#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-04-08

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[01:27:41] <L84Supper> WalterN: if it's from the "The Value Goose" its gotta be good!
[01:28:17] <WalterN> L84Supper: so I should quit trying to talk myself out of it and get that laser?
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[01:30:43] <L84Supper> I have no desire to control you or tell you what to do :)
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[01:30:57] <WalterN> haha
[01:31:10] <PetefromTn> Sweetness!!
[01:31:18] * Valen knows some people who wouldn't mind bossing you around
[01:31:18] <PetefromTn> Helo all...
[01:31:23] <Valen> you like whips right?
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[01:31:42] <L84Supper> howdy PetefromTn
[01:31:53] <PetefromTn> How do...
[01:32:05] <L84Supper> Valen: most people under 30?
[01:32:15] <Valen> lol
[01:32:19] * Valen left that club
[01:32:23] <Valen> last week :-<
[01:32:27] <WalterN> ouch
[01:32:34] <L84Supper> welcome old man
[01:32:57] <PetefromTn> So we all talking LinuxCNC or what?
[01:33:04] <L84Supper> yes
[01:33:13] <Valen> why would we talk about that here?
[01:33:19] <WalterN> crazy
[01:33:24] <PetefromTn> Wonderin if my pal Billy is in here...?
[01:33:27] <WalterN> I just wanted to talk about lasers
[01:33:28] <Valen> seesh, kids these days
[01:33:30] <Valen> ;-P
[01:33:48] <PetefromTn> LOL this is cool. Have not been on a chat like this for years...
[01:33:55] <L84Supper> Valen: somebody from the other side of that island you live on was here a few hours ago
[01:34:09] <Valen> wow that must have been early (or late)
[01:34:18] <L84Supper> he was up late
[01:34:27] <L84Supper> Perth
[01:34:34] <PetefromTn> Who is the resident Ladder logic GURU?
[01:34:42] <Valen> as of yesterday thats 4 hours behind
[01:34:58] <L84Supper> wow, clock went back?
[01:35:06] <Connor> PetefromTn: Yup. I'm here.
[01:35:32] <PetefromTn> Hey man HOWYA doing? I just texted ya.... Finally found my way here LOL..
[01:35:42] <gry> PetefromTn: there is a bill1123 but I'm not totally sure it's who you're looking for
[01:36:06] <PetefromTn> Nope its my boy Connor, I think I blew his cover tho LOL...
[01:36:29] <PetefromTn> How do you respond to a specific person like that?
[01:36:31] <Connor> PetefromTn: Yea.. Just got your text and email.. I was away from computer eating Dinner.. left my phone in the office.. Just set back down to finish up some stuff for a client.
[01:36:43] <WalterN> this is getting too scary for me... I'm just going to buy this 30watt laser here
[01:36:44] <Valen> yeah daylight savings ended
[01:36:54] <PetefromTn> No worries man, you have been a great help to me this weekend already. P
[01:37:26] <Connor> PetefromTn: Just start typing their name and hit tab to complete it.. The client will "beep" at them letting them know someone said something with their handle in it..
[01:37:37] <PetefromTn> Connor: Cool...
[01:38:04] <PetefromTn> you'll have me all geeked out before ya know it man...
[01:38:09] <WalterN> I dont think most beep.. most can be set up to beep though
[01:38:23] <PetefromTn> How do you set it, that would be neat...
[01:38:26] <L84Supper> WalterN: http://www.3ders.org/articles/20120202-low-cost-and-open-source-sls-wax-3d-printer.html
[01:38:52] <Valen> btw you can make wax powder *really* easily ;->
[01:38:55] <WalterN> L84Supper: yeah, I saw that last night...
[01:38:56] <Valen> if extremly messy
[01:39:21] <WalterN> Valen: heated pressure washer?
[01:39:34] <Connor> mIRC and Pidgin both beep... not sure about other clients..
[01:39:47] <Valen> nah, carby
[01:40:03] <Valen> pot of hot wax, tube leading out of it, then blow compressed air over the top
[01:40:11] <PetefromTn> Connor: I downloaded Quassel first one I found that looked okay..
[01:40:14] <Valen> superfine wax powder
[01:40:22] <L84Supper> http://3dprintingindustry.com/2013/02/22/the-first-3d-printed-polymer-implant-to-receive-fda-approval/
[01:40:30] <Valen> will handily fill the workshop in about half a second
[01:40:30] <L84Supper> uses PEEK powder
[01:40:51] <Connor> PetefromTn: Never used that one. I use Pidgin since I'm on Ubunutu. mIRC was what I used when on Windows.. but.. what ever works is good. :)
[01:41:15] <WalterN> HexChat (a fork of Xchat) is my favorite
[01:41:28] <Valen> I use pidgin
[01:41:48] <Valen> though with MSN going away and no real way to integrate with skype :-<
[01:42:00] <Connor> I use Pidgin for AIM and other MSN chat too.
[01:42:16] <Connor> and it supports google+
[01:42:17] <Valen> somebody should make a MSN "server"
[01:42:22] <PetefromTn> Connor: just found it apparently can use sounds notifications but you need the sound byte to use it. Apparently none in there LOL...
[01:42:50] <Connor> Just copy and ol .wav file into it..
[01:43:22] <gry> PetefromTn: settings has a notification panel in Quassel, it can beep too
[01:43:24] <Connor> PetefromTn: On the ladder stuff.. that about the tool changer? because, remap might work good for it too...
[01:43:43] <gry> PetefromTn, (ask in client channel and they'll help to tune it somewhat)
[01:43:46] <PetefromTn> Connor: Gonna work on this Cincinatti arrow some more tomorrow trying to get the Y axis motor installed. Gonna try to use that Halscope for tuning again...
[01:44:18] <PetefromTn> What is client channel?
[01:44:35] <PetefromTn> Don't have any .wav files...
[01:45:00] <Connor> PetefromTn: probably the IRC channel for the program...
[01:45:33] <Connor> Looks like a #quassel channel exists on this server...
[01:46:44] jdh is now known as jdhFromTN
[01:47:02] <jdhFromTN> hmm
[01:47:08] <Connor> jdhFromTN: Smart A$$. :)
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[01:47:39] <Connor> I thought it was jdhNC ? :)
[01:47:44] <jdh> is it?
[01:47:47] <PetefromTn> LOL...okay just downloaded a .wav beep. installing...
[01:47:50] <Connor> not know.. but it was..
[01:47:56] <Connor> a long time ago.
[01:48:05] <jdh> jdh was registered so I couldn't use it.
[01:48:09] <jdh> probably by me.
[01:48:16] <jdh> -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or
[01:48:21] <PetefromTn> jdh: you stealin' my thunder...!!
[01:48:32] <jdh> I seem to have forgotten my password again though
[01:48:39] <Connor> yea. I've had Connor on this server since around 98 maybe ?
[01:49:15] <jdh> heh, I actually avoided this network while lilo was around
[01:49:47] <PetefromTn> Connor: whaddya mean remap?
[01:50:38] <PetefromTn> whatsit mean when the username has a little clock on it? Days numbered or something? LOL
[01:50:39] <Connor> Remap is a module for hal that lets you remap G commands to run programs If I remember correctly. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/remap/structure.html
[01:51:00] <Connor> Could be people who are idle ?
[01:51:14] <PetefromTn> How ya go idle?
[01:51:17] <jdh> Pete: I lived in .tn.us for 30ish years
[01:51:20] <Connor> don't type for a while. :)
[01:51:40] <PetefromTn> jdh: Oh Im so sorry LOL...
[01:51:55] <jdh> Pete: I got better about 16 years ago.
[01:52:21] <jdh> evidently I have to go bck in may for a wedding though.
[01:52:23] <Connor> So, the question is, if remap is stable enough now for tool changers.. I think it is. and will be seamless when added into your setup.
[01:52:24] <PetefromTn> Ooh thats good.... I'm trying to prep my house so I can move back to FLorida and sit on the beach.
[01:52:50] <PetefromTn> jdh: cool man look me up...
[01:53:09] <PetefromTn> Honestly I think ladder is the way to go here....
[01:53:17] <Connor> PetefromTn: jdh is a fellow G0704 owner (same mill as mine) He got it around the same time I did..
[01:53:27] <PetefromTn> Whose the resident Ladder logic guru
[01:53:39] <jdh> jt
[01:53:44] <PetefromTn> Well apparently no beep...dunno what I did wrong.
[01:53:56] <Connor> Dunno. jt and skunkworks probably.
[01:54:01] <jdh> I do AB and GE/Fanuc at work though
[01:54:56] <Connor> I know remap can handle everything though.. it basically maps out the G-command to a external program and we can do everything we need in it.
[01:54:58] <PetefromTn> What's AB?
[01:55:13] <Connor> I know little about ladder
[01:55:21] <jdh> allen-bradley
[01:55:44] <PetefromTn> Ladder logic can handle all the If/then stuff which is paramount for safety here I think but I don't know JS about it.
[01:55:57] <PetefromTn> Oh Allen Bradley.
[01:56:10] <Connor> Yea. remap can too.. and allot more.. such as storing variables and counting etc etc.
[01:56:11] <PetefromTn> That's the spensive stuff...
[01:57:25] <Connor> it could also keep track of stuff like how many times a tool was used.. by storing it in a external file every time that tool was used.
[01:58:21] <PetefromTn> Oh really? That is something I would think could come in real handy. Lee uses something OTHER than Ladder logic and not sure exactly what just yet.
[01:58:37] <Connor> Would be Remap. I think that's the only other way.
[01:58:50] <PetefromTn> I will logon to this when I am working on the machine that way when I have questions I can ask away.
[01:59:00] <Connor> Lets you mix Gcode with python programming to do everything you need.
[01:59:45] <PetefromTn> Dunno really he said he has something that uses G code in a seperate program somehow. Wish he was on here. Dunno maybe he is apparently there are 120 other CNC junkies in attendance right now...
[02:00:14] <Connor> Do you know his Handle on IRC ?
[02:00:18] <PetefromTn> I see Chris Radek is in here... He's got some heavy iron retrofitted...
[02:00:37] <PetefromTn> Nope just his Email dunno if he is even on IRC...
[02:01:39] <jdh> you can use m100-m199, but you would have to insert that yourself vs. just M6?
[02:01:49] <PetefromTn> His Email is Lomach and I don't see anything like that in the list right now...
[02:02:32] <PetefromTn> Really want this monster to run exactly like it did when new so that precludes anything but M6 codes...
[02:03:08] <PetefromTn> Are we the only people talking in here right now? All those other 120 folks are awful quiet unless I am missing how to hear them...
[02:03:16] <jdh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSXR3FsN0EE
[02:03:18] <Tecan> (bSXR3FsN0EE) "Linuxcnc retrofit of a Cincinnati Arrow 500" by "Lee Osborne" is "Tech" - Length: 0:00:46
[02:03:49] <PetefromTn> Tecan: Yup that's him... Sweet looking machine all stealthy like that No?
[02:04:04] <Tecan> hmmm
[02:04:15] <PetefromTn> That is the EXACT same machine I have... Are you Lee?
[02:04:23] <Tecan> Leecan ?
[02:04:49] <PetefromTn> Tecan: Is that his IRC name?
[02:05:21] <PetefromTn> Sure would be nice if he was on here as calling him on the phone in England last time cost me a pretty penny LOL...
[02:05:33] <Connor> PetefromTn: Skype
[02:06:16] <PetefromTn> Connor: yeah we actually talked about doing that.. If I need to I will...
[02:06:19] <Connor> PetefromTn: Honestly, let me just write it up with remap. Because I'll end up using 80% of it for my tool changer when I get it built.
[02:06:32] <Connor> It'll use the M6 tool change command.
[02:06:41] <PetefromTn> Why don't you want to use the ladder logic?
[02:07:02] <PetefromTn> oh and what is 3voiced?
[02:07:34] <Connor> I don't know ladder and you can do allot with more with remap.
[02:08:09] <PetefromTn> I favorited the link about remap. Gonna read it some tomorrow...
[02:08:40] <Connor> Okay.. it's mix between G-Code and Python. which lets you do ANYTHING just about.
[02:08:46] <Connor> Ladder is a bit more old-school
[02:08:56] <L84Supper> anyone ever see a flexible encoder strip that could be applied to a conveyor belt, need ± 50 µm (0.002")
[02:09:02] <PetefromTn> Yeah I LIKE old school....usually means it works good.
[02:10:36] <Connor> Hmm.. I can't load the Ladder Editor on my Simulator
[02:10:47] <Connor> and andy is already logged off..
[02:11:36] <PetefromTn> Andy who?
[02:12:14] <Connor> Andy Pugh
[02:12:18] <Valen> L84Supper: perhaps a magentic one?
[02:12:38] <PetefromTn> Big John sent me a simulation setup with a ladder logic of a toolchanger of some sort to look at and said to run it in simulation mode to see how it all works. Said it is not rocket science...
[02:12:47] <PetefromTn> Oh okay...
[02:13:00] <PetefromTn> He's in England so it must be getting late over there I suppose.
[02:13:35] <PetefromTn> ooh Lookey we got Fox Mulder in here, from the X files. Cool
[02:14:00] <PetefromTn> Why does it seem like I'm doing all the talking LOL...
[02:14:20] <Connor> It comes in waves. :)
[02:14:33] <Connor> Late Sunday it's pretty dead most of time.
[02:14:57] <Connor> and most across the pond are asleep or no up yet.
[02:15:16] <PetefromTn> True...
[02:15:27] <PetefromTn> I see Pete from mesa...
[02:15:39] <Connor> Only reason I'm on is because I'm working late.. :(
[02:15:49] <PetefromTn> You call this working LOL
[02:16:10] <Connor> I'm working in the other window. :)
[02:17:55] <WalterN> L84Supper: well, I bought that laser... $322 shipped
[02:18:13] <PetefromTn> Gonna finish machining the little brass terminals for the power leads to the Y axis motor tomorrow morning so I can finally stick that monster in there. Got lots of cleaning of sludge off the sheetmetal covers then I can put that all back on.
[02:18:46] <Connor> Cool.
[02:18:50] <PetefromTn> I also need to try to figure out how to wire up that spindle drive. Gonna start working on that bad boy tomorrow too...
[02:19:25] <Connor> That'll be fun. I'll see if I can send you the missing files and stuff you need to make the new control panel work..
[02:19:34] <PetefromTn> WalterN: Cool man now you're just like buck Rodgers...
[02:19:50] <WalterN> who is that?
[02:20:00] <PetefromTn> Nevermind...
[02:20:06] <Connor> ROFL
[02:20:26] <PetefromTn> Connor: okay man you'll probably have to tell me how to install them too since Im such a noob...
[02:20:47] <Connor> Yea. not a problem.
[02:21:15] <PetefromTn> Gonna hafta get one of those fancy wireless USB jobs so I can chat while I am tinkering...
[02:21:37] <Connor> Yea. or a long Cat5 cable and just plug it in..
[02:22:43] <PetefromTn> Just reading here about O words and python...
[02:23:27] <PetefromTn> What is NGC?
[02:23:42] <Connor> g file. NGC is the typical extension
[02:23:50] <Connor> err. g code file.
[02:25:01] <PetefromTn> Really, mine is usually .txt...
[02:28:47] <Valen> wires work
[02:28:53] <Valen> wireless is dodgy ;->
[02:29:03] <PetefromTn> Yeah but not nearly as cool LOL...
[02:29:05] <Valen> check device support list before purchasing wirless too
[02:29:31] <PetefromTn> Valen: where ya at Valen?
[02:29:57] <Connor> Down Under it looks like..
[02:30:03] <Valen> sydney au
[02:30:51] <PetefromTn> Wow no kidding... Got a friend in New Zealand who ALSO has a Cincinatti Arrow 500... he texts me sometimes and asks about my retrofit LOL
[02:31:18] <PetefromTn> What time is it In Sydney now?
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[02:35:09] <PetefromTn> Connor: I am sure Lee would share his Toolchanger setup with me he has been very helpful so far. Dunno if it is in the Hal and INI files doubt it but since I really don't know how he is doing it that is not surprising. He does say that his machine has now performed thousands of toolchanges without issue tho so whatever he is doing is working .
[02:35:50] <Connor> PetefromTn: They'll be separate.. if he's willing to share that'll be a head start.
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[02:36:33] <PetefromTn> Yeah I am sure it would... I think he will Ill ask him via email tomorrow.
[02:36:48] <PetefromTn> Oh and got a beep there scared the crap outta me LOL....
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[02:37:02] <Connor> PetefromTn: ROFL
[02:37:24] <PetefromTn> Laugh it up fuzzball...
[02:38:11] <PetefromTn> What the hell kinda name is toastydeath?
[02:38:24] <Connor> I dunno, ask him. :)
[02:42:37] <PetefromTn> Connor: whaddya make of the metric labels on the inch settings issue we ran into on the build yesterday?
[02:43:21] <Connor> I need to send you 2 extra lines of code to paste into the button of the .axisrc file.
[02:46:06] <PetefromTn> Okay...
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[02:57:37] <PetefromTn> Was just looking at that fourth axis you sent me links to...dayum I missed out on that one....sigh.
[02:57:49] <Connor> :(
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[03:07:15] <Connor> PetefromTn: I'll keep my eyes out for another one.
[03:08:06] <PetefromTn> Cool man thanks... I may also just build one out of a rotab. Whatever I can get my hands on the least inexpensively the better.
[03:08:33] <PetefromTn> Dayum this forum is dead tonight. Really thought there would be a lot more questions and chatting.
[03:09:01] <Connor> That's why I idle in it all day while working.
[03:09:11] <jdh> it's late, sunday night. Hlaf the earth is off
[03:09:34] <Valen> its 1:00PM on a monday afternoon what are you talking about
[03:09:59] <jdh> the other half
[03:14:16] <PetefromTn> LOL....
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[03:24:14] <PetefromTn> Well dudes, I'm ready to hit the sack here. Ill try to logon tomorrow while I tinker with the machine. Hopefully things will go well and I will make some more good progress. Cannot wait to see this monster make some parts...peace
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[03:40:31] <r00t4rd3d> jdh, u in texas?
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[07:18:52] <r00t4rd3d> good middle of the morning
[07:19:31] <r00t4rd3d> 3:20am and the coffee buzz is still rocking
[07:19:37] <r00t4rd3d> i just got some cutting :)
[07:19:45] <r00t4rd3d> some/done
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[07:26:20] <r00t4rd3d> drill press lathe chuck: http://imgur.com/a/dbDkZ
[07:26:28] <WalterN> r00t4rd3d: did you see that I ended up buying a laser?
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[07:32:18] <r00t4rd3d> no
[07:32:42] <r00t4rd3d> I mostly pay attention to myself
[07:34:05] <r00t4rd3d> that was meant as a joke, not a dick
[07:35:09] <r00t4rd3d> i could be in a irc channel by myself and have a great time
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[07:35:33] <WalterN> lol yeah
[07:35:43] <WalterN> I know what you mean... lurking is the best
[07:36:23] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[07:36:43] <WalterN> r00t4rd3d: got a 30watt diode laser... http://tiwake.com/Caputre.JPG
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[07:41:56] <WalterN> I need a power supply for it though
[07:42:12] <WalterN> 2 volt 50amp
[07:42:57] <WalterN> donno what to do about that
[07:46:43] <r00t4rd3d> The requested URL /Caputre.JPG was not found on this server.
[07:46:53] <r00t4rd3d> nvm
[07:47:12] <WalterN> derp
[07:47:16] <WalterN> Capture
[07:47:30] <WalterN> r00t4rd3d: lol... sorry
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[12:05:57] <PetefromTn> Mornin fellas...
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[12:21:22] <jthornton> morning
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[12:31:55] <PetefromTn> jthornton: morning Jt
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[12:32:46] <jthornton> making any chips yet?
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[12:38:01] <PetefromTn> LOL yeah I wish... Still gotta work on modifying the Y axis motor cable so it fits inside the column. Damn huge Mil-spec connectors LOL
[12:38:45] <PetefromTn> They look like a freakin' horn sticking out the side of the motor. Thankfully it is only the Y that has the issue.
[12:39:11] <jthornton> yea they can be big, do you have a photo of it?
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[12:41:41] <PetefromTn> jthornton: think so but how do I post it..did'nt think you could post pics here LOL
[12:42:16] <jthornton> yes, just use imagebin.ca or similar
[12:42:48] <jthornton> opps imagebin.org
[12:44:22] <archivist> or ones own blog/site so you can always point at stuph
[12:45:44] <PetefromTn> Oh okay... There is a picture of it in my thread here on LinuxCNC forum....http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/30-cnc-machines/25790-petes-cincinatti-arrow-500-retrofit?start=10
[12:46:34] <PetefromTn> Does not show the connector apparently I thought I had a picture of that but it is like three to four inches longer than that mount which ALREADY sticks out quite a bit from the motor body. Suckage,
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[13:51:52] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.csparks.com/watchmaking/SwissLathe.jpg
[13:52:33] <Valen> tiss pretty
[13:53:09] <PetefromTn> Sweet.....you make that?
[13:54:44] <r00t4rd3d> no
[13:54:50] <r00t4rd3d> want it
[13:57:23] <archivist> ew set up for a left handed user
[13:57:46] * archivist hides his smaller lathes
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[13:59:15] <archivist> hand turning with a graver is pretty easy
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[14:09:15] <PetefromTn> so that is a wood lathe no? whaddya mean want it? ya giving it away?
[14:11:43] <archivist> not a wood lathe, it is for turning small watch parts
[14:12:52] <archivist> balance staffs etc
[14:16:37] <archivist> http://www.csparks.com/watchmaking/Lathes.html
[14:17:35] <PetefromTn> SWEET!!
[14:18:07] <archivist> and now we see where he stole that image from!
[14:20:17] <chopper79> Hello, I am needing some help with Gantrykins if anyone is familiar with how it functions and how to change some function with it.
[14:21:06] <archivist> ask the real question
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[14:23:44] <chopper79> I need to find a way to keep joint mode hidden. The only thing I or anyone should see for that matter is world mode? This would be the first with Gantrykins. Is there a way to do this?
[14:28:27] <cradek> I've heard that gentrivkins in joints_axes3 branch will do this, but I haven't tried it and I don't know anything about it
[14:28:32] * JT-Shop wonders if anyone has been happy using gantrykins
[14:29:16] <cradek> I think gantrykins is simply a mistake
[14:30:05] <PetefromTn> that does not sound too promising...
[14:32:28] <R2E4_awy> I tried Gantrykins back when I built my cnc router and I never got it to work right, so I switched to mach3
[14:32:49] <chopper79> hmm... Well I dont really want to use gantrykins as I would rather use trivkins. Trivkins will not allow me to autosquare using a 5I25 board. I can do it with parallel port, just not MESA board.
[14:33:54] <chopper79> From the research I have done.... Nobody likes Gantrykins due to al the bugs. Great idea for sure, just not usable. I was thinking of making some changes to tit and see if I can get something else figured out to make it work like I need
[14:34:01] <cradek> ok, now I know/remember the full question. with software stepgen, you did it by gating step pulses, right?
[14:34:14] <chopper79> yes
[14:34:19] <gene77> Hi Guys, got a show stopper here, 2.6.0-pre, uptodate on all machines
[14:34:30] <chopper79> Still fighting the squaring issue
[14:34:30] <cradek> why not do that same thing in hardware?
[14:35:04] <gene77> 275 lines of code that runs fine in sim mode, won't load on real mode, ideas?
[14:35:07] <cradek> I'm hoping after fest we'll have a better setup, but until then you'll have to be creative
[14:36:16] <gene77> error is in a g2 line, whats dif between sim and real?
[14:36:18] <chopper79> I though abotu hardware, but PCW thinks it would be better doing this in the motion section instead of gates or harware if Im not mistaken.
[14:36:35] <cradek> gene77: so what's the error?
[14:37:08] <cradek> chopper79: sure, he's right, but that doesn't currently exist
[14:37:11] <gene77> radius to end of arc differs, a lot
[14:37:51] <cradek> gene77: pastebin the gcode.
[14:38:15] <gene77> I even copied the machine status from the house machine to the top of the file thinking something there was amiss, no deal
[14:38:28] <gene77> ok, brb
[14:39:40] <cradek> chopper79: like I've talked about before on the channel, I think the right way to do it would be to have master/slave joints in the motion controller
[14:39:48] <cradek> it is nontrivial to do that, to say the least
[14:40:30] <chopper79> exactly, so I am still at the point of figuring out a way to do it in software. Maybe if I can get a home trigger to disable to stepgen until both home swithces are contacted then enable stepgen for only the tandem joints. This is the only thing I can think of since there is no sight of the stepgen using the 5i25. If I had sight over them then I can use gates to do this I guess
[14:41:12] <R2E4_awy> +cradek: I got my machine powered up finally, the BP R2E4
[14:41:16] <cradek> if your stepgens are in position mode, enabling and disabling them probably isn't going to work, because they will want to "catch up"
[14:41:24] <cradek> R2E4_awy: cool
[14:41:26] <chopper79> true
[14:41:44] <R2E4_awy> everything works on it. no errors at all.
[14:41:54] <cradek> it's a christmas miracle
[14:42:08] <R2E4_awy> yeah, except its not christmas.
[14:42:14] <cradek> so are you going to retrofit it?
[14:42:27] <R2E4_awy> I may just leave it like that and drip feed, and use my mesa cards for my next project.
[14:42:46] <cradek> the easiest machine to retrofit is a working one --- but the machine least needing a retrofit is the working one
[14:43:02] <cradek> I am not sure you can drip feed it...? I never got that to work on mine.
[14:43:31] <R2E4_awy> If I cannot drip feed it, I will retrofit it. I will be working on that the next few days.
[14:43:36] <cradek> the memory is limited but unless you're doing crazy contouring it's enough for a lot
[14:43:56] <cradek> do you have a tape reader on it, or just the serial port?
[14:44:13] <R2E4_awy> Getting the 460 3 phase working with 220 single phase was really easy. I was dreading it but it work like a charm.
[14:44:22] <R2E4_awy> 12k onboard
[14:44:34] <R2E4_awy> no tape reader, just serial port
[14:44:45] <cradek> yeah "100 feet of ram" haha
[14:44:46] <gene77> something busted in FF or pastebin.org, claims I am sending an empty paste, so what site works?
[14:45:06] <R2E4_awy> haha....
[14:45:49] <cradek> gene77: there's also a pastebin.ca
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[14:46:57] <cradek> R2E4_awy: http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/mill
[14:47:16] <cradek> R2E4_awy: I hooked the serial console port to my pc, and used this little program to push gcode to it
[14:47:39] <cradek> it puts the console in input mode, just like you're typing the gcode into the mill's editor, and then "types" it in
[14:48:59] <R2E4_awy> I will try that.
[14:49:00] <R2E4_awy> thanks
[14:49:24] <PetefromTn> that sounds pretty cool... kind of an MDI drip feed LOL
[14:49:37] <gene77> cradek http://pastebin.ca/2352883 one day expirey
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[14:53:56] <pcw_home> chopper79: it is possible to gate the output pulses with software but its about as elegant as a pig on stilts
[14:54:23] <JT-Shop> LOL at the image of a pig on stilts
[14:54:41] <chopper79> wouls be funny to see a pig on stilts
[14:55:22] <chopper79> Then how do we go about making this happen PCW? Hardware, software?
[14:55:41] <pcw_home> In HAL
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[14:58:44] <PetefromTn> Hal makes me chuckle everytime I hear it....shades of 2001 LOL
[14:59:10] <chopper79> What if we joined the outputs to drive both joint 2 and 4 so they function from 1 stepgen. Then we used .hal to route the home switches so it would....... nevermind
[14:59:14] <chopper79> failed thought
[15:00:04] <pcw_home> Basically you use the raw write routine to set the AltSource register for the I/O pins so the step pin you want to gate
[15:00:05] <pcw_home> gets driven from a output bit instead of the stepgen
[15:02:24] <chopper79> Not sure if basic should be involved with basially. I would be lost on this.
[15:03:05] <pcw_home> The other option I think I mentioned was to home to the AND of the home switches and capture the offset in HAL for application after homing is completed
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[15:03:43] <cradek> pcw_home: your stilt-pig needs lipstick...
[15:05:35] <pcw_home> All these schemes are a little Rube-Goldberg...
[15:08:37] <PetefromTn> Yeah Rube Goldberg on stilts...
[15:08:46] <JT-Shop> lol
[15:10:11] <chopper79> I agree
[15:10:43] <chopper79> So still doing this in motion section is the best way as you mentioned before?
[15:12:10] <pcw_home> another just slightly less silly way is to set the stepgen in table mode (so at least you dont need to worry about messing up other altsrc bits)
[15:13:26] <pcw_home> Yes better would be for motion to know how to home linked axis
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[15:18:55] <pcw_home> so disabling a stepgen output is like:
[15:18:57] <pcw_home> setp write_address 0x2200 ; stepgen 0
[15:18:59] <pcw_home> setp write_data 0x00000003 ; stepgen mode reg set to table mode
[15:19:00] <pcw_home> setp write_strobe true ; doit
[15:20:29] <chopper79> So this way the stilted pig is where a dress and lipstick
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[15:22:23] <PetefromTn> You guys crack me up....
[15:22:51] <pcw_home> It will get worse...
[15:23:34] <PetefromTn> promise?
[15:24:20] <gene77> yup
[15:25:23] <cradek> ... G91.1 G97 G99 ( cancel mill dia comp, set absolute for I-J-K vars)
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[15:25:31] <cradek> I notice that your code and comments don't match
[15:25:56] <cradek> so what line is the error on?
[15:26:08] <gene77> 159
[15:26:13] <cradek> ugh, gcode like this is write-only
[15:26:41] <gene77> tell me about it, I owe you for wading around in that mess.
[15:27:26] <gene77> There are probably vars that never got used too. Or use & never again referenced
[15:27:59] <chopper79> Well I will see what I can do abotu getting that pig to wear a dress and lipstick. I will report later on what I find or figure out.
[15:28:14] <cradek> sorry, I'm not able to decipher this. since you're using g41 I suspect your tool tables are different or something like that.
[15:28:48] <chopper79> Real quick could there not me just a comp that is written to handle this?
[15:28:55] <chopper79> be just
[15:28:57] <gene77> tool 1 is a 1/8" end mill. set at ,125 diameter
[15:30:11] <gene77> I would have used a smaller one, but needed the stiffness since its digging .350" deep at the end.
[15:30:33] <JT-Shop> chopper79: search the forum I seem to remember something like that...
[15:31:04] <cradek> I think it would be possible to write a comp that slaves a joint. it would need intimate knowledge about motion internals (homing states) so I think that's probably not the right way to handle it. wrong layer.
[15:31:48] <JT-Shop> could it just lie about the postion like the thc comp does?
[15:31:52] <cradek> switch-only homing would be a subset of that work and might be a bit more easily done in a comp
[15:32:03] <cradek> yeah seems like
[15:33:00] <cradek> you'd give the comp both home switch signals, and it would also monitor the homing phase (available as a motion output) and it would handle the offsets and generate the virtual home switch signal back to motion as appropriate
[15:33:46] <cradek> but if you want to handle all the different kinds of homing you'll get deep underwater fast
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[15:34:10] <chopper79> true, that would get deep fast
[15:36:01] <gene77> cradek, going back to the house & clean up some of the write only vars, back in a couple hours. Thanks
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[16:09:06] <PetefromTn> Well I got the little tubes machined on my lathe here so I can solder the wires directly to the pins on my new Y axis motor since the Mil-spec barrel connector cannot fit inside the damn column. They came out okay so now I just need to figure out how to solder them in place without overheating the connector body.
[16:10:39] <Connor> PetefromTn: I use forceps as a heat sink.
[16:11:22] <PetefromTn> I'll try but getting them down into that small connector at that angle might be a BEOTCH!! Oh and Good morning sir...
[16:12:02] <JT-Shop> got a photo of it?
[16:12:05] <Connor> PetefromTn: It's Noon. :) But thanks. Good After noon. :)
[16:12:50] <PetefromTn> Is it...been out in the shop all morning don't keep a clock out there or I'll just stare at it LOL...
[16:13:00] <r00t4rd3d> Redneck: http://imgur.com/a/65LAR
[16:13:47] <r00t4rd3d> i need some lathe tools
[16:13:59] <r00t4rd3d> file and sand paper dont really cut it
[16:15:58] <PetefromTn> what is that?
[16:16:16] <r00t4rd3d> drill press lathe chuck
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[16:17:15] <PetefromTn> aah...
[16:17:36] <r00t4rd3d> ill sell you one for $19.95
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[16:18:13] <PetefromTn> LOL thanks I'm good...
[16:18:36] <r00t4rd3d> but then you could make your own custom crack pipe
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[16:19:22] <PetefromTn> Hell if I want a crack pipe I'll just wait till my Cincinatti Arrow 500 retrofit is complete and build the MOTHER of all crack pipes and smoke it...maybe.
[16:19:42] <r00t4rd3d> lol
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[16:20:36] <PetefromTn> ;)
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[16:38:07] <PetefromTn> shoulda made my login name......CNCjedi!!!
[16:39:48] <Connor> No Comment. :)
[16:39:55] <jdh> I think that is taken by the CNC fusion guy
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[16:41:29] <PetefromTn> LOLreally what he doesn't know won't hurt him right...
[16:42:07] <PetefromTn> Connor: @no comment....HEY MAN!! I heard that...
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[16:44:32] <Connor> PetefromTn: :)
[16:45:47] <PetefromTn> I thought you wuz my friend....sigh
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[16:53:03] <PetefromTn> Okay what about CNCskywalker....?
[16:54:35] <jdh> where in TN?
[16:55:18] <PetefromTn> Maryville....Unfortunately.. Wish it was Palm Beach or somethin'
[16:56:14] <jdh> you mean Murville?
[16:57:06] <PetefromTn> yes exactly....you too? I'm sorry ifso.
[16:58:05] <jdh> Nope, used to do some work at Alcoa though.
[16:58:12] <Connor> I love TN and Knoxville.. everything but the Allergies.. Knoxville is ranked #2 in the nation this year..
[16:58:37] <jdh> I like the ocean
[16:59:05] <PetefromTn> Connor: Keep telling yourself that man LOL
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[16:59:39] <Connor> ranked #2 in Allergies...
[16:59:45] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[17:00:07] <jdh> I'm hoping I stayed home from work today due to allergies, feels more flu-like though
[17:01:13] <PetefromTn> Well that sucks... I'm trying to solder these damn leads and it is NOT COOPERATING!! Maybe time for a sammich.
[17:01:33] <Connor> http://allergycapitals.com/
[17:01:54] <jdh> or some flux?
[17:02:51] <ProxDem> rosin core soldering wire or some flux like jdh suggested
[17:04:19] <PetefromTn> yep got that... Thinking about ripping off this damn standoff and getting right to the leads inside the damn motor. then make some sorta blockoff plate or sumthin'
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[17:06:40] <Connor> Pull block off.. drill hole in back of it and get some of those rubber grommets from Lowes, in the hardware area in the drawers. (Home depot doesn't have them)
[17:07:46] <Connor> and do like your saying with a cover plate. that way, you have access to the wires to solder them.. Not as nice as a connector.. but.. hey, do whatcha gotta do.
[17:08:18] <Connor> gotta run and get some lunch. back in a while
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[17:08:42] <PetefromTn> Yeah I am gonna look at it. Right now using a propane torch with tiny tip to heat the pins while I insert wires. Starting to work somewhat. Trying to NOT get it too damn hot. Peace
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[17:09:20] <IchGuckLive> someone has Rhino running ?
[17:10:27] <FinboySlick> I haven't used rhino in ages.
[17:10:42] <FinboySlick> I remember it being pretty darn cool though.
[17:11:26] <IchGuckLive> i got a part to manufacture and i need to transfer it to step
[17:11:31] <chopper79> Debug question......... error when starting /linuxcnc/or2.ko : -1 File exists. What does this mean?
[17:12:51] <pcw_home> It usually means you have another instance of linuxCNC running
[17:13:00] <IchGuckLive> chopper79: your RT is broken restart system
[17:14:08] <chopper79> I figured it was something along those lines, but needed to make sure
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[17:17:29] <chopper79> ok.... After restarting linuxcnc, the same error occurs. restart computer, same error occurs. This only happens when adding or2. loadrt02 and a count number is in the .hal. addf's are all accounted for.
[17:17:34] <chopper79> any other suggestions
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[17:19:57] <PetefromTn> Okay I think I have got it done here. Gonna set it in some waterproof sealant like RTV or something and do a test of the motor.
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[17:22:11] <jdh> some RTV's attack solder joints when curing
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[17:42:56] <chopper79> Fixed it]
[17:44:09] <chopper79> had another loadrt or2 in another file.
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[17:49:55] <FinboySlick> L84Supper: If I figure out a way to use the DSP slices, I think we're in business.
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[17:58:08] <WalterN> L84Supper: so I got that laser last night, along with some (expensive) safety glasses... now I'm trying to figure out the power supply for it...
[17:58:46] <WalterN> this is something I have no idea what to do about... the diode laser needs ~2 volt at up to 50 amps
[17:59:49] <WalterN> minimum of 10 amps
[18:00:02] <pcw_home> needs to be a current source
[18:00:57] <WalterN> ..?
[18:01:21] <WalterN> where the current is controlled, and not the voltage?
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[18:03:15] <pcw_home> Because the voltage drop across the diode varies with temperature so if you supply a constant voltage the diode will be destroyed when it warms up
[18:03:19] <mr_new> hi guys
[18:04:03] <WalterN> pcw_home: yeah... but.. what to do about it?
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[18:04:25] <IchGuckLive> WalterN: 80W co2
[18:04:31] <pcw_home> the power supply must be a current regulated supply not voltage regulated
[18:04:46] <mr_new> am i right, that its possible to connect 3 dc servos to linuxcnc with just a 5i25 and 3H bridges?
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[18:05:00] <pcw_home> yes
[18:06:02] <mr_new> nothing more needed? or is it better to use a 5i20?
[18:08:17] <pcw_home> 5I25 is cheaper but has fewer I/O pins so better depends on whether it has enough pins...
[18:09:54] <WalterN> IchGuckLive: why mention CO2 when I have a diode laser on the way?
[18:11:28] * WalterN flails
[18:11:29] <IchGuckLive> ah i only reed the laser
[18:11:41] <mr_new> i think on the 5i25 are enough io pins for 3servos with 3encoders
[18:12:12] <IchGuckLive> WalterN: i got a full color 32k galvo system
[18:12:17] <IchGuckLive> only 150mW
[18:13:52] <IchGuckLive> yours may be 1,8-2V ca 40A 35W 808nm LWL
[18:14:08] <WalterN> 48amp... yeah
[18:14:24] <WalterN> IchGuckLive: http://tiwake.com/Capture.JPG
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[18:15:22] <IchGuckLive> you know that the CPU on the motherboard do 12V conversion 1.86V 45A
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[18:17:31] <IchGuckLive> WalterN: http://cdn.vicorpower.com/products/dc-dc/converters/mxmnmc/
[18:19:54] <IchGuckLive> WalterN: where are you in the world
[18:19:55] <WalterN> IchGuckLive: how much do those cost?
[18:19:59] <WalterN> USA
[18:20:27] <IchGuckLive> these dont support TTL
[18:20:37] <IchGuckLive> if you want to get on off
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[18:20:57] <mr_new> pcw_home do i need something else than 5i25?
[18:21:26] <IchGuckLive> WalterN: look for a DPPS (200-375) 50-24
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[18:21:42] <IchGuckLive> they got ttl and also TEC control
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[18:22:19] <IchGuckLive> there are also open DPPs
[18:22:56] <WalterN> what?
[18:23:43] <IchGuckLive> sorry i need to go wife is calling
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[18:27:04] <pcw_home> a 5I25 is sufficient if you have your own H-bridges (and encoder signal conditioning if they are differential)
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[18:32:24] <mr_new> h bridges need pwm, enable and dir
[18:33:06] <pcw_home> I dont think theres a standard config but its would be easy to make one (probably have to share an enable)
[18:34:05] <pcw_home> so 3 encoders is 9 pins + 2 PWM/DIR is 6 plus one shared enable is 17 total (one connector)
[18:34:24] <pcw_home> 3 pwm/ dir I mean
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[18:38:53] <chopper79> I need to connect some signals to some outputs. Example would be net ydir => hm2_5i25.0.gpio.008 The issue is when I do this and launch linuxcnc I recieve an error saying hm2_5i25.0.gpio.008 does not exsist. I know it exsists as I can invert the signals to it. What am I doing wrong or is it as simple as I cant do that?
[18:39:39] <pcw_home> Have you set it to an output?
[18:39:56] <chopper79> hm2_5i25.0.gpio.008.out
[18:40:04] <chopper79> is that how or is there another location to do that
[18:40:57] <pcw_home> that is the signal name (which will only be there if the pin is not used for another function and its set to be in output mode)
[18:42:57] <mr_new> pcw_home what is standard?
[18:43:34] <pcw_home> standard is for specific daughtercards
[18:45:23] <pcw_home> chopper79: "halcmd show pin" will list the available pins (assuming linuxcnc is running)
[18:45:55] <chopper79> That is where I go the hm2_5i25.0.gpio.008 from
[18:46:24] <pcw_home> there is no such signal hm2_5i25.0.gpio.008
[18:46:27] <chopper79> this is joint 1 direction io
[18:46:35] <chopper79> shows it right on my screen
[18:47:15] <chopper79> of course it lists the p3-11 also
[18:47:36] <pcw_home> that is the dmesg list not a pin list
[18:48:02] <pcw_home> halcmd show pin will list the available pins
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[18:48:23] <DJ9DJ> namd
[18:49:13] <pcw_home> Whether pins are available as outputs will depend on the modules enabled in the config line
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[18:53:49] <chopper79> they are listed as in and in-not
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[18:54:50] <mr_new> pcw_home i think there are no daughter cards i could use?
[18:55:18] <pcw_home> do you have your own Hbridges?
[18:58:18] <chopper79> Since the Y direction or joint 1 is gpio.008 and I am able to invert the direction of that using hm2_5i25.0.gpio.008.invert_output 1 would this not be an output going to (P3-05) : StepGen #1, pin Direction?
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[18:58:40] <WalterN> how about this... http://www.luminapower.com/ldpc
[18:58:59] <mr_new> pcw_home i would have to build them
[19:00:00] <pcw_home> chopper79: no if the hardware stepgen is enabled you do
[19:00:02] <pcw_home> not have access to the pin (just ability to read it and invert its polarity)
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[19:01:06] <chopper79> Can I disable to have access to the pin or is that a big NO you will screw everything up?
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[19:02:13] <pcw_home> not sure what you mean (if you disable the stepgens you have basically a parallel port again)
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[19:04:52] <chopper79> well, this is really starting to burn my rear. No access is killing me right now. I just need a way to get my signal to a pin. Really did not think it would be this hard to send take control of the pins on these cards.
[19:05:18] <chopper79> Is there a way in hal to have use and availability to the stepgen pins like a parallel port?
[19:05:28] <chopper79> but keep the benifits of the MESA cards?
[19:08:04] <mr_new> pcw_home i would use a daughter card if there is one which works for me
[19:10:29] <WalterN> http://www.luminapower.com/ldpc
[19:10:36] <WalterN> derp
[19:10:43] <WalterN> just sent an email to them
[19:10:48] <WalterN> for a quote
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[19:14:54] <mr_new> need 24v 8a
[19:15:14] <WalterN> it will take 12v too
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[19:20:34] <pcw_home> Chopper its possible to add a stepgen gate output, its just a really mickey mouse way to do things
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[19:24:20] <pcw_home> I think measuring the offset when you home and applying it after homing is a better solution
[19:24:22] <pcw_home> (well best would be for motion to be capable of homing linked axis)
[19:24:24] <pcw_home> JA3 should also work
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[19:29:13] <pcw_home> gating the output violates step pulse width and acceleration parameters
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[19:54:00] <sparr> I'm working on a cnc hot wire foam cutter. It has 4 axes (two heads, both with X and Y). I want to drive those axes independently and handle separate endstops for them, but have the option of sending 2D instead of 4D gcode in some cases.
[19:54:11] <sparr> Are there any good open source firmwares that can handle stuff like that?
[19:55:09] <cpresser> sparr: linuxcnc. just have two different configs for each mode
[19:56:12] <chopper79> PCW - I will give the JA3 a try and see what happens. As of now I am at a loss on getting this to work. I know that its not the hardware or anything like that, wish there was a way to handle gantry systems correctly in Linuxcnc. I can get everything to work 98% and then these darn gantry squaring issue and its back to the drawing board yet again.
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[20:02:21] <chopper79> any help on how to get and use the JA3 branch for Linuxncnc. All the google searches I have done come up with talking about it but thating that will aid in getting installed. Any help on this would be great.
[20:02:31] <sparr> cpresser: in the mode where they are driven separately, how do I say "stop moving both X axes when one of them reaches its limit switch"?
[20:03:13] <cpresser> in this config: wire them to an 'or'-element
[20:03:30] <cpresser> this can be done in hal very easily
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[21:25:56] <L84Supper> WalterN: when do you get to start to burning things with the new toy?
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[22:49:02] <WalterN> L84Supper: donno... I kinda need a power supply first
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[22:54:01] <chopper79> PCW - What does this do? setp hm2_5i25.0.stepgen.02.control-type 1
[22:54:42] <PCW> tells me that you should read the hoastmot2 manual page :-)
[22:55:30] <PCW> man hostmot2 (see stepgen section)
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[23:02:37] <chopper79> Yup reads the same thing it did last time I looked. Guess I will figure that one out later
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[23:06:36] <chopper79> Well PCW I am going to have to admit defeat on using the MESA boards for this setup and go back to parallel port. Thats really is too bad as I would use baout 600 of these 5i25 boards and about 200 of the THCAD a year to start with. I will play around with them again in my spare time, as of right now this is taking up more time then needs to be taken.
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[23:07:28] <chopper79> Thanks for your help on this and I will again attempt again later, just right now I can work my way around a parallel port
[23:07:53] <andypugh> What's the error message?
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[23:08:40] <andypugh> If it works with a parport it ought to work better with a 5i25.
[23:09:01] <chopper79> squaring seq. and gantrykins is no use.
[23:09:13] <cradek> he's gating step pulses to square a trivkins-gantry
[23:09:29] <cradek> you can't do it so easily if the step pulses aren't available at the hal level
[23:09:30] <andypugh> Ah.
[23:09:48] <chopper79> If I can not square the machine during home like I do now with a parallel port then my hands are tied
[23:10:22] <andypugh> Gating step pulses seems wrong anyway, what does it do to decel ramps?
[23:10:23] <chopper79> Until I can find more time for a work around or Linuxcnc handles gantrys with tandem motors better.
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[23:12:22] <PCW> JA3 should work, Michael Geszkiewicz has it on production gantry machines
[23:12:49] <cradek> yes sounds like joints_axes3 with gentrivkins works, although I haven't tried it
[23:12:52] <andypugh> JA3 + Gentrivkins did sound promising.
[23:13:12] <PCW> Yes other than hal name changes
[23:14:19] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy_cnc_router_table_machines/109390-my_newest_desktop_machine-146.html#post1257450
[23:14:22] <chopper79> I can not find anything to point me in the direction of JA3. Just talk on here and talk on the forums but nothing documnetion wise to aid in the use
[23:14:23] <r00t4rd3d> damn he is making mills now
[23:15:28] <cradek> chopper79: joints_axes3 is a branch in git. you can use any documentation that shows you how to check out and build a certain branch. you can probably find instructions for building from v2.5_branch, for instance, but you'd substitute joints_axes3 instead of v2.5_branch
[23:15:57] <chopper79> That is what I was trying to find out for the past 4 days
[23:16:18] <chopper79> could not get a clean answer from any searches
[23:16:20] <PCW> And Michael just merged in master so its up-to-date
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[23:16:43] <chopper79> Well I have master on the PC so I will launch it and give it a try
[23:16:48] <cradek> sorry, sometimes it's hard to give the right answer
[23:17:05] <andypugh> chopper79: Where did you get master from?
[23:17:16] <chopper79> You walked me through the install Andy
[23:17:26] <chopper79> 2.6 pre is still it right
[23:18:17] <andypugh> If it is from the buildbot, then that isn't much help. Did you compile from source? (I can't remember, I am absolutely hopeless with names)
[23:18:31] <chopper79> lol... yes source
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[23:21:01] <andypugh> OK, if you go into your linuxcnc directory and " git checkout joints_axes3" then "make" again, then you will have Ja3.
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[23:21:21] <andypugh> (And all your configs will need a bit of tweaking)
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[23:22:49] <PCW> Too bad Michael is not around, He's the JA3/Gantry expert
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[23:25:59] <findux> andypugh, hi . Do you have a little bit of time?
[23:26:10] <andypugh> A very little bit.
[23:27:51] <findux> I tried and EMC2 errors windows give me some errors like this [22241.076141] genhexkins: Unknown symbol pmCartCartSub [22241.076281] genhexkins: Unknown symbol pmCartMag [22241.076527] genhexkins: Unknown symbol pmCartCartAdd [22241.076664] genhexkins: Unknown symbol pmMatCartMult [22241.076802] genhexkins: Unknown symbol pmCartUnit [22241.077070] genhexkins: Unknown symbol pmCartCartCross [22241.077290] genhexkins: Unknown symbol pmR
[23:28:26] <andypugh> Is this with "comp" or "make"?
[23:29:01] <findux> with make
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[23:30:00] <andypugh> Can you pastebin your genhexkins.h file?
[23:32:02] <findux> but also not chanced genhexkins.h file I have tried
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[23:34:17] <findux> I decided to try linuxcnc dev version src. how can i get it?
[23:35:36] <andypugh> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Installing_LinuxCNC#Installing_to_Ubuntu_10_04_or_8_04_from_source
[23:35:53] <andypugh> (section 2.2 specifically)
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[23:43:39] <findux> My machine control pc is offline. I want to download on windows pc . I forgot how it's done :)
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[23:45:08] <andypugh> It's probably somewhere on that page..
[23:45:50] <findux> ok thanks
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