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[00:02:19] <bpuk> so, apart from the washing machine motor, what's the next crazy plan?
[00:03:13] <andypugh> Maybe atually starting on the clock which is why I got the first lathe?
[00:03:23] <andypugh> Three years ago.
[00:04:05] <bpuk> heh :D
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[02:12:09] <MattyMatt> tandoori -> giant sapphire sheets
http://www.opticalwindows.co.uk/catalogue//SAPPHIRE_WINDOWS_AND_PLATES.aspx
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[02:15:31] <Valen> andypugh: what clock you makin?
[02:15:42] <Valen> also MattyMatt thats where i think i was going to get my saphire from
[02:15:45] <andypugh> mechanical/digital
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[02:18:04] <MattyMatt> 100mm max face size if you want a sapphire watchglass :)
[02:18:56] <MattyMatt> that's overkill for a clock on the mantelpiece tho, unless you party hard
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[02:25:00] <tandoori> MattyMatt: man you are awesome
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[03:01:57] <andypugh> OK, time to go to the airport. Back in a week. Have fun
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[03:22:21] <ReadError> sup tjb1
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[03:32:07] <tjb1> xbox smart glass is awesome
[03:32:13] <tjb1> for android
[03:32:47] <ReadError> i need to get a nice shopvac
[03:32:55] <ReadError> one that oil and crap wont destroy the filter
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[03:59:34] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[03:59:42] <r00t4rd3d> i make my filters out of old t shirts
[04:00:29] <r00t4rd3d> i think i got an old pillow case on there now
[04:00:55] <ReadError> oh nice
[04:00:59] <ReadError> hey so
[04:01:13] <ReadError> if i get my backlash compensation under no load
[04:01:25] <ReadError> how do i determine what it would be under a cutting load
[04:01:52] <r00t4rd3d> i never did backlash compensation
[04:02:58] <r00t4rd3d> and my machine is money accurate
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[04:03:58] <r00t4rd3d> at least cutting wood
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[04:04:38] <r00t4rd3d> Im redoing my zaxis now
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[04:08:41] <ReadError> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25091878/Photo%20Jan%2012%2C%2011%2005%2017%20PM.jpg
[04:08:53] <ReadError> my tripod vacuum system is working ;)
[04:09:07] <ReadError> should i save this stuff to cast later
[04:09:11] <ReadError> or is it too impure
[04:09:38] <r00t4rd3d> i would save it and then scrap it
[04:09:45] <r00t4rd3d> fill a garbage can
[04:09:49] <ReadError> lol
[04:09:59] <ReadError> well i got a bunch of other aluminum too
[04:10:04] <ReadError> i figured it would be a fun project
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[04:18:08] <tjtr33> i wrote custom M110 to do this 'halcmd sets onval $1'. 'onval' happens to be an S32.
[04:18:15] <tjtr33> When I exec M110 P123, I get "<commandline>:0: value '123.000000' invalid for S32"
[04:18:16] <tjtr33> Is the some bash magic to make halcmd receive an integer value?
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[04:33:38] <kwallace> tjtr33: Just a shot in the dark here, but could it help to run the bash float through CONV_S32_FLOAT before connecting it to onval?
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/man/man9/conv_s32_float.9.html
[04:34:33] <kwallace> Oops
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/man/man9/conv_float_s32.9.html
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[04:36:48] <tjtr33> kwallace, i just found out my scripts with #!/bin.sh didja know that thes ubuntoids made 'dash' the shell? still shocked ! yes i can add conv comps, thanks
[04:37:28] <dgarr> tjtr33: f=123.456; echo ${f%%.*}
[04:39:36] <tjtr33> and if it was passed to the script as $1 , then f=$1; halcmd sets onval 'echo ${f%%.*}' ?
[04:39:44] <tjtr33> btw thx for the idea
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[04:46:08] <tjtr33> dgarr, you absolutely right :) wheni finally figgered it out & returned here , you gave me the answer
[04:46:14] <tjtr33> halcmd sets onval ${f%%.*}
[04:47:01] <dgarr> or even simpler halcmd sets onval ${1%%.*} (if $1 is the right one)
[04:47:29] <tjtr33> thx! ( ya know the web is FULL of 'you cant do that' on this subject ) , oh! even cooler
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[05:36:02] <tjtr33> dgarr,
http://videobin.org/+6ag/724.html its .ogg encoded rt clk to view fullscreen
[05:37:26] <JesusAlos> hi. I'm looking for a tutorial to install Heekscnc in ubuntu
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[05:45:26] <tjtr33> JesusAlos, did you see
https://github.com/Heeks ? I think the latest versions of Heeks are for Windows . I did build it on 10.04, including the CNC extensions.
[05:51:21] <tjtr33> iirc i uploaded a deb to .... not sure this is where, it was one of the devs back in Apt360 days.... i found something here
https://m21.hyte.de/blog/heekscad%200.14.1
[05:53:45] <tjtr33> hey,its in synaptic,for 10.04 anyways
[05:54:41] <tjtr33> gnite all
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[07:01:27] <JesusAlos> hi
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[07:08:30] <JesusAlos> I have a problem execution installation heekscad
[07:08:41] <JesusAlos> in linix 10.04
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[07:39:23] <JesusAlos_> hi
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[08:08:52] <devilindisguise> hello!
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[08:25:38] <DJ9DJ> moin
[08:26:00] <devilindisguise> hi DJ9DJ
[08:26:25] <DJ9DJ> hi there
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[09:05:03] <IchGuckLive> morning from Germany
[09:05:55] <IchGuckLive> what is the best halpin to get the actuall position foem the coordinate system we are on (G94)
[09:06:13] <IchGuckLive> from B)
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[09:34:53] <JesusAlos_> IchGuckLive: I try intall Heekscad in ubuntu 10.04
[09:35:13] <JesusAlos_> but can't execute. have problem execution
[09:35:33] <IchGuckLive> im on your hal right know
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[10:21:10] <JesusAlos_> Cant run the last livecd linux cnc in 32 and 64 bits computer?
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[11:07:30] <bedah> gmorning
[11:10:51] <devilindisguise> well
[11:11:10] <devilindisguise> is there a mirror of jeff epplers blog?
[11:11:14] <devilindisguise> somewhere?
[11:11:34] <bedah> waybackmachine?
[11:12:07] <bedah> http://archive.org/web/web.php try it
[11:12:18] <devilindisguise> bedah: thought about it, but the archive doesnt preserve code. or does it? i take a look
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[11:14:45] <devilindisguise> bedah: yes! it does archive pde's too :)
[11:14:53] <devilindisguise> http://web.archive.org/web/20120311033927/http://media.unpythonic.net/emergent-files/01198594294/halintf.pde
[11:14:56] <devilindisguise> :)
[11:15:35] <devilindisguise> and of course the more interesting:
http://web.archive.org/web/20120311033907/http://media.unpythonic.net/emergent-files/01198594294/arduino.py
[11:16:23] <bedah> fine fine :)
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[11:32:02] <devilindisguise> ok, i tried to run the linuxcnc 2.5.1 sim within a install of 10.04 based linuxcnc and i get a USRMOT: ERROR: command timeout
[11:32:11] <devilindisguise> within qemu
[11:34:01] <devilindisguise> ok, had to do with she sample configs
[11:34:15] <devilindisguise> seems to work :)
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[12:33:16] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[12:34:05] <IchGuckLive> does the hal know the point where to go
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[15:42:20] <tjtr33> mhaberler, i guess that m250.ngc is part of a multi-file example, is that yours? Where is 'top' file, so i can study?
[15:42:41] <mhaberler> what is a m250.ngc file=
[15:42:47] <mhaberler> ?
[15:43:21] <tjtr33> in the /nc_files dir, i thought it was yours, seems to have a way to pass many parms to a custom mcode, not just P Q
[15:43:42] <tjtr33> sorry, i dont know who authored it
[15:43:42] <IchGuckLive> call
[15:43:56] <IchGuckLive> tjtr33: call takes 30 parameters
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[15:44:52] <tjtr33> argc = 30? didnt know that, thx
[15:45:23] <IchGuckLive> #1 to #20
[15:45:28] <IchGuckLive> #30
[15:45:53] <IchGuckLive> i use this on plasma for patttern
[15:46:04] <mrsun> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/OzRinger/6%20inch%20vice/vicealignment014Custom-1.jpg hmm is that camelback made out of aluminium ?
[15:46:40] <mrsun> looks like it on the casting :P
[15:47:29] <IchGuckLive> big casing
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[15:49:26] <archivist> or just been sand/bead blasted
[15:49:39] <mrsun> http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y373/dreeewman/cnc%20mill/001-2.jpg omg! =) i love that machine*!
[15:49:48] <mrsun> i just fell in love ... =)
[15:50:21] <archivist> it's only little :)
[15:50:27] <mrsun> yes! =) its cute!
[15:51:33] <archivist> is he making it from scratch or modding something
[15:52:04] <mrsun> dont know realy, it was slapped in a thread about dovetail masters
[15:52:14] <AR__> i've spent over $500 on hardware parts for a new machine in the last 3 weeks.....................................................................
[15:52:22] <AR__> and it is still in pieces
[15:52:27] <mrsun> looks like the top part has been replaced by something homemade atleast
[15:52:29] <mrsun> the spindle
[15:52:29] <AR__> dont have a frame yet
[15:52:34] <AR__> dont have spindle yet
[15:52:36] <AR__> holy fffff
[15:52:58] <mrsun> ...
[15:53:02] <mrsun> $500 isnt that much
[15:53:03] <mrsun> :P
[15:53:12] <AR__> relatively
[15:53:23] <mrsun> just the computer that runs my mini mill has parts for about $1000
[15:53:26] <AR__> but just spending $500 on 'something'
[15:53:29] <archivist> mrsun, anyway that was big
http://www.archivist.info/cnc/works2008/P1010217.JPG
[15:53:38] <AR__> something that isnt functional yet
[15:53:40] <AR__> lol
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[15:53:51] <mrsun> archivist, maw =)
[15:55:00] <archivist> mrsun, but here is one of a similar size
http://www.archivist.info/cnc/works2008/P1010206.JPG
[15:55:23] <mrsun> so cute little things =)
[15:56:53] <mrsun> these rails that is often used in machiens today, with bearing blocks, how is the stiffness in those compared to a dovetail or a box thingie? :)
[15:57:31] <tjtr33> wow, i got the 1st one in the basement, its a hardinge built for the navy, used on board, but the idea of replacing the horz boring part with the mill head is sweet
[15:58:43] <archivist> mrsun, depends on what they are bolted too
[15:58:56] <mrsun> ahh true
[15:59:05] <mrsun> but with a cast iron base, just remove the dovetails and slap rails on it insted
[15:59:30] <mrsun> http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00qvrEkCAIZBba/Linear-Rail-System-SBG-Series-.jpg its those thingies im talking about =)
[16:00:05] <archivist> I slapped them on my lathe base when it became the column for the mill
[16:02:05] <tjtr33> in taiwan, the rails were butted against an edge, maybe 1mm hi, then taper head screws along outside of rail squeezed rail against precision edge, and thats how it was 'straight'
[16:02:10] <mrsun> isnt that type of rails pretty much standard in cnc machines these days?
[16:02:40] <archivist> mrsun, I think it also depends on how many carriages you have per rail
[16:02:52] <tjtr33> yeh, its a lot cheaper, and pretty accurate
[16:03:48] <archivist> I got a pair off ebay with 6 on each rail, which will be used on the next version of the mill
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[16:05:13] <IchGuckLive> tjtr33: mrsun there are more cheeper ones
[16:05:46] <tjtr33> i used star (DE) and hiwin(TW)
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[16:20:50] <mrsun> you all know your materials, if i have a piece of cast iron, then cut it .. do i need to reaneal it after to release tensions etc in the piece? :)
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[16:24:11] <IchGuckLive> iron does not neet reaneal Stal is different O.O
[16:24:57] <archivist> mrsun, for best, rest cast iron for a year out doors before use
[16:27:25] <archivist> company my dad worked for left stuff out for a long while before they machined for use in large engines
[16:28:56] <tjtr33> he did nc it
http://s1031.beta.photobucket.com/user/dreeewman/media/cnc%20mill/003-2.jpg.html
[16:29:50] <tjtr33> yeah, begin apprenticeship, bury angle plate, finish apprenticeship, grind plate
[16:34:22] <tjtr33> and he put turcite? on the ways
http://s1031.beta.photobucket.com/user/dreeewman/media/cnc%20mill/DSCN2337.jpg.html
[16:36:11] <mrsun> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8NqeD73ZZ4&list=UU4h0VCL37WHGGzp8gwY1fow&index=4
[16:36:52] <JT-Shop> anyone seen my solder sucker?
[16:37:25] <archivist> where you left it!
[16:39:11] <jthornton> should be down here IIRC
[16:44:38] <jthornton> underneath a box in the last place I looked
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[16:56:10] <archivist> I spent 3/4 of an hour searching for a tap I had got in specially on thursday, was just carefully put in a draw...the wrong one
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[18:44:36] <mrsun> hmm touching freezing metal was a stupid mistake :/
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[19:07:19] <IchGuckLive> after yesterday posting maraton ok it wars suturday today its come here
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[19:14:43] <gene__> Hi guys, where can I get that Rockhopper Web Server from?
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[19:16:25] <gene__> Ah, found it, near the bottom of the wiki page
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[19:33:31] <gene__> How is the best way to troubleshoot rockhopper? It is acting like it has not found the .ini file, but is not complaining either
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[19:39:11] <cncbasher> gene__:python ./LinuxCNCWebSktSvr.py /home/david/emc2-dev/configs/sim/axis/axis.ini
[19:39:25] <cncbasher> thats my start script line
[19:39:45] <cncbasher> it should pop up in terminal saying rochopper is running
[19:39:59] <gene__> I am getting the linuxcnc configuration page at either FQDN:8000/ or localhost:8000/, saying it is ready to load configuration
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[19:40:28] <cncbasher> ok
[19:41:01] <cncbasher> give me a min
[19:41:14] <cncbasher> need to boot spare pc
[19:41:15] <gene__> it was launched as shown in the instructions, with the path argument of /home/gene/linuxcnc/configs/my-lathe/my-mathe.ini (in think)
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[19:42:51] <gene__> Ahh, got it, I left out a directory level :(
[19:43:03] <cncbasher> arh great
[19:43:16] <cncbasher> i'm just looking at it too
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[19:45:57] <gene__> everything now works except the graph, its a blank screen, do I need to reboot to bring in some stuff, or run ldconfig?
[19:46:13] <cncbasher> try a reboot
[19:50:34] <gene__> ldconfig can't find a trace of grphviz
[19:51:09] <cncbasher> i had to load in graphwiz-dev
[19:51:13] <gene__> ldconfig can't find a trace of graphviz
[19:51:56] <cncbasher> also pygraphwiz-1.1
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[19:55:58] <cncbasher> http://graphviz.org/Download..php
[19:56:42] <cncbasher> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pygraphviz
[19:57:49] <gene__> I did that, rockhopper starts and shows everything but the gfx
[19:59:15] <gene__> what starts the python-graphviz stuff?
[20:00:40] <cncbasher> i'm thinking back too when i installed , should have made notes .. i ran the pygraph examples from terminal
[20:01:17] <cncbasher> then i noticed an error pointing me to install graphwiz-dev
[20:01:35] <cncbasher> all all worked from that point
[20:02:56] <gene__> Ahh, I'll check that out
[20:04:13] <gene__> installing
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[20:04:23] <cncbasher> fingers crossed
[20:05:15] <gene__> no good, need another reboot?
[20:07:10] <gene__> I noticed that any time I change tabs, it reverts back to custom.hal which is an effectively empty file, and that file would be a blank screen
[20:08:14] <cncbasher> are you using run in place or installed lcnc
[20:08:43] <gene__> installed, but it is notrunning atm
[20:09:03] <cncbasher> ok
[20:09:51] <gene__> I'm going to take that reference to the unused custom.hal file out of the ini & reload it
[20:12:38] <gene__> didn't help either
[20:13:37] <gene__> major catastrophe, coffee cup empty, brb
[20:15:32] <gene__> fixed
[20:15:45] <gene__> Now what?
[20:18:43] <cncbasher> i knew it was too good to be true , now i dont get the graphs
[20:20:34] <gene__> cncbasher: that link above isn't the same as the apt-get install on that web page, do I need to do your version too? Some #$%*&% update broke us?
[20:58:45] <Jymmm> http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2000862202001/
[21:03:11] <Jymmm> phuking guberment
[21:07:53] <ReadError> holy cow
[21:08:02] <ReadError> anyone see this show bering sea gold?
[21:08:20] <Jymmm> Just a big drama fest
[21:08:34] <ReadError> this guy in the last episode
[21:08:36] <ReadError> what a nutjob
[21:08:42] <Jymmm> like I said
[21:08:53] <ReadError> noone can be THAT off
[21:08:55] <ReadError> i think its fake
[21:09:43] <Jymmm> I watched like one episode when it first came on
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[21:23:52] <Tom_itx> a bit hyper?
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[21:55:17] <MercuryRising> im guessing this isn't related directly to linuxcnc: but midway into a job, the graphics driver freaked out and froze, switching to another tty gives me output similar to this:
[21:55:19] <MercuryRising> [ 817.#####] [drm:radeon_ib_schedule] *ERROR* radeon: couldn't schedule IB(0)
[21:55:21] <MercuryRising> [ 817.#####] [drm:radeon_cs_ioctl] *ERROR* Failed to schedule IB !
[22:01:31] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[22:57:42] <tandoori> erm, pardon my ignorance...but what sort of works can i expect to create with a 4 axis like this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Low-price-high-quality-3020-4-axis-mini-pcb-cnc-milling-machine/612311017.html
[22:58:43] <ReadError> a guy, scribblej got one from china like that
[22:58:46] <ReadError> bigger though
[22:59:04] <tandoori> eh? I should get larger?
[22:59:30] <ReadError> 1.7k is a bit high for that i think
[22:59:35] <tandoori> what kind of mill is displayed in this picture:
http://www.rolanddga.com/products/milling/mdx540/
[23:00:08] <tandoori> i suck at terminology
[23:00:31] <ReadError> not sure, rotary mill?
[23:00:51] <tandoori> is that some kind of add on? or is it designed that way?
[23:01:14] <ReadError> that one appears to be designed that way
[23:01:22] <tandoori> ah
[23:01:23] <ReadError> but you can add a 4th axis to pretty much any mill
[23:03:22] <tandoori> i mainly want a mill for fine pcb work, but I would like to design works like that...maybe learn to macine parts for a car or something such as a solid diff count for a car
[23:04:32] <ReadError> well if you wanted to do that, you should get a mill instead of a router
[23:04:55] <tandoori> youre speaking to a greenie here
[23:04:57] <tandoori> lol
[23:06:34] <ReadError> im a noob myself, probably not in a position to advise
[23:06:41] <ReadError> might want to wait on an old head to come around
[23:09:36] <tandoori> aye
[23:11:48] <ReadError> give it 30 mins someone will pop up
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[23:24:24] <Valen> tandoori: those things generally sell for $400
[23:25:00] <ReadError> i think scribble got his huge one for 1.7k
[23:25:07] <tandoori> huh
[23:25:19] <tandoori> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/4-Axis-CNC-3020Z-DQ-ROUTER-ENGRAVER-DRILLING-MILLING-MACHINE-CNC-ROUTER-upgrade-from-CNC-3020T/664780927.html
[23:25:25] <tandoori> how about that one?
[23:25:28] <was> sind auch deutsche
[23:25:34] <ReadError> that thing is tiny tandoori
[23:25:35] <was> hier
[23:25:38] <ReadError> are you in america?
[23:25:40] <tandoori> looks like the 4th axis is detachable?
[23:25:54] <tandoori> ReadError: aye, sure am
[23:26:11] <ReadError> look into the Taig
[23:26:18] <ReadError> i, and several others here have them
[23:26:25] <ReadError> ive done PCB work on it just fine
[23:26:58] <ReadError> http://deepgroove1.com/cncmill.htm
[23:27:21] <Valen> what do you want to actually do tandoori?
[23:28:06] <was> is some body from german
[23:29:53] <tandoori> Valen: I would like to primarily mill pcbs with high accuracy. 24mil traces is unacceptable. 12 is aceptable. I also would like to design other items of interest as well closer to 3D ish which is why that 4th axis is so attractive. mostly things cylindrical in shape. maybe mill car parts from solid blocks of metal...
[23:29:56] <tandoori> stuff like that
[23:30:16] <Valen> those things wont do metal
[23:30:30] <tandoori> ah i want one that can do metal!
[23:30:44] <Valen> also why do you want to mill fine PCBs?
[23:31:10] <tandoori> because i am a serious EE enthusist
[23:31:39] <Valen> i mean why milling over etching
[23:32:31] <tandoori> hmm? oh because i have seen the results of work and they are awesome. no need to use chemicals and i want to make the most use of my milling machine
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[23:33:36] <Valen> we milled this
http://www.vapourforge.com/jake/temp/milled-pcb-for-spinzster.jpg
[23:34:35] <tandoori> valen: i have a LOT of plans for that cnc mill. im pretty good with 3d design you see
[23:35:02] <tandoori> Valen: mmm that pic is pretty sweet
[23:35:24] <Valen> its not trivial to get the PCB flat
[23:35:32] <tandoori> i understand
[23:35:41] <tandoori> there are ways to make it flat however
[23:35:57] <Valen> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/general_metal_working_machines/118358-phenolic_basalt_head_our_hm45.html
[23:36:03] <Valen> thats our mill
[23:36:46] <tandoori> i would like to make cylindrical shaped items such as displayed in this picture:
http://www.rolanddga.com/products/milling/mdx540/
[23:36:53] <L84Supper> wow thats been 2 years!
[23:36:55] <tandoori> Valen: very nice mill!
[23:37:06] <L84Supper> Valen: how is it holding up?
[23:37:08] <Valen> not really
[23:37:16] <Valen> L84Supper: which bit?
[23:37:19] <tandoori> i just need help selecting the right mill for me that would be able to do the things that i have mentioned above
[23:37:26] <L84Supper> the epoxy resin
[23:37:28] <Valen> we have replaced the bearings in the spindle a few times
[23:37:31] <Valen> that bits fine
[23:37:43] <tandoori> as i know nothing about cnc mills, this would be my first!
[23:37:43] <L84Supper> seems like you posted that just yesterday
[23:38:15] <Valen> lol that was ages ago L84Supper and the bearings are crap and in a crap mounting
[23:38:31] <Valen> the origional bearings were probably ok, but they were aligned the same way
[23:38:56] <L84Supper> if you need anything from China let me know
[23:39:16] <tandoori> well do any of you lot have suggestions for me? ;-)
[23:39:44] <Valen> I'm concerned about doing steel with our mill tandoori
[23:39:56] <Valen> it has done it, even stainless
[23:40:03] <Valen> but the spindle isn't really up to it
[23:40:04] <tandoori> steel? why not aluminium?
[23:40:11] <Valen> does Al all the time
[23:40:27] <Valen> but steel is harder, i'm giving you an idea of the capabilities
[23:40:51] <tandoori> yeah, if i want my crap done in steel, i can just mill an Al part and recast it
[23:41:03] * tandoori is also a metalsmith
[23:41:06] <tandoori> ;-)
[23:41:17] <tandoori> yes i know, i have too much stuff
[23:41:20] <Valen> cast steel is usually crap in comparison
[23:41:42] <tandoori> orly? not if its done properly
[23:42:07] <Valen> so your saying cast steel is as strong as a part milled from a forged billet?
[23:42:25] <tandoori> i never said that
[23:42:42] <Valen> so its crap in comparison ;-P
[23:42:45] <tandoori> but more about mills!
[23:42:50] * tandoori pokes Valen
[23:43:08] <ReadError> tandoori, check out the taig
[23:43:13] <ReadError> im pretty happy with him
[23:43:15] <ReadError> mine*
[23:43:32] <tandoori> ReadError: can it do the stuff i mentioned?
[23:43:33] <Valen> taig is a good place to start
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[23:48:21] <tandoori> Valen: lacks the 4th axis
[23:48:28] <Valen> so add one
[23:48:35] * tandoori frowns
[23:48:37] <tjb1> About to order a nice 12" caliper…
[23:48:40] <tjb1> There goes a ton of money
[23:50:38] <tandoori> Valen: i dont mind ordering chinese stuff, especially if it comes ready to go
[23:51:05] <Valen> everybody i know who has baught one of those 3040 systems has been screwed over at every stage
[23:51:08] <tjb1> Interesting -
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=327-9548&PMPXNO=22606071&PARTPG=INLMK32 &&&
http://www1.mscdirect.com/cgi/NNSRIT2?PMAKA=84177716&PMPXNO=22339968&cm_re=ItemDetail-_-ResultListing-_-SearchResults
[23:51:15] <ReadError> mitutoyo ?
[23:51:17] <Valen> 1) the mill they get is half the size of the one they order
[23:51:17] <tjb1> Same thing…almost $130 cheaper at enco
[23:51:28] <Valen> 2) the electrics to drive them are undocumented
[23:51:42] <ReadError> shit, almost 500 ?
[23:51:44] <tjb1> Yes ReadError, I buy mitutoyo
[23:51:46] <Valen> 3) when you get it working you realise the included electrics are crap and replace them with geckos
[23:52:02] <AR_> anyone have any idea how this 'spindle' was used?
[23:52:02] <ReadError> that one i posted tandoori
[23:52:03] <AR_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NSK-Barden-Custom-Thru-Hole-Machining-Spindle-Dual-Support-Bearings-Solyndra-/170966251651
[23:52:07] <ReadError> comes with the gecko controller
[23:52:09] <ReadError> its race ready
[23:52:44] <tjb1> Anyone know any other places to buy calipers?
[23:52:57] <tjb1> Ill check Travers but the catalog I have from them it was expensive
[23:54:04] <ReadError> amazon ;)
[23:54:47] <Valen> spendy tjb1, sure they are worth it?
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[23:54:55] <tjb1> Why wouldn't be?
[23:55:02] <tandoori> ReadError: that is even smaller than the chinese made ones
[23:55:18] <Valen> I'd be tempted to get a handful of cheaper ones ;->
[23:55:26] <tjb1> I have a junk one from harbor freight
[23:55:31] <tjb1> The price says it all ;)
[23:55:41] <tjb1> You move it to fast it skips like 6 inche
[23:55:46] <tjb1> You blink and it changes numbers
[23:55:59] <Valen> perhaps that one is too cheap ;->
[23:56:10] <ReadError> tjb1, i got a set of 30$ ones from amazon
[23:56:13] <ReadError> and they work awesome
[23:56:32] <tjb1> You cant talk me out of mitutoyo :P
[23:56:32] <ReadError> im rough on stuff
[23:56:37] <ReadError> yea i want a pair
[23:56:41] <ReadError> but not the 500$ ones ;)
[23:56:42] <tjb1> I just wanted to know if there was another place I could price check
[23:56:52] <Valen> google shopping?
[23:57:26] <ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Mitutoyo-ABSOLUTE-500-196-20-Stainless-Resolution/dp/B001C0ZPNO/
[23:57:35] <ReadError> probably get those eventually
[23:57:47] <ReadError> tandoori, how can you compare
[23:57:50] <ReadError> its a mill vs. router
[23:58:09] <tjb1> Its only $40 more for an ip67 version
[23:58:49] <ReadError> ip67 ?
[23:59:02] <tjb1> waterproof
[23:59:03] <ReadError> http://www.amazon.com/Carrera-Precision-CP9806-TF-Electronic-Fractional/dp/B003119EDE/ref=pd_sbs_indust_2
[23:59:07] <ReadError> those are what i got now
[23:59:08] <ReadError> cheap
[23:59:12] <ReadError> but work pretty good
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[23:59:26] <tjb1> You know im buying 12" right?
[23:59:59] <ReadError> yea
