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[00:02:38] <somenewguy> anyone have any pro-tips on how to verify a new subroutine is robust?
[00:02:55] <somenewguy> before i start milling aI m siming it, but I suspect there are a fw cases that culd blow it up
[00:04:27] <somenewguy> i am using cutter comp a lot more and suspect there might be a strange case I didn't plan for
[00:04:45] <somenewguy> or do I just need to iterate it a bunch of times till something goes kerblooie
[00:05:03] <cradek> before you run any new program, look at the preview and see if it makes sense
[00:05:30] <cradek> that's the only advice I can think of...
[00:06:30] <JT-Shop> best advice I have too
[00:07:10] <JT-Shop> I do a chicken check of the preview and if I'm still not sure I run without a tool or material what ever makes sense
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[00:46:10] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIXrkznE2IU#t=38
[00:46:44] <syyl--> uh
[00:47:01] <syyl--> mach can finaly run with encoderfeedback?
[00:47:18] <syyl--> oh
[00:47:19] <syyl--> not
[00:47:26] <syyl--> just read the description ;)
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[00:56:32] <eric_unterhause1> modbus spindle speed sounds worse than that looks
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[01:42:14] <nlancaster> question, having not used linux very much. How do you get your gcode to your linux cnc control box?
[01:42:44] <Tom_itx> network or thumbdrive
[01:43:00] <nlancaster> does the thumbdrive popup like in windows?
[01:43:08] <Tom_itx> yes
[01:43:15] <nlancaster> k
[01:43:20] <nlancaster> I take it from your name, you like ITX systems?
[01:43:24] <nlancaster> sized systems that is?
[01:43:32] <Tom_itx> i'm just on one here is all
[01:43:50] <nlancaster> ah, I do alot of Lan gaming, and ITX is great for moving around.
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[01:45:11] <nlancaster> one of my projects for my cnc router is a new HTPC case for mini-itx
[01:47:16] <jdh> I just use network shared drives
[01:48:01] <somenewguy> i am proabably gonna start using github, since I finally have a reliavle network connection
[01:48:25] <nlancaster> was just for information. thinking of building a few light duty CNC routers for sale locally. and if I offer a PC with LinuxCNC on it I wanted to know the answers D:
[01:48:26] <somenewguy> version control will be hard to utilize, and I probably wont, but the one or two times it saves my butt I am sure it will be worth it
[01:50:16] <somenewguy> i am getting a "no stop or % at end of code" error in my test case, but I have a % sitting right there....
[01:50:21] <somenewguy> time to look for accientl mcodes...
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[01:52:57] <Tom_itx> M2 or M30 at the end?
[01:53:51] <somenewguy> I tried an M2 and a %
[01:53:59] <somenewguy> neither one worked
[01:54:39] <somenewguy> gonna look a minute longer, but I might need to paste bin if anyones up for it
[01:54:58] <somenewguy> its only 80 lines, fingers crossed its an obvoius paren or something
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[01:57:48] <somenewguy> sub needs t obe in the file before its called ,right? not after
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[02:06:13] <somenewguy> that wasn't too bad, had the endsub with no o in front of it so it was stuck
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[03:42:51] <heathmanc> Yahoo, anybody very MESA familiar around?
[03:50:50] <cradek> hi, always just go ahead and ask the real question
[03:51:21] <cradek> nobody knows whether they can help you otherwise, and you'll get ignored...
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[03:58:43] <heathmanc> just trying to figure out the difference in configuration in linuxcnc with a 4i69 instead of the 5i20 that i currently use
[03:59:32] <heathmanc> should have asked first before I ordered it
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[08:46:18] <rootB> Hi linuxCnc
[08:46:47] <rootB> I got a CNC-based spindle issue
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[09:09:55] <archivist> which is?
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[09:30:39] <sivu> the suspense is killing me
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[09:30:52] <Deejay> moin
[09:30:55] * archivist died
[09:31:09] <Deejay> RIP
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[09:45:50] <Mr_Mayhem> lol
[09:50:43] <toastydeath> I'm really sad there aren't cheaper centerless grinders
[09:50:54] <toastydeath> seems like no matter what size grinder you want to buy they're all about 15k usd
[09:51:16] <toastydeath> would be nice to be able to make pins quickly
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[09:54:16] <toastydeath> I get the sense from operators that you can set them up pretty quick for simple shit like that, so it should be competitive with making an accurate pin on a lathe
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[11:41:42] <rootB> ???
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[11:53:12] <archivist> rootB, we are still in suspenders waiting for any questions
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[12:01:42] <jthornton> lol
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[12:37:16] <archivist> by the magic of irc I feel a 3d printer problem in my crystal ball
[12:42:10] * skunkworks doesn't know what is going on..
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[12:55:17] <Tom_itx> s/spindle/suspense
[12:57:02] <rootB> ok
[12:57:09] <rootB> I busted the acrylic jigsaw of my 3D Printer...
[12:57:13] <rootB> i dont know what to do.
[12:57:17] <rootB> i can't print another jigsaw..
[12:57:22] <rootB> i was thinking on using shapeways
[12:58:58] <Tom_itx> well think on it for a few hours and let us know how it ends
[12:59:05] <rootB> However, i have another problem..
[12:59:08] <rootB> I own a shapeoko you se..
[12:59:14] <rootB> I think you are familiar with the shapeoko..
[12:59:18] <rootB> And im trying to upgrade it
[12:59:36] <rootB> Since the Driver it uses is basicalyl an arduino hooked up to a grbl shield
[13:00:50] * Tom_itx doesn't see anything lcnc related so far
[13:01:07] <rootB> (._. ) isn't this cnc-linuxcnc related?
[13:01:12] <rootB> or is there a CNC only.
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[13:20:04] <archivist> rootB,
https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
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[14:06:18] <jthornton> added a new one
http://www.gnipsel.com/glade/index.html
[14:13:18] <CaptHindsight> rootB: have you tried the #reprap channel?
[14:14:14] <archivist> has he tried asking a better question
[14:14:52] <CaptHindsight> his questions there would receive countless answers
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[14:15:40] <archivist> I dont think so as although he originally mentioned a spindle problem, never gave and info about said spindle problem
[14:15:43] <CaptHindsight> and just as specific as the questions :)
[14:16:12] <archivist> hehe are they that good in there :)
[14:19:46] <eric_unterhause1> grbl replaces lcnc
[14:20:39] <archivist> in idiots dreams
[14:21:15] <archivist> geared axes in grbl?
[14:22:23] <eric_unterhause1> I never quite understood why the idea of something like a grbl was so attractive
[14:23:26] <eric_unterhause1> although if you have a 3 axis router, it should work ok once debugged
[14:24:58] <skunkworks> the mind set (talking to charles at the fest) is the rap-rep people like the idea of a 'pprinter' sind it a file iand it prints it. done
[14:25:17] <skunkworks> send it a file and it prints it.
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[14:26:02] <eric_unterhausen> that's ok for a 3d printer, not so great for router
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[14:26:21] <Jymmm> That's how my laser works. It just installs as a printer, you select settings, and hit START
[14:26:41] <eric_unterhausen> 3d printer doesn't have to worry about collisions
[14:26:44] <skunkworks> right - like that.
[14:27:51] <archivist> I do realise there is a mental barrier to "install linux" and setup something
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[14:30:56] <eric_unterhausen> getting rt to run right is a pita, as my travails over the last week have shown
[14:32:03] <eric_unterhausen> grbl doesn't have to worry about drm in a video driver
[14:32:35] <CaptHindsight> you also chose ubuntu vs linux :)
[14:34:09] <JT-Shop> mental barrier for sure
[14:34:53] <eric_unterhausen> I assume the driver was written by someone on the debian side, ubuntu developers not that smart
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[14:36:39] <JT-Shop> wow 5,555 posts on the forum
[14:38:49] <eric_unterhausen> I'm almost tempted to see if there is some obvious way to rt-ize the radeon driver
[14:44:19] <CaptHindsight> eric_unterhausen: which GPU?
[14:44:40] <eric_unterhausen> hd 78xx
[14:45:45] <CaptHindsight> ask memleak in the dev channel
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[15:05:03] <cradek> archivist: that getting-help-on-irc document is quite decent
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[15:18:11] <archivist> cradek, there are a number, often used in the channel bots for prompting a user to ask better questions
[15:20:14] <archivist> here is one for "ask" in my bot for another chan Don't ask to ask, Don't state: "I have a question", Don't ask: "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just Ask The Question. Also, please read:
http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
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[15:40:06] <sivu> gantry
https://www.dropbox.com/s/buw0aknwx4u38z2/Photo%2030.12.2013%2016.09.38.jpg
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[15:41:58] <JT-Shop> how rigid is it?
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[15:43:47] <sivu> pretty good even without upper support
[15:44:06] <sivu> i added cross support today
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[15:45:20] <sivu> and it took my weight without bending
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[15:56:49] <archivist> sivu, adding a web between the two flats? as the cutting forces may bend it
[15:57:16] <sivu> yes
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[16:01:49] <CaptHindsight> bits of China?? The whole country is in one time zone :)
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[16:11:34] <eric_unterhausen> that must be the worlds widest time zone
[16:17:36] <CaptHindsight> yes, it crosses 4-5
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[16:27:24] <IchGuckLive> Happy new year to our chinese cnc freeks
[16:28:10] <IchGuckLive> and all east of the HK boarder that are way in 2014
[16:28:32] <IchGuckLive> im on a devel of a wood mill at 20m/min
[16:28:43] <IchGuckLive> at 0,2mm precision
[16:30:04] <IchGuckLive> vitteng all parts and diameters togeter is quite a challenge to get good performence
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[16:34:03] <IchGuckLive> Lucky i am
[16:34:29] <IchGuckLive> metrick rack and pinion as always fits perfect
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[16:35:17] <IchGuckLive> T10 Z24 makes me a U of the pinion at 240mm
[16:35:33] <IchGuckLive> and 240mm / 0,2 pricision is 1200 steps
[16:35:52] <IchGuckLive> so 8Nm Steppers in direct mode no gear YEs im in business
[16:36:20] <IchGuckLive> now the price
[16:36:45] <IchGuckLive> 3x 36Eur for the pinion so far
[16:37:33] <IchGuckLive> 3x 130 for 3 rack 2m
[16:38:04] <IchGuckLive> and 2 x 80Eur for the 1m ones
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[16:40:00] <IchGuckLive> 3 stepeppers at 100 wuros
[16:41:43] <IchGuckLive> 3 drivers at 110
[16:41:48] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: our bears like German food
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f6WWyxK_OaU
[16:42:25] <IchGuckLive> 2 powe supplys at 72 etch
[16:44:25] <IchGuckLive> 150 box for the 2005 in Z
[16:45:17] <eric_unterhausen> bears will eat just about anything, even German food
[16:45:40] <IchGuckLive> rails 2x 2500mm 25mm 240Eur etch
[16:48:58] <IchGuckLive> and 1 flat pair bearings for the Z at 160
[16:49:28] <IchGuckLive> and ofcause a 7i75 plag and play ads 300
[16:49:45] <IchGuckLive> 2500 Euros in total forcast so 3500 in finish mode
[16:49:55] <IchGuckLive> Thats a good price !!!!
[16:50:30] <IchGuckLive> Mumbai is on the hook to celebrade the New Year Bye ror a wile !!
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[16:52:30] <CaptHindsight> they are UTC +05:30 so look for that on the bottom of most of our hours
[16:54:38] <CaptHindsight> China put itself in one time zone instead of four and India chose the middle of two time zones
[16:55:04] <CaptHindsight> kind of misses the point of time zones
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[17:04:13] <eric_unterhausen> I kinda liked living in the western part of a timezone
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[18:03:19] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20131118-mtu-prof-writes-3d-printing-guide-to-making-your-own-low-cost-lab-equipment.html
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[18:05:32] <CaptHindsight> it's difficult to take any guide that references repcrap and other maker garbage seriously
[18:06:23] <archivist> the pricing quoted is a bit out!
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[18:06:56] <eric_u_cnc> Capt: do you have 3d printer recommendations?
[18:07:02] <eric_u_cnc> I want to buy one at work
[18:07:03] <archivist> some bs to make you buy the book
[18:07:24] <CaptHindsight> eric_u_cnc: what type? FDM, SLA etc?
[18:07:39] <eric_u_cnc> I dunno what type, blank slate
[18:07:59] <archivist> depends what you are prototyping
[18:08:13] <eric_u_cnc> I probably would be happy with a makerbot
[18:09:07] <CaptHindsight> a nice 3-axis mill that you can change from milling to deposition
[18:09:24] <eric_u_cnc> I have reasons not to get a mill
[18:09:34] <CaptHindsight> FDM head, syringe, laser etc
[18:09:35] <eric_u_cnc> basically not allowed
[18:10:13] <CaptHindsight> same design, just different tool mounted on the Z
[18:10:25] <eric_u_cnc> and our machinist just hit himself in the head with a broken endmill, so I'm worried about the machine shop
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[18:11:35] <eric_u_cnc> canonical hid the software sources app
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[18:13:00] <CaptHindsight> same 3-axis gantry for milling, SLA, FDM, inkjet etc etc
[18:13:55] <CaptHindsight> if you buy a makerbot or similar it will only extrude thermoplastics their way
[18:14:48] <CaptHindsight> very limited range thermoplastics
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[18:14:59] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[18:15:15] <IchGuckLive> hapy new year if it has arrived at your location already
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[18:19:20] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: i ordert all 3d parts today for external printing 56Euros for all 7 parts
[18:19:25] <CaptHindsight> one of the nice things about Linuxcnc is that it may be used to control all types of 3d printers, not just glue guns
[18:19:35] <IchGuckLive> they charge 33cent for 1cm³
[18:20:02] <IchGuckLive> so no need to print it yourself
[18:20:11] <IchGuckLive> HP color 3D
[18:20:13] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: what material?
[18:20:56] <eric_unterhausen> Capt: one thing I forgot to mention was the fact that I have money but no time
[18:21:00] <IchGuckLive> That is the hint they only fit one color at the da of printing so no guess yet when it will be printed
[18:23:09] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight ABS
[18:23:23] <CaptHindsight> ok, so extruded
[18:23:33] <IchGuckLive> never asked on that all on price for scale modelling
[18:23:48] <CaptHindsight> HP is working on a large format SLA machine
[18:23:52] <IchGuckLive> 0.1mm 11 layers per mm
[18:25:18] <IchGuckLive> is there a correction layer in the middle or iin the end someone knows this
[18:25:34] <IchGuckLive> as 0.1 *11 sent 1
[18:25:42] <CaptHindsight> eric_u_cnc: the big corporate players make expensive machines with pricey materials, the rest are mostly riding the FDM bubble
[18:25:49] <IchGuckLive> !=
[18:26:41] <IchGuckLive> i diddent know for long time that the HP offers a full slicing software for free to get code out of it
[18:27:19] <IchGuckLive> this time for the first time i had to print myself and file out the printdata to the printer service
[18:27:26] <IchGuckLive> no more stl acepted
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[18:32:34] <CaptHindsight> in a few years all the rapid hybrid 3D print tech will be in China, you won't see it in the west until there is some cooperation on patents
[18:32:44] <CaptHindsight> so not for a long long time
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[18:39:52] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: will there be an FPGA board for the Cubie on the market soon?
[18:40:21] <pcw_home> I have a few if you want to play with one
[18:41:20] <pcw_home> (7I91HD Cubie --> SPI --> FPGA --> 72 I/O)
[18:41:31] <CaptHindsight> how do I order one?
[18:41:57] <pcw_home> needs:
[18:41:59] <pcw_home> Xenomai/Preemt_rt on Cubie
[18:42:00] <pcw_home> SPI HostMot2 driver
[18:42:19] <pcw_home> I can just send you one if you give me your address
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[18:43:08] <CaptHindsight> no problem
[18:43:17] <pcw_home> I do have a SPI HostMot2 slave firmware working so that parts done
[18:43:41] <pcw_home> (documented in 7I90 manual)
[18:43:58] <CaptHindsight> we were going to look back at RTAI on the Allwinner as well
[18:44:04] <CaptHindsight> great
[18:45:37] <pcw_home> Neat! have you seen Tom Cubies latest?
[18:45:51] <pcw_home> radxa rock
[18:45:54] <CaptHindsight> the problem with the BBB is the slow GPU
[18:46:06] <CaptHindsight> no. not yet
[18:46:31] <CaptHindsight> the site is not loading right now
[18:46:50] <pcw_home> quad core 1.5 GHz
[18:46:53] <eric_unterhausen> someone was asking about the cubie yesterday
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[18:47:58] <eric_unterhausen> search for cubie, and the 10th link is to urban dictionary. I'm afraid of what that might be
[18:48:13] <CaptHindsight> http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G138733896281 $59 1.7GHz Quad-Core processor and 2GByte RAM
[18:48:40] <CaptHindsight> maybe hardkernel is finally getting it, they need an affordable board made in volume
[18:48:40] <pcw_home> I'm thinking that for us the EDM format looks like it has the most advantages
[18:52:38] <pcw_home> (I notice there are at least 10 CPUS is EDM format including some x86's)
[18:53:34] <IchGuckLive> so im off for This year bye till 2014
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[18:54:35] <CaptHindsight> http://www.technexion.com/index.php/products/edm
[18:55:45] <CaptHindsight> EDM Compact: 82 x 60 mm (ARM only) EDM Standard: 82 x 95 mm (ARM and x86) EDM Extended: 82 x 145 mm (x86 only)
[18:57:09] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: are you thinking about an EDM carrier board with FPGA and slot for EDM cpu modules?
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[18:58:29] <pcw_home> yes
[18:59:02] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: will it have a 50 pin anything IO as well? or?
[18:59:18] <pcw_home> probably
[18:59:26] <CaptHindsight> high speed serial?
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[19:00:44] <pcw_home> Probably first will use GPMC connection to FPGA, later will migrate to PCIE
[19:03:06] <pcw_home> I Like EDM since it gets us out of chasing the "Hot Dev board of the Month"
[19:03:08] <pcw_home> which is of course completely incompatible with the "Hot Dev board of last Month"
[19:03:45] <CaptHindsight> yeah, little to no cooperation between vendors
[19:04:21] <eric_unterhausen> see also bbw vs. bbb
[19:04:52] <CaptHindsight> often there is little to no intention of the board to be used outside of development, the panda and beagle are examples
[19:05:42] <CaptHindsight> then it gets popular
[19:05:51] <pcw_home> right
[19:08:25] <eric_unterhausen> lots of hate and discontent on bbb over dropping angstrom
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[19:08:40] <CaptHindsight> I tried to work with that EOMA-68 spec but the leader of that initiative ended up a bit too kooky and announced that he patented the re-use of the PCMCIA connectors
[19:09:15] <eric_unterhausen> my garage door goes on the internet in 7 days
[19:09:27] <CaptHindsight> http://linuxgizmos.com/beaglebone-black-sbc-surpasses-100000-units/
[19:10:20] <eric_unterhausen> no wonder there are so many stupid questions on the mailing list
[19:10:30] <CaptHindsight> heh
[19:10:41] <eric_unterhausen> I delete 87% after just reading the titles
[19:11:09] <CaptHindsight> isn;t there a user/noob vs dev list?
[19:11:36] <eric_unterhausen> they should stencil something like, "it's just linux" on the board
[19:11:36] <eric_unterhausen> I don't think there is a noob list
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[19:11:46] <eric_unterhausen> or rather, the bbb list is the noob list
[19:11:59] <CaptHindsight> maybe reprap will take it on
[19:12:29] <CaptHindsight> but that would just be for cnc
[19:12:36] <eric_unterhausen> the only hate for noob questions was one guy asking about a lady ada product
[19:12:53] <eric_unterhausen> which was actually perfectly fine because it was a generic question
[19:13:25] <eric_unterhausen> otherwise, stupid questions get answered or ignored for the most part
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[19:14:20] <eric_unterhausen> oh, cool, someone got matlab running on bbb
[19:14:24] <CaptHindsight> often the docs are missing or skip over details that would be important for noobs
[19:15:18] <eric_unterhausen> well, that would apply in approximately 5% of the questions
[19:15:33] <eric_unterhausen> the others are just linux questions for the most part
[19:15:43] <CaptHindsight> the rest don't read the docs anyway :)
[19:15:46] <eric_unterhausen> and the wiki is pretty good anyway
[19:16:04] <CaptHindsight> why read when you can ask?
[19:16:05] <eric_unterhausen> Gerald spends most of his time providing links into the wiki
[19:17:42] <CaptHindsight> I haven't designed a single CPU board in the last year. I figured that someone would make an ARM board with a decent enough GPU and IO to support an FPGA for CNC
[19:18:03] <eric_unterhausen> I will admit that I had some confusion when first programming for beagleboard
[19:18:03] <eric_unterhausen> but then I realized it was just another linux system
[19:18:34] <eric_unterhausen> apparently the BBB is going into enough commercial products that supply is really tight
[19:18:49] <eric_unterhausen> even though they discourage if you ask
[19:19:40] <eric_unterhausen> every once in a while someone asks for a quantity discount, covered in the wiki
[19:19:41] <CaptHindsight> they never intended for the beagles to be used in products, hence the poor format
[19:20:32] <eric_unterhausen> relative to most commercial products I have dissected, the format is reasonable
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[19:20:59] <CaptHindsight> looking back, if I had taken the Sitara AM3359 and made a board intended for mass production, would it have taken off?
[19:21:29] <eric_unterhausen> no, because you're not ti
[19:21:43] <pcw_home> Probably not unless subsidized by TI
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[19:22:05] <eric_unterhausen> haven't similar things been offered on kickstarter?
[19:22:05] <CaptHindsight> the Allwinner SOC's are very popular in China for tablets, Mediatek for phones
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[19:22:54] <CaptHindsight> wasn't there the Freescale imx6 + Atmel in a duino form factor?
[19:23:25] <pcw_home> Yes, forgot the name though
[19:23:58] <Jymmm> IBM Model 2
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[19:24:14] <CaptHindsight> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/435742530/udoo-android-linux-arduino-in-a-tiny-single-board/posts/456046
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[19:25:01] <CaptHindsight> andy was still waiting for his last time I asked
[19:25:12] <eric_unterhausen> I always like the kickstarters that get over-funded by 20x like that
[19:25:16] <eric_unterhausen> and then fail
[19:25:54] <eric_unterhausen> is it the over-funding, or was the original estimate of how much $ were required off by more than 20x?
[19:26:32] <eric_unterhausen> I know someone that should have gone on kickstarter, he made a really nice iphone case
[19:26:52] <eric_unterhausen> instead, he put it on a website and I can't even find a link to it
[19:27:13] <CaptHindsight> boards like that take me a few weeks from laundry list to final BOM and design files
[19:27:28] <eric_unterhausen> so they just didn't know what they were doing
[19:27:39] <CaptHindsight> you need to have a good supply chain for parts
[19:27:40] <eric_unterhausen> although at my rates, a few weeks would be 27k :)
[19:27:59] <CaptHindsight> not just Digikey, Mouser and Avnet
[19:30:41] <CaptHindsight> http://wandboard.org/index.php?start=10 is also on EDM
[19:31:55] <pcw_home> Wandboard was the first I think
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[19:33:25] <CaptHindsight> I can see how to make an EDM module with a shell like a PC-CARD
[19:37:05] <CaptHindsight> to tool up for a connector in China is only a few $K
[19:39:50] <CaptHindsight> I like the idea of a module in a shield/case like a PC-CARD you can swap between gadgets
[19:41:07] <CaptHindsight> the bad side is that it's not good for sales if you can just upgrade a product by swapping modules
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[19:45:36] <Jymmm> That's pretty good (slide the top image)
http://www.kickstarter.com/team
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[21:34:49] <CaptHindsight> PCW: wow, rockchip posted kernel source on github
[21:35:03] <CaptHindsight> https://github.com/linux-rockchip/rockchip-3.0
[21:35:25] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.radxa.com/Main_Page interesting
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[21:40:53] <PCW> so a low cost RK3188 EDM card would be nice
[21:41:19] <PCW> the RK3188 has a GPMC of some sort
[21:47:37] <CaptHindsight> rockchip used to violate gpl by only releasing kernel source under NDA with an SDK
[21:48:52] <PCW> maybe the are wising-up
[21:49:01] <CaptHindsight> I wonder of the pressure from Alwinner releasing all their source had any effect
[21:49:13] <CaptHindsight> maybe
[21:50:04] <PCW> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_goEernujW8
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[21:52:09] <CaptHindsight> well voices carry
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[22:01:15] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/191016483320 $3500 for a plasma table minus the plasma cutter?
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[22:08:25] <mozmck> Not real expensive, but looks pretty cheap.
[22:09:24] <mozmck> One advantage is it looks to be all bolt-together so it could be shipped easily.
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[23:00:57] <CaptHindsight> anyone ever try using two encoder tapes wrapped around a cylinder and read heads to reduce the cost of using one angle encoder?
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[23:44:17] <andypugh> What a marvellous doible-entendre: "but yesterday Chas was reaming his mother's bush for
[23:44:18] <andypugh> a large part of the afternoon, while we looked on and admired his
[23:44:19] <andypugh> style."
[23:54:55] <andypugh> This is what I did with my Christmas. This:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/TUUse9nCn7lmXtBjf0F4AdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink was converted into this:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/q_aq5to74UjQS2-nx1pRINMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
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