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[00:22:18] <L84Supper2> OT: wow, NFL football with the play by play in Mandarin... this very bizarre
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[00:27:42] <s1dev> lol
[00:29:38] <s1dev> any thoughts on welding vs bolting together a frame?
[00:31:09] <Jymmm> OK, WTF.... What is the likelyhood of two differnt car mfg using the SAME PN for a "fuel pump" hyundai and ford.
[00:31:36] <Jymmm> same year veh too
[00:37:07] <L84Supper2> s1dev: bolting won't require the use of a welder
[00:38:03] <s1dev> and that's about it?
[00:38:23] <L84Supper2> bolt are usually easier to remove
[00:38:48] <L84Supper2> are you going to set it up and never move it?
[00:39:07] <L84Supper2> how good are your welds?
[00:39:40] <s1dev> good point
[00:42:43] <L84Supper2> s1dev: what size are you shooting for?
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[00:47:26] <s1dev> L84Supper2: probably 3'x6'
[00:47:39] <s1dev> not sure about Z
[00:48:59] <L84Supper2> whats the going price of steel shapes per lb?
[00:50:18] <L84Supper2> we used to use non-spec steel pipe for budget projects like this
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[00:51:15] <s1dev> I have no clue about steel prices right now
[00:51:44] <L84Supper2> we used to get it for just over the price of scrap
[00:52:19] <L84Supper2> it wasn't pressure tested or it didn't pass, but it was sched 40 or 80
[00:52:46] <L84Supper2> fine for frames or antenna masts etc etc
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[01:04:42] <s1dev> L84Supper2 looking online I'm seeing a lot of designs that use aluminum extrusions, are they able to support the weight of a spindle well?
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[01:05:39] <L84Supper2> s1dev: depends on the size,shape alloy of the extrusion and the mass and velocity of the spindle :)
[01:05:59] <L84Supper2> is a rock heavy?
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[02:10:37] <r00t4rd3d> not the ones you be slingin
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[02:33:27] <ReadError> r00t4rd3d, hows the wooden glock biz with the new NY gunlaws ?
[02:35:30] <r00t4rd3d> i was playing with a M4 model yesterday
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[02:46:58] <s1dev> according to wikipedia dovetail slides are not ideal for high precision applications, why is that?
[02:49:58] <Tom_itx> wear
[02:50:19] <Tom_itx> air bearings are probably the best for precision
[02:50:42] <Tom_itx> the cmm we had used air bearings on the axis
[02:54:14] <s1dev> so is there a reason why dovetail bearings would be better than a railed shaft?
[02:55:50] <s1dev> *dovetail slides
[02:58:44] <s1dev> something like this seems perfect for the X axis of a CNC router
http://www.mcmaster.com/#ball-bearing-carriages/=l4ihig
[02:58:56] <jdh> rigidity?
[02:59:37] <s1dev> wait, nevermind forgot to look at the price :P
[02:59:57] <Tom_itx> haha
[03:06:05] <ReadError> anyone ever machined "Impact-Resistant Slippery UHMW Polyethylene" ?
[03:06:45] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SBR16-600mm-rail-shaft-supports-with-SBR16UU-Linear-Bearing-unit-case-/130713385408?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6f1ff9c0
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[03:10:59] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2XSBR16-1150mm-16MM-FULLY-SUPPORTED-LINEAR-RAIL-SHAFT-4-SBR16UU-Rounter-Bearing-/251041496256?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a733d3cc0
[03:11:04] <r00t4rd3d> thats a good deal too
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[03:20:24] <r00t4rd3d> supported rails are the easiest setup to go with
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[03:25:49] <s1dev> would there be any concerns about a 3ft leadscrew?
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[03:29:15] <Tom_itx> whipping around
[03:29:50] <Tom_itx> there are lots of them longer than that but probably 2 or 3" diameter
[03:29:54] <Tom_itx> or more
[03:34:32] <s1dev> what about a rack and pinion?
[03:39:01] <ReadError> i want a rack and pinion ;(
[03:39:50] <ReadError> everyone told me too much backlash
[03:39:56] <ReadError> but boy would it be nice
[03:40:32] <s1dev> ReadError what are you using?
[03:42:05] <Tom_itx> http://bell-everman.com/products/linear-positioning/servobelt-linear-sbl
[03:42:18] <Tom_itx> http://bell-everman.com/products/linear-positioning/servobelt-linear-sbl
[03:42:36] <Tom_itx> click on 'how it works'
[03:43:39] <ReadError> s1dev, i want to build a router
[03:43:46] <ReadError> and rack & pinion sounds nice
[03:45:52] <s1dev> Tom_itx is it an aluminum extrusion or does it just mount to one?
[03:46:31] <Tom_itx> click on the 'products' tab
[03:46:57] <Tom_itx> and follow the SBL light duty link
[03:47:54] <Tom_itx> products -> linear positioning -> servobelt linear
[03:48:54] <r00t4rd3d> http://mcphee.com/shop/finger-hooks.html
[03:51:36] <r00t4rd3d> s1dev, I use a 3ft lead screw, only 3/8 too
[03:52:39] <s1dev> Tom_itx where do you buy it?
[03:53:07] <Tom_itx> i dunno
[03:53:14] <Tom_itx> look for a distributor list
[03:53:25] <Tom_itx> it looks pretty interesting to me
[03:54:53] <Tom_itx> http://www.bell-everman.com/sales-representatives
[03:54:54] <r00t4rd3d> u goto configure at the bottom
[03:55:07] <r00t4rd3d> and set your options then it will generate a quote
[03:56:02] <r00t4rd3d> which will probably be astronomical.
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[03:58:21] <s1dev> yeah, that sort of thing looks like something they're charging $200+ per axis
[03:58:47] <r00t4rd3d> they want to stick it in your axis
[04:01:48] <Tom_itx> ff doesn't like their calculator
[04:06:58] <r00t4rd3d> I would hope companies who sell encoders would know how to code.
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[04:10:55] <s1dev> would the backlash be significant on a rack and pinion systsem?
[04:18:48] <Tecan> what are hocky playoffs ? im an oilers fan
[04:18:54] <Tecan> :)
[04:19:21] <Tecan> oops wrong chan
[04:24:13] <r00t4rd3d> are you one of them canadians?
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[04:58:47] <Tecan> ya
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[05:10:17] <r00t4rd3d> welp, I wont be using google today
[05:12:44] <Tecan> why ?
[05:13:01] <Tecan> i need to figure out how to get my laser smoke out of my room
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[05:16:41] <Tecan> that rail shaft sale is a gooder
[05:18:30] <Tecan> Length: 1150mm ... ?
[05:20:16] <Tecan> 45 inches thats amazing length for that price
[05:20:28] <Tecan> or is that like 20 per rail ?
[05:20:54] <r00t4rd3d> you using a cnc laser cutter in your room?
[05:22:27] <Tecan> because thats where i am alot
[05:22:54] <Tecan> i forgot to make it enclosed
[05:23:09] <r00t4rd3d> pic?
[05:23:29] <Tecan> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olj-4C_0cLQ
[05:27:39] <r00t4rd3d> do you play with fire often?
[05:33:28] <Tecan> sometimes
[05:33:47] <Tecan> depends how freaqy im fealing
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[05:42:16] <Tecan> you ?
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[05:52:02] <Tecan> ReadError no but ide love to :)
[05:52:25] <Tecan> UHMWPE makes for some pretty tough armour
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[06:36:05] <Tecan> tjtr33 that font what was that
[06:36:15] <Tecan> ejyptian japanese... ?
[06:36:37] <tjtr33> font?
[06:36:43] <Tecan> J̣̤̲̟͇̳͈̎̃̀͛̏́̀ͣ͘ͅy̛̬̭̮̲̱͔ͩ͘m̖̬̝̙̤̄͗̿̕m̼̗̟̞̬̥̿͛͘͜m̈́͛̎͋̇̏́̚͝҉͇͓̹̰̙̜̥̘̯,̗̫̙̥͉̭̭͉̋͠ ̥͎̤̱͇̇̾ͭͤ̾ͦͯ́̀ͅi̧̭̗̬ͪͥ̌ͯ̅ͦͥš͍̖͙͊̏̕ ̱̺͈̳͙̍ͯ̏̇ͦͩ̓͡t̬̦͍̟̫̫̘͉̃͗̽͊͆̓͗ͯ͡h̸͍ͩ̇̔͞e̮̻̙̘̭ͮ̎̎ͣ̆͛̅̒̾ͅr͎ͫͭ͗̐e̖̙̟̜̭͚͇̻ͨ̐͗̐ͥ͑̾͘ ̴͔͙͖̮̟̰͍̠̒͋̊̍̚̕͡a͓͕̦̹̟̰̯̔ͧ̾̿̋ͦp̫̭̞̲̒̍͐̊͊r͐
[06:36:43] <Tecan> ̖̭͔̥ͭ̕p̫̭̞̲̒̍͐̊͊r̖̭͔̥͐ͭ̕ơ̬̠͙̟͐̿̑ͣͪͨ̐͐b͉͙̭͛ͨ̎́̇̉̀͠l̶͎̥̺͍̬̊ͧ̐͞ḛ͑̓̌̅͌̓m̫͓͇̼̮͓͉̱̈̇͢͟͡?̞͕̭̥͛̾͋̀̐̑͊ͩ
[06:36:57] <tjtr33> ask him ^^^
[06:37:26] <Tecan> oh i was looking for tjb1
[06:37:31] <tjtr33> ้ธเๆๆณฯบ
[06:37:49] <Tecan> its not the same... if you actually put it into google or something
[06:37:56] <Tecan> theres a ton of chars in there
[06:38:05] <Tecan> that stack vertically
[06:41:16] <tjtr33> when you have multiple .hal files, and a component of same type in each... well the 1st .hal has to loadrt it (like loadrt or2 count =3), this is kinda ugly, and hides knowledge of the loadrt from the 2nd file. better way?
[06:42:52] <Tecan> put it all in one file ?
[06:42:54] <Tecan> :)
[06:43:50] <tjtr33> ah, the 1st file is a stock file 'core_sim.hal' and i didnt wann mess with it
[06:44:11] <tjtr33> keep it virgin
[06:44:41] <tjtr33> else you need to keep a local copy of a stock file with non-standard content
[06:45:25] <tjtr33> no biggee, just clumsy
[06:52:28] <tjtr33> doh, just use local file w name that makes hack obvious [HAL] HALFILE = core_simHACKED.hal
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[07:12:10] <MattyMatt> Tecan PE armour degrades doesn't it? like that StarLite stuff that wouldn't work after 6 months in a vest
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[07:12:45] <MattyMatt> several security guards died to find that out
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[07:15:08] <Tecan> i was thinking more for knee pads and face mask
[07:15:51] <Tecan> maybe a neck protector
[07:16:33] <Tecan> a shot to the head will probably kill just from the vibration alone
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[07:17:10] <Tecan> mind you they wore those little tin helmets in ww2
[07:17:34] <Tecan> probably more for debree than to stop a bullet
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[08:00:35] <DJ9DJ> moin
[08:01:25] <Tecan> da
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[09:18:01] <Tecan> "Fork me, Im famous!" -
http://libmodbus.org/
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[09:43:28] <Tom_itx> you need cheap regulated supplies for your projects?
[09:43:30] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180947008880#ht_3326wt_1399
[09:43:41] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-Buck-Step-Down-Converter-Module-LM2596-Voltage-Regulator-Voltmeter-Red-/400369337180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d37df435c
[09:43:47] <Tom_itx> same with a display
[09:44:17] <Tom_itx> you can't build a smps for that
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[10:43:31] <Tecan> VΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛVΛ
[10:43:50] <DJ9DJ> indeed
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[11:00:27] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[11:14:23] <theos> o/
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[14:07:27] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[14:07:38] <IchGuckLive> is today the USA holiday
[14:07:48] <IchGuckLive> for incarnation of the ld president
[14:10:46] <mhaberler> well Obama _does_ walk over water according to Axelrod, but incarnation would be a new twist
[14:11:21] <IchGuckLive> B)
[14:13:01] <mrsun> yeah! grinding table done ... now i just need straight "grinders" for the machine
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[14:16:01] <ReadError> if im looking at the impact resistance of a material, and it says "No Break"
[14:16:10] <ReadError> what exactly does that mean? it will never snap?
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[14:16:39] <Loetmichel> mhaberler: WTF? you mean he cant walk over water?
[14:16:54] <Loetmichel> ... a world ios going down!
[14:16:55] <Loetmichel> -o
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[14:26:28] <mhaberler> German media insists on both: walking over water and reincarnation of, well, who was it again - a pity the germans cant vote for Obama, he'd have something like 105%
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[14:33:40] <Mr_Wolfsl> Hi all
[14:34:14] <Mr_Wolfsl> Anyone have the .ngc of this movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWKYQUj5AOs&list=UL_tA-W7nTNSc
[14:37:13] <skunkworks> Mr_Wolfsl, maybe jepler...
[14:37:21] <Loetmichel> mhaberler: i think more like 200%
[14:37:24] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[14:38:05] <Loetmichel> ... so the (the germans ) use roesler as a substitute ;-)=
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[14:52:22] <r00t4rd3d> https://github.com/araisrobo/linuxcnc/blob/master/nc_files/cone.ngc
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[14:54:56] <r00t4rd3d> searched for linuxcnc and the name of the file that was opened.
[14:55:12] <r00t4rd3d> Im genius like that.
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[16:44:30] <Tecan> http://i.imgur.com/VqEef6b.jpg << is my room getting any cleaner ? i took out the bigscreen now
[16:46:04] * archivist wonders what ess aich one tee is out of view
[16:48:11] <skunkworks> I think everyone has that 'digital electronics' book
[16:49:04] <Tecan> i have art of electronics up there too
[16:49:21] <Tecan> too hardcore for me tho
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[16:59:32] <archivist> the art of electronics is a bit naff and lacks detail imo
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[17:00:28] <Tecan> aimed at people who can understand dsp
[17:00:54] <Tecan> or atleast the maths involved
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[17:01:58] <archivist> skunkworks, I dont have the digital electronics book :)
[17:02:06] <skunkworks> heh
[17:02:21] <skunkworks> you don't need it. - you're ok than...
[17:02:46] <Tecan> :)
[17:02:50] <archivist> I got a few books but not that one
[17:03:18] <skunkworks> then
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[17:06:06] <archivist> Tecan, do not worry about untidy, all doers "suffer"
[17:06:54] <Tecan> think i might have OCD though
[17:07:05] <Tecan> its managable but i do like things clean
[17:07:28] <archivist> my lounge was once nearly tidy
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2001/2001_10_11_lounge/P1010001.JPG
[17:08:39] <Tecan> holy
[17:09:09] <Tecan> you need a scanner
[17:09:18] <cradek> archivist: hp unix workstation? I recognize that monitor and keyboard.
[17:09:26] <mrsun> that room is about as much panic as i can get :P
[17:09:38] <archivist> cradek, yes still have that
[17:10:07] <Jymmm> heh heh... "Book shelf"
[17:10:15] <Tecan> look at all the ide cables spewing out of that case
[17:11:04] <archivist> and scsi probably at that time
[17:11:28] <Jymmm> 24 DB9's? Serial?
[17:11:34] <archivist> Jymmm, 400 yards of shelf at the last count
[17:12:06] <Jymmm> archivist: No, the books holding UP the shelf instead of the other way around =)
[17:12:07] <archivist> yes that is an old Altos 1000 unix box
[17:12:19] <Jymmm> ah
[17:12:48] <Jymmm> That's a lot of serial cables to run
[17:12:55] <Tecan> 400 yards of shel with hardware or books mostly ?
[17:13:08] <cradek> to think 24 interactive users could happily share a cpu
[17:13:09] <archivist> books
[17:13:23] <Jymmm> cradek: They still can, just don't =)
[17:13:30] <Tecan> i can scan a 400 page book in half an hour
[17:13:32] <cradek> probably a 16-33 MHz cpu
[17:13:40] <Tecan> do double page scans
[17:13:50] <archivist> 16 meg 386
[17:14:03] <archivist> later upped to 25 iirc
[17:14:05] <Tecan> xsane has an auto flip page thingi
[17:14:17] <cradek> ah, I ran autocad on a similar machine (sun 386i)
[17:14:18] <Tecan> where it gives you like 1 or 2 secs to flip the page
[17:14:46] <Jymmm> archivist: Whats the TE with the blue screen?
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[17:15:03] <Jymmm> below the PS
[17:15:21] <Jymmm> shelf above the scope
[17:15:24] <archivist> scope with Fourier
[17:15:52] <archivist> made by data precision, has a 68000, but it is a bit dead now
[17:16:07] <Jymmm> heh
[17:16:29] <archivist> I need the manual for it
[17:18:33] <Tecan> archivist whats your setup look like now ?
[17:18:41] <Tecan> little cleaner i hope
[17:18:50] <archivist> ermmmmmm no
[17:19:48] <archivist> I do know what is on shelves though, I bar code the books and catalogue
[17:20:28] <ReadError> anyone ever cut UHMW ?
[17:20:48] <ReadError> Impact-Resistant UHMW Polyethylene Shee
[17:24:22] <archivist> I wonder if that would be as revolting to cut as some nylons are
[17:26:19] <ReadError> well it says to cut with HSS
[17:26:24] <ReadError> i only have carbide ;/
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[17:27:58] <archivist> cutters for plastics need to be very sharp
[17:30:34] <archivist> look at the fur on these before cleaning up
http://gears.archivist.info/gears/fan_gears.html
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[17:46:51] <IchGuckLive> hi all
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[17:52:12] <IchGuckLive> hi tjb1 how is the class today
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[18:16:16] <tjb1> Good IchGuckLive, how are you
[18:17:29] <IchGuckLive> cold
[18:21:50] <IchGuckLive> here the after coffee morning event ->
http://foengarage.de/21_jan_2013.jpg
[18:22:30] <IchGuckLive> the ice run along the side of my car
[18:22:49] <IchGuckLive> but i got a standing headsystem
[18:23:19] <IchGuckLive> 25min and it has been cleard out
[18:23:34] <DJ9DJ> get garage :D
[18:25:36] <IchGuckLive> what is the english word for this my translater gives no idee
[18:25:56] <DJ9DJ> ?
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[18:25:57] <IchGuckLive> heat in the car bevor motor starts
[18:26:23] <IchGuckLive> with fuel burn
[18:26:36] <IchGuckLive> Trucks do got this
[18:26:38] <DJ9DJ> standheizung? ;)
[18:26:46] <IchGuckLive> yes
[18:26:52] <IchGuckLive> in english
[18:27:21] <DJ9DJ> hm, dict.leo.org says auxiliary heating, park heating...
[18:27:42] <IchGuckLive> auxiliary heating sounds like NASA
[18:27:53] <DJ9DJ> lol
[18:27:56] <IchGuckLive> auxiliary power unit APU
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[18:52:24] <ReadError> IchGuckLive: if its that cold here, i just turn my car on with the heater/defroster full blast like 20 mins before i leave
[18:53:37] <IchGuckLive> turn the car on at this cold will kill the engine on time
[18:53:58] <IchGuckLive> therfor the header is good it warms up everything
[18:54:10] <IchGuckLive> and engie is on 40deg to start up
[18:54:51] <ReadError> they have cars that you can plug in
[18:54:58] <ReadError> engine warmers?
[18:55:04] <ReadError> not sure never lived anywhere that cold
[18:55:43] <IchGuckLive> its on the fuel system and burns a 100ml of fuel to head all up
[18:57:43] <IchGuckLive> ok parade is starting so i go watching flightpas
[18:57:44] <IchGuckLive> BY
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[18:59:59] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: Mine shipped
[19:01:35] <ReadError> printer?
[19:01:47] <tjb1> Sadly no
[19:01:50] <tjb1> Bluetooth obd2 scanner
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[19:30:33] <andypugh> There is a badly-advertised Monarch 10EE on that eBay for £500
[19:30:59] <andypugh> Too good to CNC though.
[19:32:49] <tjb1> I thought about converting a shoptask to cnc
[19:32:55] <tjb1> Keyword...thought
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[19:35:02] <andypugh> shoptask?
[19:36:46] <archivist> I just missed out on some angel grinders :)
[19:37:07] <archivist> 150981182242
[19:37:28] <cradek> hahaha
[19:37:57] <andypugh> I might have bid £5
[19:37:59] <cradek> "Do you believe in angles?" "Yes I see them everywhere I look!" (coworker)
[19:38:19] <archivist> but for meaty cnc nurrishment 130834554368
[19:38:51] <tjb1> Have any of you used Loctite 290(green)?
[19:39:55] <archivist> I avoid glues I tend to prefer press or other fits
[19:40:09] <andypugh> archivist: That Hurco looks like an ideal retrofit-for-profit
[19:40:58] <archivist> andypugh, but transport and the basic capital I dont have cannot afford
[19:41:17] <andypugh> I have exactly the same problems.
[19:41:22] <tjb1> How do you press fit a bolt? :P
[19:41:26] <andypugh> (I also lack the will)
[19:41:47] <andypugh> tjb1: Fitted bolts?
[19:42:28] <tjb1> Sounds expensive
[19:48:30] <tjb1> I just wanted to know if it actually worked
[19:49:30] <archivist> the real answer is...it depends
[19:57:55] <ReadError> im in the wrong line of work
[19:58:03] <ReadError> pulling logs out of a river is pretty profitable..
[20:01:24] <tjb1> So is making moonshine
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[20:31:37] <tjb1> Fastenal is a joke, never have anything I want
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[20:41:24] <mrsun> http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/150619_10151352242218648_1572811324_n.jpg http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/148328_10151352242158648_1942266670_n.jpg http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/45518_10151352242128648_2146536667_n.jpg success! =)
[20:41:30] <mrsun> let the rail grinding begin! =)
[20:41:36] <mrsun> i wonder if the links works ..
[20:41:37] <mrsun> :P
[20:43:34] <tjb1> Yes, what are you making?
[20:44:06] <mrsun> grinding table to make V rails
[20:44:17] <mrsun> insted of using a skate like mechmate
[20:44:25] <mrsun> i get a bonus with this one .. it will be a router table after :P
[20:44:35] <tjb1> I used the cncrp carriages
[20:44:45] <tjb1> I didnt have the time or motivation to make v-rails myself
[20:44:58] <mrsun> will not take long when i get the table done :P
[20:45:01] <mrsun> hehe
[20:45:10] <anonimasu> I machined myself V rollers to ride on rails instead, seemed like a cheap easy option
[20:45:12] <mrsun> just took a couple of days making the table and stuff :P
[20:45:51] <mrsun> http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/6638_10151350043888648_1427404812_n.jpg using a die grinder .. i will use a cylindrical grinding bit when i make the rails tho :P
[20:45:59] <anonimasu> tho, i got stuck at that got too much other stuff to machine...
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[20:48:06] <mrsun> those grinders realy cut steel like butter
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[20:49:33] <tjb1> I thought I seen an attachment somewhere for an angle grinder
[20:53:41] <tjb1> I dont think this is it but look towards bottom of thread -
http://www.mechmate.com/Forum/messages/11/3790.html
[20:56:02] <mrsun> heh that was a simple one =)
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[20:57:20] <mrsun> gonna try my version atleast =)
[20:57:36] <mrsun> got to be 2 days in the man cave now and refound some fun in this stuff =)
[21:00:16] <andypugh> Folk that have the time to paint use-once jigs are just showing off on the internet.
[21:00:53] <cradek> or who paint anything
[21:01:07] <JT-Shop> or put siding on
[21:01:27] <cradek> lathes don't work better with the castings all smoothed with epoxy and carefully painted
[21:01:37] <andypugh> Painting things that are going to have time to go rusty is reasonable.
[21:01:53] <cradek> of course I guess there's nothing wrong with being an artist as well as a machinist
[21:01:54] <mrsun> cradek, feels faster!
[21:02:08] <cradek> mrsun: nah, that's the off-center stripe
[21:02:36] <mrsun> i painted the guides of the lathe to protect them from rust
[21:02:39] <mrsun> and gears
[21:03:24] <DaViruz_> i paint the taper on all my tool holders
[21:03:31] <mrsun> :P
[21:03:37] <cradek> haha smart
[21:03:43] <cradek> and the ballscrews
[21:04:36] <mrsun> ye those realy needs to be painted
[21:04:44] <mrsun> so much exposed metal
[21:05:33] <DaViruz_> i don't mind nice looking painted machines thugh, less visual noise gives me mental comfort
[21:05:46] <DaViruz_> and i think that goes for most people
[21:05:46] <mrsun> mm
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[22:03:19] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[23:17:36] <JT-Shop> yea I got my axle drawn up
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[23:45:08] <ReadError> wonderin about spindle RPM for HDPE
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[23:45:18] <ReadError> i may try what i use for aluminum
[23:45:28] <toastydeath> as fast as you can go
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[23:45:35] <toastydeath> with a big chip load
[23:46:30] <ReadError> i can go to 10k, but worried about melting
[23:46:43] <toastydeath> your chip load is too small if you're melting it
[23:47:14] <toastydeath> use a two or three flute, high helix endmill and use a .010-.015" per tooth feed
[23:47:24] <toastydeath> dial your spindle speed up and down to hit that comfortably
[23:47:47] <toastydeath> if you're doing a tiny endmill obviously .010 is too much, but for anything over a half inch it should be fine
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[23:48:03] <ReadError> 1/8" ;/
[23:48:29] <toastydeath> lol
[23:48:53] <toastydeath> are you cutting grooves into it or something
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[23:50:37] <toastydeath> with a 1/8th endmill you are really going to top out at like .003 per tooth or something
[23:51:04] <ReadError> seems to be going good so far
[23:51:10] <ReadError> lets see if it stays this way
[23:51:28] <toastydeath> it's difficult to have a problem cutting hdpe
[23:51:42] <ReadError> its actually cutting really nice
[23:51:46] <ReadError> using my aluminum toolpath
[23:51:53] <ReadError> just upped the feedrate in emc
[23:52:02] <toastydeath> like, pretty much ANYTHING you do will work
[23:52:37] <ReadError> this thing is zooming
[23:52:42] <ReadError> i dont think i ever cut this fast
[23:52:51] <toastydeath> there is no rpm limit on hdpe
[23:53:01] <ReadError> endmills hold up pretty good?
[23:53:02] <toastydeath> you're only limited by your feed per tooth and machine ability
[23:53:08] <toastydeath> endmills hold up nearly indefinitely
[23:53:11] <ReadError> i ordered some UHMW poly
[23:53:13] <ReadError> ;)
[23:53:17] <ReadError> thats good to hear
[23:53:19] <toastydeath> if they're carbide, it will last for weeks
[23:53:29] <toastydeath> of constant, 24/7 cutting
[23:53:31] <ReadError> ive been destroying them with CF/G10
[23:53:38] <toastydeath> ?
[23:54:03] <toastydeath> cutting carbon fiber?
[23:54:05] <ReadError> carbonfiber, aka endmill killer
[23:54:06] <ReadError> yea
[23:54:19] <toastydeath> look for carbide endmills with a ZrN coating
[23:54:21] <ReadError> i got it all going into my shopvac w/ hepa
[23:54:32] <ReadError> so i dont think it will damage the ways or my lungs heh
[23:54:38] <ReadError> well not too bad atleast
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[23:56:13] <ReadError> yea im kinda torn
[23:56:23] <ReadError> i can use $3 on some i can toss
[23:56:26] <ReadError> or spend more and hope it last
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