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[00:03:09] <MacGalempsy> eveing
[00:03:15] <MacGalempsy> evening ;)
[00:03:39] <Tom_itx> tis so
[00:05:03] <MacGalempsy> just woke up about an hour ago.
[00:05:23] <MacGalempsy> getting checked in for work, then having a buddy of mine come over to help figure out this electric door log
[00:05:24] <MacGalempsy> lock
[00:11:19] <CaptHindsight> MacGalempsy: did you get that servo drive sorted out?
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[00:14:07] <MacGalempsy> CaptHindsight: yes its working well
[00:14:12] <MacGalempsy> bout to get back out there
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[00:16:16] <MacGalempsy> the PID tuning is interesting
[00:16:51] <MacGalempsy> i had it PID at 2340, and the Ferror average at cruise is 0.0006
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[01:12:16] <Jymmm> $10 my butt!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrlvqib94xQ
[01:13:59] <Valen> still probably cheaper than you would buy one for
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[01:16:04] <maZer`-> hi all
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[01:16:13] <Jymmm> DIY Check Valve... kinda cool...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6own141z0
[01:17:37] <Jymmm> Valen: Yeah, but the welding cable used alone is at least $10
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[01:18:08] <Jymmm> Valen: I just finished stripping my dead microwave =)
[01:18:43] <Jymmm> The check vlve water pump looks pretty good
[01:22:00] <Tom_itx> don't grab the cap
[01:24:01] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Heh, I haven't discharged it yet either =)
[01:25:11] <Jymmm> I should go do that right now before I forget, brb...
[01:25:21] <Tom_itx> don't use a screwdriver
[01:25:44] <Tom_itx> or your tongue
[01:27:16] <Jymmm> needle nose, and we're good. It has the hugest diode I've ever seen (to chassis ground)
[01:27:53] <Jymmm> as big as a pencil
[01:32:00] <Tom_itx> screw lug?
[01:32:21] <Jymmm> No, they crimped on spade rings
[01:32:30] <Jymmm> / lugs
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[01:36:05] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: the check valves have the problem of a very small "open diamenter"
[01:36:27] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: ah
[01:36:34] <Loetmichel> a smaller ball and a plate inside or a bigger tube after the valve would be better
[01:42:11] <Jymmm> Um, err, "simple"???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdVw5R4JBfc
[01:42:33] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Do you know what the cap is for in the microwave?
[01:42:52] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: simple in function, not in build ;-)
[01:43:14] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: Not by watchign that video!
[01:44:15] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: I'm way too much of a wuss to mess with KV's =)
[01:44:32] <Jymmm> Though, the spot welder I think I'll try.
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[01:49:23] <Felix29> someone here good with speed/feedrates?
[01:49:41] <Tom_itx> we got charts for that
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[01:49:53] <Felix29> yeah, but also for wood with small cutters?
[01:50:04] <Tom_itx> probably
[01:50:06] <Felix29> mine is more of a hobby machine that's homebuilt
[01:50:09] <Felix29> k, thx
[01:50:38] <Tom_itx> http://www.onsrud.com/plusdocs/Doc/index.html?model.code=FeedSpeeds
[01:50:52] <Tom_itx> http://zero-divide.net/index.php?page=fswizard&shell_id=199&load_tool_id=27011
[01:51:20] <Tom_itx> figure your chipload and adjust for what your machine will do
[01:51:49] <Tom_itx> chipload = x material per tooth per rev
[01:52:02] <Felix29> yeah, that I'll be able to calculate
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[01:52:23] <Felix29> right now I am still using those cheap engraver bits, but I wanted to see what size bit goes with the machine
[01:52:27] <Felix29> thanks a lot!
[01:52:57] <Tom_itx> http://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/GCode/Feed-Rate-Calculator.phtml
[01:53:04] <Tom_itx> here's a couple more but not as good
[01:53:17] <Tom_itx> http://www.custompartnet.com/calculator/milling-speed-and-feed
[01:54:44] <Felix29> well those are all for metal
[01:55:28] <Tom_itx> the first one should have some wood info in it
[01:58:36] <Felix29> yeah, got some info from the last one as well
[01:58:50] <Felix29> problem is my only speed comtrol atm is a pot
[01:59:22] <Tom_itx> got an encoder on the spindle?
[01:59:41] <Tom_itx> i added one from an old printer and now i have a tac on screen
[02:00:01] <Felix29> That's what I want to do next
[02:00:08] <Felix29> ideally with a feedback loop
[02:00:29] <Felix29> but I'm not sure yet, because messing that part up could be an expensive mistake
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[02:03:45] <Felix29> Do you know of a cheap spindle around 1-1.5 hp with speed control?
[02:04:01] <Felix29> I was gonna look into routers, but they all go 8000 rpm minimum -.-
[02:04:19] <Loetmichel> define cheap
[02:04:37] <Felix29> less than maybe 400 bucks
[02:04:37] <Loetmichel> i have two chinese 800W watercooled spindles
[02:04:59] <Felix29> hmm, I think I've seen those before
[02:05:21] <Felix29> they looked nice, but they came with 220V VFDs as far as I remember. So that's a little bit of an issue right there
[02:05:45] <Loetmichel> ... which go from 30Hz to 400Hz (iE: 1800 rpm to 24krpm) althoug below 10 hz ther is not much torque
[02:05:49] <Loetmichel> 100 Hz
[02:06:15] <Loetmichel> IIRC the can be ordered with a 110V vfd also
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[02:07:20] <Felix29> That's probably the best solution for me right now
[02:07:45] <Felix29> I don't get my axes moved much faster than 40 IPM, so I guess RPM should be more like 1500 instead of 30000
[02:08:34] <Loetmichel> http://www.ebay.de/itm/1-5KW-WATER-COOLED-MILLING-AND-GRINDING-SPINDLE-MOTOR-WITH-INVERTER-DRIVE-VFD-bf-/181183016929?pt=Motoren_Getriebe&hash=item2a2f596fe1
[02:08:43] <Loetmichel> look at the voltage:
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[02:09:10] <Loetmichel> "3) Voltage: 220V~250V (We also stock 110V~120V item for country like USA and Canada. Please contact us for item stock"
[02:10:03] <Loetmichel> ... just as an example
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[02:10:23] <Felix29> Yeah, that one is 8k rpm and us though
[02:10:28] <Loetmichel> if you search on ebay.com you will find more i suppose
[02:10:40] <Loetmichel> dont bother
[02:10:42] <Felix29> instead of that one, I might try some Hitachi router or something
[02:10:47] <Loetmichel> they run below that
[02:10:54] <Felix29> yeah, I am looking around on there
[02:10:57] <Loetmichel> but the torque goes down
[02:11:22] <maZer`-> What is the best way to create a reference signal, use induction switch oder microswitch, or reflex sensor?
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[07:38:41] <_DJ_> moin
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[08:05:34] <MacGalempsy> hi dj
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[08:12:19] <RyanS> can pretty all 415v 3p motors be fitted with a VFD, or there are some caveats?
[08:12:37] <archivist> yes I told you already :)
[08:12:55] <archivist> some dont have the wiring brought out
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[08:28:36] <RyanS> when... I must be getting forgetful in my old age
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[08:53:00] <Jymmm> Ok, this has the potential to be scary...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8G7atCFSQ
[08:53:00] <RyanS> hey archivist, can pretty all 415v 3p motors be fitted with a VFD? :P
[08:53:01] <Tecan> (LH8G7atCFSQ) "How to turn a drill into a monster shotgun!" by "JoergSprave" is "Tech" - Length: 0:04:29
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[08:59:39] <Jymmm> How to repurpose old saw blades...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q5URmC5BMk
[08:59:40] <Tecan> (-q5URmC5BMk) "Mini Pumpgun Pistol + Circular Saw Blades - Reloaded!" by "JoergSprave" is "Tech" - Length: 0:06:07
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[09:15:49] <RyanS> Look at this, they booted the poor welder outside
http://www.army.mod.uk/rolefinder-content/29/equipment.jpg?h=u8RwGifG7NOMRDZ8tQMfxAbR3J4= "weld outside on the ground and watch out for snipers"
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[10:04:24] <PasstScho> maybe the welding helmet is bullet proof ;)
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[10:23:29] <_DJ_> hi alex
[10:23:57] <sabotender> moo
[10:24:12] <_DJ_> hi mr. moo ;)
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[10:37:37] <sabotender> hi _DJ_
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[12:58:10] <MacGarage> morning
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[14:38:47] <JT_Shop> morning
[14:39:08] <Tom_itx> nice sunny one
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[15:27:48] <MacGalempsy> it is nice out today. we left the screen door open all night
[15:31:56] <Jymmm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCbal2YyaE
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[17:26:50] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[17:28:13] <hiroshima5> hi
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[17:29:50] <IchGuckLive> hiroshima5: did jesus returned mail
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[17:30:25] <hiroshima5> i didn't write him
[17:30:43] <IchGuckLive> so did you some redesign
[17:30:43] <hiroshima5> i'm been doing other things
[17:30:57] <hiroshima5> i change all the profiles
[17:31:09] <hiroshima5> i check them with cype
[17:31:18] <hiroshima5> and with 40x40mm 2mm thick
[17:31:21] <hiroshima5> is enough
[17:31:57] <IchGuckLive> good for your pocket
[17:32:04] <IchGuckLive> wallet also
[17:32:24] <hiroshima5> i've changed hiwin profile
[17:32:28] <IchGuckLive> so now the big dropdown of the servos towards steppers and you are in
[17:32:29] <hiroshima5> for supported shaft
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[17:33:12] <hiroshima5> maybe the thesis director has other servos
[17:33:20] <hiroshima5> with analogic drives
[17:33:33] <hiroshima5> what can be controlled by a mesa fpga
[17:33:41] <IchGuckLive> oh you woudt also go for servos on this system
[17:34:07] <IchGuckLive> Why its 5m/min system so its not nessesary to spend that kind of money
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[17:34:24] <hiroshima5> if he has them already bought and unused
[17:34:38] <IchGuckLive> ok
[17:34:45] <hiroshima5> its more earned money than wasted
[17:34:50] <hiroshima5> but i think like you
[17:34:51] <IchGuckLive> i woudt sell it and build a better one
[17:35:08] <hiroshima5> you know how public universities manage the money
[17:35:11] <hiroshima5> at least on spain
[17:35:21] <IchGuckLive> i know
[17:35:29] <IchGuckLive> its a hell of a miss
[17:35:47] <hiroshima5> i only want an easy combination
[17:35:49] <IchGuckLive> and then it is in the corner somwhere odding for years
[17:35:51] <hiroshima5> of motor and drives
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[18:26:44] <t12> ~.
[18:26:51] <t12> er
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[18:27:37] <sono> it's alive!
[18:30:13] <terabyte-> congratulations
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[21:21:09] <Jymmm> JT_Shop: Home made rocket fuel...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUYxk-y-tU8
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[21:25:10] <Tom_itx> guys around here make their own
[21:25:17] <Tom_itx> solid
[21:25:27] <Jymmm> JT_Shop: DIY Slow burning fuse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-H02hwvVgI
[21:25:38] <Tom_itx> you sure love youtube
[21:26:31] <Tom_itx> last 5 posts were youtube links
[21:26:42] <Jymmm> You learn new stuff very quickly and can rewind
[21:27:11] <Tom_itx> i blew my limit on bits this month
[21:27:15] <Tom_itx> over 500G
[21:27:32] <Jymmm> cellphone?
[21:27:36] <Tom_itx> isp
[21:28:03] <Jymmm> ouch, limited only by BPS here
[21:28:34] <Tom_itx> sent me a couple nasty emails but that's about it
[21:28:51] <Jymmm> iirc I have 18/2
[21:29:13] <Tom_itx> 25/5 maybe
[21:29:39] <Tom_itx> i've never really looked
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[22:11:15] <_DJ_> gn8
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[23:53:00] <FreezingCold> Why isn't LinuxCNC just a Debian or Ubuntu package...?
[23:53:17] <Jymmm> Needs a RTOS Kernel
[23:53:48] <FreezingCold> er, linux-rt?
[23:54:39] <FreezingCold> Pretty sure literally every distro supports that
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