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[01:25:27] <BlackSonOfAfrica> Hey linux cnc anyone here with laser experience?
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[02:09:25] <Tecan> BSOA sure
[02:09:38] <Tecan> you looking to hire ?
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[06:45:50] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[07:42:59] <plasma_ger> hi i am in a little logic trouble
[07:43:35] <plasma_ger> thcud.enable is a bit IN and set by user M-code that works good
[07:43:57] <plasma_ger> now i woudt like to see in pyvcp a led indicating that
[07:44:07] <plasma_ger> the led is also n
[07:44:10] <plasma_ger> IN
[07:44:28] <plasma_ger> how does i manage that without a out
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[08:09:44] <plasma_ger> i hacked the thcud comp for a out pin
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[15:00:35] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
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[15:09:50] <IchGuckLive> not many postings today
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[15:42:48] <servos4ever> Maybe everyone is in Kansas today...?
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[15:54:26] <cradek> yes there are a LOT of people here
[15:56:11] <archivist> grmbl...I am not ....snifff
[15:57:42] <archivist> I saw no cats on these pics
http://www.wallacecompany.com/mpm-2013/
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[16:59:56] <eric_unterhausen> I feel like going through all the gigabyte mobos on newegg and downgrading them because they can't boot from usb
[17:00:23] <eric_unterhausen> apparently you have to format the flash drive fat16
[17:00:36] <eric_unterhausen> and it can't have partitions
[17:01:50] <eric_unterhausen> so much misinformation on the interwebs, it's a little scary
[17:02:03] <Loetmichel> hmm
[17:03:09] <Loetmichel> my last gigabuyte mobo has booted both from a fat32 flash and from a partitioned stick with ubuntu(ext4) and a swap on it
[17:03:28] <Loetmichel> ... so no, cant verify your statement
[17:03:53] <eric_unterhausen> I guess that's why there is so much misinformation, they randomly put different bioses on different boards
[17:04:04] <eric_unterhausen> how recent was that board?
[17:04:17] <Loetmichel> about a year old
[17:04:26] <eric_unterhausen> intel or amd?
[17:04:32] <Loetmichel> amd
[17:04:45] <Loetmichel> didnt rememer which one, though
[17:04:46] <eric_unterhausen> that shoots holes in my theory :)
[17:04:54] <eric_unterhausen> I have an e350
[17:05:03] <eric_unterhausen> it is stubbornly resisting my efforts
[17:05:24] <Loetmichel> the PC had a watercooling, maybe one copuld see the type on the photo...
[17:06:42] <Loetmichel> sorry, no luck, cant see it
[17:06:56] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=4050
[17:07:05] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=4047
[17:07:19] <eric_unterhausen> I have no idea, but gigabyte motherboard doesn't boot from usb brings up an unlimited supply of hits
[17:08:00] <Loetmichel> hmm, maybe this board is a bit older than a year... more like five IIRC
[17:08:16] <archivist> is that because there is an unlimited supply of users who did not set the boot option in bios
[17:08:24] <Jymmm> Yeah, IDE,
[17:08:40] <eric_unterhausen> archivist, there is an unlimited supply of people that give that answer, but it's wrong
[17:08:50] <Jymmm> or enabled Legacy USB support in the BIOS
[17:09:07] <eric_unterhausen> that's the bios default
[17:09:09] <eric_unterhausen> on my board
[17:09:13] <eric_unterhausen> and also usb storage
[17:09:40] <eric_unterhausen> I just went downstairs because I thought that would solve the problem, wasted trip
[17:10:30] <eric_unterhausen> the two solutions I haven't tried is inserting the usb drive at a magic moment during the boot process and formatting the flash with fat16
[17:10:55] <Jymmm> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90858.0
[17:11:00] <eric_unterhausen> and I guess my usb is too cheap to work
[17:11:31] <Jymmm> IMPORTANT!!! : DO NOT select USB-HDD
[17:11:56] <Jymmm> so it says
[17:12:21] <eric_unterhausen> the usb disk doesn't show up in the list, that was the third thing I tried
[17:12:43] <eric_unterhausen> the bios still supports ls120 and iomega zip drives though
[17:12:54] <Jymmm> lol
[17:13:15] <Jymmm> Too bad I only have USB Zip drive =)
[17:13:19] <eric_unterhausen> I barely remember the ls120, I don't think it was that big of a deal
[17:13:36] <Jymmm> It was, just expensive
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[17:13:48] <eric_unterhausen> I am pretty sure all of the zip drives on the bios menu are related to iomega
[17:14:02] <eric_unterhausen> zip definitely stayed around for quite some time
[17:14:03] <Jymmm> 120MB 3.5" Floppy
[17:14:42] <Jymmm> Yeah, zip were cool. I still have mine.
[17:15:03] <Jymmm> Jazz were a pain, but you could boot from them.
[17:15:31] <eric_unterhausen> it's a little shocking how that business has changed
[17:15:48] <Jymmm> what business?
[17:15:55] <eric_unterhausen> storage
[17:15:58] <Jymmm> removeable storage?
[17:16:06] <eric_unterhausen> in particular, yes
[17:16:26] <Jymmm> Did you forget about bernulli drives too =)
[17:16:46] <eric_unterhausen> yeah, I can barely remember them
[17:17:43] <Jymmm> zip 100mb, now 64,000mb uSD the size of a fingernail
[17:17:49] <eric_unterhausen> I have entertained the theory that the NSA spying is keeping the disk drive companies in business
[17:17:57] <eric_unterhausen> that and porn
[17:18:24] <Loetmichel> hrhr, if i look around here: 2 zip10 drives in dirct visibility and about 10 disks ;-)
[17:18:57] <Loetmichel> and the iomega rev that sits in the Fileserver behind me ;-)
[17:19:02] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: The sad part is THEY ARE INSIGHT =)
[17:19:17] <eric_unterhausen> I would back it up to a couple of flash drives and recycle everything
[17:19:42] <eric_unterhausen> how long is a magnetic floppy type disk good for? Not more than a couple of decades, that seems obvious
[17:19:56] <Jymmm> eric_unterhausen: wanna bet?
[17:20:07] <Loetmichel> eric_unterhausen: wont second that
[17:20:10] <eric_unterhausen> there is a distribution
[17:20:34] <Loetmichel> i have 5.25" disks here that are still readable... last time written: 1989
[17:20:39] <eric_unterhausen> I wouldn't count on it for anything important to me
[17:20:47] <Jymmm> sidenote... I just found 5 SEALED 3.5" Floppies with lifetime warranty =)
[17:20:54] <Jymmm> ^boxes
[17:21:43] <eric_unterhausen> Q: I went in to my bios and now my computer won't boot at all why are newbie morons like you giving bad advice?
[17:21:44] <eric_unterhausen> A: I may be a moron but at least I know how to clear the CMOS using the supplied jumper on the motherboard.
[17:22:25] <eric_unterhausen> ^ from the bitcoin site referenced above
[17:22:29] <Loetmichel> harhar
[17:22:35] <Jymmm> 25 Years of storage...
http://i45.tinypic.com/2zqe8pg.jpg
[17:23:19] <eric_unterhausen> the problem with microSD is that if they make it any smaller it will not be human usable
[17:23:47] <eric_unterhausen> I was lucky I didn't lose the most recent one I bought, it fell out of the packaging at a particularly bad time
[17:24:34] <Jymmm> I adopted uSD as my "standard" long ago. No USB sticks for me.
[17:25:09] <Loetmichel> neat @ Jymmm... to top that:
http://www.howtogeek.com/106777/1980-to-2010-8-ibm-3380-disk-systems-versus-1-microsd-card-image/
[17:25:42] <eric_unterhausen> I had an IBM hard drive
[17:25:44] <Loetmichel> hrhr... should do also... if i look in my trousers pockets...
[17:25:51] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: heh =) and they are waterproof too.
[17:25:54] <eric_unterhausen> it used a three phase motor for the spindle, which I still have
[17:25:58] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14103
[17:26:04] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=13549
[17:26:07] <eric_unterhausen> like a 1/3 horse induction motor
[17:26:15] <Loetmichel> ... it grows ;-)
[17:26:54] <Loetmichel> s/if/when (sorry, german fault) ;-)
[17:27:17] <Jymmm> BTW... These are AWESOME...
http://dx.com/p/kawau-world-s-smallest-microsd-transflash-tf-sd-sdhc-usb-2-0-card-reader-keychain-25558
[17:27:44] <Jymmm> It's also what I boot my NAS from
[17:28:08] <Loetmichel> ... and yes, all that (exept the caliper) is in my right trousers pocket. always ;-)
[17:28:15] <eric_unterhausen> what mobo do you use on your nas? not gigabyte I hope
[17:28:45] <Jymmm> It's a POS Tyan server mobo
[17:28:56] <eric_unterhausen> loved Tyan
[17:29:03] <Jymmm> Fuck tyan
[17:29:21] <eric_unterhausen> yeah, last experience I had was not good
[17:29:23] <Jymmm> If it loses power, it wipes the CMOS settings.
[17:29:35] <Jymmm> no not the battery, known issue.
[17:29:55] <eric_unterhausen> sounds like beagleboards
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[17:30:01] <Jymmm> heh
[17:30:03] <IchGuckLive> hi all !
[17:30:03] <eric_unterhausen> except it wipes the sd card
[17:30:10] <Jymmm> ouch
[17:30:33] <eric_unterhausen> Jon Elson says it's ext4, so I might try going back to ext3
[17:31:07] <IchGuckLive> ext4 is the better one for higher speed and larger files
[17:31:15] <Jymmm> That uSD to USB adapter also has a blue activity LED that stays lit when no activity to remind you it's plugged in.
[17:31:26] <eric_unterhausen> yes, but apparently it can't handle too many abrupt power loss
[17:32:04] <eric_unterhausen> Jymmm, I want one that's twice that size so I can remove it without using a screwdriver
[17:32:39] <Jymmm> eric_unterhausen: No need, I can ever remve the uSD card from the adapter without tools.
[17:32:45] <Jymmm> even*
[17:33:01] <Jymmm> eric_unterhausen: and I have no fingernails either.
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[17:33:27] <eric_unterhausen> my top 100 file system requirements: 1 reliability 2 reliability 3 reliability ..... 99 reliability 100 performance on large files
[17:33:31] <Jymmm> eric_unterhausen: They have been great adapters.
[17:33:57] <eric_unterhausen> Jymmm, good point, you don't have to remove the usb thingy
[17:34:21] <eric_unterhausen> the small usb wifi cards have problem because of heat transfer, apparently
[17:34:45] <Jymmm> heh
[17:34:48] <eric_unterhausen> seems to be my experience, too hard to really tell with absolute certainty
[17:35:13] <Jymmm> I dont use usb RF, though I have a couple
[17:35:14] <IchGuckLive> eric_unterhausen: this might be reisa
[17:36:01] <Jymmm> But those adaters are great for repurposing older/smaller uSD cards
[17:36:30] <Jymmm> and dont stick out to be obtrusive and SNAP
[17:36:48] <eric_unterhausen> I was hoping that I could go diskless with my linuxcnc boxen
[17:37:02] <eric_unterhausen> but people seem to have latency problems
[17:37:18] <Jymmm> net boot?
[17:37:28] <eric_unterhausen> so I went with compact flash/sata adapter
[17:38:04] <eric_unterhausen> If I wasn't too lazy to set up a NAS, maybe netboot would work
[17:38:23] <Jymmm> Well, the NAS doesn't write to the uSD like a regular OS does.
[17:39:02] <eric_unterhausen> I mean there has to be a reliable server to netboot off of
[17:39:17] <Jymmm> And I can just image it easily to
[17:42:03] <Jymmm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JViLMjMj7wA
[17:42:04] <Tecan> (JViLMjMj7wA) "Lecteur Carte MicroSD DealExtreme" by "un3rsal" is "Entertainment" - Length: 0:00:47
[17:44:43] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: eric_unterhausen: Wanna talk about technology changing... The new (used) iMac doesn't come with install media now. Sure there is a hidden RESTORE partition, but even if you replace the HDD you can actually restore the OS over the internet now.
[17:45:40] <Jymmm> even via wifi.
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[17:46:14] <IchGuckLive> Yea us goverment takes a full backup of your OS worldwide O.O B)
[17:46:22] <Jymmm> That too
[17:46:43] <Jymmm> and the NSA won't give a copy of my backup... bastards.
[17:46:51] <Loetmichel> hrhr, right, IchGuckLive
[17:48:37] <Jymmm> FOIA Letter: "Dear NSA, my computer crashed, please provide a copy of back for my system. Thank you"
[17:48:41] <Loetmichel> hmmm, just got a second 2tb drive for the PC of my wife. installing win7... interesting how she got the tb and 250gb drives already in there nearly full
[17:49:09] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: She has a better pr0n collection than you?
[17:49:23] <Loetmichel> and on this 16MBit adsl line i doubt that the NSA will be able to copy it over the net ;-)
[17:49:38] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: s/porn/sitcom/scifi series
[17:49:43] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: They dont have to, they do it at the core routers.
[17:49:54] <Loetmichel> ???
[17:50:14] <Jymmm> Mae-West, PARX, etc
[17:50:44] <Loetmichel> Jymmm:
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=11615 <- all original dvds ;-)
[17:51:09] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: Screw that, NAS ftw =)
[17:51:19] <Loetmichel> i meant: this line has 1Mbit upload.
[17:51:32] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: same here.
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[17:52:07] <Loetmichel> to get the ~3-5tb data out of this home will be a daunting task, especially if the users should not register the upload ;-)
[17:52:14] <Jymmm> there's a LOT of idle time as you are not utilizing it 100% 24/7
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[17:54:00] <IchGuckLive> NSA trowed me offline
[17:57:09] <IchGuckLive> Jymmm: femals got so many stuff inthere closets so why not filing up a HDD
[17:57:21] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: You might look into a nntp account insttead of all those dvds =)
[17:58:11] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: its the hobby if my wife: collecting Films and series on DVD
[17:58:14] <IchGuckLive> adultfilmcentral dot com B)
[17:58:43] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: She still can, just on your NAS instead =)
[17:58:52] <Loetmichel> and she is even opposed to ripping them and storing them on a nas because oft the illegality in germany
[17:59:00] <Jymmm> ah
[17:59:35] <Loetmichel> ant the "nas" over here is my fileserver
[17:59:52] <Loetmichel> which has to get some big piles of rotating rust soon...
[17:59:55] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: how has meen the storm at your place friday
[18:00:00] <Loetmichel> nearly full and much to small
[18:00:33] <Loetmichel> IchGuckLive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y456lJMXs3A
[18:00:34] <Tecan> (Y456lJMXs3A) "Weltuntergang live" by "Loetmichel" is "People" - Length: 0:00:52
[18:01:04] <IchGuckLive> Yeah that has been a big storm around here
[18:01:34] <IchGuckLive> im off by
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[18:17:26] <eric_unterhausen> had to wash the dog, going to see if I can browbeat the gigabyte into booting, otherwise it's try to find a working cdrom drive
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[18:51:56] <eric_unterhausen> well, it didn't say boot failed this time
[18:52:05] <eric_unterhausen> but it hasn't shown any sign of booting yet
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[18:54:57] <Aero-Tec2> I hope I have my new HAL file done correctly
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[18:55:07] <Aero-Tec2> going to see if it loads
[18:56:02] <Aero-Tec2> what is the best way to test if the spindle encoder is working 100% correct?
[18:56:12] <Aero-Tec2> hal meter?
[18:56:41] <Aero-Tec2> the index was working and I was getting RPMs from index
[18:58:15] <Aero-Tec2> wanting to add encoder phase-A in counter mode as there is no phase-B
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[19:00:21] <Aero-Tec2> it is my guess that I have things wrong or at the very least I have things in there that are not needed or may be wanted in there
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[19:01:16] <Aero-Tec2> would like to have someone that is a HAL file guy to look it over and help me with anything that may need a tweak
[19:01:19] <Aero-Tec2> thanks
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[19:02:17] <Aero-Tec2> BTW what does phase-A/counter actually do?
[19:02:40] <Aero-Tec2> how does EMC use it?
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[19:05:49] <Aero-Tec2> I know it give EMC more info on speed and position of spindle , but that is all I know, would like to know how phase-A is used by EMC, more on the inner workings if possible
[19:05:58] <Aero-Tec2> thanks
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[19:28:14] <eric_unterhausen> my mother in law got a spyware infection and they called her offering to clean it up. Pretty good scam
[19:30:32] <archivist> I just cleaned a laptop for a friend who got a trojan that demanded money claiming to be from the cops
[19:31:03] <Jymmm> eric_unterhausen: how did they get her number?
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[19:34:16] <Aero-Tec2> a friend got a call from India saying they worked for Micro Soft and that hew computer had notified MS that her computer had a virus, my friend said that was funny as hew computer and a Apple, the guy from India got mad at her for having a Apple computer and hung up
[19:34:24] <Aero-Tec2> LOL
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[19:34:59] <Jymmm> Windows... the oldest profitable virus I know.
[19:35:04] <Aero-Tec2> I need to proof read more
[19:35:09] <Aero-Tec2> what a mess
[19:35:17] <Aero-Tec2> LOL
[19:35:23] <Aero-Tec2> I agree
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[19:37:11] <Jymmm> archivist: While all those "cleaning" products can be effective. I always just blow away one of my user's machine. It's the only 100% sure way you've gotten rid of it all, because there was a volnerability that got it there in the first place that needs to be addressed.
[19:37:11] <Roguish> hey all. little linux help. how do I get the address of the printer port?
[19:39:35] <Jymmm> lsmod | grep parport
[19:40:42] <Roguish> thanks, but that doesn't seem to show the 'base address' ?????
[19:43:21] <Roguish> i'm trying to be sure the port is 0x378, or what ever it is.
[19:47:02] <Nick001-Shop> 0x378 is the default parport address unless you played in bios
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[20:05:04] <Jymmm> Not always, some are 0x037B
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[20:15:11] <Nick001-Shop> Perhaps on an oddball MB, I've been through a lot of boards and that's been the default address for a motherboard parport. The other one is 0x278 in bios.
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[20:32:24] <eric_unterhausen> I'm officially stumped, cannot get my mobo to boot from usb
[20:32:50] <eric_unterhausen> even tried the "insert usb stick at the magic moment when booting" advise
[20:33:01] <eric_unterhausen> wonder if newegg would take it back
[20:35:01] <archivist> I hate it when my box here reboots and I forget to remove the backup disk.....
[20:35:25] <archivist> it boots fine on usb :(((( slowly
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[20:37:36] <eric_unterhausen> I've had that problem and don't like it much either, but any mobo made in the last 5 years that can't boot from usb fairly easily is not something that should ship from a reputable manufacturer
[20:38:02] <eric_unterhausen> they seem to be the only manufaturer with this issue
[20:38:34] <eric_unterhausen> i really don't want to buy a cd drive to run this thing, that's just stupid
[20:41:14] <eric_unterhausen> seems like a nice board though
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[20:44:54] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[20:53:23] <eric_unterhausen> sent gigabyte an email, curious if they reply
[20:53:48] <eric_unterhausen> getting a pci slot is getting a lot harder
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[21:10:22] <eric_unterhausen> is it actually possible to do a net install?
[21:10:45] <eric_unterhausen> without first running something on a local storage device?
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[21:57:44] <Jymmm> hey, whats the best way to clean a firearm that hasn't seen the light of day in decades?
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[21:58:32] <Jymmm> I dont have access to a hot dip tank, any other ideas?
[21:59:00] <Jymmm> I DO have some 1,1,1, but I'd rather not use it.
[21:59:19] <eric_unterhausen> gunsmith?
[21:59:27] <Jymmm> Especially since it's extinct and illegal =)
[21:59:38] <Jymmm> eric_unterhausen: what about it?
[21:59:54] * roycroft votes for cleaning it with no bullets in it
[21:59:55] <eric_unterhausen> trade money for services?
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[22:00:00] <Jymmm> Why?
[22:00:24] <eric_unterhausen> your choice, you are asking on a cnc irc channel :)
[22:00:28] <Jymmm> roycroft: wuss
[22:00:43] <Jymmm> eric_unterhausen: Yes, one where metal work is performed.
[22:01:04] <eric_unterhausen> I think most of the people that shoot themselves while cleaning were actually playing with the gun
[22:01:52] <eric_unterhausen> it's an incredibly common story, and hard to believe. I also like the ones that checked the chamber but didn't see a bullet
[22:02:09] <eric_unterhausen> makes me laugh just to think about it
[22:02:31] <Loetmichel> eric_unterhausen: i was live at such an incident
[22:02:51] <jdh> and luckily, you still are.
[22:03:00] <Loetmichel> military service, had doorwatch
[22:03:08] <eric_unterhausen> I'm lucky I survived Air Force weapons training
[22:03:22] <Loetmichel> gave my weapon to my successor at changing shifts...
[22:04:03] <Loetmichel> he cocked the gun, looed into the chamber... "ok, empty" ... and dischaged tha gun...
[22:04:11] <eric_unterhausen> went to the range 4 times, twice ended up looking down the barrel of a loaded gun
[22:04:25] <Loetmichel> ... i was to slow to tell him that he forgot to remove the magazine
[22:04:51] <jdh> hey y'all, watch this.
[22:05:53] <eric_unterhausen> from what I have heard, U.S. army has a procedure for people entering a base with loaded weapons which involves aiming at a sand-filled barrel as the last step.
[22:06:09] <jdh> or steel bullet traps
[22:06:21] <eric_unterhausen> long, sad experience behind that, I'm sure
[22:07:00] <Loetmichel> -> *bang* -> niche kittle 7.62mm hole in the hull of our ship ;-)
[22:07:02] <eric_unterhausen> my boss asks me why I don't want to go to the gun range
[22:07:04] <Loetmichel> little
[22:07:37] <Loetmichel> <- navvy, we aim at the water normally
[22:07:51] <jdh> <- redneck, we aim at anything
[22:07:57] <Loetmichel> hrhr
[22:08:07] <eric_unterhausen> nice, I hope he just about choked filling out the paperwork
[22:08:36] <eric_unterhausen> first time when I saw the barrel of the gun pointed at me, I just froze
[22:09:04] <eric_unterhausen> second time, I put down my gun pointed downrange and walked to the back of the range, because the range supervisor was going to tell us to do that anyway
[22:09:41] <eric_unterhausen> in an unkind fashion
[22:10:06] <Loetmichel> let me guess: you were in a hurry?
[22:10:28] <eric_unterhausen> no, it's still a shock when the range supervisor starts screaming
[22:11:09] <Jymmm> jdh: what state you in?
[22:11:12] <eric_unterhausen> but at least I wasn't going to be in the way when the gun fired
[22:11:36] <Jymmm> jdh: FL ?
[22:11:38] <Tom_itx> are they meeting again at stuart's tomorrow?
[22:11:49] <Tom_itx> or is today it...
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[22:18:25] <eric_unterhausen> I guess I'm going to format a few more usb flash drives in the vain hope that changes something
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[22:26:28] <eric_unterhausen> pxe has a lot of promise, you would think it wouldnt' take a hacker to make it work
[22:29:20] <jdh> .nc.us currently.
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[22:30:44] <jdh> but, I get to go to florida in a week or so.
[22:31:16] <eric_unterhausen> I was really surprised how nice it could be in Fla in the summer
[22:31:21] <eric_unterhausen> but I wasn't inland
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[22:32:11] <jdh> I'll be inland, diving... wearing thermal undergarments and a black drysuit while it is 35c
[22:32:49] <eric_unterhausen> be safe
[22:33:14] <jdh> always!
[22:34:08] <eric_unterhausen> my mother is a caver, I've always thought going very far into a cave was like jumping out of a perfectly good airplane
[22:34:42] <eric_unterhausen> water-filled caves even moreso
[22:34:48] <jdh> we won't be going in more than 1.5km
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[23:01:49] <Jymmm> jdh: what state you in?
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[23:12:25] <cmorley> Is the author of the Mocca GUI for linuxcnc programmed in Pascal here?
[23:12:58] <cmorley> I wish to ask about run-from-line tricks he may have used...
[23:13:05] <pfred1> mmmmm Mocca...
[23:13:34] <Tom_itx> run from line would be a good thing
[23:15:05] <Tom_itx> especially if you could input the line instead of using the last line run
[23:15:46] <pfred1> I think I'm getting too old to solder
[23:15:55] <Tom_itx> never
[23:15:59] <Tom_itx> just get better optics
[23:16:14] <pfred1> I'm starting to develop somewhat of a shake too
[23:16:25] <pfred1> like my nerves are shot or something
[23:17:35] <pfred1> but yeah even with magnification things are not as in focus as they used to be either
[23:18:06] <Tom_itx> i use a binocular scope for the small stuff
[23:18:39] <cmorley> I am interested in having it restart spindle and turn on coolant etc before the abort was given.
[23:19:24] <Tom_itx> cmorley, that's why i thought it would be a good idea to be able to pick the line even if you have to repeat a few lines
[23:19:52] <Tom_itx> or honor MDI when switching back to auto
[23:19:57] <cmorley> I can pick the line in Gscreen already.
[23:20:18] <Tom_itx> i've only messed with axis so far
[23:20:43] <cmorley> means I have to have the M and S codes close to where I aborted
[23:21:28] <Tom_itx> or somehow have it honor MDI before it restarts
[23:21:44] <cmorley> I'm pretty sure Mocca parsed the gcode file and figured out what was turned on and what wasn't before restarting
[23:41:41] <Roguish> hey again. I have a new install of the liveCD 10.04. get error 'Can not find -sec MOT -var MOT -num 1' etc...... What's up with this?
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[23:50:12] <Tom_itx> is the hardware connected and powered?
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[23:52:12] <pfred1> I have 4 more wires to solder
[23:52:21] <pfred1> but not today
[23:52:52] <pfred1> today I welded an armillary
[23:53:08] <Tom_itx> not sure what that is
[23:53:30] <pfred1> kind of looks like a globe with an arrow shot through it?
[23:53:39] <Tom_itx> oh
[23:54:30] <pfred1> yeah i bought a beat one at a yard sale it had rotted apart
[23:55:00] <pfred1> Saturday is junk day!
[23:55:20] <pfred1> I gout out and get junk and fix it up
[23:55:30] <pfred1> go out even
[23:56:20] <Jymmm> I dont have access to a hot dip tank, any idead on cleaning a firearm that hasn't seen the light of day in decades?
[23:56:38] <pfred1> vinegar
[23:56:46] <Jymmm> really?
[23:56:51] <pfred1> works on saw blades
[23:57:06] <Tom_itx> pickeling
[23:57:07] <pfred1> turns rust into this black mush that you can wipe off
[23:57:16] <Tom_itx> not sure if that would do any harm though
[23:57:28] <pfred1> in my experience it is pretty mellow
[23:57:30] <Tom_itx> may be similar to vinegar
[23:57:42] <Jymmm> soak for how long?
[23:57:48] <Jymmm> in vinegar
[23:57:51] <pfred1> whatever vinegar rips off you won't want anyways
[23:58:07] <pfred1> well you can pull it out from time to time and wipe it off stop when you're happy
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[23:58:42] <Jymmm> We're talking 40+ years of dried out grease, gun powder, etc
[23:58:45] <pfred1> it isn't too fast like it will take hours at least
[23:59:23] <pfred1> but fully immerse the piece I don't know what a liquid air transisition would do
[23:59:41] <pfred1> like have whatever you are soaking fully in the vinegar
[23:59:53] <Jymmm> Yeah, I get it
