#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-01-30

[00:00:45] <JT-Shop> I actually have a 20hp but it is 3600 rpm and didn't do well when I tried it
[00:00:55] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop: propane shortage..
[00:01:38] <CHNCguy> mmm you need a very low inertia motor, if you spin it by hand it should spin for a few seconds at least until it stops
[00:01:45] <CHNCguy> inductive motors work best for rpcs
[00:02:04] <CHNCguy> that motor might have bad bearings or not balanced nicely
[00:02:44] <JT-Shop> I guess I don't know the difference what an inductive motor is?
[00:03:07] <CHNCguy> well its the way the motor handles the power and all that
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[00:05:02] <JT-Shop> these are the motors http://www.gnipsel.com/images/motors.jpg
[00:05:21] <JT-Shop> the vertical one is the 20hp well motor
[00:05:25] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop what exactly did you change to get the performance boost?
[00:05:31] <Tom_itx> kinda hard to follow...
[00:05:32] <JT-Shop> the heavy duty frame is the 15hp motor
[00:06:15] <JT-Shop> I turned on my lathe with the gearbox in neutral and the surface grinder motor which are all on the same buss
[00:06:19] <CHNCguy> added the lathe 3ph motor as a boost idler
[00:06:35] <Tom_itx> heh cool
[00:06:43] <JT-Shop> yea, way cool!
[00:06:50] <Tom_itx> guess you need a bigger motor on your inverter now?
[00:07:12] <JT-Shop> yea, need to sell some to make room lol
[00:07:28] <Tom_itx> what's the grey one front center?
[00:07:49] <Tom_itx> looks rather hefty
[00:08:04] <JT-Shop> that's the 15hp
[00:08:19] <JT-Shop> the red one is the heavy one
[00:09:21] <CHNCguy> well, i don't know but, did yo wire the leads to the windings the same? The motor may be wound differently and have different poles and all that
[00:10:36] <CaptHindsight> Automation Direct closed down today since I guess they closed Georgia due to bad weather.
[00:10:46] <JT-Shop> the 20hp only has 3 wires
[00:11:12] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Stop, go, and go real fast?
[00:11:18] <CHNCguy> 3 wires coming out, but there is a main bus below the panel
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[00:11:35] <CaptHindsight> wow, what do they consider bad weather in Ga?
[00:11:39] <CHNCguy> there is probably 12-18 different wound coils to the main bus
[00:12:39] <Tom_itx> CaptHindsight no kidding...
[00:12:46] <JT-Shop> there is no box on the 20hp, just 3 wires coming out of the hole
[00:13:36] <JT-Shop> CHNCguy, the 20hp is a hollow shaft well motor
[00:13:47] <JT-Shop> not your typical motor
[00:14:04] <CHNCguy> ya doesnt sound like an inductive motor, does it say inductive on the side?
[00:16:14] <JT-Shop> I think the other wires were not brought out when someone rewound it as I see the high low connections on another tag
[00:16:38] <JT-Shop> the tag is covered with paint and rather hard to read
[00:17:02] <Tom_itx> take a pic of it and look at it on the pc
[00:17:06] <Tom_itx> that helps alot of times
[00:17:32] <JT-Shop> I rather just find a normal TEFC 20hp motor and get rid of that one
[00:18:00] <CHNCguy> I agree get an elevator motor off ebay cheap
[00:18:00] <JT-Shop> CHNCguy, thanks for the help, I'm off the the house now
[00:18:09] <CHNCguy> your welcome, take care ;)
[00:18:15] <JT-Shop> elevator motor?
[00:18:49] <JT-Shop> I can get motors from a local motor repair shop, I just have to call and find one
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[00:22:26] <JT-Shop> http://www.ebay.com/itm/20HP-Severe-Duty-Reliance-Electric-Motor-/111264709241?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e7e4ba79
[00:22:39] <CHNCguy> Yes usually elevator motors are inductive and make very good rpc IMHo
[00:22:59] <JT-Shop> what is an elevator motor?
[00:23:14] <CHNCguy> A motor used in an elevator ;)
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[00:23:48] <JT-Shop> what makes them different?
[00:23:56] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Submersible-Hydraulic-Pump-Elevator-Motor-20HP-3Phase-3400RPM-NO-RESERVE-/221360096004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338a170304
[00:24:03] <Tom_itx> ?
[00:24:13] <CHNCguy> Nah not that TOM
[00:24:43] <CHNCguy> u need a low rpm, 240 inductive motor, used to run elevators like the ones that go up and down LOL
[00:25:05] <JT-Shop> what is low rpm? 900?
[00:25:09] <CHNCguy> 3k
[00:25:16] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Motors-30-HP-Dry-Hydraulic-Elevator-Motor-200v-3-DH30P2H-C-/161018070210?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257d6cc4c2
[00:25:39] <CHNCguy> that would work tom
[00:25:40] <JT-Shop> 3k is not low rpm
[00:26:01] <Tom_itx> buy it now 495
[00:26:03] <CHNCguy> let me go look at mine 1 sec
[00:26:23] * JT-Shop thinks most motors in the 20hp range are all induction motors
[00:27:17] <CHNCguy> ya 1750 is good
[00:27:52] * JT-Shop needs to call it a night
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[00:29:10] <CHNCguy> night ttyl
[00:29:18] <Tom_itx> 460v no good?
[00:31:12] <CHNCguy> nah, i wouldnt use it, 200-260 sure
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[01:28:37] <CHNCguy> night yall
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[02:45:35] <eric_unterhausen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qt5ui3P9QA&feature=youtu.be
[02:45:53] <Tom_itx> man, cambam really sucks compared to ....
[02:48:02] <eric_unterhausen> there is no camera tricks
[02:51:51] <Tom_itx> is it better with sound?
[02:52:07] <eric_unterhausen> no, cambam still sucks without sound
[02:52:16] <Tom_itx> just checking
[02:52:17] <Tom_itx> thanks
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[02:52:55] <Tom_itx> i was gonna try to educate myself a bit but am having second thoughts
[02:53:04] <eric_unterhausen> I have no idea
[02:53:12] <Tom_itx> neat idea with the router...
[02:53:16] <eric_unterhausen> I thought about getting a copy back when he was giving it away
[02:53:18] <uw> cambam does kinda suck
[02:53:22] <uw> but still better than pycam
[02:53:27] <uw> talk about suck
[02:53:30] <eric_unterhausen> how much is it nowadays?
[02:53:31] <Tom_itx> how do you draw a line?
[02:53:41] <Tom_itx> no idea, i'm not about to buy it
[02:53:47] <uw> i dont think i've ever gotten a good tool path ever out of pycam
[02:53:56] <uw> that didnt need srs messing with
[02:53:59] <eric_unterhausen> what happened to heeks?
[02:55:46] <Tom_itx> the guy should have made a round disk with an offcenter hole to use on the guide
[02:55:49] <Tom_itx> depth control
[02:55:55] <Tom_itx> then remove it for the final pass
[02:56:24] <Tom_itx> kinda reminds me of the old bridgeport tracer
[02:57:18] <eric_unterhausen> my boss was making snide remarks about the c-clamp
[02:57:34] <eric_unterhausen> good thing he wasn't there Sunday when I was moving one of the spindles off the lathe
[02:57:42] <Tom_itx> i missed that.. was only halfway watching it
[02:58:29] <Tom_itx> oh you mean the belt tensioner?
[02:59:04] <eric_unterhausen> ya, but mostly I decided not to tell my boss how good c-clamps work to hold an engine hoist onto a pallet jack
[02:59:14] <Tom_itx> vise grips would have been a better choice
[02:59:28] <eric_unterhausen> for me or the motor guy?
[02:59:37] <Tom_itx> lathe video
[02:59:42] <eric_unterhausen> motor guy is using whatever he can get
[03:00:04] <eric_unterhausen> although, go to Harbor freight on the right day and you can get vice grips awfully cheap
[03:01:21] <Tom_itx> damn this is soooo slow
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[03:02:45] <PetefromTn> Can someone send me a GOOD linuxCNC program that works so I can compare my new post processed files to it and make sure it includes everything I need.
[03:02:57] <Tom_itx> sure
[03:03:06] <PetefromTn> Thanks man.
[03:03:06] <Tom_itx> i probably have one posted
[03:03:29] <PetefromTn> LinuxCNC does use H callouts for comp right?
[03:03:38] <Tom_itx> yes
[03:04:29] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/cnc_files/
[03:04:33] <Tom_itx> that cube should be ok
[03:04:38] <Tom_itx> i can put more up if you need
[03:04:45] <Tom_itx> those are from my smartcam post
[03:05:08] <Tom_itx> feeds n speeds are way slow
[03:05:49] <Tom_itx> i was trying to figure cambam out so i could tell you where to edit the G28 Z0
[03:06:51] <Tom_itx> i think i would add it in the END CUT area
[03:07:03] <Tom_itx> G91 G28 Z0
[03:07:30] <Tom_itx> i change it on mine and specify a coordinate
[03:07:47] <Tom_itx> i like to move the table out of the way a bit depending on the part
[03:07:57] <Tom_itx> so i generally move Y a bit
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[03:08:35] <Tom_itx> this is way too slow for me to work with on this old pc
[03:08:48] <PetefromTn> Okay man thanks. Yeah we got the post looking a lot better and I was able to input the G28 where I want it
[03:09:00] <Tom_itx> was that the right place?
[03:09:26] <PetefromTn> However not sure why but there is no G43 H whatever in the code at all... It may be because I need to setup tool table in camBam or something. Not sure yet. Asking on their forum
[03:09:44] <PetefromTn> So far it is looking good and the software is interesting and capable especially for the price.
[03:10:03] <os1r1s> PetefromTn: Do you need a G43 is there is an M06?
[03:10:18] <PetefromTn> Yeah at every toolchange...
[03:10:22] <Tom_itx> you need to set your tools
[03:10:32] <Tom_itx> before it can add tool info
[03:10:56] <PetefromTn> I did set my tools on the machine and the tools used in the program are setup obviously or the code would not post.
[03:10:58] <Tom_itx> i just can't deal with the slowness
[03:11:16] <PetefromTn> what slowness?
[03:11:24] <Tom_itx> i downloaded it to try
[03:11:42] <os1r1s> I bought it, but I'm not happy with it (cambam)
[03:11:46] <Tom_itx> all my pcs are fairly dated
[03:11:50] <eric_unterhausen> how much is it?
[03:12:03] <Tom_itx> i'll stick to smartcam
[03:12:20] <Tom_itx> even as dated as this copy is, i can do anything i need to do with it
[03:12:50] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: I've found dolphincam to be the most usable reasonably priced one
[03:12:54] <os1r1s> fwiw
[03:13:13] <Tom_itx> i don't need another one, i was just gonna look at cambam for pete
[03:13:55] <Tom_itx> i can do full 3d 3 axis or lathe and that's all i need
[03:14:00] <PetefromTn> I do not know why you would not be happy with it? It does all sorts of cool stuff that most cheap programs cannot do.
[03:14:07] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: cambam is really limited in lathe function
[03:14:16] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: Its pretty much useless for it
[03:14:31] <Tom_itx> i have the basic lathe package for smartcam but it's really all you need
[03:14:33] <PetefromTn> Yeah that is true but I don't use it for lathe I just want the 3d milling from it.
[03:14:56] <PetefromTn> Have not even played with lathe yet.
[03:14:58] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn, it takes 10 sec to update every move i make
[03:15:23] <PetefromTn> not having any problems with speed from it here at all.
[03:15:33] <Tom_itx> you got newer PCs
[03:15:40] <PetefromTn> Of course I am running on a pretty fast windows 8 laptop.
[03:16:24] <PetefromTn> Let me post this code I just made and you can give me your opinions on it so I can figure out how to improve the post if you don't mind.
[03:16:29] <PetefromTn> Where can I post it again?
[03:16:35] <Tom_itx> pastebin
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[03:17:44] <PetefromTn> http://pastebin.com/5WkwMg3Q
[03:19:21] <Tom_L> you don't want cutter comp?
[03:19:32] <PetefromTn> It is kinda convoluted but it simulates fine. Not sure why the G17 is not in the preamble up top there and there does not appear to be any G43 H whatever like I am used to seeing.
[03:19:49] <PetefromTn> yeah I do..
[03:19:49] <Tom_L> you do want G43 Hxx
[03:19:55] <Tom_L> you have cutter comp off
[03:19:57] <Tom_L> G40
[03:20:08] <PetefromTn> Ooh okay I did not do that....
[03:20:28] <Tom_L> G43 is length offset
[03:20:32] <PetefromTn> This post for linuxCNC is pretty messed up ...
[03:20:34] <Tom_L> for the H line
[03:20:36] <PetefromTn> Yeah I know...
[03:21:06] <Tom_L> i don't specify G20 but i've seen alot of guys do that
[03:21:06] <PetefromTn> Lemme try to remove the G40 from the post processor preamble..
[03:21:38] <Tom_L> i dunno what lcnc default is for that
[03:22:53] <toastyde1th> g20/g21 is inch/metric
[03:23:14] <Tom_L> i know but i don't have it output in my post
[03:23:29] <Tom_L> i rely on units in the ini
[03:24:50] <PetefromTn> Okay just removed the G40 from the post and reposted that same code still no G43 H whatever. Not sure why'
[03:26:39] <Tom_L> add it in the start move section
[03:27:19] <Tom_L> in whatever cryptic means they want to see
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[03:28:54] <Tom_L> does it allow you to enter 'user events' like op stops to move clamps etc during cuts?
[03:31:30] <PetefromTn> Actually yeah it does. There are two places for things like that. You can add a code snippet in a header or a footer of each machining operation OR you can add a code snippet in general as a custom script.
[03:32:29] <Tom_L> so you can move the table out and M1 to change stuff
[03:33:20] <Tom_L> i use M0 to be safe
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[03:40:35] <PetefromTn> sorry had to take out the garbage LOL
[03:41:09] <PetefromTn> Yeah I generally do not use those codes unless there is something specific I need to stop the machine to take care of but yeah you could put them in like that.
[03:41:37] <Tom_L> i'd add the G43 Hx in the tool change section
[03:41:44] <Tom_L> or first move section
[03:41:49] <Tom_L> may be a better place for it
[03:41:55] <Tom_L> since you need a move for it to take effect
[03:42:20] <Tom_L> G43 Z0.1 H1
[03:42:32] <Tom_L> i do that to move to the 'safe' height
[03:43:36] <PetefromTn> Actually the program must callout the H with the tool change but I do not think it is something you can just add in a code snippet like that. It must be able to adjust based on the tool selected.
[03:43:56] <Tom_L> right, that's what my template spits out
[03:44:04] <Tom_L> i don't enter it like that
[03:44:52] <Tom_L> something like: {tool.lengethoffset} H {someoffsetvalue}
[03:44:56] <Tom_L> or such
[03:45:23] <PetefromTn> I think their linuxCNC post is kind of a mess. I mean it ran the drill cycle I posted fine but I setup the single tool off the workpiece with it in the spindle.
[03:45:32] <PetefromTn> Yeah something like that.
[03:45:37] <Tom_L> i don't know their template terminology
[03:45:58] <Tom_L> i could show you mine but it would be greek
[03:46:04] <PetefromTn> Me neither. I was able to edit it to get it where it is now but that was mostly just deleting items.
[03:50:09] <PetefromTn> http://pastebin.com/tG3k4BCk
[03:50:21] <PetefromTn> That is the post processor in notebook.
[03:52:05] <Tom_L> what's $mop.header?
[03:52:28] <PetefromTn> Machining operation header
[03:53:08] <Tom_L> tool change is in it, maybe you put it there
[03:55:01] <PetefromTn> not sure what you mean. the only changes I have made were to remove a bunch of instances where the cutter would go to clearance plain even before the tool callout.
[03:55:24] <PetefromTn> I also installed the G28 in there but just noticed there is no G91
[03:55:30] <Tom_L> i'm trying to figure out where to put the H word
[03:56:06] <Tom_L> also, my template can force mode words even if they're not necessary
[03:56:30] <Tom_L> if it's in G90 i can tell it to ouput a G90 in code anyway
[03:56:39] <Tom_L> or turn that off
[03:56:47] <Tom_L> until the mode changes again
[03:58:08] <Tom_L> #PLANE #MOV #ABSI < X#XPOS>< Y#YPOS> S#SPEED M03
[03:58:12] <Tom_L> puts out:
[03:58:12] <PetefromTn> I think you can pretty much put whatever you want in this post but I am not familiar with the syntax to know where and how.
[03:58:13] <Tom_L> G17 G00 G90 X-0.689 Y-0.0491 S10016 M03
[03:58:38] <Tom_L> the S is random
[03:58:51] <PetefromTn> okay.. so?
[03:59:07] <Tom_L> i don't have a 10k rpm spindle :D
[03:59:36] <PetefromTn> I input the G91 in the post before the G28 and it did not put it in the posted code for some reason.
[03:59:56] <Tom_L> the above example the '<>' means it's optional
[04:00:14] <Tom_L> until it changes, it won't be output
[04:03:55] <PetefromTn> http://pastebin.com/26kDVN6L
[04:04:08] <PetefromTn> That is the code now after I changed it a bit.
[04:06:07] <PetefromTn> This all started with me just wanting to change the post so when the program finished with a mop the tool would go to a toolchange height so I can change it instead of leaving it down in the work where I cannot jog the head up to change tools.
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[04:06:22] <Tom_L> make sure your parameters are being set
[04:06:27] <Tom_L> before you use G28
[04:06:42] <PetefromTn> I set the G28 at the machine correct?
[04:06:44] <Tom_L> it reads the values at 5161-5166 for the move
[04:06:56] <Tom_L> home should set them
[04:07:06] <PetefromTn> Oh it goes home then?
[04:07:22] <Tom_L> but since you're having trouble i thought i'd mention that before you put the spindle thru the table
[04:07:23] <PetefromTn> I thought you could change them to whatever you wanted in G28.1
[04:07:43] <Tom_L> i don't use G28.1
[04:07:49] <Tom_L> but i suppose you could
[04:08:26] <PetefromTn> So when I home the machine it sets G28 automatically then and if I callout G28 in the code it will go to home position.
[04:08:32] <Tom_L> yes
[04:08:45] <Tom_L> whatever axis you specify in code
[04:08:52] <Tom_L> put z by itself
[04:08:55] <Tom_L> or you'll regret it
[04:09:01] <PetefromTn> Okay that actually works great because my home is head all the way up and table in center and all the way forward.
[04:09:02] <Tom_L> they move at once
[04:09:29] <Tom_L> if i use it with x and y i put them on a separate line
[04:09:33] <PetefromTn> Homing sequence is Z first then X then Y
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[04:09:59] <Tom_L> @END
[04:09:59] <Tom_L> #IF(#U9=1)<***END***>
[04:09:59] <Tom_L> G00< #FXD> Z#ZPOS // M09
[04:09:59] <Tom_L> M05
[04:09:59] <Tom_L> G28 Z0
[04:09:59] <Tom_L> G28 Y0
[04:09:59] <Tom_L> M30
[04:10:06] <Tom_L> that's my end section
[04:10:21] <PetefromTn> Don't understand you are saying you use G28 and then callout positions?
[04:10:42] <Tom_L> has nothing to do with home sequence
[04:10:43] <PetefromTn> I was under the impression all you needed was the G28 and it would go to that position.
[04:10:53] <Tom_L> if you say: G28 X0 Y0 Z0
[04:10:58] <Tom_L> all 3 will move at once
[04:11:12] <Tom_L> bad if you have clamps etc in the way
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[04:11:14] <PetefromTn> what if you just say G28
[04:11:22] <Tom_L> you need to specify an axis
[04:11:35] <Tom_L> G28 Z0
[04:12:00] <Tom_L> then if you want to move the table, put it on a separate line
[04:12:08] <PetefromTn> are you sure because I was reading about G28 on the wiki earlier and I did not notice that.
[04:12:08] <Tom_L> like i did above
[04:12:14] <Tom_L> mkay
[04:12:16] <Tom_L> try it
[04:12:46] <Tom_L> it cost me a cutter the first time
[04:12:47] <PetefromTn> not doubting ya man I honestly don't know and would probably prefer not to screw it up.
[04:13:28] <PetefromTn> So my code I just posted using G91 G28 before the toolchange is wrong then...
[04:14:07] <Tom_L> i'm afraid all the axis would move at once
[04:14:10] <Tom_L> BAD IDEA
[04:14:22] <Tom_L> feel free to try it
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[04:14:40] <PetefromTn> I agree it is a bad idea but not sure what this SHOULD be..
[04:15:16] <Tom_L> just put a Z0 on the end of i
[04:15:17] <Tom_L> it
[04:15:27] <Tom_L> G91 G28 Z0
[04:15:48] <Tom_L> then if you want to move the table add X and Y on a separate line
[04:15:54] <PetefromTn> and that is machine coordinates for sure?
[04:16:05] <Tom_L> pretty darn sure
[04:16:11] <Tom_L> but
[04:16:14] <toastyde1th> ...?
[04:16:22] <Tom_L> you said your machine wasn't storing the settings
[04:16:33] <PetefromTn> huh?
[04:16:41] <PetefromTn> The machine is working perfectly
[04:16:47] <Tom_L> the 'bug' you were referring to
[04:16:59] <PetefromTn> The problem here is I am trying to get the cam to work with it
[04:17:07] <PetefromTn> Oh you mean the tool table issue.
[04:17:10] <Tom_L> when you shut the machine off, will it return to G54 offset values after you home it?
[04:17:20] <PetefromTn> Yeah that is apparently a bug
[04:17:36] <PetefromTn> I think it will but honestly have not checked.
[04:17:44] <Tom_L> i haven't worked with your machine so i don't know what's going on with it
[04:17:48] <Tom_L> just offering precautions
[04:18:06] <Tom_L> you can look at the file with gedit
[04:18:09] <PetefromTn> To be frank I get lost setting up the tool length offsets before I run it because I am used to Mach3 which is different.
[04:18:36] <PetefromTn> I know I did that. Only problem is it would not save it for me until i closed the program and reopened it.
[04:18:37] <Tom_L> Machine menu -> touch off to workpiece
[04:18:54] <Tom_L> then set all your tools
[04:18:55] <PetefromTn> My mindset is as follows..
[04:19:01] <Tom_L> then set the z fixture offset
[04:19:26] <Tom_L> whatever active tool is set will set to zero
[04:19:46] <Tom_L> when you tell it to go to G54 zero
[04:19:51] <PetefromTn> I put all the tools into the machine one at a time and set their TLO on a 123 block on the table and save that into the tool table. Ensuring the tool in the spindle is the tool number in the window.
[04:20:14] <Tom_L> that's fine
[04:20:29] <PetefromTn> Then I load the program and the material.
[04:20:33] <Tom_L> that sets the tools in relationship to other tools
[04:20:57] <Tom_L> then use the active tool to set the G54 Z zero
[04:21:16] <Tom_L> all the other tools _should_ be set
[04:21:22] <PetefromTn> I usually go ahead and then go to MDI and do an M6Twhatever tool is first and use it to locate the workpiece.
[04:21:42] <Tom_L> that's fine
[04:21:52] <PetefromTn> Then I touchoff G54 zero and run the part.
[04:22:11] <Tom_L> everybody has different ways to set their stuff up
[04:22:28] <Tom_L> but if you wanna use the tool table what i said is how i do it
[04:22:38] <PetefromTn> What happened this morning is I was running a test part with a single tool and wanted to load the rest of the program in another program file.
[04:22:39] <Tom_L> with the G43 H offset values
[04:22:55] <Tom_L> i do that all the time
[04:23:36] <Tom_L> i just check the G54 Z offset to be sure
[04:23:42] <PetefromTn> when I tried to load the program it saw the tool was not in the tool table on the machine so it errored out and I could not open the damn tool table to input it.
[04:24:14] <PetefromTn> On my machine if I do not open the tool table BEFORE I home the machine I cannot open it.
[04:24:22] <Tom_L> yeah, i dunno how it acts if it can't find a tool specified in gcode
[04:24:31] <PetefromTn> Not sure why really.
[04:24:44] <Tom_L> that's apparently a bug because mine works fine that way
[04:25:17] <Tom_L> i set my tool table up to match my cad cam tool table
[04:25:23] <PetefromTn> All it does is pops up a dialogue that says the line number where the tool is first seen and says it is not in the tool table. Then it says hit okay and it does not load the program any further.
[04:26:38] <PetefromTn> Like I said earlier I have the tools in both the Cad and cam (other than the one that screwed me up this morning) and I keep the length and width information that gets used in the machine tool table. The cam table only has the tool diameter and number
[04:28:11] <PetefromTn> Have always done it this way on the old Rf45 and now this machine and it is the easiest way to keep things straight. The Cam only tells it how deep to go from a zero standpoint and the machine sets the proper offsets.
[04:30:02] <Tom_L> sounds reasonable
[04:31:26] <Tom_L> i would manually add the G43 Hxx after the toolchange on the first linear move until you figure out where to put it in your post
[04:31:27] <PetefromTn> I guess it does but you are saying you keep the offset information in both the machine and the cam software?
[04:31:48] <Tom_L> no no
[04:31:55] <Tom_L> just the tools and the diameters
[04:32:13] <Tom_L> you couldn't possibly keep the length offsets in your cam
[04:32:20] <Tom_L> cad cam
[04:32:28] <PetefromTn> Agreed but that is what I thought you were saying.
[04:32:31] <Tom_L> oh
[04:32:40] <Tom_L> sry for the confoozion
[04:32:42] <PetefromTn> so you basically do it the same way I am.
[04:32:49] <Tom_L> sounds like it
[04:33:52] <PetefromTn> So right now I need to figure out how to get the G43 H offsets to be called out in the code by the post.
[04:33:54] <Tom_L> i've fiddled with my post enough to know how to tweak it pretty easy
[04:34:15] <Tom_L> yeah i've been looking thru their docs and can't find it yet
[04:34:36] <PetefromTn> I turned off the G40 in the post and still no callout.
[04:34:37] <Tom_L> that's why i suggested you just add it on the first linear move after the tool change
[04:35:02] <Tom_L> for G41 you may need one of their template words added somewhere
[04:35:15] <Tom_L> i've got a few words i could give em
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[04:36:03] <PetefromTn> If you look at my system tree in the tool table it has an default inch toolset and it contains all my tools. I removed the default tools and installed the ones I am using with their number and diameter.
[04:37:41] <Tom_L> on line 20 of the pastebin add Z0
[04:39:12] <PetefromTn> If you look at the post in the system tree for LinuxCNC you can see G codes used apparently and it has G40 still in it.
[04:39:19] <PetefromTn> Okay I will do that now.
[04:39:33] <Tom_L> i don't follow what you want me to look at
[04:39:42] <PetefromTn> Let me ask you a question here.
[04:40:35] <PetefromTn> When my machine homes the switch for the z is up top of the column but the home position is below it by say .050 or so. Once it is homed it goes to that number if I tell it to Z0 it will probably hit the switch.
[04:41:25] <PetefromTn> I cannot recall if once it gets to the home offset position if it calls that zero or not.
[04:41:28] <Tom_L> mine goes to the number just below the switch
[04:41:38] <Tom_L> i offset .1
[04:41:55] <Tom_L> my configs are on my site if you wanna compare
[04:42:01] <PetefromTn> so do you tell it to go to Zo after a G28 then?
[04:42:06] <Tom_L> i would
[04:42:22] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/configs/sherline/
[04:42:34] <Tom_L> those may not be completely current but that part would be
[04:42:40] <PetefromTn> Okay tomorrow I will check to see what it does after I home it I cannot remember.
[04:43:16] <Tom_L> damn maybe i found it..
[04:43:42] <Tom_L> {$tool.length}
[04:43:47] <PetefromTn> I was doing a lot of playing with the CNCsimulatorPRo freeware today in proofing the code before I put it on the VMC.
[04:43:56] <PetefromTn> Oh yeah.
[04:44:12] <Tom_L> P.76 77of the pdf
[04:44:24] <PetefromTn> what PDF?
[04:44:30] <Tom_L> their docs
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[04:44:52] <Tom_L> 0.8.9 help file.pdf
[04:44:59] <Tom_L> 0.9.8
[04:45:42] <PetefromTn> Is that accessed thru the programs help or something online?
[04:45:59] <Tom_L> i just downloaded it from their site
[04:46:50] <PetefromTn> when I click on it I get taken to another page on their site with lots of help topics but no page numbers.
[04:47:11] <Tom_L> http://www.cambam.info/doc/CamBam-0.9.8N.pdf
[04:47:26] <PetefromTn> Oops nevermind found it.
[04:48:23] <PetefromTn> Okay so page 76 77 then,
[04:48:44] <Tom_L> 77 mostly
[04:48:55] <Tom_L> Tools - Tool change topic
[04:49:17] <Tom_L> add that to the toolchange post
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[04:49:46] <Tom_L> what does {$endcomment} put out?
[04:50:00] <Tom_L> maybe that's the H word? i dunno
[04:51:03] <Tom_L> otherwise specify G43 H{$tool.index}
[04:52:05] <PetefromTn> I am not good with this kind of thing man I can try things one at a time and post a code and see is all I can do kinda trial and error.
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[04:52:08] <Tom_itx> G43 does not cause any motion. The next time a compensated axis is moved, that axis’s endpoint is the compensated location.
[04:52:15] <Tom_L> from lcnc docs
[04:52:27] <Tom_L> that's why i suggest putting it at the first linear move
[04:52:34] <Tom_L> usually a move to the 'safe' point
[04:53:09] <Tom_L> i'd try the Start Cut section
[04:53:13] <Tom_L> see what that does
[04:53:34] <PetefromTn> not sure what you mean by start cut.
[04:53:50] <Tom_L> it's a section in their post
[04:54:03] <Tom_L> it's empty right now
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[04:54:27] <Tom_L> try adding G43 H{$tool.index} in it once to see what happens
[04:54:56] <PetefromTn> Okay standby..
[04:57:19] <Tom_L> or in the MOP right beside the {$toolchange} entry
[04:57:22] <Tom_L> 2nd line of it
[04:57:50] <PetefromTn> http://pastebin.com/MHwRmbHx
[04:58:35] <PetefromTn> it put it in on line 32?
[04:58:35] <Tom_L> didn't output anything there
[04:59:01] <PetefromTn> Hang on I will try the second idea...
[04:59:08] <Tom_L> no.. i see why
[04:59:16] <Tom_L> the first moves are canned cycles
[04:59:40] <Tom_L> where is line 12 output from?
[04:59:48] <Tom_L> that's where you want it to fall
[05:00:13] <Tom_L> find the section that ouputs line 12 and put it there
[05:00:53] <PetefromTn> line 12 is the move to the clearance plane
[05:01:01] <Tom_L> hint: to find sections i put stupid names in each one that will ouput garbage
[05:01:11] <Tom_L> but it finds the section for me
[05:01:29] <PetefromTn> standby
[05:01:53] <Tom_L> then find that section and put the G43 {move to clearance} H{#toolnumber}
[05:02:00] <Tom_L> or whatever it was
[05:03:45] <Tom_L> if you wanna find post sections put stupid words in the post so it ouputs them and you can see where it puts the code
[05:04:33] <PetefromTn> http://pastebin.com/XhmiewiV
[05:04:34] <Tom_L> i'm about done for tonight.
[05:05:11] <PetefromTn> Okay man understand. It seems to have put it down at the bottom for some reason.
[05:05:30] <Tom_L> not where you want it
[05:05:43] <Tom_L> you will find the right section if you do ^^ that
[05:06:07] <Tom_L> you want the move to 'safe' location which is ouput every time
[05:06:21] <PetefromTn> Okay thanks for the tip and the help my friend. It is MOST appreciated.
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[05:06:33] <Tom_itx> later
[05:06:41] <PetefromTn> Later man.
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[05:12:49] <PetefromTn> Woo hoo I think I got it.
[05:13:57] <PetefromTn> http://pastebin.com/G8qdESc4
[05:17:58] <PetefromTn> actually it looks like the G43 is before the tool callout oops. Just fixed it.
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[05:27:06] <Tom_itx> that post isn't correct
[05:31:07] <PetefromTn> Here is the new one...standby
[05:32:09] <PetefromTn> http://pastebin.com/XiQnnUCc
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[05:37:24] <RyanS> I was bored and this seems like a satirical 'instructable' http://www.wikihow.com/Sharpen-Scissors
[05:49:59] <PetefromTn> GN8
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[11:54:04] <gonzo__> i thought DLP used a mono lcd matrix for the actual image, then spin a filter in fronr to make it frame sequential colour
[11:54:47] <gonzo__> oops, wron chan!
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[11:56:52] <jthornton> lol
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[12:02:03] <skunkworks> logger[mah],
[12:02:03] <logger[mah]> skunkworks: Log stored at http://linuxcnc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23linuxcnc/2014-01-30.html
[12:05:19] <skunkworks> dlp actually control little mirrors that reflects the light. color can be done a few ways - color wheel or multible light sources
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[12:24:05] <gonzo__> baird would be proud of that!
[12:25:00] <gonzo__> Last projector I saw inside of, that was called DLP, was just a monochrome lcd and a colour wheel
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[13:58:21] <CaptHindsight> http://marblar.com/how-it-works We have patents on solutions without problems. Please help us find problems to capitalize on.
[13:59:18] <CaptHindsight> oh and for submitting your ideas we'll give you virtual marbles
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[14:02:12] <archivist> are they getting ideas too cheaply
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[14:06:55] <PetefromTn> Morning folks was up late with Tom ITX as he was trying to help me get my Post processor sorted out. I THINK we have it but I was wondering if you guys would mind looking at it for me to see if you see any obvious problems for LinuxCNC?
[14:07:02] <PetefromTn> http://pastebin.com/kLFHBh9d
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[14:12:07] <cradek> do you intend for everything to be in G91?
[14:12:12] <CaptHindsight> archivist: the patent holders still control the patent, now if they placed the patent into the hands of a neutral 3rd party that would be another story
[14:12:22] <cradek> it looks wrong to me
[14:12:55] <cradek> I would avoid that by using G0 G53 Z0 to lift up for the tool change, or better yet, use TOOL_CHANGE_QUILL_UP or TOOL_CHANGE_LOCATION so you don't have to program it every time
[14:13:08] <cradek> or TOOL_CHANGE_POSITION or however it's spelled
[14:13:56] <archivist> CaptHindsight, if my idea is patented that site seems to steal my marbles, it only pays 10%
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[14:16:05] <PetefromTn> Isn't it the same thing I mean G28 takes it to home basically and calling out Z0 brings it to that point.
[14:16:36] <cradek> you have to switch to G91 which is crashy if you don't switch back
[14:16:57] <PetefromTn> Understand that my toolchanger is yet to be incorporated into the control so this is a temporary post setup so I can machine without having the tool get stuck in a position where i cannot change it out for the next MOP.
[14:17:37] <PetefromTn> aah I think you are right...
[14:17:45] <CaptHindsight> archivist: so 10% to the patent holder (problem solver), 10% to the idea creator (problem bringer) and 80% to the people behind the website?
[14:17:51] <cradek> using G53 avoids the mode switch
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[14:18:09] <cradek> and using TOOL_CHANGE_QUILL_UP avoids all of this
[14:18:14] <PetefromTn> assuming I want to keep te G28 instead of the Go G53 whatever what would you recommend >
[14:18:32] <CaptHindsight> sounds like even steven split down the middle 10/90
[14:18:36] <PetefromTn> Chris can you post some code for your machine to compare it to?
[14:18:39] <cradek> well I've typed it twice...
[14:18:41] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: Still sounds better than the music industry though.
[14:19:00] <CaptHindsight> FinboySlick: that's what it reminds me of
[14:19:05] <cradek> bbl
[14:19:34] <PetefromTn> sorry man,
[14:19:40] <CaptHindsight> well 10/10/80 split, sounds fair :/
[14:19:56] <archivist> CaptHindsight, the commercial partner only gives back 10% as far as I can see so any person helping that site only gets a tiny marble
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[14:20:36] <archivist> after the corners have been filed off
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[14:25:25] <PetefromTn> rob_h: Hey man ya there?
[14:33:07] <PetefromTn> I was just rereading Chris' comments and I am wondering if I do remove the G28 Zo line and install the G0 G53 Z0 instead which would appear before each op does it revert back to G54 automaticallly when the toolchange and the machining opeeration start in linuxCNC?
[14:33:57] <PetefromTn> Or do I need to have it callout the G54 somehow?
[14:34:37] <PetefromTn> Already removed the G91 from that line so that is fixed.
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[14:52:46] <cradek> yes G53 is not modal, so it applies only to that one line, which is what you want for a move like that
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[15:28:51] <PetefromTn> okay thanks man. sorry I was out in the shop for a bit.
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[15:41:03] <akex> hi all, there are a french user here ?
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[16:02:40] <CaptHindsight> http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/ballscrews-nuts/1605-series-1280mm-flanged-nut-and-screw anyone have this?
[16:03:23] <CaptHindsight> they never seem to have the shorter ones in stock and he's selling the nuts separately
[16:04:12] <CaptHindsight> was thinking about getting the long ones to make 2-3 shorter ones
[16:04:37] <jdh> I have some that look just like that.
[16:04:41] <jdh> not from him though.
[16:05:00] <jdh> the screw is cheap enough to not bother getting a long one and cutting/machining
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[16:06:21] <CaptHindsight> jdh: where do you get your screws? I have to drive right by A.T. today anyway
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[16:07:26] <jdh> china
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[16:07:56] <CaptHindsight> they are closed until Mid Feb, for cleaning and holidays
[16:08:17] <jdh> yeah, not a good solution if you want them reasonably soon.
[16:08:26] <jdh> but I am a cheap hobbyist
[16:08:37] <CaptHindsight> yeah, Saturday
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[16:50:47] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: Turns out that what I have to glue is polypropylene.
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[17:22:34] <Jymmm> FinboySlick: I'm coming in half way through the conversation, what about gluing PP ?
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[17:27:08] <CaptHindsight> polypropylene? that's a tough one
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[17:32:57] <CaptHindsight> FinboySlick: how does it need to be bonded? what type of joint?
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[17:42:12] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[17:47:07] <PetefromTn> Hey Ich.
[17:48:54] <PetefromTn> Any of you guys use standalone CNC simulators to test code?
[17:53:18] <IchGuckLive> yes
[17:53:30] <IchGuckLive> just simulated
[17:53:39] <IchGuckLive> with standard linux
[17:53:56] <IchGuckLive> no RT
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[17:57:27] <Jymmm> ping
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[18:01:58] <CaptHindsight> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1179 8mm Diameter Linear Bearing, just FYI, these are worth every penny or you get what you pay for :)
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[18:03:26] <IchGuckLive> Jymmm: return ping
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[18:03:45] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn: question is answerd
[18:03:58] <IchGuckLive> dnaleromj: Welcome to the CNC channel
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[18:05:19] <R2E4> IchGuckLive: you the gatekeeper?
[18:05:37] <dnaleromj> now if I can keep my IRC channel open for more than a few minutes. :)
[18:06:11] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: broken corners of an automotive battery. Poor design. Let me dig you a picture.
[18:06:16] <IchGuckLive> R2E4: i dont se myself so
[18:06:51] <IchGuckLive> R2E4: vfigting with android pageview
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[18:07:45] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: http://pbrd.co/1nqUNNk
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[18:08:35] <FinboySlick> http://pasteboard.co/jstgNtR.jpg
[18:10:50] <CaptHindsight> FinboySlick: do you have the missing parts? Do any of them come in contact with the acid inside?
[18:11:27] <TekniQue> 16:50:47 < FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: Turns out that what I have to glue is polypropylene.
[18:11:30] <TekniQue> good luck
[18:11:36] <TekniQue> you can try welding it
[18:11:48] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: No leak, it's dry. I think the cells are underneath the foam you see where the surface was breached.
[18:11:53] <TekniQue> I'm not aware of any glue that will adhere to it
[18:12:23] <TekniQue> depending on how tough the joint has to be
[18:12:30] <FinboySlick> And yeah, I have the broken bits, two chunks, one for each break.
[18:12:38] <CaptHindsight> FinboySlick: is it under any tension?
[18:12:52] <CaptHindsight> or will it be :)
[18:13:33] <FinboySlick> Well, it's the foot of the battery and it'll go in a car. I assume it'll suffer some stress but probably not gigantic stress.
[18:13:37] <CaptHindsight> PP has very low surface energy but it's still a thermoplastic....
[18:13:49] <archivist> FinboySlick, I would put supporting material in any hidden void to make stronger
[18:14:40] <CaptHindsight> welding will be tough since you don't want to damage that foam
[18:15:56] <CaptHindsight> super glues are Cyanoacrylates, a good one can hold the old parts in place and then I'd cover the whole area with an epoxy
[18:15:59] <zeeshan|2> TekniQue:
[18:16:01] <zeeshan|2> youre in here
[18:16:01] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: As in solvent-welding or thermal welding?
[18:16:03] <zeeshan|2> i didn't even notice lol
[18:16:35] <CaptHindsight> thermal weld, PP is resistant to many solvents, that's why we use them to store and ship solvents
[18:17:29] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: Heh, it'd be an interesting case for an ultrasonic weld.
[18:17:40] <PetefromTn> Thanks Ich sorry I was out in the shop for awhile.
[18:17:58] <PetefromTn> Whaddya mean simulated with standard linux?
[18:18:01] <CaptHindsight> FinboySlick: if you could hold the broken parts
[18:18:02] <archivist> or sheet metal either side the break, to patch it
[18:18:25] <R2E4> zeeshan|2: you have any suppliers for linear square bearings?
[18:18:32] <R2E4> in T.O.?
[18:18:54] <zeeshan|2> not worth getting locally
[18:18:56] <zeeshan|2> they're too expensive
[18:19:09] <zeeshan|2> vxbbearings.com :P
[18:19:57] <R2E4> you mean vxb.com?
[18:20:00] <CaptHindsight> FinboySlick: is that an Optima battery?
[18:20:10] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: Moot, I wouldn't have access to anything like that anyway. Let me look up some examples of plastic welding that might be appropriate to this situation. And yeah, a yellowtop.
[18:20:45] <CaptHindsight> clean it up really well and use silicone caulk
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[18:21:19] <FinboySlick> They shipped a replacement, it came in thrashed even worse. First one was in a cardboard box without cushioning at the bottom (the one you saw in the pictures). The replacement came wrapped in celophane with large 'Fragile' stickers on it... I wonder what they were thinking at the warehouse.
[18:21:47] <CaptHindsight> yikes, I just bought one from the auto parts store
[18:21:56] <IchGuckLive> someone of you guys is a Android app programmer
[18:22:29] <CaptHindsight> did you buy from Amamzon? I heard they ship light bulbs without any extra packing materials
[18:22:31] <IchGuckLive> Eclipse ?
[18:22:37] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: Only place I found that would send one to my neck of the woods is pretty far.
[18:22:57] <CaptHindsight> I just started not liking amazon
[18:23:00] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: And as I found out, it didn't work too well.
[18:23:07] <CaptHindsight> the shipping is getting pretty bad
[18:23:22] <jdh> I ordered some steel from amazon. No packing materials. The steel disappeared from the box. Both times.
[18:23:28] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: All they would have needet do to is strap it to a bit of plywood.
[18:24:29] <CaptHindsight> they even ship fluorescent tubes in the boxes made for display, all you get is a box of broken glass :)
[18:24:30] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: Anyway, they gave me my money back and didn't bother to request the battery back.
[18:24:42] <CaptHindsight> oh ok
[18:24:42] <archivist> poor packers are supposed to pack 60 parcels an hour
[18:24:46] <FinboySlick> So if I can save it, I'll have earned myself a free battery for the ordeal.
[18:24:53] <CaptHindsight> figures, slave labor
[18:25:05] <CaptHindsight> the cell inside is good
[18:25:23] <archivist> they had a tv program on amazon slavery in the uk
[18:25:25] <FinboySlick> Yeah. I just want to make sure it's sealed before I put it to use.
[18:25:34] <CaptHindsight> just coat it with silicone or epoxy
[18:25:37] <FinboySlick> And I like the challenge of doing a good job.
[18:26:23] <FinboySlick> Which of silicone or epoxy is most likely to stick to it?
[18:26:24] <CaptHindsight> I'm still waiting for a 2 day shipment from Monday
[18:26:56] <CaptHindsight> they sent the tracking number from UPS marked from yesterday but it hasn't even been picked up yet
[18:27:24] <CaptHindsight> so monday + 2 days = Friday or the following monday
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[19:17:49] <IchGuckLive> im off BYE
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[19:41:45] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn after looking at it, i meant to tell you about the G91
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[19:44:20] <PetefromTn> Tom_itx: Yeah man I was discussing it with Chris this morning. No worries but I am gonna have to change it here and try again, working on some other stuff in the shop right now. Thanks so much for your help last evening.
[19:46:19] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP3yW-hqFng Looks interesting. From further reading, I should be setting around 260-270 degrees for PP. It'll put a bit of silicone where the tip won't reach and I'll weld the outside joint I think.
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[19:47:17] <Tom_itx> G53 says cutter comp needs to be off
[19:48:26] <Tom_itx> in my post i use G28 and don't use G91
[19:48:39] <Tom_itx> stays in G90 mode and works just fine
[19:48:49] <cradek> not if you are using it to move just Z up
[19:48:57] <Tom_itx> sure does
[19:49:08] <cradek> G28 is a weirdo code - it does two moves
[19:49:11] <Tom_itx> G28 Z0
[19:49:17] <cradek> that will sometimes move down first
[19:49:20] <Tom_itx> returns to the top
[19:49:33] <cradek> only if you're already at Z0 in your current system
[19:49:35] <Tom_itx> it shouldn't
[19:49:46] <cradek> yes it should
[19:50:00] <Tom_itx> if it's there why should it move at all?
[19:50:01] <cradek> that's why people use the otherwise-weird G91 Z0, to null out the first move
[19:50:14] <Tom_itx> i think originally i did too
[19:50:41] <cradek> have a look at http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G28-G28_1
[19:50:41] <Tom_itx> it doesn't matter either way, my post will take care of it but apparently his won't
[19:50:50] <PetefromTn> I suppose I would want it to do whatever requires the least amount of code fiddling LOL>
[19:51:02] <cradek> G28 alone makes one move of all axes; G28 Z0 makes two moves of Z only
[19:51:17] <Tom_itx> G53 should work but cutter comp should be off according to the docs
[19:51:33] <cradek> well you don't want to change tools with cutter comp on anyway
[19:52:23] <Tom_itx> length or diameter? or either...
[19:52:31] <cradek> "cutter comp" means diameter
[19:52:35] <cradek> g41/g42
[19:53:00] <PetefromTn> Oh I thought it was use the TLO in the table..
[19:53:02] <cradek> you don't have to cancel tool length offset to change tools, but you should apply the new one pretty soon afterward
[19:53:23] <Tom_itx> apparently i don't use cutter comp anyway
[19:53:33] <Tom_itx> i don't see it in my code
[19:53:49] <Tom_itx> it still reads the tool table though
[19:54:09] <PetefromTn> http://pastebin.com/twfy5rci
[19:54:17] <Tom_itx> if i have a .250 EM and enter .255 it will cut differently
[19:54:26] <PetefromTn> This is the current code that I have not changed the PP yet to fix the G91
[19:54:50] <PetefromTn> Oops sorry that one does have the change
[19:55:00] <PetefromTn> How would you say it SHOULD look?
[19:55:10] <Tom_itx> what section did you end up putting the G28 in?
[19:55:21] <PetefromTn> Tool Change I think...
[19:55:25] <Tom_itx> look at my cube code
[19:55:27] <Tom_itx> it works fine
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[19:55:55] <Tom_itx> i don't add G20 but you can
[19:56:20] <PetefromTn> I inserted the G43 H code there too and it also has the T() M6 in there.
[19:56:38] <Tom_itx> where does cambam store those?
[19:56:46] <Tom_itx> i may get a copy of yours to see
[19:57:25] <PetefromTn> Well I made those particular changes right from the software by going to the system tab and down to Post Processors then LinuxCNC and it opens underneath for you to make adjustment.
[19:57:46] <Tom_itx> i know but it writes to a file somewhere
[19:58:05] <PetefromTn> Yeah it is something like LinuxCNC.CBPP
[19:58:25] <PetefromTn> I modded that file and renamed it.
[19:59:20] <PetefromTn> BRB...
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[20:02:50] <PetefromTn> Spraying some wood here with finish to complete a job for a customer. Sorry.
[20:04:55] <PetefromTn> I guess it does not matter what code you use G28 or G53 like he said but considering the other things I would need to setup for it to work I am leaning toward using the G0 G53 Z0 like Chris recommended. Not sure how that would affect the toolchange but it would always be input before the toolchange in the exact same place as the G28 Z 0 is in that code. Do I need to remove the G40 from the header there or is it okay the way
[20:04:55] <PetefromTn> it is?
[20:06:05] <PetefromTn> I think quite often on setup I will have the tool down at least near the work when I actually start the program so a move initially to toolchange height would be good as I intend to use a touch off tool for setup once I get the proper holders here.
[20:06:39] <PetefromTn> Then I can touch off and start the program the head will go up and ask me for the first tool and we are ready to machine no?
[20:07:13] <PetefromTn> I am sure I will have to make changes to this once the toolchanger is finished and ready to be used but for now that should work. What say ye?
[20:10:18] <Tom_itx> It is an error if:
[20:10:18] <Tom_itx> G53 is used without G0 or G1 being active,
[20:10:18] <Tom_itx> or G53 is used while cutter compensation is on.
[20:10:30] <Tom_itx> so use G40 with it
[20:10:58] <Tom_itx> bak in a few
[20:11:05] <PetefromTn> okay thanks.
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[20:25:07] <PetefromTn> Gotta run an errand Tom and Chris be back later thanks again for all your help.
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[22:17:10] <Deejay> gn8
[22:17:38] <JT-Shop> I'm getting an error with a 5i25 7i76 7i76 setup at the loadrt hm2_pci config="sserial_port_0=3000xxxx"
[22:17:40] <JT-Shop> http://pastebin.com/HDE10hih
[22:17:43] <JT-Shop> dmesg
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[22:18:34] <PCW> hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card 7i76.0.0 error = (30) Illegal Remote Mode
[22:20:31] <JT-Shop> what should sserial_port_0=3000xxxx be to set mode 3 on the 7i76 on p3?
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[22:27:30] <PCW> the 7I76 only has mode 0,1,2 (why this is not the same as the 7I77 I do not know)
[22:29:33] <JT-Shop> ok
[22:29:42] <JT-Shop> I thought they were the same
[22:37:20] <PCW> they probably should be
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[22:43:55] <PCW> I think linuxcnc master lists the modes in dmesg
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[23:01:46] <Tom_itx> are there directions somewhere to apply patches?
[23:01:57] <Tom_itx> i'm not git monkey
[23:02:00] <Tom_itx> no*
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[23:27:34] <JT-Shop> git am mypatch.patch IIRC
[23:28:43] <Tom_itx> then you need to rebuild it?
[23:28:50] <Tom_itx> make clean, make?
[23:30:06] <JT-Shop> sometimes make will do it other times make clean
[23:30:38] <Tom_itx> just wondering about that bug pete was experiencing
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[23:33:12] <CaptHindsight> do pointless cows say "Moot"?
[23:43:34] <jdh> what do apathetic k0ws say?
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[23:43:57] <cradek> meh.
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