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[05:06:06] <selmer> Hi everyone, is there anyway I could use leaflet to make a website like this http://robertjaso.com/ ?
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[06:49:45] <Paul10185> hey, if I have a question on leaflet... am I in the right spot?
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[07:04:09] <olsson> Yes, but you need to hang around a while for the answer usually.
[07:04:54] <Paul10185> No problem... I haven't used IRC in a decade... just wanted to make sure I was doing it right. :-)
[07:05:19] <zod> selmer: I don't think you could have all the features. I think there is no easy way to be able to pan in a thumbnail.
[07:09:51] <Paul10185> I am making a mobile app that essentially a bunch of large images (e.g. pages of a book) and the images are too large for mobile browsers to handle gracefully so I'm looking into tiling solutions. I have prototyped Leaflet and it is looking promising, but I have a few problems. One problem is that when I am completely zoomed out, when I swipe left, the image jumps from the left side of the screen to the right side of the scree
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[07:11:59] <Paul10185> ... You can see a repro of this on another site: http://xkcd-map.rent-a-geek.de/#1/5/159 ... just drag that image to the left and you'll see that it pops up on the right side of the page.
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[07:53:01] <Paul10185> Is there a log of this channel somewhere?
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[07:55:37] <psha[work]> logger[psha]: .
[07:55:47] <psha[work]> Paul10185: ^^
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[07:56:42] <Paul10185> Thanks! If I get disconnected I'll check back there to see if my question was answered.
[07:57:48] <psha[work]> and what was your question? :)
[07:58:09] <psha[work]> ah, found
[07:58:39] <psha[work]> i guesst it's world wrap
[08:00:42] <Paul10185> yeah, can I disable world wrap?
[08:02:15] <psha[work]> try setting noWrap
[08:02:20] <psha[work]> in tilelayer options
[08:02:33] <psha[work]> or continousWorld
[08:02:52] <Paul10185> I have played with both of those settings... unfortunately in all 4 cases, I don't get the behavior I'm looking for.
[08:03:25] <psha[work]> what you get and what you want?
[08:03:46] <Paul10185> noWrap set to true prevents the image from visually repeating across the screen... which is good... but when I drag the image to the left it still pops up on the right
[08:04:31] <Paul10185> ideally, I'd like to make it so that when you can see the whole world or push up on the edge of the image, it just stops
[08:04:46] <Paul10185> or does a nice little bounce back effect
[08:05:23] <psha[work]> heh, then you need to implement it yourself :)
[08:05:32] <Paul10185> that's what I was afraid of :-)
[08:05:49] <Paul10185> and changing continuousWorld doesn't seem to make any noticeable difference... not sure if there is a bug in there
[08:06:16] <Paul10185> is the non-minified source for the library hosted somewhere?
[08:06:39] <psha[work]> sure
[08:06:45] <psha[work]> on github
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[08:21:13] <Paul10185> next question... all of my "maps" are really just images that 2450x1740... is there are a way that I can use pixels as coordinates instead of trying to map them to lat/long coordinates?
[08:37:25] <psha[work]> yes
[08:37:36] <psha[work]> use correct coordinate system
[08:37:41] <psha[work]> not mercator
[08:38:52] <Paul10185> I don't follow... Do you have a sample? or a snippet of code by chance?
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[08:42:18] <Paul10185> Should I be using: L.Projection.LonLat
[08:44:42] <Paul10185> Or L.CRS.Simple?
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[09:23:41] <psha[work]> Paul10185: simple
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[10:43:21] <jaj> Paul10185: do you use imageoverlay for your maps?
[10:43:31] <jaj> or have you generated a tileset?
[10:43:39] <Paul10185> I have generated a tileset
[10:43:44] <Paul10185> since the images are quite large
[10:43:53] <Paul10185> they don't pan well on mobile devices
[10:44:30] <jaj> ok, I think I will have to do the same thing
[10:44:47] <jaj> I already have a map in form of tiles, however the individual tiles are very large
[10:45:05] <jaj> I think I will have to fuse them into one big image and then generate a tileset from there
[10:47:12] <jaj> the individual tiles are jpeg files of about 1MB and are about 1000px large
[10:47:39] <jaj> I don't know if I can just use them as-is with imageoverlay
[10:49:07] <psha[work]> jaj: 1kx1k tiles are just fine
[10:49:28] <jaj> I only have one zoom level anyway
[10:50:15] <jaj> psha[work]: so you would go for imageoverlay?
[10:51:19] <psha[work]> no
[10:51:32] <Paul10185> for reference my tiles are about 2950x1740 and mobile Safari doesn't like that... we've had acceptable performance with 1024x1024
[10:51:34] <psha[work]> tiles
[10:51:53] <psha[work]> Paul10185's tiles are huge, 1kx1k - fine
[10:52:37] <psha[work]> jaj: may you show example image?
[10:52:46] <psha[work]> why it's so large - 1mb?
[10:53:34] <jaj> oh wait, actually I underestimated the size with 1k, they are also huge
[10:53:41] <jaj> 3 540px × 2 360px actually
[10:54:12] <psha[work]> so - shred them into parts
[10:54:21] <psha[work]> probably we need some sort of 'tile-image-overlay'
[10:54:31] <psha[work]> that scales up
[10:55:29] <jaj> and then once shred into parts, if I want to use them with imageoverlay I will have to specify the coordinates manually in js? the alternative is to use maptiler to create a tileset, is that correct?
[10:56:34] <psha[work]> yes
[10:56:43] <psha[work]> tileset is much more simple to setup
[10:57:12] <jaj> but to create a tileset I need to merge my individual tiles first, right?
[11:00:34] <jaj> hmm no looks like I can add them individually to maptiler
[11:02:18] <psha[work]> have not used maptiler
[11:02:33] <jaj> how do you create tilesets?
[11:02:37] <psha[work]> gdal
[11:03:40] <psha[work]> what's your images?
[11:03:43] <psha[work]> jpeg or geotiff?
[11:03:48] <psha[work]> or it's just CRS.Simple?
[11:05:05] <jaj> jpeg
[11:05:17] <jaj> with no coordinate system
[11:05:25] <psha[work]> sort of indoor maps?
[11:05:33] <jaj> no, outdoor
[11:05:55] <jaj> it's a bit special, it maps the underground, caves etc. of a city
[11:06:11] <psha[work]> so they bound to real coordinates?
[11:06:15] <jaj> yes
[11:06:17] <psha[work]> s/they/they are/
[11:06:26] <psha[work]> do you have .map files for them?
[11:06:31] <jaj> no
[11:06:32] <psha[work]> ozi-style?
[11:06:43] <psha[work]> so how you bind them to the map?
[11:06:59] <jaj> actually, the jpeg images are scanned from paper maps
[11:07:14] <psha[work]> simpliest way is to create .map files, create .vrt that references all that files and run gdal2tiles
[11:07:29] <jaj> well I don't really need to bind them to the map, I just want to view them on they're own
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[11:07:57] <jaj> but later I guess I could link them to an openstreetmap layer I guess
[11:08:08] <jaj> I don't know about .map files and .vrt
[11:08:29] <psha[work]> .map file is a simple way to provide georeference for an image
[11:08:33] <jaj> Iok
[11:08:58] <psha[work]> it's used in OziExplorer for example
[11:09:06] <jaj> I can spot special points on the map which I can link to openstreetmap / google maps and get the coordinates this way
[11:09:30] <psha[work]> it just tells you which points of image are gcp and their coordinates
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[11:10:12] <jaj> so you give x/y pixel positions and you say that they correspond to latitude/longitude?
[11:10:18] <psha[work]> yes
[11:10:19] <psha[work]> sort of
[11:10:38] <jaj> ok, that's pretty cool
[11:10:58] <psha[work]> however there is some syntactic shug^H^Hit
[11:11:20] <jaj> ok I will see about that
[11:12:35] <jaj> btw, if I have 2 layers in leaflet with maps which are of different scale, will leaflet scale the layers so that they correspond nicely?
[11:13:05] <psha[work]> scale?
[11:14:27] <jaj> well if I have 2 layers, both layers have only 1 zoom level and on one layer the scale is 1:1000 and on the other it's 1:100000, what will it do?
[11:15:37] <psha[work]> depends on layers - for vector they both will be scaled to current zoom level
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[11:15:54] <psha[work]> and for imageoverlay
[11:16:05] <psha[work]> for tile layers
[11:16:13] <psha[work]> it will try to load them at current zoom
[11:16:32] <jaj> it won't scale them?
[11:17:04] <jaj> as in scale the raster image using an image manipulation library on the fily
[11:17:06] <jaj> *fly
[11:19:14] <psha[work]> no, it won't scale - it's just a userside browser library :)
[11:20:13] <log_ybon> Does anyone as already used the markercluster plugin with some "asynchrone load of only visible markers" strategy ?
[11:22:14] <log_ybon> by the way, if someone can point me to a good algorithm to "async load of only visible markers" which does not reload already loaded markers, it could help me... :)
[11:24:53] <psha[work]> log_ybon: tilelayer
[11:24:56] <psha[work]> subclass it
[11:26:35] <log_ybon> psha[work]: but when you zoom, you load new tiles, and so the markers will be reloaded?
[11:26:50] <log_ybon> well, new tiles will loaded almost?
[11:27:08] <psha[work]> yes, you load new tiles and unload old
[11:27:54] <log_ybon> I understand, but so I need to make some array of already loaded markers not to reload them when user zoom
[11:29:11] <psha[work]> sort of reference count is needed
[11:29:21] <psha[work]> to reduce tearing
[11:29:35] <log_ybon> ( btw I was looking at this : https://gist.github.com/1716010 )
[11:30:19] <psha[work]> same thing
[11:31:08] <log_ybon> yes, and thanks for confirming this is a good option :)
[11:31:13] <log_ybon> I'll dig on it
[11:31:20] <psha[work]> but your case is much more simple - you don't need to draw everything yourself
[11:31:57] <psha[work]> and thus you need to subclass TileLayer, not TileLayer.Canvas
[11:33:06] <log_ybon> oh, yes, and clustermarker has a DuplicateAddTesting that can help me
[11:39:04] <log_ybon> (well, I also need deduplicating not to rerequest markers to the server...)
[11:40:41] <psha[work]> it's better to rerequest
[11:40:44] <psha[work]> for example if you zoom-out
[11:40:47] <b_b> you can use tilestache to generate tiled json log_ybon
[11:40:57] <psha[work]> you had one tile
[11:41:02] <b_b> i've forker this layer
[11:41:04] <b_b> https://gist.github.com/2479540
[11:41:16] <b_b> to make it compatible with leaflet 0.4
[11:41:21] <psha[work]> and now your tile holds 4 previous tiles
[11:41:25] <b_b> and to put a real world example
[11:41:55] <b_b> examples here : http://tiles.kupaia.fr/
[11:42:51] <b_b> another example here : http://tiles.kupaia.fr/demos/continents.html
[11:43:29] <psha[work]> cool
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[11:44:03] <ybon> b_b: nice, really interesting! :)
[11:44:23] <b_b> i'd like to make a real plugin of this canvas layer
[11:44:49] <ybon> b_b: you used markercluster also for taxynomes, right?
[11:44:50] <b_b> maybe if i had a time for it next weeks
[11:44:55] <b_b> yes ybon
[11:45:06] <b_b> it works great
[11:45:14] <b_b> i was using the ohter cluster before
[11:45:18] <b_b> for this map
[11:45:37] <b_b> http://www.geodiversite.net/spip.php?page=carte
[11:45:46] <ybon> b_b: but not clustermarker AND tiled json with tilestache ?
[11:45:54] <b_b> but i've used the "official" cluster for taxinomes
[11:46:07] <b_b> no ybon
[11:46:13] <ybon> ok
[11:46:14] <b_b> not tested yet
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[14:34:17] <moonlite_> Hey!
[14:35:12] <moonlite_> Does anyone here have experience working with Proj4js? (more than just hooking a map up with proj4leaflet)
[14:37:04] <moonlite_> I'm experimenting with some refactoring of the API since i find it clunky and unintuitive to work with, and was wondering if anyone here has any input on what should be changed / preserved.
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[18:53:01] <ybon> b_b: I guess you are proxying this kind of request not to hit the crossdomain policies: http://tiles.kupaia.fr/demos/tiles.py/taxinomes/7/62/43.geojson ?
[18:53:37] <b_b> allowed origin: * ybon :)
[18:53:50] <ybon> ah :)
[18:54:03] <ybon> but so it doesn't work with all the browser?
[18:54:09] <ybon> or I'm missing something?
[18:54:14] <b_b> i think it does
[18:54:21] <ybon> oh yes?
[18:54:27] <b_b> you have to put this header on the host
[18:55:07] <ybon> ok
[18:55:30] <ybon> does tilestache can be configured to add custom headers?
[18:55:37] <b_b> yes
[18:55:41] <ybon> nice
[18:55:49] <ybon> I'll have a look on the doc for this
[18:55:49] <b_b> my tilestache config is available here...
[18:55:51] <ybon> thanks :)
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[18:56:18] <b_b> http://tiles.kupaia.fr/spip.php?page=tilestache.cfg
[18:56:39] <b_b> it's generated by spip (a cms)
[18:56:59] <ybon> (yes, I know Spip, while I'm more on the python side)
[18:57:04] <ybon> (I know Fil)
[18:57:13] <b_b> ha great :)
[18:57:31] <b_b> i know him too :p
[18:57:42] <b_b> was at his hom during jully
[18:57:47] <b_b> "home"
[18:57:55] <ybon> for the Spip sprint I guess?
[18:58:14] <b_b> yes, and for the a birthday of a spip team member too
[18:58:22] <ybon> héhé, ok :)
[18:58:48] <ybon> I'm in contact with him for text-mining stuff (https://github.com/yohanboniface/sulci)
[18:59:00] <ybon> (I made some learning with the Monde diplo corpus)
[18:59:27] <b_b> hehe, i'm working for him too :p
[19:00:07] <ybon> :)
[19:00:47] <ybon> "provider": {"name": "vector", "driver": "GeoJSON", "parameters": {"file": "/var/www/tiles.kupaia.fr/IMG/json/taxinomes.json"}, "clipped": false}, <= you have all the data in one big geojson and tilestache use it as backend?
[19:01:20] <b_b> yes
[19:01:26] <ybon> ok
[19:01:38] <b_b> it's one of the options of stache vector layers
[19:02:38] <ybon> I've set my own Provider, because I'm working with a database non PostGIS aware
[19:02:58] <ybon> but making a big geojson could be an option, while the tile are cached
[19:03:16] <ybon> well, the real option is to migrate the database to PostGIS :)
[19:03:58] <b_b> ha ok ybon i see your github repo and your gihub nickname !
[19:04:15] * b_b have jsut seen the github notification
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[19:06:16] <b_b> you are here https://github.com/brunob/followers :)
[19:06:48] <ybon> yes :)
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[20:58:58] <ybon> humm, seems that markercluster, ajax, and big dataset don't get on well easily
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