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[00:12:24] <tjtr33> andypugh thats a good deal, 1500W bike motors are near 500$ ( 48v @ 30A cont ) very interesting.
[00:12:26] <tjtr33> tho i dont see F&P machines in the boneyard here, thats pretty new stuff
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[00:37:32] <tjtr33> can vismach have a cylinder that is not aligned to a cartesian axis?
[00:37:38] <tjtr33> working on a vismach of this
http://www.cybamantech.co.uk/res/img/custom/cybamanr_lg.jpg
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[00:55:09] <tjtr33> http://imagebin.org/259764
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[01:01:26] <archivist> try to make the parts in order from the mounted base to the work cylinder rather than draw the two then attempt to join
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[01:03:02] <tjtr33> thx, iwas working from the tool tip down. but stymied at a cyclinder whose axis isnt on x y or z
[01:05:25] <tjtr33> http://pastebin.com/N4EeCeKF
[01:08:48] <tjtr33> doh i think i can just Translate the form
[01:12:15] <PetefromTn> tjtr33 What software are you using man?
[01:12:47] <archivist> it is vismach that comes with linuxcnc
[01:14:19] <tjtr33> you got it ( haha dbl meaning )
[01:15:06] <tjtr33> its just a text file
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[01:18:07] <PetefromTn> doh..
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[01:37:45] <andypugh> Vismach is cool. I just wish it had any documentation at all...
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[01:38:23] <archivist> write it some :0
[01:38:25] <PetefromTn> we chattin about cad?
[01:38:34] <archivist> visualisation
[01:38:56] <archivist> of the machine itself
[01:39:01] <PetefromTn> newbie
[01:39:11] <PetefromTn> what machine?
[01:39:32] <archivist> any, see the examples
[01:40:19] <PetefromTn> so its a 3d digitizer
[01:40:32] <archivist> no
[01:40:45] <andypugh> PetefromTn: No, it is a virtual machine that responds to your G-code and config
[01:40:57] <PetefromTn> interesting.
[01:41:02] <PetefromTn> got a link?
[01:41:25] <PetefromTn> this a linuxCNC thing or otherwise?
[01:41:29] <archivist> examples are already on your machine
[01:41:45] <PetefromTn> okay
[01:41:47] <PetefromTn> thanks
[01:41:47] <andypugh> PetefromTn: There are some sample configs with it. try selecting the puma robot sim from the config chooser.
[01:42:03] <PetefromTn> oh so it is in the simulators
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[01:42:18] <PetefromTn> forgive my ignorance on all that linuxCNC can do.
[01:42:52] <PetefromTn> just downloaded freecad tonight.
[01:43:00] <PetefromTn> anyone here use it?
[01:44:57] <tjtr33> pete that maho 600 even has an example on your machine
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[01:45:30] <PetefromTn> tjtr33 Gonna have to look at it. thanks
[01:48:25] <PetefromTn> sure wish mirc would show me what the conversation was before I logged on. Quassel seemed to do that.
[01:48:51] <PetefromTn> It seems I miss a lot when I get kicked off by my internet
[01:49:29] <skunkworks-> logger[psha]:
[01:49:40] <archivist> PetefromTn, there are a number of logs
http://emclog.archivist.info/
[01:50:12] <PetefromTn> yeah I know but it was nice to login and have quassel just load them up. Can Mirc do that somehow?
[01:50:25] <PetefromTn> I looked for an option but did not find one.
[01:50:39] <archivist> not aware of
[01:50:51] <archivist> logs are all different
[01:51:29] <PetefromTn> Anyways, do any of you use or have used Freecad 3d?
[01:52:57] <PetefromTn> been watching the youtube tutorials and it seems pretty nice.
[01:53:13] <archivist> no but I do provide the channel log for freecad
http://freecadlog.archivist.info/
[01:53:22] <PetefromTn> The only thing I am having a problem with is that it is only able to use metric native units..
[01:53:58] <archivist> ask in #freecad
[01:54:14] <PetefromTn> so they have an IRC channel then.
[01:54:20] <PetefromTn> that sounds good
[01:54:26] <archivist> although much lower traffic than in here
[01:54:36] <PetefromTn> it certainly seems pretty nice for a free modeler.
[01:55:50] <PetefromTn> I am totally new to the IRC thing, how do you find these other channels. I was lucky to find my way here and honestly Connor helped me with that. I am not a tech guy at all really
[01:56:46] <archivist> /join #channelname with the / at the start of the line no spaces as I deliberately just did
[01:57:12] <PetefromTn> can you be on multiple chats at once?
[01:57:28] <archivist> sure Im in about 20
[01:57:34] <skunkworks-> tjtr33: love to see that running....
[01:57:35] <PetefromTn> cool..
[01:58:22] <PetefromTn> just did a file..new window.. then tried to join channel and it did not work.
[01:58:35] <PetefromTn> is freecad on freenode?
[01:58:46] <archivist> yes
[01:59:05] <tjtr33> skunkworks, i got a robot from hgr, IF i figger the encoder scheme i may be able to make it real, but wanting the sim for learning now
[01:59:25] <tjtr33> the robot is 6 dof and 3 would be like the twisty arm abc
[01:59:39] <PetefromTn> it says I have not registered and says /nick
[01:59:56] <archivist> in this current window type the /join #freecad , a new window opens
[02:00:51] <PetefromTn> excellent... thanks man and I apologize for not knowing jack about IRC's
[02:01:10] <archivist> or edit your channel list to auto join #chan1,#chan2,#chanetc
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[02:02:39] <tjtr33> archivist, whats the 4 parms for rotary translation ? as in "brotary = HalRotate([brotary],c,"tilt",1,0,-1,0)"
[02:02:59] <tjtr33> ( sorry i should dig out the src )
[02:03:15] <archivist> tjtr33, I would have to read some source to work it out :(
[02:03:37] <tjtr33> :) np, in there now
[02:04:29] <tjtr33> hehe the src is in ../lib
[02:05:06] <PetefromTn> trying to do the autojoin, it loads a channels list but I don't see how to autojoin
[02:05:15] <tjtr33> theta x y z
[02:05:46] <tjtr33> theta? maybe 012 for abc i guess
[02:05:49] <archivist> PetefromTn, you need to read some mirc docs
[02:06:06] <PetefromTn> I'm sure
[02:08:18] <PetefromTn> I think I just found the option in add to favorites.
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[02:10:47] <tjtr33> re HalRotate dunno what the 'th' is ... but the last 3 parms, just set one of 'em to 1, its the axis to be spun round, and the sign is cw/ccw
[02:12:22] <tjtr33> if this was a heidenhain ctl i could spilt it up and translate about any vector in space (0, .83, .4177 ) its an openGL thing, not really linuxcnc
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[02:43:04] <tjtr33> one of the fun things in making a vismach is how well you (I) can mung up the rt system, halrun -U is of no use bye bye :0
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[02:43:29] <andypugh> halrun -U is never any use.
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[04:09:22] <tjtr33> andypugh: haha ( just got back from a long series of hal freezes, and caught your remark from the logs ) i had removed 'work' <-- bad bad thang
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[04:10:50] <tjtr33> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWf7cT8CTDI
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[05:29:39] <KimK> GammaX: I scrolled back, I'm not sure you got an answer on your pneumatics question. Did anyone reply? Or did you get it figured out?
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[06:37:10] <RyanS> I've seen a few DIY power drawbars all seem to use pneumatic cylinders. Not possible to use electric cylinder?
[06:47:39] <archivist> the forces are very high, much easier with pneumatics
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[07:06:38] <RyanS> There are some pretty strong electric cylinders these days.. Probably not as compact however
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[07:18:46] <RyanS> jeez those small bandsaws are slow
[07:30:43] <Jymmm> Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn she's good...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxgQi4B89KY
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[13:46:36] <jthornton> http://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/ladder/index.html
[13:46:42] <jthornton> some new stuff
[13:48:24] <mhaberler> jthornton: how do we get a Forum group 'LinuxCNC on the BeagleBone' created?
[13:48:57] <mhaberler> things are getting a bit littered here and there, mailing list, chats, wiki
[13:54:08] <JT-Shop> mhaberler: I can do that for you
[13:54:15] <JT-Shop> what section should it be in?
[13:54:36] <mhaberler> thanks! let me have a look first
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[13:56:11] <mhaberler> I'd think that be Home> Forum >Hardware> Computer > LinuxCNC on the BeagleBone (do we "rebrand" the forum ;-?)
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[14:16:22] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, is ladder logic case sensitive?
[14:17:50] <jthornton> do you mean the %I1 stuff? yes
[14:18:14] <Tom_itx> i don't know what i mean. i just started looking at your tut
[14:18:40] <Tom_itx> previous experience tells me to ask
[14:19:01] <jthornton> %i1 will not work only %I1
[14:19:17] <Tom_itx> all upper case then?
[14:19:39] <jthornton> yes
[14:19:47] <jthornton> for ClassicLadder at least
[14:20:26] <Tom_itx> it would be a long time before i'm ready for ContemporaryLadder
[14:20:35] <jthornton> lol
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[14:21:36] <jthornton> is the tutorial clear as mud?
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[14:21:51] <Tom_itx> nothing is clear yet. just woke up
[14:22:01] <Tom_itx> overslept
[14:22:24] <DJ9DJ> re
[14:23:41] <Tom_itx> so [] designates input and () designates output
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[14:24:28] <jthornton> yes
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[14:25:32] <Tom_itx> how do you connect them to signals?
[14:25:53] <jthornton> in HAL
[14:26:24] <Tom_itx> using %I1 as the designator?
[14:26:51] <Tom_itx> button.is-on => %I1
[14:27:01] <steve_stallings> JT - if the BeagleBone area gets created on the forum, will it be possible to subscribe to just that area? For me the forum runs painfully slow and I would hope to mostly read it by email.
[14:28:45] <jthornton> steve_stallings, if I make you a moderator you will get an email from every post in the BeagleBone, that is the only way I know how to do this
[14:30:33] <steve_stallings> JT - there is a button on the forum that says "subscribe to this category", but I am uncertain granular a "category" is
[14:30:52] <steve_stallings> JT - .... how granular....
[14:30:57] <jthornton> Tom_itx, this is a line from hal net prox-1 classicladder.0.in-01 <= pyvcp.prox-1
[14:31:32] <jthornton> internet is painfully slow for me due to the rain
[14:31:42] <Tom_itx> i'll wait for part 4 :)
[14:32:13] <jthornton> steve_stallings, give it a try and see
[14:34:41] <jthornton> what should be in part 4?
[14:37:24] <jthornton> mhaberler, does that work for you?
[14:37:25] <steve_stallings> JT - thanks for creating the category BeagleBone on the forum, I have subscribed and posted the first message
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[14:38:10] <jthornton> no problem, glad I could help
[14:38:14] <steve_stallings> ... or at least tried to post the first message.... still waiting for the forum to respond
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[14:40:24] <mhaberler> sometimes I ask myselves how many folks we're driving away rather than attracting with these response times
[14:42:51] <jthornton> Yea, I see your post
[14:43:00] <mhaberler> jthornton: thanks a lot! finally saw it
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[14:48:38] <carper64_lb> hello gents
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[14:58:24] <Tom_itx> jthornton, good question. i don't know anything about ClassicLadder
[14:58:46] <Tom_itx> connecting the logic to real IO?
[14:59:44] <Tom_itx> how you let linuxcnc you have a logic file...
[15:00:01] <Tom_itx> know^
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[15:42:09] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: you just connect in HAL the inputs and outputs to classicladder just like the pyvcp example line
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[15:52:01] <PetefromTn> morning everyone
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[16:00:50] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, i may try it just to try it one of these days
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[16:15:47] <JT-Shop> what?
[16:16:27] <Tom_itx> classicladder
[16:16:40] <Tom_itx> just for the 'experience'
[16:16:57] <JT-Shop> yea and for fun, start slow
[16:17:01] <Tom_itx> not sure what example i would use it on
[16:18:42] <JT-Shop> make up one that needs a timer or a counter so it is fun
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[16:19:23] <Tom_itx> i played with fpga just for the heck of it but i don't think i'd ever get into programming them as a habbit
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[17:07:12] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[17:09:21] <DJ9DJ> hi there
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[17:12:44] <Tom_itx> oh, andypugh one problem i have now is all the macros that i installed aren't visible under 8.04
[17:12:57] <Tom_itx> i copied my configs over from the other pc
[17:13:11] <Tom_itx> it's just a path issue but i gotta find where they're stored
[17:13:28] <andypugh> Which macros?
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[17:13:37] <andypugh> (And why me?)
[17:13:46] <Tom_itx> the ones that are packaged with 2.5.2
[17:14:06] <Tom_itx> probably because you responded to my 8.04 update question the other day
[17:14:42] <Tom_itx> i'll find it, i just haven't looked yet
[17:15:15] <andypugh> I think that the difference might be the SUBROUTINE_PATH INI entry that got added.
[17:15:30] <Tom_itx> or maybe the macros themselves aren't there yet
[17:16:10] <Tom_itx> do you remember the link for installing them? i had it at one time..
[17:16:56] <Tom_itx> my interweb is sure slow today
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[17:24:36] <Tom_itx> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/ngcgui.html
[17:24:41] <Tom_itx> that must be it
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[17:59:46] <IchGuckLive> im off By have a nice weekend where ever you are in the world
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[20:24:05] <JT-Shop> happy Saturday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skFWsc_-i14
[20:24:25] <Tecan> (skFWsc_-i14) "You can't rollerskate in a buffaloherd - roger miller" by "usetheroute93" is "Music" - Length: 0:01:58
[20:25:55] <pdurbin> huh. I've never seen a bot do that
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