#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-03-02

[00:00:14] <tjtr33> andypugh, same? https://www.cromwell-industrial.co.uk/international/
[00:00:29] <andypugh> Same company, but useless website
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[00:23:38] <morfic-> good evening
[00:29:04] <morfic-> can i use Vbe(ON) in place of Vbe(sat) to calculate my resistor size for this transistor, my knowledge is wobbly at best, so the data sheet lacking Vbe(sat) has me wonder there.
[00:30:06] <andypugh> Your knowledge seems better than mine, I don't know what any of those mean. I thought transistors were all current-controlled.
[00:30:32] <morfic-> indeed
[00:30:54] <morfic-> but without knowing the voltage i can't calculate the ohm needed to get said current
[00:31:41] <morfic-> I'm just gonna go pretending the answer is Vbe(ON) and (sat) are the same and watch for smoke
[00:41:29] <andypugh> I would guess that "on" was less than "sat"
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[00:43:24] <morfic-> so worst case i'm calculating with too high a voltage and the resistor will be too large and no smoke will happen
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[00:51:57] <morfic-> kuhl
[00:53:18] <morfic-> now i just need a better voltage
[00:55:03] <zeeshan> hey all
[00:55:08] <zeeshan> has anyone done some home renovation here?
[00:55:28] <humble_sea_bass> me
[00:55:41] <zeeshan> is there an easy way to find whether a wall a is load bearing?
[00:55:45] <zeeshan> i have a wall that divides two rooms
[00:55:51] <zeeshan> i want to get rid of the wall so the room is one big one
[00:55:56] <humble_sea_bass> is your house wood?
[00:56:04] <zeeshan> yes
[00:56:11] <zeeshan> typical stud type
[00:56:17] <zeeshan> i believe the studs are 16" apart.
[00:56:29] <humble_sea_bass> can you see into the joists?
[00:56:48] <zeeshan> unfrotunately not
[00:57:00] <zeeshan> i'd have to pull the dry wall off
[00:57:11] <tjtr33> Vbe on vs sat maybe this advise will help http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=478127
[00:57:19] <Jymmm> look in the attic
[00:57:30] <humble_sea_bass> how wide is your house
[00:57:42] <zeeshan> sorry to be ignorant
[00:57:51] <zeeshan> but by width which dimension are you talking about
[00:57:56] <zeeshan> along the same axis as the driveway
[00:58:01] <zeeshan> or perpendicular to the driveway
[00:59:06] <humble_sea_bass> more often than not. joist run left to right on a house
[00:59:20] <zeeshan> i can peak into the attic..
[00:59:23] <zeeshan> if there is nothing above the room
[00:59:27] <zeeshan> then that means its not load bearing?
[00:59:59] <humble_sea_bass> no man. if the wall is sitting smack dab in the middle of your home's width, then odds are it is
[01:00:12] <zeeshan> lemme take some pics.
[01:01:28] <zeeshan> the house 5 years old if that helps
[01:01:31] <zeeshan> uploading the pics
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[01:08:17] <zeeshan> http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p252/turbozee84/5922977C-9D6C-4BC8-80C1-27C7739A515A_zpsqzrcxmnn.jpg
[01:08:21] <zeeshan> http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p252/turbozee84/62511E0C-3BA1-4E4D-997F-632BC08CF70C_zpswj22iozh.jpg
[01:08:24] <zeeshan> this is the wall i want to take out
[01:08:28] <zeeshan> the one separating the two rooms
[01:09:59] <humble_sea_bass> you can't tell anything from this. you need to see the stud config in relation to the joists above
[01:10:15] <zeeshan> i can make a hole in the wall
[01:10:16] <zeeshan> lol
[01:10:26] <zeeshan> say it is load bearing
[01:10:42] <zeeshan> can i still remove the wall partition
[01:10:46] <zeeshan> by making use of a header|
[01:10:54] <zeeshan> (if its load bearing im going to hire someone)
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[01:10:59] <zeeshan> if its not load bearing ill do the work myself
[01:12:55] <humble_sea_bass> it probably is
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[01:50:00] <zeeshan> humble_sea_bass: you there?
[01:50:00] <zeeshan> :)
[01:50:35] <zeeshan> i went into the attic
[01:50:47] <zeeshan> the frame looks like this
[01:50:52] <zeeshan> http://www.inspectionlibrary.com/images/truss.gif
[01:50:54] <zeeshan> a howe truss
[01:54:14] <humble_sea_bass> you may be ok then
[01:54:39] <humble_sea_bass> that wall isn't sitting under the middle plate righjt
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[01:58:11] <zeeshan> no
[01:58:19] <zeeshan> pretty damn sure its not
[01:58:41] <zeeshan> i mean the whole point of a truss structural is to distribute the weight to the ends
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[02:02:14] <archivist> wall may be a shear member in the vertical plane for wind load
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[02:14:33] <humble_sea_bass> if there is doubt, add top plate with supports at the ends, you;ll be happy with a bigger room and you have peace of mind
[02:15:36] <humble_sea_bass> http://www.thevennumhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/header.jpg
[02:16:22] <morfic-> cool, no smoke, outputs work, just need to connect more stuff and look at "off"
[02:16:45] <zeeshan> hunmber
[02:16:53] <zeeshan> humble_sea_bass: so basically a header
[02:16:58] <zeeshan> makes sense. :)
[02:17:04] <humble_sea_bass> yeap
[02:17:38] <morfic-> i think that header looks more comforting than "it'll be aight
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[02:17:55] <tjtr33> 1790 page pdf! just wanted to see if starch based foam had been extruded http://wiki.labomedia.org/images/a/a5/A_History_of_RepRap_Development.pdf
[02:18:04] <humble_sea_bass> worst case scenario with a good header you have a spot to hang a pullup bar and/or sex swing
[02:18:28] <zeeshan> LOL
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[07:54:36] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[07:55:19] <MrSunshine_> morning
[08:00:45] <archivist> moaning
[08:01:02] <MrSunshine_> even better =)
[08:01:13] <MrSunshine_> atleast if its the good kind ;)
[08:01:30] <Jymmm> moaning and being on irc at the same time, is NOT a good thing.
[08:01:45] <MrSunshine_> hahahahahahahaha
[08:01:48] <MrSunshine_> can be
[08:02:12] <Jymmm> No, it can't. Not even in a freaky kinky world!
[08:02:37] <MrSunshine_> you got to think under the table
[08:03:06] <Jymmm> Under the table, on the table, in the back seat, it doesn't matter.
[08:03:18] <Jymmm> Not on irc, skype maybe.
[08:03:46] <MrSunshine_> :P
[08:04:00] * Jymmm is just not into ascii pr0n.
[08:04:21] <Jymmm> ...not even if it's animated!
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[08:05:19] <Deejay> moin
[08:05:35] <Jymmm> Deejay: You're late.... YOUR FIRED!
[08:05:40] <Deejay> lol
[08:05:45] <Deejay> hi Jymmm :)
[08:05:52] <Jymmm> Deejay: how ya doin?
[08:05:59] <Deejay> fine, tnx. and you?
[08:06:08] <Jymmm> SSDD =)
[08:06:24] <Deejay> what does that mean?
[08:06:39] <Jymmm> SSDD = Same shit, different day.
[08:06:43] <Deejay> hrhr
[08:06:44] <Deejay> i see
[08:06:53] <Loetmichel> s/d/e
[08:07:03] <Deejay> morning Loetmichel
[08:07:05] <Loetmichel> (EVERY day) ;)
[08:07:40] <Loetmichel> Deejay: you're late. but morning :-)
[08:07:44] <Deejay> Loetmichel, did your wife throw you out of your bed?
[08:07:49] <Loetmichel> sort of
[08:07:51] <Deejay> hrhr
[08:07:57] <Deejay> hey, its sunday
[08:08:10] <Loetmichel> she is watching true blood
[08:08:15] <Loetmichel> so i have fled ;-)
[08:08:20] <Deejay> lol
[08:09:06] <Loetmichel> at least its not twilight ;-)
[08:09:21] <Deejay> :)
[08:11:02] * Loetmichel is starting the mill
[08:11:22] <Deejay> for the bitcoin miner enclosure?
[08:11:30] <Deejay> or casing
[08:11:34] <Deejay> or cooling
[08:11:37] <Deejay> or whatever it is ;)
[08:11:55] <Loetmichel> to make heatsinks for antminer U1s out of 7075 seems to be a bit over the top, but i have no cheap aluminium here ;-)
[08:12:18] <Deejay> ah, the good 7075
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[08:42:27] <morfic-> if a 4017 IC let's me enable outputs in sequence if i use a push button as "clock signal", which IC would let me do this "additive", with each clock going high, I'd like the outputs to do this: 1, 1+2, 1+2+3, 1+2+3+4 instead of the 1, 2, 3, 4 I'm getting out of the decade counter 4017
[08:43:26] <morfic-> preferably also with a reset to turn them all off before starting over
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[08:45:24] <archivist> either use the 4017 to latch/set some sr flipflops(with a global clr) or a tiny programmable device
[08:45:47] <archivist> PIC Chip etc
[08:45:50] <Loetmichel> morfic-: us a bunch of diodes to connect down the outputs
[08:45:53] <Loetmichel> -> done
[08:46:14] <morfic-> trying to avoid programmables
[08:46:32] <Loetmichel> using a µc would be the simple thing, though
[08:46:55] <archivist> aaaaargh uino
[08:47:01] <Loetmichel> its a little three liner in basic and a programmer for less than 10 bucks ;-)
[08:47:03] <morfic-> Loetmichel: I'd have to also limit current at 4x4mA i am over the 10mA the 4017 can do
[08:47:15] <archivist> TTL
[08:48:15] <archivist> use a resetable shift register
[08:48:19] <morfic-> Loetmichel: programmable is a spook word i'm afraid, not for me as it's just something to learn and would open so many possibilities, and likely be smaller in the end
[08:48:29] <archivist> shift ones in with the clock
[08:50:03] <archivist> 74164
[08:50:10] <morfic-> archivist: 74LS175N might do what i want, all other SR looked awful complicated with clock, data, latch
[08:50:19] <morfic-> checking 74164, thanks
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[08:52:54] <archivist> you can also add them in series for as many outputs as needed
[08:53:14] <morfic-> 8 would be plenty, as i would use 3 or 4 only
[08:53:32] <morfic-> i'm gonna look at your 4017 + flipflop too
[08:54:13] <morfic-> just looks like part wise something programmable starts to be smaller already
[08:54:58] <archivist> 164 is one part
[08:55:37] <archivist> has all the control pins you need
[08:56:15] <morfic-> i guess i was more talking about 4017+flipflop ("parts i already have")
[08:56:24] <archivist> seems I have some 48 Texas NOS 54LS164J
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[09:00:29] <morfic-> i could see if i have room to use these flip flops i have to do it over the weekend, then get some 164 during the week or heck, do it with something programmable, would likely come in handy sooner or later anyway
[09:02:30] <morfic-> archivist: i liked the wide input voltage range of the 4017
[09:17:50] <morfic-> oh well, i can drop the voltage easy enough, thanks archivist
[09:17:56] <morfic-> good night
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[09:31:04] <Loetmichel> morfic-: i made a 2*1W audio amp lately. on which the sole porupose of the µc on board is for getting 3 momentary switches and light up some leds and put out a variable voltage for the amps
[09:31:13] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14507&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
[09:31:23] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14504
[09:31:39] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14501
[09:31:45] <Loetmichel> (missing the controller)
[09:31:58] <Loetmichel> ... the program in there was about 10 lines in bascom ;-)
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[09:32:43] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14492&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 <. can you imagine how complex the circuit would have been with ttl?
[09:33:11] <Loetmichel> (and all that because soldiers tend to break off any protunding knob ;-)
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[12:21:47] <Loetmichel> I am making progress... no i just have to make 3 more of this and then 4 more of the other side and then i can grossly overclock the ants! -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14716
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[13:59:12] <PetefromTn_> Good Morning LinuxCNC junkies!!
[14:00:23] <jthornton> is breakfast ready yet?
[14:01:57] <PetefromTn_> workin' on it LOL..
[14:03:53] <PetefromTn_> I'm thinking waffles..
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[14:10:46] <PetefromTn_> http://player.vimeo.com/video/65863381 for your morning viewing pleasure.. No affiliation with it but I enjoyed the video...
[14:20:11] <jthornton> I'm a bit short this week can you lend me enough to get two of them?
[14:21:31] <PetefromTn_> LOL I hear ya man. I would love to have one tho. Looks awesome.
[14:21:42] <PetefromTn_> I cannot believe how quickly it can takeoff...
[14:23:13] <jthornton> yea it has some awesome STOL
[14:23:39] <jthornton> I have a bunch of Spyder Lovers wanting my new air filter assembly!!!
[14:23:48] <PetefromTn_> Damn must be nice...
[14:23:59] <PetefromTn_> I need to find something like that to make.
[14:24:13] <jthornton> you have to invent it first lol
[14:24:13] <PetefromTn_> are you machining them on your bridgie?
[14:24:21] <PetefromTn_> I am working on it.
[14:24:43] <PetefromTn_> I am designing a couple things right now..
[14:24:51] <jthornton> I farmed the machining out to my buddy, the 8" diameter turned parts are a bit big for me
[14:25:13] <PetefromTn_> problem is ya never know if something will sell or not.
[14:25:14] <jthornton> I need a snap in hub cap for the Spyder front wheels
[14:25:32] <jthornton> with a 3-D spider on it
[14:25:48] <PetefromTn_> are you drawing it up?
[14:25:57] <jthornton> yea, I started slow then spent the money for the ad on spyderlovers.com
[14:26:30] <jthornton> don't have time right now, today I have to take my Spyder apart and take photos of installing the air cleaner assembly
[14:26:58] <PetefromTn_> Those damn things are expensive man..
[14:27:11] <jthornton> and this morning I'm writing a Python script to parse a G code file and add the F word to each line to use with G93
[14:27:56] <PetefromTn_> for what?
[14:27:56] <jthornton> what damn things is that?
[14:28:09] <jthornton> a XZA machine
[14:28:10] <PetefromTn_> the spider bikes...
[14:28:25] <jthornton> yea the 2013's are cheap now
[14:28:33] <PetefromTn_> define cheap..
[14:28:50] <jthornton> the 2014 has a new engine and tranny so the 2013 value fell through the floor
[14:29:20] <jthornton> well they cost a lot less than they did a few months ago
[14:29:35] <jthornton> and it depends on the model what the price is
[14:30:16] <jthornton> the RS starts at 15k
[14:30:18] <PetefromTn_> I love those T-rex trikes..Awesome performance.
[14:30:26] <jthornton> http://can-am.brp.com/spyder/spyder.html
[14:30:38] <jthornton> and the T-rex has AC?
[14:31:19] <PetefromTn_> what the hell do you need AC for?
[14:31:46] <jthornton> when your stuck in traffic and it's 100f out there
[14:31:59] <PetefromTn_> If you are doing that then you are doing it wrong hehe
[14:32:55] <PetefromTn_> I have owned over a dozen different sportbikes and that only happened to me maybe like ten times...
[14:33:19] <PetefromTn_> We usually would just split the lane and get the hell outta there..
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[14:47:19] <seltecc> hi everyone..I would like to upgrade to linuxcnc 2.6 but synaptics says "could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade"...I have just installed 10.04 fresh. some ideas?
[14:48:15] <seltecc> depends: libboost-python etc.
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[15:12:09] <JT-Shop> 10.04 as in the LinuxCNC LiveCD?
[15:12:45] <JT-Shop> seltecc, http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/
[15:12:57] <JT-Shop> use the buildbot if you want master installed
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[15:31:31] <JT-Shop> PetefromTn_, kinda hard to split a lane with a trike lol
[15:32:49] <seltecc> I have tryed to integrate the deb line on that page and still it misses dependencies
[15:33:28] <seltecc> on buildbot....
[15:35:02] <JT-Shop> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Installing_LinuxCNC#Resolving_outstanding_build_dependencies
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[15:40:04] <PetefromTn_> JT-Shop Yeah I know I was just bustin your chops hehe
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[15:43:07] <JT-Shop> I can do that on the BlueWing :) but I don't
[15:43:59] <seltecc> thx, do ya think the"Reconfiguring LinuxCNC" section should solve the prob?
[15:44:03] <PetefromTn_> in Cali it was legal..
[15:47:16] <seltecc> JT: yes from liveCD
[15:48:02] <seltecc> ok, thx and bye for now...
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[16:03:34] <PetefromTn_> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=599774673438521 WOW that is kickass yet OT hehe
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[16:08:37] <JT-Shop> someone around here has one of these http://www.motortrike.com/trikethoroughbredstallion.aspx
[16:09:30] <archivist> miss0r, what latency numbers did you get
[16:10:36] <miss0r> I got 43434 with the 1ms and 21586 with the 25us
[16:11:05] <archivist> a bit rubbish see http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TroubleShooting
[16:11:32] <miss0r> as in: "the numbers suck" or as in "The numbers make no sense" ?
[16:11:42] <archivist> suck a bit
[16:12:10] <miss0r> also, the max int for 23us is 46488 - which is bad, imo
[16:12:14] <miss0r> 25us*
[16:12:48] <PetefromTn_> JT-Shop Yeah there is a fellow here that has one and has had it for sale on Craigslist.
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[16:14:05] <JT-Shop> must not like it then
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[16:14:40] <miss0r> archivist, Question is - should I just see if I have another computer laying around?
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[16:14:51] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[16:14:56] <archivist> or change the video card
[16:15:20] <IchGuckLive> Matrox G450
[16:15:22] <archivist> remove or sideline any nvidia
[16:15:29] <miss0r> archivist, I believe it is onboard
[16:15:49] <archivist> plug one in pci to shut that one off
[16:16:18] <archivist> one needs to avoid video stealing ram time too
[16:16:37] <miss0r> hmmm. I will see what I have laying around. I am fiddling with the bios right now, to shut down stuff I don't need
[16:17:04] <miss0r> will disabeling the sound help anything?
[16:17:14] <IchGuckLive> miss0r: where in the world are ypou
[16:17:27] <miss0r> IchGuckLive, In Denmark. Why you ask?
[16:17:34] <IchGuckLive> im n germany
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[16:17:57] <IchGuckLive> so why dident you get a simple pc fior 40Euros
[16:18:03] <IchGuckLive> thar runs perfect
[16:18:16] <IchGuckLive> fujitsu 5915 ,5925
[16:18:34] <IchGuckLive> or i use IBM A50 for 25Euros
[16:18:41] <miss0r> because I got this PC for 0. Because I had it laying around, and it might have been just fine. it might still be?
[16:18:51] <IchGuckLive> i got more then 80 of them in mashines and no problem
[16:19:16] <miss0r> erhm. this is an fujitsu esprime e5916
[16:19:18] <IchGuckLive> is it a stepper
[16:19:54] <IchGuckLive> i got here 1m left of me 5 5915 with no problem runing
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[16:20:16] <IchGuckLive> did you instal fronm the latest CD
[16:20:37] <miss0r> yes, I downloaded it yesterday and ran a test overnight, and installed it this morning
[16:20:40] <miss0r> from the live cd
[16:20:49] <miss0r> I am just told my numbers are off.
[16:21:00] <miss0r> So, I am thinking I need to do some optimizing.
[16:21:12] <IchGuckLive> ok let me reed the logs so im nor asking twice
[16:22:19] <miss0r> i've written 20 lines in here, within the last 11 minuts. You didn't miss much
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[16:24:05] <Deejay> cya
[16:24:06] <IchGuckLive> oh kiev is ofline psha did got rid of the trouvle i belive
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[16:25:42] <IchGuckLive> someone shoudt tell seltec that i got his problem with the gladevcp fixed he shoudt be around some times later im on 19MEz
[16:26:32] <IchGuckLive> miss0r: s it a stepper mashine
[16:26:38] <miss0r> also: this computer does not have a parallel port, so I have ordered this controller: http://www.computersalg.dk/produkt/425996/io-delock-pci-karte-2x-parallel
[16:27:08] <IchGuckLive> no problem will work but there is a paralellport inside
[16:27:10] <miss0r> yes, it is a stepper machine - it will arrive next sometime next week, and I just want to make sure the computer is optimal
[16:27:20] <IchGuckLive> you need only a plug for 1Euro
[16:27:44] <IchGuckLive> with this numbers you coudt easy come on 5m/min
[16:27:50] <IchGuckLive> i use 60000
[16:28:12] <IchGuckLive> what is your planed scale
[16:28:35] <miss0r> planned scale? sorry, this is my first attempt at using any sort of cnc machine
[16:28:36] <IchGuckLive> so prcise 0.01mm or lower
[16:29:02] <miss0r> well, the chinese model I ordered is probally 0.05mm or something in that order
[16:29:17] <IchGuckLive> oh its already made CNC
[16:29:21] <miss0r> and it is with a stepper moter.
[16:29:23] <miss0r> indeed
[16:29:31] <IchGuckLive> i hope not with the TB6560 board
[16:29:43] <miss0r> hmm... it is a 3020t
[16:29:49] <IchGuckLive> ok
[16:30:10] <miss0r> I bought one exactly like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-NEW-CNC-3020T-Router-Engraver-Engraving-Drilling-and-Milling-Machine-/141205770096?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20e0850f70
[16:30:49] <miss0r> I am planning to use it for circuit milling - as I am really tired of etching that stuff
[16:31:27] <IchGuckLive> ok i see so why are yo going linuxcnc not the ready made mach ?
[16:31:54] <IchGuckLive> miss0r: http://foengarage.de/cnc4.jpg 1200mm/min
[16:32:04] <IchGuckLive> http://foengarage.de/pcb.jpg
[16:32:07] <miss0r> I was told to do it right the first time :)
[16:32:12] <IchGuckLive> this is the circuit milling
[16:32:37] <miss0r> looks nice
[16:32:56] <IchGuckLive> you dont need to do anything with the PC it will be alwrigt for your needc
[16:33:19] <IchGuckLive> all perfect jut hit the plub and stepconf will do the rest
[16:33:45] <IchGuckLive> stepconf will enter a 100.000 for you
[16:33:57] <miss0r> What would make me want to do anything for my pc? a more precise mill?
[16:34:20] <IchGuckLive> the pricise is on the mashine
[16:34:26] <IchGuckLive> not the pc
[16:34:42] <IchGuckLive> at speeds around 2500mm/min no need
[16:34:46] <miss0r> let me rephrase: Can I utilize the complete precision of the mill with this pc?
[16:35:00] <IchGuckLive> mutch more
[16:35:06] <miss0r> alright then :)
[16:35:24] <IchGuckLive> keep the acceleration down at 120
[16:35:29] <IchGuckLive> and you are done
[16:35:51] <miss0r> hmmm. I fail to see the internal parallel port you are talking about
[16:35:54] <IchGuckLive> use the default L97 config 5000 5000 20000 20000
[16:36:14] <IchGuckLive> isent it a A12 board inside
[16:38:27] <IchGuckLive> you said a 5916 is it a 5616
[16:39:08] <miss0r> indeed 5916
[16:41:43] <IchGuckLive> you are wright no parport inside
[16:42:59] <miss0r> ahh well. I ordered that controller anyhow.
[16:43:12] <IchGuckLive> miss0r: "dmesg | grep par" open a terminal and give it that command
[16:44:18] <IchGuckLive> miss0r: do you speek german
[16:45:03] <miss0r> IchGuckLive, I will do that command when I boot - I am messing with the bios atm. And I do speak a little german, but certainly not enough to do much but order food ;)
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[16:45:42] <IchGuckLive> dont mess up
[16:45:53] <IchGuckLive> only deactivate the Sond
[16:47:16] <miss0r> Don't worrie. I know what I am doing around computers, just not with the linuxcnc software, just yet
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[17:35:50] <aggadaway> hi all, how to go to ABS coordinate 0 with gcode? i need to move z axis up to endstop
[17:36:15] <zeeshan> http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-business-industrial-Tree-Kira-cnc-machining-center-W0QQAdIdZ561927444
[17:36:17] <zeeshan> looking at this machine
[17:36:20] <zeeshan> looks like a beast
[17:36:23] <zeeshan> nice and compact too
[17:36:27] <zeeshan> guy has no price
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[17:42:10] <skunkworks> aggadaway: G53 is machine coordinates...
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[17:44:04] <JT-Shop> aggadaway, http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G53-Move-in
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[17:46:44] <zeeshan> guy wants 15 grand
[17:46:45] <zeeshan> damn it
[17:46:59] <zeeshan> jt-shop how much did you buy your bridgeport machining center for?
[17:47:19] <zeeshan> and on your bridgeport knee mill that you have
[17:47:37] <zeeshan> do you have a r8 or bt30 spindle on it
[17:47:57] <JT-Shop> the 308 cost me 6k the knee mill 10k
[17:48:02] <zeeshan> damn thats cheap for the 308.
[17:48:05] <zeeshan> was it in working condition?
[17:48:07] <JT-Shop> quick switch 200 on the knee mill
[17:48:32] <JT-Shop> yes, but machines were at a premium price level when I got the knee mill
[17:48:36] <zeeshan> sorry im still learning about this stuff
[17:48:54] <JT-Shop> BT30 on the 308
[17:48:54] <zeeshan> when i search for "kwik switch 200"
[17:49:03] <zeeshan> looks like a non r8 type of taper
[17:49:12] <JT-Shop> it's not r8
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[17:49:30] <JT-Shop> it's more like BT and Cat but without the pull stud
[17:49:33] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/matsuura/matsuura.JPG
[17:49:35] <zeeshan> ahhh
[17:49:50] <zeeshan> skunkworks theres one almost exactly like that
[17:49:52] <zeeshan> locally for sale
[17:50:00] <zeeshan> http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-business-industrial-CNC-Vertical-Machining-Center-Matsuura-MC-500V2-W0QQAdIdZ556258505
[17:50:01] <zeeshan> but no price
[17:50:03] <JT-Shop> what is the terminal command to get the kernel in use
[17:50:04] <zeeshan> how much is that worth?
[17:50:32] <skunkworks> uname -a
[17:50:39] <JT-Shop> thanks Sam
[17:50:49] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: I often see similar on ebay for $2500 and up
[17:51:02] <skunkworks> zeeshan: we got it in unknown condition for 1500
[17:51:11] <skunkworks> it is probably a steel
[17:51:11] <zeeshan> i messaged the person
[17:51:12] <zeeshan> to see
[17:51:17] <zeeshan> if he wants less than 5k
[17:51:19] <zeeshan> ill pick it up
[17:51:27] <zeeshan> i only have 5k to burn on cnc stuff
[17:51:43] <zeeshan> its got 4th axis control
[17:51:45] <skunkworks> that has the 4th axis..
[17:51:47] <zeeshan> im not sure if thats standard.
[17:51:52] <JT-Shop> I would not go over 3k for that
[17:52:10] <JT-Shop> #35 taper might be hard to find?? I don't know
[17:52:42] <zeeshan> jt-shop im hoping it comes with a bunch of tool holders
[17:52:51] <zeeshan> cause its an odd taper size
[17:52:54] <JT-Shop> of course that depends on machinery prices in that area
[17:53:04] <skunkworks> JT-Shop: that is what everyone says - but dad now has a decent selection of stuff off of ebay over the last month or two
[17:53:07] <JT-Shop> that would be worth a lot to get tool holders
[17:53:15] <JT-Shop> #35?
[17:53:18] <skunkworks> bt35
[17:53:24] <JT-Shop> oh cool
[17:53:38] <skunkworks> so maybe not as bad as it used to be
[17:53:39] <JT-Shop> I got my kwik switch 200 tooling from flea bay
[17:53:59] <zeeshan> jt-shop is it possible to convert r8 to bt30 or kwik switch 200
[17:54:04] <zeeshan> relatively easily?
[17:54:17] <CaptHindsight> yeah fleaby for tool holders, I saw bt35 for ~$25ea
[17:54:20] <zeeshan> it's just a spindle change right?
[17:54:35] <JT-Shop> for a BP knee mill you can find the spindle for kwik switch 200 sometimes
[17:54:45] <JT-Shop> aye, just change the spindle
[17:54:48] <zeeshan> i have a clone
[17:55:04] <zeeshan> i contacted the manufacturer and apparently a nst30 taper spindle costs $350
[17:55:10] <zeeshan> and nst40 is about the same
[17:55:20] <zeeshan> i mean if that's all that's needed, i rather convert my machine
[17:55:24] <zeeshan> cause i got it for dirt cheap
[17:55:36] <zeeshan> they also offer x and y ball screws with ball nuts for $1500
[17:56:04] <zeeshan> what i can never get is the 8,500lb the matsuura has
[17:56:09] <zeeshan> so i'm first inquiring about that :)
[17:56:11] <skunkworks> zeeshan: it is always better to convert something already cnc
[17:56:17] <zeeshan> skunkworks: why
[17:56:31] <JT-Shop> I love having more than 4" of Z on the VMC
[17:56:34] <zeeshan> cause you already have ATC? ball screws? :D
[17:56:47] <skunkworks> you have all the stuff - ball screws, olilers, atc and wiring
[17:56:48] <zeeshan> JT-Shop: i'd be powering the knee if i convert mine
[17:56:49] <skunkworks> right
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[17:57:10] <zeeshan> honestly ive been converting the lathe from scratch
[17:57:16] <zeeshan> and it hasn't been too bad at all
[17:57:29] <zeeshan> but for a mill i'd like to mill inconel parts from time to time
[17:57:33] <CaptHindsight> skunkworks: did you get more snow again last night?
[17:57:35] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[17:57:35] <JT-Shop> even my BP knee mill with kwik switch spindle is way better than an R8 one
[17:57:36] <zeeshan> so i want an extremely rigid machine. at least 6000lb
[17:57:47] <zeeshan> JT-Shop: i believe you!
[17:57:50] <IchGuckLive> zeeshan: dident work you pout with most medals in sotchie
[17:57:53] <skunkworks> CaptHindsight: not much
[17:57:59] <skunkworks> inch or so
[17:58:01] <zeeshan> IchGuckLive: haha
[17:58:07] <CaptHindsight> a few here
[17:58:11] <skunkworks> -5f
[17:58:11] <JT-Shop> the only thing I hate is the head moves if you put a little pressure on it with the Z
[17:58:22] <JT-Shop> then is it tram city time again
[17:58:40] <JT-Shop> but I'm really fast tramming the head with all that experience lol
[17:58:45] <zeeshan> haha
[17:58:50] <zeeshan> what the head tilts to the side
[17:58:51] <zeeshan> a bit?
[17:59:07] <zeeshan> get rid of the drive mechanism and weld the head!
[17:59:08] <zeeshan> :P
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[18:00:20] <zeeshan> i really hope the matsurra is under 5k
[18:00:31] <zeeshan> knowing local prices, its prolly around 10k
[18:00:45] <JT-Shop> yuck sleet
[18:00:58] <IchGuckLive> zeeshan: why dont you go for a Haas vf3
[18:01:05] <JT-Shop> it's a nod and tilt head
[18:01:10] <IchGuckLive> this are most comen mashines in the USA
[18:01:17] <zeeshan> too much $$
[18:01:22] <zeeshan> they typically go for 25k locally
[18:01:22] <CaptHindsight> currently 2 Matuura 500's on ebay for $5500 or best in AZ
[18:01:27] <IchGuckLive> all Bike builders have this
[18:01:47] <zeeshan> vf3 is still sold
[18:01:51] <zeeshan> for 70k brand new
[18:01:57] <zeeshan> so you'll never find it cheaper than 25k
[18:02:00] <IchGuckLive> we got about 100 VF in use at torance CA at edelbrooks
[18:02:03] <zeeshan> (at least locally)
[18:02:11] <CaptHindsight> Matsuura 710V near NYC for $3500
[18:03:17] <zeeshan> 710 wont fit in garage
[18:03:20] <zeeshan> looks like a huge machine!
[18:03:33] <zeeshan> but that nyc one has 2 kurt vises
[18:03:34] <CaptHindsight> how high is your garage?
[18:03:36] <zeeshan> theyre worth 2k lol
[18:03:42] <IchGuckLive> zeeshan: but all big companys are fored to order the EF16 insteed so they will flood the second hand market
[18:03:50] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: 7.5feet
[18:04:13] <CaptHindsight> yeah won't fit without the use of a sawzall on the door and roof
[18:04:20] <zeeshan> haha
[18:04:22] <CaptHindsight> or did a pit
[18:04:26] <CaptHindsight> dig
[18:04:37] <zeeshan> the 500 will fit easily
[18:04:47] <zeeshan> with the z axis down a bit
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[18:12:38] <CaptHindsight> BRIDGEPORT MODEL 308 in CA for $3500
[18:12:51] <CaptHindsight> but shipping would kill the budget
[18:13:08] <CaptHindsight> make offer
[18:14:00] <Loetmichel> sooo, 8 heatsinks done, now the top four have to be milled at the bootom side to accomodate the parts, then i can mount them on the ants.... http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14719
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[18:16:32] <archivist> Loetmichel, you getting paid extra for Sunday work?
[18:16:51] <Loetmichel> thats for my Bitcoin miners
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[18:17:04] <Loetmichel> to overclock them about 150% ;-)
[18:17:10] <archivist> vapour coin
[18:19:53] <CaptHindsight> Loetmichel: http://www2.dupont.com/Vertrel/en_US/uses_apps/heat_transfer.html#.UxN2HJW1zRY
[18:20:27] <CaptHindsight> if they want to go even higher
[18:20:53] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: heatpipes?
[18:20:59] <Loetmichel> for ~3 watts each?
[18:21:03] <Loetmichel> dont think so ;-)
[18:21:11] <CaptHindsight> sell them the pumps and heatexchangers
[18:21:56] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4gYv2BK-HQ is another
[18:23:22] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: http://www.pollin.de/shop/dt/MDU4OTY1OTk-/Bauelemente_Bauteile/Mechanische_Bauelemente/Kuehlkoerper/Kuehlkoerper_FISCHER_SK_68_75_AL.html
[18:27:29] <Loetmichel> IchGuckLive: and that is suppsed to fit HOW on an antminer U1?
[18:28:01] <CaptHindsight> Loetmichel: are they using some ASIC's for the mining?
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[18:29:30] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: sure that
[18:29:49] <Loetmichel> http://miningonmyown.com/2014/01/19/antminer-u1-mod/
[18:29:58] <Loetmichel> will do this in "better"
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[18:30:22] <CaptHindsight> are there any router kits say ~12" x 12" that are made well for under $2K (without motors, spindle or electronics)
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[18:38:15] <IchGuckLive> cap 12 inch or foot
[18:38:41] <IchGuckLive> 2k is realy mutch money
[18:38:54] <CaptHindsight> 12 inch
[18:39:15] <IchGuckLive> 300x300m at that price
[18:39:19] <IchGuckLive> mm
[18:39:31] <CaptHindsight> http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/cnc-router/kl4530-desktop-cnc-router-with-3-motors
[18:39:36] <pcw_home> 300M is a big machine
[18:39:39] <CaptHindsight> so mnay are made like these
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[18:39:54] <IchGuckLive> pcw_home: ;-)
[18:40:00] <IchGuckLive> O.O
[18:40:08] <IchGuckLive> milling ships in one part
[18:40:17] <IchGuckLive> or better rck eater
[18:40:22] <IchGuckLive> rock
[18:40:48] <IchGuckLive> making replika at mount rushmore
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[18:51:13] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: did you look at supermark mills on ebay
[18:51:36] <CaptHindsight> someone asked about finishing up the pick-n-place using Linuxcnc here, but I forget who
[18:51:48] <CaptHindsight> Supermark? I'll look
[18:54:18] <IchGuckLive> carney and trecker 900USD i think the owner had no choice tro sell it
[18:55:24] <IchGuckLive> Caledonia, Illinois
[18:56:02] <IchGuckLive> Troy, Michigan
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[18:56:45] <IchGuckLive> Cincinnati, Ohio
[18:57:33] <CaptHindsight> I need a small table top unit for non-contact
[18:57:34] <IchGuckLive> mashines you will only sell if you past away
[18:57:51] <IchGuckLive> ah ok
[18:57:53] <CaptHindsight> actually ~20
[18:58:09] <IchGuckLive> ok im off bye
[18:58:10] <CaptHindsight> https://tinyurl.com/mdet347
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[19:02:24] <CaptHindsight> the gantry types like the one at automationtechnologiesinc.com don't seem rigid enough
[19:05:05] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/121283252025 how do you bend a lead screw? drop the machine?
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[19:16:26] <seltecc> ich kann in ubuntu 10.04 nicht auf linuxcnc 2.6 upgraden.....
[19:17:06] <CaptHindsight> seltecc: you just missed two native German speakers by a few minutes
[19:19:00] <CaptHindsight> is there a package and repo for 2.6 yet?
[19:20:03] <micges> yes there is
[19:20:29] <micges> (looking...)
[19:20:31] <seltecc> wenn ich so vorgehe wie magic33de in seinem video, dann meldet sich synaptic mit einer fehlermeldung..."coould "
[19:21:00] <micges> http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/
[19:21:32] <seltecc> "could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade"
[19:21:59] <micges> seltecc: follow these steps to add master packages to synaptic
[19:22:16] <micges> master is 2.6
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[19:22:54] <seltecc> its ok... thx....I can communicate in English also....
[19:23:09] <CaptHindsight> good my german is kaput :)
[19:23:25] <seltecc> what steps my friend..?
[19:23:44] <seltecc> no problem !
[19:23:57] <CaptHindsight> it's a dev branch so we have to check
[19:24:22] <CaptHindsight> there is a page about it somewhere
[19:24:54] <CaptHindsight> seltecc: is there something you really need from 2.6?
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[19:25:53] <seltecc> @micges.... I have added the deb line in synaptic sources , but that did not solve the problem...I run the liveCD version of 10.04
[19:27:14] <seltecc> yes, I want to use the sidepanel with direct manipulating the workpiece
[19:28:50] <CaptHindsight> updating from the livecd install directly to 2.5 seems to work well, I haven't tried jumping right to 2.6 yet
[19:30:02] <seltecc> like this guy here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbwMl6fMQfI
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[19:31:16] <pcw_home> Does that package require 2.6?
[19:31:18] <seltecc> cool my friend, but how did you do it, without "depends" errors?
[19:31:57] <seltecc> yes.. it requires the 2.6 version...
[19:32:49] <seltecc> I have also trouble to install Heekscad and or pycam.....
[19:33:11] <CaptHindsight> my ubuntu linuxcnc box is still in my suitcase, if micges can't find the howto I'll unpack it and check
[19:33:51] <seltecc> nice...
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[19:37:01] <seltecc> yes the buildbot is nice, if only it would work on 10.04....?!
[19:38:02] <CaptHindsight> seltecc: deb http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ lucid master-rt
[19:38:02] <CaptHindsight> deb-src http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ lucid master-rt
[19:38:11] <CaptHindsight> did you use those for repos?
[19:39:05] <seltecc> let me check...
[19:39:34] <seltecc> first one, yes...
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[19:40:24] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpdatingTo2.5 follow this only use the 2.6 repos
[19:43:54] <CaptHindsight> and to be clear the 2.6 repos for Lucid 10.04 are deb http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ lucid master-rt
[19:43:54] <CaptHindsight> deb-src http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ lucid master-rt
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[19:44:34] <seltecc> cool, I ll check, thx my friend...
[19:44:47] <CaptHindsight> let us know what happens either way
[19:44:58] <seltecc> sure...
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[19:50:37] <seltecc> your German might be broken, but your mentally a genius.....my friend....!!! Solved !!!
[19:51:17] <seltecc> I am happy, hope your happy too....
[19:51:49] <CaptHindsight> Sie sind herzlich willkommen
[19:52:53] <seltecc> Great, it looks so good....the 2.6
[19:53:12] <CaptHindsight> i have to try it myself now
[19:53:55] <seltecc> sure, there are a bunch of new features included....
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[20:31:01] <Loetmichel> soo, first 2 sets done. next two tomorrow. then change some resistors and voile: overclock to more than double the orignal clock. (hopefully!) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14722
[20:31:04] <Loetmichel> :-)
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[21:08:30] <CaptHindsight> https://tinyurl.com/l5xz3cy yikes! Why so bad? Repeat positioning accuracy 0.01mm, precision 0.02MM
[21:08:42] <CaptHindsight> 1605 precision ball screw
[21:09:14] <CaptHindsight> XY rail diameter 20mm plus hard chrome shaft diameter 16mm Z-axis rail and hard chrome shaft
[21:10:51] <JT-Shop> damn that was fun
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[21:50:08] <CaptHindsight> http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/KL4530B.jpg this explains why, you'd have to rework much of it or at least spend time aligning everything
[21:52:14] <Gamma-X> so, anyone wanna recomend a digitizier? Will be conducted for side work.... not pro but not specificly hobby...
[21:52:27] <Gamma-X> production parts etc and modification for old items.
[21:52:34] <CaptHindsight> what res?
[21:54:11] <CaptHindsight> what size parts?
[21:54:15] <CaptHindsight> what speed?
[21:54:24] <JT-Shop> Lo Gamma-X
[21:54:42] <Gamma-X> heyyy
[21:55:14] <Gamma-X> CaptHindsight, gonna vary for size, rez and speed id like best bang for buck...
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[21:55:49] <JT-Shop> my buddy has one that you move by hand and touch the part then press a button to record the XYZ
[21:55:56] <CaptHindsight> Gamma-X: yes but are you scanning parts up to 3" x 3" x 3" at 0.001" res or parts 10 feet long
[21:56:07] <Gamma-X> CaptHindsight, ohhhh yeah small
[21:56:19] <JT-Shop> Gamma-X, http://gnipsel.com/spyderstore/index.php?route=common/home
[21:56:20] <Gamma-X> maby 20"x20"x20"
[21:56:38] <Gamma-X> most likely using it for alignment of metal on table.
[21:56:59] <Gamma-X> JT-Shop, haha you finally got your baby
[21:57:04] <Gamma-X> howy ou like her?
[21:58:28] <JT-Shop> I've had the Spyder for a year now and now make accessories for them
[21:58:44] <JT-Shop> it's a fun machine... the 2014's are much better
[21:59:02] <JT-Shop> I still have the Goldwing and love riding it too
[21:59:22] <CaptHindsight> Gamma-X: http://www.aniwaa.com/3d-scanners/compare-3d-scanners
[22:00:55] <Gamma-X> CaptHindsight, I want something that will let me align metal on the machine though. point and touch.
[22:01:03] <Gamma-X> JT-Shop, nice work!
[22:01:27] <CaptHindsight> Gamma-X: not quite there yet for Linuxcnc
[22:02:11] <CaptHindsight> somebody was recently updating the camview for interactive manual alignment with a camera
[22:03:18] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Adding_Digital_Zoom_To_Camview-Emc
[22:03:55] <PetefromTn_> Sounds like he is just wanting probing for vise or material setup no?
[22:04:06] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Axis_Embed_Video
[22:04:51] <Gamma-X> PetefromTn_, along with digitizing of a part so i can modify. etc.
[22:05:02] <CaptHindsight> ok, so both
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[22:05:54] <Gamma-X> more so to align material
[22:06:43] <CaptHindsight> one is much more simple than the other
[22:06:49] <JT-Shop> thanks Gamma-X
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[22:07:36] <CaptHindsight> looks like I'm working on finishing up that including pick-n-place
[22:10:55] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-SCARA-Robot-D-Tran-TT-8030-4-Axis-Damaged-Robotic-/291088130023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c6345fe7 no takers yet
[22:11:52] <CaptHindsight> https://tinyurl.com/loptmx3 maybe some JB weld? :)
[22:12:26] <PetefromTn_> man that is cool...
[22:12:49] <Gamma-X> sorry caps
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[22:13:06] <PetefromTn_> Cast aluminum...BITCH to weld...
[22:13:17] <CaptHindsight> worth more than $350 in parts
[22:14:00] <CaptHindsight> if you can machine well squarely you could make another arm
[22:14:12] <PetefromTn_> Man it would be worth it if you had to remake that piece..
[22:14:45] <CaptHindsight> a new Scara that size is >$10K
[22:15:11] <PetefromTn_> how many axes?
[22:15:33] <CaptHindsight> that one is 4
[22:16:05] <PetefromTn_> Looks like the silver piece is cracked too..
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[22:20:02] <CaptHindsight> a ferry trip across the lake for me
[22:20:34] <Gamma-X> call him up
[22:20:42] <Gamma-X> tell him youll give 300 for it
[22:21:14] <CaptHindsight> unfortunately the lake is still frozen this year :(
[22:21:32] <Gamma-X> 50 bucks is a lot of gas though... go for a drive.
[22:21:46] <CaptHindsight> not with my land tank
[22:21:52] <Gamma-X> rent a car! lol
[22:21:55] <Gamma-X> borrow one.
[22:22:04] <Gamma-X> what the hell could u even do with that thing?
[22:22:21] <CaptHindsight> it's good for pick-n-place
[22:22:30] <Gamma-X> how accurate
[22:23:03] <CaptHindsight> that one ~0.002"
[22:23:17] <Gamma-X> you can prolly have a shop weld that up for like 300 bucks... they just gotta bake it..
[22:23:32] <CaptHindsight> if you're within the low end of the load and speed
[22:23:43] <zeeshan> thats easy to fix
[22:23:58] <zeeshan> wanna bring it up to canada for me? :D
[22:23:59] <PetefromTn_> hah.
[22:24:00] <zeeshan> its only 4 hours away
[22:24:22] <zeeshan> you dont need to bake it
[22:24:24] <zeeshan> clean the paint
[22:24:32] <zeeshan> heat it with propane (its aluminum) at least it looks like it
[22:24:37] <zeeshan> and weld away
[22:24:47] <PetefromTn_> it's CAST aluminum..
[22:24:50] <zeeshan> yea
[22:24:53] <zeeshan> i've welded tons of cast aluminum
[22:24:59] <PetefromTn_> and quite porous from the looks of it.
[22:25:08] <zeeshan> transmission housings, oil pans, aluminum brackets
[22:25:12] <zeeshan> most car stuff is cast :P
[22:25:19] <zeeshan> when it comes to aluminum
[22:25:22] <Gamma-X> Very differant.
[22:25:50] <CaptHindsight> 4 hour drive each way
[22:25:56] <zeeshan> will give $! :D
[22:26:00] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: are you in mi?
[22:26:19] <CaptHindsight> nope across the lake
[22:26:25] <zeeshan> http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f152/123104d1244232092-corvette-c5-starter-mount-failure-welding-aluminum-engine-block-brokencastingweb.jpg
[22:26:28] <zeeshan> thats a very common failure
[22:26:35] <zeeshan> the starter mounts break on th cast aluminum block
[22:26:36] <CaptHindsight> there should be a subway under :)
[22:26:38] <zeeshan> ive had to fix that
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[22:27:11] <zeeshan> the worst is chinese cast end plates on intercoolers
[22:27:13] <PetefromTn_> Man I have tig welded lots of cast stuff too but I dunno about that one..
[22:27:18] <zeeshan> they dont have aluminum in there
[22:27:22] <zeeshan> they have SAND!
[22:27:23] <zeeshan> lol
[22:27:37] <CaptHindsight> the starter mount doesn't warp around the stater?
[22:27:42] <CaptHindsight> warp.wrap
[22:27:50] <Gamma-X> when i get home it will be time to finish the programming of my pm45 cnc and then start on my hardinge!
[22:28:10] <PetefromTn_> which Hardinge?
[22:28:19] <Gamma-X> chnc i beleive...
[22:28:32] <Gamma-X> it came with a lathemate controller by anilam.
[22:28:35] <Gamma-X> still runs fine.
[22:28:40] <PetefromTn_> Jeez man am I the only one who does not have an CHNC?
[22:28:55] <CaptHindsight> http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f152/corvette-c5-starter-mount-failure-welding-aluminum-engine-block-74165/
[22:29:06] <Gamma-X> its a gang tool style not chucker
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[22:29:31] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: its fixable :P
[22:30:07] <zeeshan> if you try welding cast aluminum cold
[22:30:09] <zeeshan> it'll never weld
[22:30:32] <zeeshan> and if you let the weld cool down too quick (under ambient)
[22:30:34] <zeeshan> itll crack also
[22:30:35] <zeeshan> :P
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[22:31:00] <zeeshan> man its so hard to type
[22:31:07] <zeeshan> i destroyed my right hand trying to take down a wall
[22:31:13] <zeeshan> damn wood studs
[22:33:09] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3lWKGQuQoc not mine but DIY SCARA with LCNC
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[22:33:51] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight:
[22:33:56] <zeeshan> i really want that robot
[22:34:00] <zeeshan> it would make a good welding robot
[22:34:26] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7llfyKXV7g here's what they usually do
[22:35:15] <Gamma-X> http://imgur.com/a/OdxFj
[22:35:20] <Gamma-X> anyone know what this is?
[22:35:40] <Gamma-X> thats my machine before I bought it. Now its nice and clean. will be repainting once its back in ny.
[22:37:31] <Gamma-X> prolly doin a conversion on it in about a year,,,
[22:37:49] <PetefromTn_> CaptHindsight Hey man that is cool..
[22:38:39] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hardinge-HC-CNC-Chucker-/111290059369?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e9678a69
[22:38:56] <CaptHindsight> $1,800
[22:39:25] <Gamma-X> yeah good price i saw that one
[22:39:37] <Gamma-X> im like 20 mins from that thing haha
[22:39:39] <Gamma-X> its on craigslist.
[22:39:40] <PetefromTn_> Interesting. Why do they call it a SCARA?
[22:39:58] <PetefromTn_> Personally I would want one with the full enclosure..
[22:39:59] <CaptHindsight> Selective Compliance Assembly Robot Arm
[22:40:14] <CaptHindsight> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCARA
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[22:41:39] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: http://www.ebay.com/itm/22-LB-MOTOMAN-YRFL-NND106-6-AXIS-WELDING-ARM-TYPE-ROBOT-23925-/370717144197?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item565076b485
[22:41:52] <zeeshan> beas
[22:41:54] <zeeshan> beast
[22:43:06] <PetefromTn_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKD20BTkXhk
[22:43:47] <zeeshan> hehe
[22:43:50] <PetefromTn_> That thing kicks ass...
[22:44:12] <PetefromTn_> Musta really screwed up to break that arm like that.
[22:44:25] <CaptHindsight> they dropped it during shipping
[22:44:36] <CaptHindsight> so they say...
[22:45:40] <Gamma-X> anyone ever threaded a barrel for a gun?
[22:46:51] <PetefromTn_> yup I have.
[22:47:00] <Gamma-X> you need to take barrel off first?
[22:47:03] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO_8spCu29M it laser mics the parts first then polishes them
[22:47:10] <Gamma-X> or can you do it slow enough to not need to.
[22:48:05] <PetefromTn_> You mean thread the end for a brake or thread the breech end to fit the action?
[22:48:06] <CaptHindsight> it's more for show since the KUKA's are not nearly as accurate as the Staublis
[22:48:31] <Gamma-X> PetefromTn_, Need to thread the end for break
[22:50:27] <PetefromTn_> I guess it depends on the lathe you are using and the action. If you have enough bed length and can set it up properly you could do it. Would be much easier to remove the barrel and do it.
[22:51:06] <PetefromTn_> CaptHindsight That robot grinding is amazing.
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[22:52:18] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: we do similar only with 3D printing, we build and also print onto the surface of non-planar parts
[22:52:41] <tjtr33> CaptHindsight, you lookin for scaras? maybe ebay 170945866375
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[22:53:12] <CaptHindsight> nice
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[22:54:35] <kengu> uuh, nice arms
[22:55:03] <tjtr33> mineral wells, WV
[22:56:23] <CaptHindsight> ebay 351003603773 ADEPT MODEL 840 $500
[22:56:30] <CaptHindsight> or best
[22:56:40] <PetefromTn_> Sure would be fun to have one to play with. I like the drawing and lasering of parts with the scara. I am wondering if the scara is probably a lot easier to program due to the lack of a wrist type axis.
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[22:59:30] <CaptHindsight> www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/16-stepconf-wizard/288-how-to-use-for-configure-an-scara
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[23:00:15] <CaptHindsight> wrong link, SCARA is already in the sample configs
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[23:07:55] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfUlQRkh0jo somebody forgot to spec the wobble on this pick-n-place
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