#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-03-28

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[00:00:10] <Tom_itx> it uses the TPI protocol for those
[00:00:17] <Tom_itx> instead of ISP
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[00:00:25] <JT-Shop> ah you lost me now
[00:00:35] <Tom_itx> just another programming protocol
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[00:00:41] <JT-Shop> ok
[00:00:47] <Tom_itx> avr has 3 basic ones, ISP, TPI and PDI
[00:00:55] <JT-Shop> ok
[00:00:56] <Tom_itx> ISP is for most 8bit avrs
[00:01:03] <Tom_itx> PDI is for the xmegas
[00:01:15] <Tom_itx> and TPI is just for the attiny 4 5 9 and 10
[00:01:19] <Tom_itx> 6 pin chips
[00:01:32] <JT-Shop> I need to switch a opto with the output and the input is a magnet reed switch
[00:01:35] <Tom_itx> mine supports all 3
[00:01:55] <JT-Shop> sold
[00:02:01] <Tom_itx> the tiny10 has internal osc 12mhz
[00:02:18] <Tom_itx> so you really don't need much for external components except passives
[00:02:52] <JT-Shop> cool
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[00:03:06] <JT-Shop> this is for a tipping bucket rain gauge
[00:03:14] <Tom_itx> i don't have any more of those boards or i'd give you one
[00:03:41] <JT-Shop> does the tiny 10 come in a pin version?
[00:03:45] <Tom_itx> no
[00:03:54] <Tom_itx> just sot23-6
[00:03:55] <Tom_itx> afik
[00:04:12] <Tom_itx> there's other tinys that do
[00:04:16] <JT-Shop> be easier to prototype if I could use a breadboard
[00:04:31] <Tom_itx> but it's just so small and would work for that
[00:05:12] <JT-Shop> will it turn an opto on and off?
[00:05:27] <Tom_itx> i don't see why not
[00:05:46] <Tom_itx> just like any other avr just small
[00:05:49] <JT-Shop> ok, I don't have much of a clue about this...
[00:06:26] <JT-Shop> I did see that you need a 330Mohm or something on the switch side of the opto
[00:06:28] <Tom_itx> i'm not sure what tiny avrs come in dip but i'm sure some do
[00:06:38] <Tom_itx> just about any of them would work for that
[00:06:40] <JT-Shop> same as a led
[00:06:45] <JT-Shop> cool
[00:06:57] <Tom_itx> just for the opto led yes
[00:07:01] <JT-Shop> what software do you use for avr's?
[00:07:12] <Tom_itx> winavr
[00:07:20] <Tom_itx> gnu c
[00:07:31] <Tom_itx> and the notepad that comes with it
[00:07:37] <Tom_itx> you can use studio if you want
[00:07:58] <Tom_itx> i use studio to upload the code just because it's easier
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[00:08:11] <Tom_itx> but avrdude works just fine, it's just a cmd line program is all
[00:08:21] <L84Supper> anyone ever use the CAM tools in NX (unigraphics) to generated G-code for LinuxCNC?
[00:08:48] <JT-Shop> OK Tom, I'll chew on this a bit and buzz you tomorrow
[00:08:52] <JT-Shop> thanks
[00:08:59] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/avr/studio/
[00:09:12] <Tom_itx> you can pull studio there if you want, that way you don't need to register with them
[00:09:21] <JT-Shop> ok cool
[00:09:23] <Tom_itx> studio 4 is good enough
[00:09:30] <Tom_itx> get that and the service pack for it
[00:09:55] <Tom_itx> avrstudio4setup418.exe and avrstudio4.18sp3.exe
[00:10:17] <Tom_itx> you will still need winavr though for the c
[00:10:49] <JT-Shop> run setup I assume
[00:10:55] <Tom_itx> yup
[00:11:06] <JT-Shop> ok
[00:11:16] <Tom_itx> what ver windows?
[00:11:31] <JT-Shop> here is win 7 I think
[00:11:36] <Tom_itx> should be ok
[00:12:06] <JT-Shop> yep win 7 here and win xp pro down in the beer cave
[00:12:22] <Tom_itx> http://sourceforge.net/projects/winavr/files/
[00:13:11] <JT-Shop> ok downloading
[00:13:38] <JT-Shop> dinner bell for me
[00:13:41] <JT-Shop> thanks
[00:13:47] <Tom_itx> yup
[00:14:51] <Tom_itx> that comes with programmers notepad which is what i use to write c
[00:17:17] <Tom_itx> tjb1, that was the only mention of it at all
[00:17:28] <tjb1> Actually they were talking about it
[00:17:34] <tjb1> A few of them
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[00:40:07] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/dtsX7B8.jpg
[00:40:31] <tjb1> what happened r00t4rd3d ?
[00:40:41] <tjb1> dec-ember?
[00:41:10] <r00t4rd3d> i need to sand the middle of that again, just touched it up
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[00:41:57] <Jymmm> r00t4rd3d: how much prep work do you do on the wood even before carving?
[00:42:03] <r00t4rd3d> none
[00:42:07] <tjb1> married or kid?
[00:42:29] <Jymmm> r00t4rd3d: I see radius edges and corners
[00:42:54] <tjtr33> JT-Shop, this really looks like your description, count to N, then output a pulse of width W http://tutorialelectronic.com/?p=302
[00:42:55] <r00t4rd3d> i put painters or masking tape over the wood
[00:43:13] <tjtr33> it aint an attiny10 but shoudl be close
[00:43:20] <r00t4rd3d> Jymmm, i had my machine do that, i sanded it some by hand too
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[00:44:40] <tjtr33> JT-Shop, and the Pickit2 is very compatible with pics :) ( also is a debugger )
[00:44:40] <Jymmm> r00t4rd3d: how long to dry before sanding the paint?
[00:44:53] <r00t4rd3d> hour or so
[00:44:55] <r00t4rd3d> i mask it
[00:45:02] <r00t4rd3d> so not much sanding
[00:45:19] <Jymmm> r00t4rd3d: there's still bleed. water based paint?
[00:45:27] <Jymmm> laytex? oil?
[00:45:41] <r00t4rd3d> acyclic in my cuts then a coat of oil
[00:45:51] <r00t4rd3d> err
[00:46:02] <r00t4rd3d> acrylic
[00:46:05] <Jymmm> oh, thts what it drys quickly.
[00:46:13] <Jymmm> why
[00:46:27] <r00t4rd3d> i got a mini heat gun I use sometimes but it was warm enoug out today
[00:46:54] <Jymmm> k
[00:51:23] <r00t4rd3d> board i used was warped too and i could only clamp the ends
[00:51:50] <r00t4rd3d> they are little deeper in the middle but i dont really give a shit for the price i charged
[00:53:50] <Jymmm> which was?
[00:53:57] <r00t4rd3d> what
[00:54:07] <Jymmm> the price i charged
[00:54:14] <r00t4rd3d> 45 each
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[00:54:18] <Jymmm> k
[00:54:53] <r00t4rd3d> i got the oak for 10 bucks
[00:54:59] <r00t4rd3d> for both of them :)
[00:55:06] <r00t4rd3d> enough^
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[01:49:42] <tjtr33> if i use pncconf with a 5i20 and only ask for 3 stepgens, the produced config makes only 6 pins (xyz step/dir pirs)
[01:49:51] <tjtr33> The other pins are gpio. Are there unused gates available for custom functions? ( timers counters plc-like functions)
[01:49:53] <tjtr33> Has anyone tried custom logic and connected to pins that were usually gpio?
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[01:51:49] <tjb1_> What size wire do I need for a 200 amp service?
[01:53:10] <Jymmm> 4/0 ???
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[02:06:10] <r00t4rd3d> ask your local code enforcement office.
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[02:06:49] <skunkworks> tjtr33: yes
[02:07:21] <skunkworks> I am using 96 pins as gpio - some are run by ladder logic - some are run by hal comps...
[02:08:07] <skunkworks> (from 2 5i20's)
[02:09:30] <tjtr33> skunkworks, thanks, i meant use unused gates, the internal logic, like... did you create any vhdl code logic and connect the result to pins?
[02:09:55] <skunkworks> oh - no. It was all controled by linuxcnc.
[02:10:37] <skunkworks> so - all the logic was within linuxcnc - using the gpio pins
[02:10:46] <tjtr33> any idea if this has been done? i bet a lot of gates are unused, and something like Hal could be in custom bit file for a specific purpose
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[02:11:00] <skunkworks> not that I know of.
[02:11:05] <tjtr33> like JT's counter, like my oscillator
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[02:11:49] <skunkworks> why when linuxcnc can do it just fine? Otherwis you need a bit file to do what you want..
[02:11:55] <tjtr33> thanks, i can see how Hal or ladder could control a gpio pin. but this would be dang fast, no processor involved
[02:12:31] <skunkworks> sure - there are work arounds.. You can use a step gen as a frequency generator and such...
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[02:15:25] <jdh> anyone use windows draftsight?
[02:16:26] <tjtr33> any idea if there are unused gates available or are they just un-wired.
[02:16:29] <tjtr33> i really dont see which files are used by the 5i20 config for 3 stepgens ( in the 5i20 zip of src files from Mesa )
[02:16:56] <tjtr33> so its difficult to see what resources are used up and which are available
[02:18:46] <tjtr33> ^^ thats in the Hostmot2 zip file sorry
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[02:38:11] <PCW> Some 5I20 configs are 100% full
[02:38:46] <PCW> stepgens are big (48 bit accumulator)
[02:39:51] <PCW> sserial is fairly big (8 bit processor plus up to 8 UARTs)
[02:41:15] <PCW> ResolverMod is big (32 bit processor + lots of interface goo) and needs too much BRAM to fit in a 5I20
[02:41:28] <PCW> BRAM+MULT
[02:43:07] <tjtr33> PCW thanks, is it reasonable to try to add custom functions to a 4 axis stepgen ( no encoders no pwms no sserial no resolver)?
[02:44:12] <PCW> Its a fair amount of work to add a new module (and the driver needs to support it as well)
[02:44:25] <PCW> what function do you need?
[02:45:32] <tjtr33> 2 one shots, 9bit iirc, a clock divider to drive the oneshots, triggers for the oneshots.
[02:46:13] <PCW> what times?
[02:47:20] <tjtr33> 2^29 sorry 20nS interval i figured with 20nS 50mHz clock, the times would be programmable
[02:47:49] <tjtr33> i was just trying to save on the 32 bits, trimming to the needed range
[02:47:57] <PCW> External iinput trigger?
[02:48:22] <tjtr33> yes, trigger the 1st one shot, but it triggers the 2nd
[02:48:34] <tjtr33> (2nd not xtrnl trgr)
[02:48:58] <tjtr33> i dont mind adding another card/pport adapter
[02:49:41] <tjtr33> thus freeing the whole card for this
[02:50:42] <PCW> that should be really tiny, you could probably put 64 or so in a 5I20
[02:51:43] <PCW> if its just one it should not be a problem
[02:52:28] <tjtr33> great, so i should keep reading Cho.
[02:53:04] <tjtr33> the unused pins become gpio, what files have that magic? "make whatever is leftover into gpio" or maybe "make all gpio except these stepgens/pwms..."
[02:53:36] <PCW> except hacking it in (if you look at the PWMgen you can see the logic needed to make a bus interfaced module that crosses clock domains)
[02:54:08] <PCW> (the 5I20 PWMGEN runs at 100 MHz so your timer can as well)
[02:55:08] <tjtr33> pwmpdmgenh.vhd & pwmrefh.vhd?
[02:55:21] <PCW> but this requires crossing from the 33Mhz bus interface domain to the 100 MHz domain (though maybe there no logic needed if you dont dynamically change time values while running)
[02:55:48] <PCW> just the gen the ref is just a counter
[02:56:28] <tjtr33> thanks, i knew a bus i/f would be needed, can i just poll it at the end of each 'behavioral' completion?
[02:57:22] <tjtr33> well, i knew some method of communicating the desired values would be needed
[02:57:33] <PCW> I would take an existing module and hack it
[02:58:25] <tjtr33> suggestion? i dotn see which .vhd file would be used by the simple 3 axis stepper i mentioned
[02:58:33] <tjtr33> file(s)
[02:59:07] <PCW> a very common and compact way to make a timer is a down counter where the msb being set ends the time period
[02:59:49] <PCW> all config use all files (the PIN_XXXX files determine whats built)
[03:00:00] <tjtr33> if counter(29) yes
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[03:01:14] <tjtr33> i have PIN_SVST4_8_72.vhd open now and dont see how it knows the behavior of a stepgen
[03:02:20] <PCW> I would use
[03:02:22] <PCW> if count(31) = '0' then
[03:02:24] <PCW> count <= count -1;
[03:02:25] <PCW> else ...
[03:03:59] <PCW> the PIN file thats included determines which modules are generated
[03:04:51] <PCW> in hostmot2.vhd there are a bunch of conditional generate functions
[03:04:59] <tjtr33> yep, got that idea sketched out ( watch hi bit), preload with a value so the hi bit trgrs after NnS.
[03:05:06] <tjtr33> ooh you fast!
[03:05:50] <tjtr33> hey, i'll sketch up a behaviour and maybe you could look at it some day soon? promis it wont be more than 1 page
[03:06:44] <PCW> also look at the watcgdog it works that way
[03:07:20] <tjtr33> again, thanks,will look at watchdog, it emits some signal or pin, okay
[03:08:15] <tjtr33> cool thats about as large as i care to read :)
[03:08:19] <PCW> well you set the time, its re-triggers by a host write and it uses the MSB trick (to avoid a (big) compare)
[03:10:22] <tjtr33> if i init it to sizeofregister - desirednumberoftiks, then i trgr after numberoftiks cool,, no compare
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[03:11:49] <tjtr33> numberoftiks = desireduSecs *100 with a 10nS clock
[03:12:24] <tjtr33> plenty to work on thanks!
[03:12:59] <PCW> probably need an edge detector/filter on the input (though that will add a small but fixed delay)
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[03:15:51] <tjtr33> ah on the trigger, ok (the clock doesnt need filter)
[03:16:14] <PCW> clock is internal 100 MHz spine
[03:16:41] <PCW> trigger input is (possibly dirty) external logic input
[03:17:11] <tjtr33> right, time delay, read read, compare, accept/reject
[03:17:17] <PCW> needs to be cleaned up an synchronized to the 100 MHz clock
[03:18:16] <PCW> look at encoder inputs. they do this
[03:18:21] <PCW> bbl
[03:18:31] <tjtr33> thx, gnite!
[03:22:12] <tjtr33> encoder = qcounter = quadrature counter if you look at the file names
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[03:49:15] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d:
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[04:09:33] <tjb1> here r00t4rd3d, this is what I need :P https://www.dropbox.com/s/13pedv2syg8lrxb/acrylicbedletteredcentered.dxf
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[05:10:43] <tjtr33> ah, scite has a vhdl mode, needs to be enabled in /usr/share/scite/SciTEGlobal.properties,
[05:10:44] <tjtr33> then you can fold the vhdl and see the code structure
[05:10:58] <tjtr33> (had to do similar for .asm files )
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[05:15:20] <tjtr33> goodnite
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[07:50:00] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[08:26:20] <r00t4rd3d> 4am nice
[08:26:30] <r00t4rd3d> going to bed at 10pm wasnt a good idea
[08:26:48] <archivist> 8:26 am and cold, not so nice
[08:27:16] <DJ9DJ> 9:26 am here
[08:27:51] <DJ9DJ> archivist seems to have utc time
[08:27:59] <DJ9DJ> england?
[08:28:08] <archivist> yes england
[08:28:11] <DJ9DJ> :)
[08:41:41] <r00t4rd3d> oh shit, B-2's headed to south korea
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[10:56:53] <L84Supper> r00t4rd3d: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2_%28New_York_City_bus%29#B2 kind of out of the way for a bus line
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[11:01:33] <L84Supper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtR0e4E5QR8&feature=player_embedded POSTPROCESSOR BUILDING - "Get the code you want by customizing your posts with Post Builder"
[11:01:34] <Tecan> (GtR0e4E5QR8) "POSTPROCESSOR BUILDING - "Get the code you want by customizing your posts with Post Builder"" by "SiemensPLM" is "Tech" - Length: 0:23:44
[11:02:11] <L84Supper> I just need to make sure we have the g-code for LInuxCNC in the NX library
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[11:39:22] <ProxDem> heya guys hate to ask again...what's JT-Shop-3s webpage URL again?
[11:39:46] <ProxDem> nvm found it
[11:39:53] <DJ9DJ> lol
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[11:53:25] <jthornton> wow, someone actually looks at my web site :)
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[11:56:57] <cncinator> hi
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[12:01:17] <cncinator> anyone here using a Komet W30 tip?
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[12:11:27] <Tom_itx> jthornton, i just realized the tiny10's can only be programmed in asm using that version of winavr however the new Studio 6 does support them with c. It's a rather large package to install
[12:11:56] <jthornton> ok, easy is best for me
[12:12:13] <Tom_itx> i wrote a sample for you last night
[12:12:32] <jthornton> I have to run and go to the Dr, I'll be back in a couple of hrs
[12:12:42] <jthornton> thanks for the help
[12:12:50] <Tom_itx> i'll post a link to the file.. i'll be leaving shortly
[12:13:06] <jthornton> ok, I'll get it when I get back
[12:13:40] <Tom_itx> it uses the INT0 pin with input capture interrupt
[12:15:37] <Tom_itx> i just copied the whole studio6 project over
[12:15:48] <Tom_itx> the int0.c is the file
[12:16:56] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/INT0/
[12:17:52] <Tom_itx> later..
[12:18:24] <Tom_itx> btw, that can be ported to just about any avr8
[12:22:44] <roh> avr8?
[12:24:12] <cncinator> i orderered a arduino uno as i heared im able to program attiny85 with it :>
[12:31:55] <Tom_itx> probably so
[12:32:09] <Tom_itx> a bit of a hassle i think though
[12:33:02] <Tom_itx> my programmer will program all the 8bit avrs
[12:33:21] <Tom_itx> gtg..
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[12:35:14] <cncinator> i bet u have professionell equipment, but im a bloody uc beginner :)
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[12:38:15] <ProxDem> jthornton: yes I love the info there
[12:38:35] <ProxDem> almost tempted to make a hard copy of it on my server =P (but I won't don't worry)
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[12:43:27] <L84Supper> PCW: http://www.wandboard.org/index.php/buy finally in stock most places
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[12:47:04] <R2E4_awy> What does a wandboard do?
[12:48:12] <R2E4_awy> nevermind. Thats pretty cool
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[15:33:24] <tjb1> Emailed Les about a post…forgot to attach the files showing what the post should do :(
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[15:36:49] <jdh> gmail often warns you if you forget to attach a document
[15:36:53] <jdh> kind of creepy
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[15:38:03] <tjb1> I forgot to attach files in 2 emails!
[15:38:12] <tjb1> mac mail and live.com don't
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[16:32:34] <Jymmm> jdh: Usually, you'll have "I've attached..." in the body of the message, TB does that.
[16:33:15] <Jymmm> jdh: no comment on the creep factor =)
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[16:34:02] <Jymmm> jdh: There are other "creep factors" that google does as well
[16:34:22] <DJ9DJ> re
[16:34:28] <DJ9DJ> greetings Jymmm :)
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[16:34:44] <Jymmm> hi DJ9DJ
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[17:05:48] <gene77> g2-3 troubles again. I have vars that mark the corners of a piece and the exact centers via probing with the cutting tool. I want to cut a 180 degree convex face on both x ends but I'm getting either zero arc, or huge errors
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[17:07:44] <gene77> So what sort of syntax would I use when its sitting at the + corner of both travels to arrive at the x corner of x and the inverse of the currant y position? Reading the docs, I seems like it should be pretty simple.
[17:08:16] <gene77> So what sort of syntax would I use when its sitting at the + corner of both travels to arrive at the +x corner of x and the inverse of the currant y position? Reading the docs, I seems like it should be pretty simple.
[17:10:27] <jdh> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.4/html/g2-3.png
[17:10:29] <jdh> like that?
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[17:13:36] <gene77> Yes, I have it printed wihin the last 4 months
[17:14:07] <gene77> except this is 2.6.0-pre uptodate
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[17:15:13] <jdh> g1 to whatever position, g[2|3] destination position, i/j at the arc center?
[17:17:43] <gene77> Thats what I need to do, but obviously I'm screwing up the arc center calcs
[17:19:38] <gene77> Arc center j s/b #<_x_r> where its sitting right now, right?
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[17:22:30] <gene77> another thing I see, the dro says x is at 0.2747, but the start var in the error msg says -0.2980???
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[17:22:49] <gene77> another thing I see, the dro says x is at 0.2747, but the x start var in the error msg says -0.2980???
[17:23:22] <gene77> where the heck did the - sign come from
[17:24:22] <jdh> your keyboard.
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[17:24:54] <gene77> funny
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[17:30:29] <gene77> seems like I should be able to say g2 y#front j=current x pos
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[17:31:26] <archivist> you know you can print your values to debug your code
[17:31:44] <gene77> and it would go to y_front, pivoting on the current x position if it assume i=0 when not given
[17:32:00] <gene77> yup
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[17:37:08] <gene77> something else isn't working : (print, "text="#<_var>) isn't working when I run the code.
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[17:44:08] <gene77> ahh, I see, prints goto stderr, use debug, that works where I can see it.
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[17:52:36] <gene77> Is this one of those cases where I have to do a 180 arc 90 degress at a time?
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[17:54:49] <cradek> you never have to do that in linuxcnc, only some very old controls
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[17:59:33] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[18:00:09] <L84Supper> yikes! $22K for Mastercam's multiaxis mill package
[18:00:42] <IchGuckLive> go for the University aplication 2Years for 200USD
[18:01:01] <IchGuckLive> or try with Deskproto
[18:01:45] <L84Supper> has to be 5-axis min.
[18:01:54] <IchGuckLive> NP
[18:02:09] <IchGuckLive> look in the demo tutorials
[18:02:27] <L84Supper> can you customize the postprocessor?
[18:02:51] <IchGuckLive> yes it is in functions like sheetmetall
[18:03:01] <IchGuckLive> sheetcam Sorry B)
[18:04:04] <L84Supper> NX lets you write your own TCL for their postprocesor but then you're back up to >$10K
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[18:05:31] <IchGuckLive> i know as i am in education JOB on this tuff i got every 2 years all mayture CADCAM stuff for info and tryouts to get 2000 licence etch
[18:06:13] <L84Supper> I need to fund PyCAM to support 5-axis
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[18:06:53] <IchGuckLive> Catia,ProE,Solidworks-edge, i got 8000students every year so they try hard on me to change the system
[18:07:24] <L84Supper> you're a marketing channel for them :)
[18:07:25] <IchGuckLive> as they think if studens go in factories they may use the system as they are traind on
[18:07:51] <IchGuckLive> Therfor i go Heekscad !! O.O in 2 lessons
[18:08:13] <IchGuckLive> sheetcam for plasma and laser
[18:08:24] <archivist> not sure if pycam can ever get there, better stating with something faster
[18:08:24] <L84Supper> do they just ask you nicely or do they fly you out to Las Vegas for *meetings*?
[18:08:28] <IchGuckLive> librecad as CAD
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[18:09:18] <IchGuckLive> L84Supper: its the UNIversity chief that flys not the teatchers as it is everywhere in the world
[18:09:36] <L84Supper> this is for additive manufacturing, so there aren't cutting tools, there are only adding tools, but the principals are similar
[18:09:40] <IchGuckLive> not the workers take the X-mas benefit its always the chief
[18:09:59] <L84Supper> heh, it's good to be the king
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[18:10:15] <IchGuckLive> es yu speak
[18:10:39] <IchGuckLive> i need to fight for a new keyboard
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[18:18:56] <gene77> humm, even more weird. The trace as I load the code shows the circle on the right end of the backtrace, but when I run it, the trace is then drawn on nthe left end like I tried to write the code
[18:19:12] <gene77> WTF?
[18:19:31] <gene77> restart lcnc time I believe
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[18:31:54] <gene77> Didn't help! the white backplot when I load the code is x mirrored when I run the code. I have an excedrin headache
[18:32:36] <gene77> and an empty coffee cup, which is a major disaster BRB
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[18:36:05] <gene77> In the meantime does anyone have a clue? I'm fresh out.
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[18:38:24] <gene77> This reversal of check trace and actual motion for x is true regardless of backplot orientation, so its not there
[18:39:46] <gene77> Have I actually found a buglet?
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[18:42:47] <gene77> Is there a difference in how it treats an x#<_x_var>, and an x-#<_x_var> (note minus sign) between load checking tracing and actual execution?
[18:43:13] <gene77> There are several instances of the form of sign changing in my code
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[18:53:11] <archivist> gene77, until you pastebin something (a reproducable test case) no one can guess
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[20:17:11] <gene77> I have the code working now, so I'll paste a screen shot but without disabling some of the code, the backlot reversal won't show. So let me do that and take a screenshot I can pit on imagebin
[20:17:24] <gene77> I have the code working now, so I'll paste a screen shot but without disabling some of the code, the backlot reversal won't show. So let me do that and take a screenshot I can put on imagebin
[20:17:39] <gene77> pit/put above
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[20:25:24] <gene77> damn snapshots own window covered whats important, I'll do another
[20:28:17] <gene77> see http://imagebin.org/251995
[20:29:00] <gene77> I need to go to the house for 10 minutes
[20:32:50] <Jymmm> gene77: 9m 45s...
[20:33:00] <Jymmm> gene77: 9m 29s...
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[20:40:15] <gene77> smart a..
[20:40:51] <gene77> :)
[20:41:13] <gene77> can you all see what I mean?
[20:42:03] <archivist> can anyone without the matching gcode
[20:43:46] <gene77> Hang on
[20:46:09] <gene77> http://pastebin.ca/2344331
[20:48:15] <gene77> Also, is there a way to turn off the probe stops once the probing has been done, I just broke a $12 bit because I forgot to hook it back up.
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[20:53:40] <Jymmm> gene77: I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass =)
[20:54:18] <gene77> chuckle, so would I
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[20:56:59] <gene77> Usually its me that gives lessons on being a smartass...
[20:57:42] <Jymmm> Lessons?
[20:58:44] <gene77> I took the m2 stopper out and it looks like its working about right, cutting air of course. Yeah, IF I can think fast enough. At my age that seems to be slowing down, darnit.
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[21:11:53] <gene77> I /think/ I have a way figured out to make the probe stops go away.
[21:12:49] <gene77> I usually do the probing with the cutting bit, running in reverse at 300 or so revs so it can touch without doing much damage.
[21:14:06] <gene77> IF I feed the probe from the spindle reversing signal, that would go away when I run the spindle fwd. Problem solved?
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[21:55:56] <Aero-Tec> hello
[21:56:09] <tjb1> heya
[21:56:14] <Aero-Tec> have a problem
[21:56:52] <Aero-Tec> is the lower variable numbers reserved?
[21:57:05] <Aero-Tec> sat 1 to 20 or so
[21:57:09] <Aero-Tec> say
[21:57:39] <Aero-Tec> like are they not used for subs or something
[21:57:55] <Aero-Tec> so you can use them if you do not do subs
[21:58:21] <Aero-Tec> its foggy but I think I remember something about that
[21:59:15] <Aero-Tec> 1 to 30 or so used to pass variable info to and from subs
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[22:02:48] <tjb1> Sorry Aero-Tec, I don't know
[22:03:13] <andypugh> There is something about global / non-global.
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[22:04:43] <andypugh> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/overview.html#sec:parameters
[22:04:52] <andypugh> parameters > 31 are global.
[22:06:28] <Aero-Tec> yes
[22:06:58] <Aero-Tec> and no return value
[22:07:26] <Aero-Tec> easy fix
[22:07:28] <Aero-Tec> thanks
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[22:25:04] <andypugh> I wish I had realised that there were two types of inductive prox switches (shielded and unshielded). I now have quite a lot of unshielded ones and then a bunch of unshielded ones that will actually do what I wanted on the way.
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[22:36:03] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[23:10:34] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/uk2AAHa.jpg
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[23:29:39] * JT-Shop knows he should be doing something besides reading forums...
[23:32:31] <r00t4rd3d> beat the wife and feed the dog
[23:33:04] <r00t4rd3d> or vise versa
[23:33:24] <JT-Shop> wife is at work and the dog is napping
[23:33:40] <r00t4rd3d> borrow your neighbors
[23:33:49] <JT-Shop> wife or dog
[23:33:57] <r00t4rd3d> fuck it, both
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[23:36:42] <JT-Shop> now I know for sure you have not seen my neighbors...
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[23:39:01] <andypugh> I want this, and I don't know why. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BALTEC-Orbital-riveter-RN-081-/261191286254?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cd036bdee
[23:40:15] <JT-Shop> because it will look cool in your shop
[23:40:27] <tjb1> Hey fellas
[23:40:50] <JT-Shop> hi
[23:43:05] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop did you see that file i posted?
[23:43:23] <Tom_itx> should be pretty close to what you want
[23:45:17] <Tom_itx> except i didn't know how you wanted the output to toggle
[23:45:29] <JT-Shop> yes, but I'm a bit lost at the moment it kept asking for locations
[23:45:43] <Tom_itx> locations for what?
[23:45:55] <Tom_itx> that probably won't compile under studio 4
[23:46:17] <Tom_itx> they just added support for the tiny10 in studio 6
[23:46:29] <JT-Shop> ok, that is what I tried to open it with
[23:46:49] <Tom_itx> prior to that, it was asm only for the attiny10
[23:46:51] <JT-Shop> it can be a bigger on like a 16
[23:47:14] <r00t4rd3d> tjb1, http://i.imgur.com/eGAnc8M.jpg
[23:47:19] <Tom_itx> i started an asm version that would compile under studio 4 but i'm not done with it
[23:47:53] <tjb1> It might be lasered on mirrored acrylic
[23:47:58] <tjb1> Haven't heard back yet
[23:49:03] <r00t4rd3d> print me parts for a delta
[23:49:18] <tjb1> I don't have any filament right now
[23:49:28] <r00t4rd3d> stick a roll from school in your backpack
[23:49:31] <JT-Shop> I need to find a getting started tutorial for studo 4
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[23:54:18] <Tom_itx> i can get you started
[23:54:34] <Tom_itx> i would just use a text editor personally
[23:54:59] <JT-Shop> ok, I like notepad++
[23:55:10] <Tom_itx> or the one that comes with winavr
[23:55:15] <Tom_itx> programmers notepad
[23:55:40] <JT-Shop> I'll have to look for that one
[23:55:44] <Tom_itx> and i can give you a fairly universal make file
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[23:56:05] <Tom_itx> i like it because you can compile from within the editor
[23:56:32] <JT-Shop> downloading winavr now
[23:56:45] <Tom_itx> it's in the \winavr\pn directory
[23:57:10] <Tom_itx> it's got menu items for 'make clean' 'make all'
[23:57:16] <Tom_itx> which call your makefile
[23:57:44] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/avr/
[23:57:53] <Tom_itx> probably any of the makefiles you find in there will work
[23:58:03] <Tom_itx> just edit the target
[23:59:28] <Tom_itx> have you found another attiny you would rather use?