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[00:28:16] <NickParker> so what does trivkins actually do?
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[01:09:03] <skunkworks> NickParker: it basically maps joints to axis 1:1
[01:09:31] <skunkworks> vs lets say a hexapod which has a complicated way to translate joints to axis
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[02:40:28] <NickParker> alright so for a standard mill i just toss it in the beginning and don't need to do anything to it?
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[03:01:01] <NickParker> ahh darn andy's asleep. how do i edit mesa firmwares?
[03:01:13] <NickParker> my 3rd stepgen only has 2 output pins instead of 4
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[04:28:57] <Tom_itx> on the 7i71 are all the VFIELD terminals tied together or do they drive different parts of the outputs?
[04:33:55] <Tom_itx> meter says they are...
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[06:54:03] <RyanS> $60 for 10mm dormer button dies... are they serious
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[07:02:46] <Connor> RyanS: ??
[07:08:14] <RyanS> It seems crazy expensive
[07:08:29] <Connor> what kind of button? and it died ?
[07:15:02] <RyanS> Thread cutting dies are expensive for quality, high speed steel
[07:15:50] <Connor> okay.. was confused.
[07:16:05] <Connor> Was thinking you said a button died.. and it was $60.00 to replace it..
[07:16:20] <Connor> not a die to cut one..
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[07:51:44] <_DJ_> moin
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[09:54:49] <Loetmichel> hmm... anyone thinks that could work to convert my chinese CNC6040 to a horizontal mill? to go though 1mm sheet steel? ->
http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/823389/
[09:55:33] <Loetmichel> ... the proxxon FBS 230 i use at the moment for that pourpose has simply not enough power/rigiity for the job
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[11:12:37] <CaptHindsight> Thanksgiving in the US, everyone ate well and is still asleep :)
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[11:26:42] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: and me is sitting at his desk in the company with a BAD cold... no options, work has to be done
[11:27:09] <Loetmichel> at least i can talk again today, yesterday i could only croak
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[13:43:32] <Loetmichel> ok, talked with 5 companys and asked for a 90° angullar drive for the 800W chinese HF spindle... unisono result: "[nelson] HAHAHAHA[/nelson] ... above 20kg weight and SK30 we can help you. "
[13:43:35] <Loetmichel> :-(
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[14:10:58] <TekniQue> Loetmichel: great stuff
[14:11:31] <Loetmichel> ?
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[14:21:07] <TekniQue> why is it so difficult to fit a 90° drive to the chinese spindle?
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[14:53:57] <GuShH> TekniQue: Because, it's Chinese.
[14:55:30] <TekniQue> so
[14:55:37] <TekniQue> it just has an output shaft that turns
[14:55:51] <TekniQue> surely that can be adapted to any other shaft that turns
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[14:59:11] <GuShH> surely
[14:59:19] <GuShH> a coupler has to be made!
[14:59:26] <GuShH> to the machine cave! nanana
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[17:51:51] <IchGuckLive> hi all
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[18:56:21] <IchGuckLive> what a black friday
[18:56:39] <IchGuckLive> sreeets overwormed police fighting castomers
[18:56:58] <IchGuckLive> CNN NBC horable sence
[18:57:40] <IchGuckLive> Flat screen 23" 19.99 why is this locking thing not forbitten
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[18:59:58] <IchGuckLive> in germany there is a price volum tac at 19.9 there have to bee 500+ in stuck
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[19:00:03] <IchGuckLive> stock
[19:00:51] <IchGuckLive> not 10 as in US store No german retailer woudt come down from 139 to 19.99 on 500 pice
[19:01:13] <Tom_itx> it's just to get you in their door
[19:01:24] <IchGuckLive> i know
[19:01:26] <Tom_itx> those 500 pieces probably went in the first 10 min
[19:01:58] <IchGuckLive> but the goverment shoudt have a eye on this days and behaviers the world is watching this on all continents
[19:02:18] <Tom_itx> they don't care
[19:02:22] <IchGuckLive> no it wars 10 pices fighting at 100 people
[19:02:36] <IchGuckLive> 1000 people O.O
[19:03:00] <IchGuckLive> and ive seen one lucky guy
[19:03:38] <IchGuckLive> walking in catching a pice as the 4 others got hand on one and walk away with a SMILE
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[19:11:14] <IchGuckLive> bye for me today have a nive evening
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[19:23:44] <archivist> I did see
http://www.lathes.co.uk/aciera/ a couple of F1 today .....nice toys
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[19:33:39] <andypugh> I could be persuaded to find a home for one
[19:35:28] <archivist> where I got the dividing head, he had a workshop stuffed with toys
[19:36:22] <andypugh> Ah, I was guessing that you had been to see JS
[19:36:30] <archivist> his hobby seems to be workshop clearance and restore/paint and sell, with keeping the best for self
[19:36:43] <archivist> I went to JS after
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[20:29:11] <archivist> if space and money did not matter
https://www.apexauctions.co.uk/auction/auctionDetails.htm?auctionId=1166&utm_source=Pure&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=HOB
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[20:46:19] <Loetmichel> archivist: btw: since i dont have a fB acc i cant see the comment yesterday ;-)
[20:46:48] <archivist> er what, neither do I
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[20:49:59] <skunkworks> that looks like a shaper..
[20:50:09] <skunkworks> *planer
[20:51:55] <archivist> it's luxury goods :)
[20:52:27] <skunkworks> http://chestofbooks.com/home-improvement/workshop/Machine-Shop-Work/Planers.html#.Upj-d3iVvCI
[20:53:02] <skunkworks> we had one that we thought someday we would convert to cnc.. but alas the price of cast overtook the project
[20:53:56] <Loetmichel> archivist: oh sorry, wrong guy
[20:54:11] <Loetmichel> [23:55] <andypugh> Loetmichel: Reminds me of a Facebook comment from a friend:
https://www.facebook.com/stevie.storme/posts/771952839497616
[20:54:23] <Loetmichel> he was the one who was meant
[20:56:01] <archivist> geez that thing weighs 15 tons
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[21:12:26] <FinboySlick> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NICOLAS-CORREA-FP-30-40-BRIDGE-TYPE-CNC-VMC-VERTICAL-MACHINING-CENTER-/190720735115 <--- I need a bigger shed.
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[21:13:13] <archivist> FinboySlick,
http://www.collection.archivist.info/Dads_Shed.JPG
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[21:13:47] <FinboySlick> archivist: Adorable. That's a pretty nice house too, btw.
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[21:59:51] <_DJ_> gn8
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[22:07:44] <andypugh> skunkworks: The SIP is _not_ a planer.
[22:09:12] <andypugh> It's one of these:
http://lathes.co.uk/sip/page2.html
[22:09:21] <andypugh> everything from SIP was lovely.
[22:10:31] <andypugh> Planers are cool in a different way.
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[22:16:02] <andypugh> I had a bit of a realisation just now in the workshop. I may have too much money. I was dismantling an e-bike motor that I had just bought, brand new, from eBay, with no intention of using it, just to see what was inside...
[22:20:45] <desti_> Hi! question: Tcl_SetObjResult(interp, Tcl_NewIntObj(emcStatus->motion.traj.mode == EMC_TRAJ_MODE_TELEOP)); --- condition in param or typo?
[22:30:42] <andypugh> Hard to say
[22:31:35] <cradek> I don't understand your question. can you use more words please?
[22:31:39] <andypugh> Is Tcl typed enough to tell from the function prototype whether it takes int or bool?
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[22:34:05] <NickParker> hey andypugh how would I go about editing the firmware on my 6i25? It's only assigning my 3rd stepgen 2 pins instead of 4
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[22:35:09] <desti_> function must set teleop mode (emcsh.cc, line 3075)
[22:35:34] <andypugh> NickParker: Ah, yes. That's awkward :-)
[22:36:03] <andypugh> There are a couple of 4-pin ones on P3?
[22:36:11] <NickParker> yeah
[22:36:13] <andypugh> (Sorry, on P2.
[22:36:19] <NickParker> and the one 2 pin one
[22:37:02] <andypugh> You need the Xilynx Webkit compiler to ake firmwares.
[22:38:29] <andypugh> It is probably simpler to ask PCW nicely for more pins...
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[22:38:45] <andypugh> Is it working on the other two?
[22:39:07] <NickParker> andypugh: It was working when my .hal file only had one set up. haven't tested with 2.
[22:40:20] <desti_> Tcl_NewIntObj(intValue) but condition send "bool"
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[22:42:33] <cradek> have you seen something working incorrectly that led you there?
[22:42:52] <andypugh> I think you need a newer version of the Xilinx compiler to compile for 6i25
[22:45:35] <desti_> cradek - try to run genprivkins - don't switch to teleop mode
[22:45:38] <andypugh> NickParker: If you look in the software archive for the 6i25 you will foind configs/hostmot2/source and in there is a zip file. There are vhdl files that describe the pinouts for each firmware, and I think you "only" need to edit those files and compile to make a firmware. The Xilinx complier is free, (but not Free)
[22:46:00] <cradek> what is genprivkins?
[22:46:17] <NickParker> andypugh: Where do i get the compiler? a google search only turned up something called Vivado. Is that it?
[22:46:36] <desti_> typo :) gentrivkins
[22:47:15] <cradek> ok now we're getting somewhere. gentrivkins is type KINEMATICS_IDENTITY so you can't switch to teleop mode.
[22:47:26] <cradek> what are you trying to do? back up to the beginning and explain what's wrong.
[22:48:37] <andypugh> NickParker:
http://www.origin.xilinx.com/support/download/index.html/content/xilinx/en/downloadNav/design-tools/v13_4.html
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[22:50:22] <desti_> kins coord="XYYZ", in manual mode try to move axis, X-ok, Y-only one Y motor, Z -second Y motor.
[22:51:08] <andypugh> desti_: You are sure you have the joint commands wired to the correct motors?
[22:51:11] <cradek> what version/branch are you running?
[22:51:27] <NickParker> lol US exports regulations? That's quite the fancy compiler..
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[22:51:47] <desti_> last joint_axes4
[22:52:41] <desti_> when i run gantrykins with that .ini all work correct
[22:53:28] <desti_> when i manually set pin halui..teleop=1 - gentrivkins work correct
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[22:58:46] <cradek> hm, I'm not clear on how gentrivkins is supposed to work -- and I don't understand why you can switch to teleop with an IDENTITY kinematics
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[23:01:37] <desti_> I don't understand too... but how must work this type of kins? i want to move axis in manual mode, i can't!
[23:02:07] <cradek> how are you moving it?
[23:03:50] <desti_> by buttons from keyboard
[23:04:06] <cradek> the arrow keys using AXIS?
[23:04:20] <desti_> yep
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[23:35:35] <desti_> cradek:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/russian/forum/10-advanced-configuration/26854-jointaxes3-and-gentrivkins#40545 --- the same at me
[23:50:28] <desti_> andypugh: my old SIP:
http://www.chipmaker.ru/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=406615
[23:51:10] <andypugh> Horizontal spindles too?
[23:51:43] <desti_> yes
[23:59:28] <desti_> ppl, say me plz... joints != axis? why in some halui.cc function joints initialize via num_axes? for (joint=0; joint < num_axes; joint++) {} for example.. or i don't understand something?
