Thx Xeen and hv a gr8 day !!!
[10:36:40] <xeen> good luck :)
[10:36:50] <AMOL> Cheers !!.. :)
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