#linuxcnc | Logs for 2012-09-02

[00:07:59] <Aero-Tec> looks cool
[00:08:10] <Aero-Tec> there is a you tube vid for it
[00:08:25] <jthornton> I do 90% of my lathe work using ngcgui
[00:08:39] <Aero-Tec> but no audio, would have been nice to have some talking and explaining going on
[00:09:01] <Aero-Tec> cool
[00:09:58] <jthornton> Aero-Tec, http://gnipsel.com/shop/hardinge/hardinge.xhtml
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[00:15:00] <Aero-Tec> looks like it will work for a mill as well
[00:15:30] <jthornton> yep
[00:15:45] <Aero-Tec> so does it come with linux or do you have to download and install it?
[00:16:01] <Aero-Tec> linux cnc that is
[00:16:37] <Aero-Tec> is there a shot version of linuxcnc?
[00:16:42] <Aero-Tec> like lcnc
[00:16:53] <Aero-Tec> lxcnc
[00:17:28] <Aero-Tec> you guys come up with a cool short version yet?
[00:17:33] <jthornton> ?
[00:17:40] <ReadError> emc ?
[00:17:42] <jthornton> what do you mean by short version
[00:17:47] <Aero-Tec> linuxcnc is a tad long
[00:17:55] <Aero-Tec> lxcnc
[00:18:03] <Aero-Tec> lcnc
[00:18:11] <ReadError> bro its like 4 more characters
[00:18:17] <Aero-Tec> lol
[00:18:18] <ReadError> if you have decent finger skills thats not an issue
[00:18:34] <Aero-Tec> lazy
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[00:18:38] <Aero-Tec> lol
[00:18:39] <jthornton> I can type 80 words a minute with a decent spell checker
[00:19:18] <ReadError> i can do more ;)
[00:19:26] <ReadError> not on this POS keyboard
[00:19:39] <ReadError> but when you work in terminal all day, you can type like a bat out of hell
[00:22:04] <Aero-Tec> lol
[00:22:20] <Aero-Tec> I did terminal for awhile
[00:22:35] <Aero-Tec> some commands are so fast
[00:22:43] <Aero-Tec> you just think it and your done
[00:23:13] <Aero-Tec> that was a long time ago
[00:23:29] <ReadError> yea i dont really even think about it
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[00:23:42] <ReadError> i just kinda think about what im trying to see and my fingers work their magic
[00:23:44] <jdh> what is terminal?
[00:23:58] <ReadError> jdh, i do linux sys admin work
[00:24:01] <ReadError> everything is over ssh
[00:24:13] <ReadError> no newfangled rdp
[00:24:25] <r00t4rd3d> should be called xCNC
[00:24:33] <Aero-Tec> so this ngcgui, is that one of the guis that come with lxcnc?
[00:24:44] <Aero-Tec> cool
[00:24:45] <Aero-Tec> like it
[00:24:52] <ReadError> lol
[00:24:52] <jdh> heh. nee=ver heard anyone say terminal
[00:25:03] <ReadError> Aero-Tec is really trying to coin the phrase lxcnc now
[00:25:10] <Aero-Tec> lol
[00:26:10] <Aero-Tec> whats up readerror?
[00:26:18] <Aero-Tec> you trying to hack me?
[00:26:42] <ReadError> just checking.
[00:26:52] <ReadError> if i was, you would know
[00:27:13] <Aero-Tec> I would know only if you wanted ne to know
[00:27:19] <Aero-Tec> me
[00:27:30] <jdh> because you are really bad at it?
[00:27:49] <ReadError> i would unleash the kraken upon you
[00:27:57] <Aero-Tec> lol
[00:28:09] <Aero-Tec> that would be hard to miss for sure
[00:29:10] <Aero-Tec> I have done linux servers, long ago, then security was very lax
[00:29:25] <Aero-Tec> I am totaly out of the loop now
[00:29:39] <ReadError> r00t4rd3d, I think LC would be easier
[00:30:33] <t12> does anyone make systems that use the dro/linear scale for servo feedback
[00:30:38] <t12> instead of optical encoder
[00:30:47] <t12> or s/make/hack up
[00:30:51] <Aero-Tec> guys can run circles around me and I would not know they were in
[00:31:10] <jdh> t12 glass scsles for feedback (not me)
[00:31:12] <Aero-Tec> some use both
[00:31:39] <t12> would that kinda circumvent really fine backlash tuning
[00:31:49] <t12> seems the readout rates on alot of linear scales are kinda slow
[00:31:54] <Aero-Tec> as far as I know any glass scale can be used instead of a encoder
[00:32:13] <WillenCMD> tomorrow, i might have the first linuxcnc sprinkler system
[00:32:18] <WillenCMD> :)
[00:32:39] <WillenCMD> well not really linuxcnc, more hal but still
[00:32:47] <Aero-Tec> dont you mean xcnc or lxcnc or lcnc?
[00:32:57] <Aero-Tec> lol
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[00:33:31] <WillenCMD> i used gladevcp and hal to make the controller
[00:34:09] <WillenCMD> i have 9 soil moisture sensor's, and 9 soil temperature sensors, and 9 zones
[00:34:20] <WillenCMD> each zone adjust its watering based on the readings
[00:34:45] <Aero-Tec> fancy
[00:35:57] <Aero-Tec> drip or squirt watering?
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[00:36:43] <Jymmm> jthornton: Forgot to mention... Though I really dont' care for hot stuff just becasue it's hot, but I also toss on some red hot links on the grill. Then on the 3rd or 4th day when you've had all the beef you've wanted. Then I do a mixed chopped bbq sandwich with the meat, links, and your favorite bbq sauce all mixed and chopped finely, topped on garlic bread/roll =)
[00:37:45] <Aero-Tec> sounds good
[00:37:58] <Aero-Tec> so can I came over for a bite?
[00:38:00] <Aero-Tec> lol
[00:38:04] <Jymmm> http://www.bbqcolorado.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/hot-links-260x202.jpg
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[00:38:45] <Jymmm> the red hot links put just enough spice into the chopped beef
[00:39:18] <Aero-Tec> I have some hot ones and they are 2 hot by themselves
[00:39:32] <Aero-Tec> unpleasant
[00:40:02] <Aero-Tec> will have to try your trick and see if that makes them eatable
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[00:40:38] <Aero-Tec> back to work
[00:40:48] <Jymmm> Not my idea, stole it from a local bbq shop we go to once in a while
[00:42:26] <Jymmm> Well, dont drown it in bbq like most places to, just enoug to make it moist;
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[00:44:31] <tjb1> One side of the frame done
[00:44:52] <Jymmm> is it sq?
[00:45:16] <tjb1> yep yep
[00:45:21] <Jymmm> woohoo!!!
[00:46:05] <Aero-Tec> so do guys here get other guys here to do some machining and weld/metal work?
[00:46:13] <Aero-Tec> like casting and such?
[00:46:51] <Aero-Tec> I know most have CNC machines, but some will not, the new guys
[00:46:54] <Jymmm> usually not, just some have other interests as wel
[00:48:57] <r00t4rd3d> would be cheaper having someone local do it
[00:49:23] <t12> depends on the weld/knowhow/equipment?
[00:57:28] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/fmMut.jpg
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[01:03:37] <Aero-Tec> ouch
[01:03:48] <Aero-Tec> some fell asleep?
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[01:04:24] <Aero-Tec> or pushed off the road by a semi or large truck?
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[01:05:24] <FinboySlick> Perfect ramp angle at any rate.
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[01:05:47] <Aero-Tec> hell of a ride
[01:06:07] <Aero-Tec> would be cool to have a vid of it happening
[01:06:36] <Aero-Tec> dukes of hazard
[01:10:48] <Jymmm> https://gist.github.com/b7413ae602a25328e6ae
[01:12:41] <FinboySlick> Not so cool that a kid died.
[01:13:05] <Jymmm> nod
[01:14:10] <Aero-Tec> it did not say that someone died when I opened the link
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[01:15:59] <Jymmm> http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article7478233.ab
[01:16:39] <jp_1> flying car prototype?
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[01:17:06] <Jymmm> jp_1: https://gist.github.com/b7413ae602a25328e6ae
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[01:18:46] <jp_1> never good when kids are involved. what a shame.
[01:21:12] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/tGSmZ.jpg
[01:21:35] <r00t4rd3d> What I got burl hunting today.
[01:21:58] <r00t4rd3d> Maple
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[01:30:08] <r00t4rd3d> not sure what i should make out of it. Im thinking a small box.
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[01:36:22] <r00t4rd3d> anyone finish burl before?
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[01:39:20] <Tom_itx> burled walnut
[01:39:25] <Tom_itx> yes
[01:40:45] <r00t4rd3d> what kind of oil did you use?
[01:41:12] <Tom_itx> none i used urethane
[01:41:26] <Tom_itx> use linseed if you want
[01:42:20] <r00t4rd3d> that what i am using
[01:42:42] <r00t4rd3d> most people oil before seal
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[01:58:07] <r00t4rd3d> I need to make a lathe
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[02:04:52] <Tom_itx> ScribbleJ you around?
[02:06:34] <ScribbleJ> Am
[02:07:05] <Tom_itx> are the screws on the rod ends threaded into the joint or pass clear thru it?
[02:07:12] <Tom_itx> on the long side
[02:07:19] <Aero-Tec> what kind and size of lathe will you be making?
[02:07:59] <Tom_itx> ScribbleJ, i'd think some sort of bushing would be in order there
[02:08:01] <ScribbleJ> They pass all the way through, but they should be threaded in, supposedly. I drilled mine out a bit and they passed through a little smoothly, maybe too smoothly.
[02:08:02] <ScribbleJ> Heh
[02:08:21] <Tom_itx> i thought about a roll pin
[02:08:30] <r00t4rd3d> Aero-Tec, ghetto drill style
[02:08:46] <Tom_itx> press fit into the joint but clearanced on the outer part
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[02:08:53] <Aero-Tec> r00t4rd3d: will you be making it from scratch?
[02:09:17] <Aero-Tec> so your turning your mill into a cnc lathe?
[02:09:22] <r00t4rd3d> im gonna put a old drill in a vise
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[02:09:32] <Aero-Tec> ?
[02:09:33] <r00t4rd3d> lathe
[02:09:58] <Aero-Tec> real ghetto
[02:10:08] <r00t4rd3d> dremel lathe is another option
[02:10:17] <Aero-Tec> some make there mill into a lathe and do lathe work on it
[02:10:55] <ScribbleJ> If something's going to be a problem, it's those joints. I wouldn't mind buying something that was made for the purpose.
[02:11:19] <Aero-Tec> r00t4rd3d: what equipment do you have now?
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[02:11:52] <tjb1> Hey r00t!'
[02:12:29] <r00t4rd3d> hi
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[02:12:35] <Tom_itx> ScribbleJ ok, it looks like on his the front one passes thru and the side ones stop in the joint
[02:12:44] <r00t4rd3d> Aero-Tec, cnc router
[02:13:16] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/kgMEk.jpg
[02:13:25] <ScribbleJ> The long one I used M3x16 and the two shot sides I used M3x10
[02:13:30] <ScribbleJ> That all fit just right.
[02:13:40] <tjb1> Look at those 4 ugly wires going to the control box r00t4rd3d, cmon clean that up
[02:13:41] <tjb1> ;)
[02:13:41] <ScribbleJ> And yeah, the side ones stop -- obviously cn't pass through. :)
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[02:13:51] <r00t4rd3d> FU tjb1
[02:14:03] <Tom_L> zlog
[02:14:03] <zlog> Tom_L: Log stored at http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2012-09-01.html
[02:14:04] <tjb1> hahaha
[02:14:30] <Aero-Tec> could use that to make a cnc lathe out of wood, if your router is good enough to cut aluminum you would make a lathe out of it
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[02:15:23] <WillenCMD> i just saw 3d printer for the first time on youtube yesterday
[02:15:35] <WillenCMD> make a working crescent wrench
[02:15:39] <WillenCMD> bad ass
[02:15:48] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[02:15:58] <tjb1> hey r00t
[02:16:00] <r00t4rd3d> ive seen that video
[02:16:03] <tjb1> I want that down to 0 wires
[02:16:37] <WillenCMD> its mind blowing, i still don't know how it comes out moving, and it doesn't adhere the worm to the shaft and so on
[02:16:58] <Aero-Tec> r00t4rd3d: I can see aluminum is a no go. but a small one made from wood would still be a option
[02:17:10] <r00t4rd3d> i can cut metal
[02:17:19] <WillenCMD> root your a popular guy this evening
[02:17:30] <WillenCMD> guy or gal, excuse me for assumin
[02:17:34] <WillenCMD> assuming*
[02:17:41] <tjb1> r00t is an or
[02:17:51] <r00t4rd3d> FU tjb1
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[02:17:53] <Tom_itx> ScribbleJ, what's the block on the backside of the idler_end for? i can't really tell in the pics
[02:17:53] <Tom_itx> ScribbleJ, limit switch?
[02:17:55] <r00t4rd3d> :D
[02:18:07] <tjb1> So you are female tonight? :P
[02:18:12] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[02:18:16] <Aero-Tec> lol
[02:18:21] <tjb1> Did the switch go okay?
[02:18:27] <WillenCMD> 18/f lfm
[02:18:35] <WillenCMD> remember good old aol chatrooms
[02:18:40] <WillenCMD> lol
[02:18:45] <Aero-Tec> so you can cut metal with that?
[02:18:57] <tjb1> I cut metal with my hands...
[02:19:00] <tjb1> and a hacksaw
[02:19:01] <Aero-Tec> must be painfully small cuts
[02:19:09] <WillenCMD> now i chat with a bunch of dudes about machines
[02:19:19] <ScribbleJ> Yeah, that's the idea, Tom_itx .... although I put mine one separate parts.
[02:19:21] <tjb1> im female
[02:19:31] <WillenCMD> well that explains it
[02:19:34] <r00t4rd3d> my machine moves at 12inches per minute. Everything is slow.
[02:19:38] <tjb1> It does doesn't it
[02:19:40] <tjb1> 12 ipm!?
[02:19:48] <tjb1> holy poo
[02:19:50] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[02:19:53] <r00t4rd3d> tb6560
[02:19:54] <tjb1> thats blazing fast
[02:19:58] <WillenCMD> thats not slow, if you only have a half inch of travel
[02:20:03] <WillenCMD> its all relative
[02:20:13] <r00t4rd3d> its fast enough for me atm
[02:20:14] <tjb1> whats your rapid?
[02:20:15] <tjb1> 16 ipm?
[02:20:27] <r00t4rd3d> rapid?
[02:20:34] <r00t4rd3d> i dont know
[02:20:38] <Aero-Tec> G0 moves
[02:20:39] <tjb1> so it takes a minute to move the head from one end to the other
[02:20:40] <tjb1> lol
[02:20:57] <r00t4rd3d> is rapid when i push shift?
[02:21:02] <tjb1> must be because of all those unsightly wires coming out of the control box
[02:21:09] <WillenCMD> lol
[02:21:12] <tjb1> ;)
[02:21:25] <Aero-Tec> so is root a guy?
[02:21:29] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[02:21:31] <WillenCMD> lol
[02:21:33] <r00t4rd3d> wanna see my boobs?
[02:21:35] <ScribbleJ> My machine moves at 472 inches per minute.
[02:21:45] <WillenCMD> not bad
[02:21:50] <r00t4rd3d> i just need a better controller
[02:21:52] <Aero-Tec> man boobs
[02:22:00] <WillenCMD> mine moves 1200 ipm
[02:22:04] <WillenCMD> :)
[02:22:07] <r00t4rd3d> buy me a gecko
[02:22:10] <ScribbleJ> OK then!
[02:22:13] <r00t4rd3d> ok!
[02:22:23] <ScribbleJ> Not you. Sheesh.
[02:22:25] <tjb1> Who has a G540 in here?
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[02:22:36] <WillenCMD> 6000 rpms * .19685
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[02:23:10] <r00t4rd3d> my machine moves at 12ipm, my router is 26,000rpm
[02:23:12] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[02:23:27] <WillenCMD> no thats the servo motor rpm
[02:23:34] <r00t4rd3d> oh
[02:23:41] <WillenCMD> and the leadscrew tpr
[02:23:43] <tjb1> dwp611 ;)
[02:23:52] <tjb1> I'm gonna wire ddm my mount r00t
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[02:23:55] <tjb1> edm...
[02:24:07] <r00t4rd3d> what?
[02:24:13] <WillenCMD> 12 ipm i would literally go crazy
[02:24:13] <r00t4rd3d> edm wire?
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[02:24:19] <tjb1> wire edm the mount for my dwp611
[02:24:36] <r00t4rd3d> i think i am going to need a picture
[02:24:43] <WillenCMD> you can hand crank faster than that, might as well have it pause on rapids and crank it over there
[02:25:06] <tjb1> http://industrialtool.net/images/Workpiece.jpg
[02:25:34] <tjb1> school has 5 wire edms :D
[02:25:46] <tjb1> I know at least one of them has auto threading
[02:26:26] <Aero-Tec> tjb1: sure you a gal?
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[02:26:43] <Aero-Tec> your way to into this for any gay I know
[02:26:45] <tjb1> im a dude
[02:26:46] <r00t4rd3d> so it uses wire to cut?
[02:26:55] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-Router-Machine-Accessory-CNC-4th-Axis-Rotary-Chunk-Rotational-Tail-Stock-/390439127827
[02:26:56] <tjb1> yes
[02:27:04] <r00t4rd3d> i need to make something like that
[02:27:04] <tjb1> .0098" thick wire
[02:28:15] <Aero-Tec> or you could just buy that one
[02:28:18] <tjb1> They are painfully slow r00t
[02:28:23] <tjb1> but they have there place
[02:28:33] <tjb1> like when I'm too lazy to do 30 operations to make a mount for a g540
[02:28:35] <tjb1> *dwp611
[02:29:18] <tjb1> grab appropriate thickness material, draw in master cam, cut out, drill and tap
[02:30:07] <Aero-Tec> water jet it, much quicker
[02:30:12] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: I made this on a wire edm - http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/172236_1800433046579_7756991_o.jpg
[02:30:37] <tjb1> and how much does a water jet cost that can cut 6" thick tool steel? :P
[02:31:38] <Aero-Tec> they are not cheap
[02:33:56] <Aero-Tec> but making parts on a wire edm is not cheap or fast ether
[02:34:12] <tjb1> it is when its on the schools tab
[02:34:19] <Aero-Tec> a water jet would make that part in no time
[02:36:34] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/completed-homemade-lathe-t18868.html
[02:36:39] <r00t4rd3d> fan motor lathe
[02:37:34] <tjb1> thats ghetto root
[02:39:55] <r00t4rd3d> i only want to screw around with one
[02:40:03] <r00t4rd3d> make a pipe or a stupid pen
[02:40:12] <WillenCMD> whats the wd-40 for its all wood
[02:40:16] <WillenCMD> lol
[02:40:25] <r00t4rd3d> his breath probably
[02:40:53] <r00t4rd3d> or to oil his one good tooth
[02:41:21] <r00t4rd3d> tool holder with no tools in it
[02:42:02] <tjb1> how the hell do you turn off spelling correct in colloquy?
[02:42:11] <r00t4rd3d> alt f4
[02:43:17] <tjb1> that doesn't work on a mac ;)
[02:43:29] <tjb1> btw colloquy is a mac only program
[02:43:50] <r00t4rd3d> u sure about that?
[02:44:12] <tjb1> yes
[02:44:15] <tjb1> because iPhone and such
[02:44:53] <r00t4rd3d> i used bitchx on my iphone
[02:45:12] <tjb1> lol
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[02:48:10] <r00t4rd3d> but dont like apple so i dont use the iphone no more
[02:48:23] <r00t4rd3d> to fucking expensive anyway
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[02:48:57] <tjb1> you mad bro?
[02:49:03] <r00t4rd3d> not at all
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[02:49:29] <tjb1> yeah you mad
[02:50:48] <Jymmm> CMD+Q
[02:50:50] <WillenCMD> you know whats good about a mac
[02:50:56] <r00t4rd3d> nothing?
[02:50:58] <WillenCMD> absolutely nothing
[02:51:02] <WillenCMD> :)
[02:51:09] <tjb1> ;)
[02:51:28] <tjb1> Ye all mad
[02:51:29] <WillenCMD> tj your router was cheaper than your mac
[02:51:33] <WillenCMD> thats sad
[02:51:40] <tjb1> Aye not really :P
[02:51:58] <WillenCMD> hey when you get it done, lets see how well it cuts through the apple
[02:52:02] <r00t4rd3d> they are limited as hell and more expensive then everything else
[02:52:08] <r00t4rd3d> i dont get it
[02:52:19] <tjb1> You buy the wrong ones
[02:52:28] <WillenCMD> although the macontosh voice from blank check was prettybad ass
[02:52:41] <WillenCMD> come on who didn't use that in elementry school
[02:53:02] <WillenCMD> my name is Macontosh
[02:53:09] <tjb1> guess only you
[02:53:30] <WillenCMD> my wife really wants an iphone
[02:53:41] <r00t4rd3d> when i was in school they only computers we had were in calculator form
[02:53:41] <tjb1> sell you mine
[02:53:50] <WillenCMD> and i refuse to let her get one, all i do is say if you get one i won't fix it when you mess it up
[02:54:00] <tjb1> they don't mess up
[02:54:01] <tjb1> ;)
[02:54:03] <WillenCMD> sure
[02:54:29] <WillenCMD> i like things that are cheap or free
[02:54:32] <r00t4rd3d> you can easily restore them
[02:54:41] <r00t4rd3d> WillenCMD, jailbreak
[02:54:44] <r00t4rd3d> free apps
[02:54:49] <WillenCMD> i know i can, but im talking about my wife
[02:54:59] <WillenCMD> she can't
[02:55:03] <tjb1> jailbreak is stupid easy
[02:55:07] <tjb1> press a button and done
[02:55:07] <r00t4rd3d> in itunes there is a restore button
[02:55:25] <tjb1> my iPhone 4 has been jailbroken since I got it
[02:55:29] <WillenCMD> i guess ill let her get one, and just sign on here when she has questions
[02:55:29] <tjb1> 1.5 years now
[02:55:32] <r00t4rd3d> mine too
[02:55:36] <r00t4rd3d> 5 years
[02:55:46] <tjb1> never a problem except stuff I did
[02:55:46] <r00t4rd3d> back when it was scary to jail break
[02:56:08] <tjb1> I had an iPod touch jailbroken back then :P
[02:56:10] <tjb1> it was scary
[02:56:32] <tjb1> Will, buy my iPhone 4
[02:56:58] <WillenCMD> i will give it to apple though, they have it figured out
[02:57:24] <tjb1> $150 :P
[02:57:34] <WillenCMD> just add a number to the end and change a few small things, add a voice assist and sell it.
[02:57:55] <tjb1> gotta be on the right 2 year cycle man
[02:57:59] <WillenCMD> they make a fortune
[02:58:02] <tjb1> the next iPhone is a new one
[02:58:08] <tjb1> not the iPhone 4 with a new sticker
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[02:58:28] <WillenCMD> im working on telepathy its the thing of the future
[02:58:34] <tjb1> my 2 year contract falls in line with major re-designs by apple
[02:58:52] <r00t4rd3d> i had my iphone on prepaid from att for awhile
[02:58:58] <WillenCMD> no contracts no bills
[02:59:20] <WillenCMD> actually i wish i didn't have a cell phone
[02:59:26] <r00t4rd3d> smash it
[02:59:35] <WillenCMD> i keep trying to get rid of it, but she won't let me
[02:59:44] <r00t4rd3d> get rid of her too
[02:59:50] <tjb1> someone is whipped :P
[02:59:52] <WillenCMD> lol
[03:00:02] <WillenCMD> yeah, i lost my man card 4 years ago
[03:00:20] <WillenCMD> now i drink fruity drinks and cry during chick flix
[03:00:33] <tjb1> I bet you kiss prostitute on the lips
[03:00:46] <r00t4rd3d> you dont?
[03:01:03] <WillenCMD> which lips?
[03:01:10] <tjb1> That would be from american dad
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[03:02:46] <r00t4rd3d> wow i made alot of icons for the iphone
[03:03:01] <r00t4rd3d> reading my profile on modmyi
[03:03:04] <WillenCMD> but seriously back on my soap box, i can't stand the fact that everyone can get ahold of you no matter what. You can't deny it either, they say why didn't you call... "i didn't get your call".... "but i left you a voicemail"... "well i didn't get it"... "but i texted you"... "must of not got that either".... "i emailed you after that"... "well shit listen i just don't want to talk to you"
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[03:03:42] <tjb1> throw wheels on that soap box and race it
[03:03:45] <tjb1> its not for standin
[03:03:53] <WillenCMD> before if they left a message on your "machine", you could just say oh the tape was full, or oh it must of gotten erased
[03:04:04] <Tom_itx> aren't we straying a bit off topic here?
[03:04:18] <r00t4rd3d> so what
[03:04:20] <WillenCMD> sorry...
[03:04:30] <Tom_itx> r00t4rd3d i realize you could care less
[03:04:44] <tjb1> lol no one is asking anything about linuxcnc
[03:04:58] <WillenCMD> what is linuxcnc?
[03:05:06] <Tom_itx> so let's fill the logs with crap so when they wake up they'll have plenty to read
[03:05:25] <tjb1> your wish is my command
[03:05:35] <WillenCMD> i have seen other's talking on here about non-linuxcnc based topics
[03:05:51] <r00t4rd3d> WillenCMD, there is no rule to stay on topic
[03:05:57] <r00t4rd3d> no irc rules for here at all
[03:05:58] <Tom_itx> it happens
[03:06:06] <WillenCMD> well damn now i feel bad
[03:06:09] <r00t4rd3d> dont
[03:06:20] <WillenCMD> sorry tom_itx i'll straighten up i swear
[03:06:23] <Tom_itx> r00t4rd3d you're in no position to say that really
[03:06:26] <r00t4rd3d> sometimes people like to try and puff their chest out.
[03:06:35] <r00t4rd3d> you are seeing it now
[03:06:51] <WillenCMD> please don't tell master
[03:07:17] <Tom_itx> a little self discipline and it wouldn't be required
[03:07:31] <WillenCMD> but seriously i'll cut it out, from now on strictly businiess
[03:07:38] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[03:07:41] <r00t4rd3d> pussy
[03:08:24] <tjb1> hey r00t, how did you make linxcnc work with all those wires coming out of your controller
[03:08:28] <tjb1> that must of been hell to set up
[03:08:45] <WillenCMD> those are just for show
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[03:08:57] <WillenCMD> the real magic is what happens inside
[03:09:00] <r00t4rd3d> ill talk about anything but linuxcnc :)
[03:09:08] <r00t4rd3d> i never talk about that
[03:09:09] <tjb1> mach3?
[03:09:16] <WillenCMD> the razor?
[03:09:21] <r00t4rd3d> hardy anyone does
[03:09:54] <tjb1> hey root, need my help to clean up your mess of wiring?
[03:09:58] <WillenCMD> i have helped plenty of people on here, i think if we want to steer off topic for a bit its not a big deal.
[03:11:10] <tjb1> where is the steering wheel?
[03:20:58] <r00t4rd3d> there Tom_itx, happy? Now no one is chatting fucking faggot
[03:21:12] <r00t4rd3d> dont you ever do that shit to me again
[03:22:23] <tjb1> lol
[03:26:07] <Tom_itx> or what?
[03:27:40] <r00t4rd3d> ill guess youll be the first to find out
[03:27:59] * Tom_itx shudders in his boots
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[03:29:13] <tjb1> puss in boots?
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[03:37:01] <Jymmm> jthornton: When you ge tired of the cannon... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gxdRnaelFQ&feature=related
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[03:46:05] <r00t4rd3d> omg off topic? wheres the topic cops now?
[03:46:14] <r00t4rd3d> or does that only pertain to me
[03:52:36] <uw> weoooooo
[03:52:40] <uw> TOPIC COPS HERE
[03:52:45] <uw> HEY WHATS THIS ALL ABOUT?
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[04:35:13] <WillenCMD> anyone have experience with halsampler or halstreamer?
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[12:31:24] <DJ9DJ> re
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[12:50:03] <jthornton> er
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[13:53:26] <WillenCMD> Morning
[13:55:22] <WillenCMD> Or afternoon depending on where you are i guess
[13:56:41] <jthornton> morning
[13:57:04] <jthornton> dang rain killed my internet last night
[13:57:28] <jthornton> ah the fun of having WildBlue satellite internet
[14:00:41] <Tom_itx> jthornton point it at mars and see what it's up to
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[14:01:24] <jthornton> I don't think I want to move it...
[14:01:48] <Tom_itx> those models came in nicely
[14:02:01] <Tom_itx> but not all are good layouts for machining
[14:02:30] <jthornton> cool, I've always said I can design a part in SW that you can't make
[14:02:43] <Tom_itx> they were made to be printed
[14:02:58] <jthornton> 3-D printed?
[14:03:06] <Tom_itx> i thought the idea of printers was to test parts for production :)
[14:03:10] <Tom_itx> yes
[14:11:44] <Tom_itx> it's somewhat interesting comparing the 2 processes though
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[14:14:39] <archivist> mid afternoon coffee break
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[14:18:10] <L84Supper> jthornton, how do you handle downloading ISO's of Linux distros or even LinuxCNC over WildBlue?
[14:18:30] <L84Supper> don't they have a limit of 500MB/day or something similar?
[14:19:06] <jthornton> I don't think it is that low
[14:19:43] <jthornton> the usage meter is broken and they say if you use way way way too much we might throttle you back
[14:20:14] <jthornton> of course bad weather seems to throttle me enough LOL
[14:20:37] <L84Supper> sadly it's the same with ATT DSL
[14:21:02] <L84Supper> even with Comcast cable on real heavy days
[14:21:27] <archivist> I dont have a throttle, they just meter and sand abusive invoices for going over ones limit
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[14:24:36] <L84Supper> http://www.hughesnet.com has the daily bandwidth cap
[14:25:41] <jthornton> they are nasty and mean, my unknowing neighbor got a $350 bill his first month
[14:26:00] <L84Supper> we seem to get throttled by every service, comcast, ATT, Clear etc
[14:26:14] <L84Supper> sometimes for a day sometimes a few days
[14:26:20] <r00t4rd3d> heh, and I get called out for off topic.
[14:26:40] <L84Supper> when trying to download LinuxCNC ISO's
[14:26:43] <L84Supper> :)
[14:27:17] <r00t4rd3d> no worries, that only pertains to me
[14:27:22] <jthornton> LOL
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[14:27:45] <archivist> there are levels and amounts of off topic
[14:27:47] <jthornton> I'm working on a LinuxCNC tutorial
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[14:28:23] <archivist> Im cleaning up the sliding head lath and dreaming of cncing it
[14:28:48] <archivist> found its first restoration date, 1965
[14:29:55] <Tom_itx> ww2 surplus?
[14:30:03] <jthornton> mhaberler seems to be busy today
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[14:31:54] <archivist> Tom_itx, I think it dates from the early 1950's but not sure cannot read the importers/sellers badge where it is at the moment
[14:32:50] <L84Supper> QuickCutCNC.com NEW Interactive Quotes for CNC Machining...... I bet anything submitted will require some "consulting help" from them
[14:34:48] <archivist> hmm expensive but the right manual in the wrong country ebay 170429943375
[14:35:35] <archivist> I wonder if one gets an original or a copy
[14:36:31] <archivist> and neg feedback confirms, copies!
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[15:43:13] <skunkworks__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVdr-WZTcpA
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[15:51:41] <jthornton> very nice
[15:52:19] * jthornton needs a BLDC controller that will do odd things
[15:54:29] <skunkworks__> odd things?
[15:54:56] <Tom_itx> is that plexiglas?
[15:56:16] <Tom_itx> oh i see now :)
[15:56:18] <Tom_itx> nm
[15:56:29] <Tom_itx> the first angle looked transparent
[16:01:30] <jthornton> yea, spin to stall then reverse so many degrees
[16:02:36] <jthornton> then stop
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[16:05:10] <skunkworks__> hal?
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[16:07:56] <jthornton> something smaller like ardunio would be better
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[16:19:55] <Tom_itx> jthornton an xmega would be better suited to do complex pwm etc
[16:21:56] <jthornton> like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYRRcmjVmBg
[16:23:45] <tjb1> Hey jthornton, the square tubing is ASTM A500 Grade B
[16:23:51] <Tom_itx> probably so
[16:23:57] <jthornton> hey
[16:24:08] <Tom_itx> it is a 3.3v chip though
[16:29:38] <Tom_itx> and they're cheap
[16:30:19] <Tom_itx> jthornton, who did that one?
[16:30:48] <skunkworks__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ4kAY96JfE
[16:30:51] <jthornton> dunno just a grroogle search
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[16:50:27] <archivist> skunkworks__, is that guy using the right kind of tap!
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[16:55:32] <skunkworks__> ?
[16:56:53] <archivist> the youtube link you pasted :)
[16:59:41] <skunkworks__> I like the spiral taps - but all have worked ok rigid tapping..
[17:00:25] <archivist> spiral is correct for rigid, his looked a bit like hand taps
[17:02:00] <archivist> I like spiral for hand use too :)
[17:05:28] <skunkworks__> yes
[17:10:10] <ScribbleJ> There are different kinds of taps?
[17:11:57] <syyl_> of course
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[17:12:52] <syyl> for trough-holes, blind holes, that one for machine use, that for synchronous spindles, hand taps, tapping taps
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[17:14:38] <skunkworks__> I have a couple of 10-32 spiral taps.. I guard them with my life. They are awesome for both rigid tapping and hand tapping
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[18:04:40] <archivist> ScribbleJ, once you have used a spiral tap in anger you will never want hand taps again :)
[18:05:06] <ScribbleJ> When I retire hand taps from my collection, will I hire a bugler to play taps for them?
[18:05:29] <archivist> 4 slides freed up on the sliding head \0/
[18:07:04] <JT-Shop> archivist has visions of sugar plumbs and cnc controlled slides in his head now
[18:08:29] <archivist> considering how long it spent in the rain and since last use, it is beginning to slide/move like a very well made lathe
[18:09:40] <archivist> found a brochure on a forum for its later brother http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/bechler-10-lathe-243337/
[18:11:08] <ScribbleJ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWTlSaatOsA&feature=youtu.be
[18:14:10] <JT-Shop> interesting brochure
[18:14:15] <archivist> look at the cycle time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDxvBHXklJo
[18:14:21] * JT-Shop knows how a swiss works now
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[18:20:15] <archivist> gibs are interesting, they taper into the v not along the slide
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[18:42:20] * mrsun is now an owner of a band cold saw =)
[18:42:29] <mrsun> one of those you can tilt up and use as a metal bandsaw =)
[18:54:48] <syyl> one of those chinese ones? :D
[18:54:56] <syyl> most important machine in my shop
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[19:10:58] <syyl> random question: is it possible to add a Gxx code to linuxcnc, that, for example runs the code for a square pocket?
[19:11:16] <syyl> without c-knowledge
[19:13:03] <skunkworks__> o-words?
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[19:17:09] <JT-Shop> syyl: you can in master or just make a subroutine
[19:17:33] <syyl> hmm
[19:17:38] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/ngcgui.html#_db25_example
[19:18:12] <syyl> i wanted to avoid ngcgui ;)
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[19:18:21] <syyl> my goal was just running it in the mdi
[19:18:44] <syyl> type Gxx (position) (size) (depth) etc
[19:19:42] <JT-Shop> o<square> [1][2][3] call
[19:20:03] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/o-code.html#_calling_files
[19:20:18] <JT-Shop> you can pass up to 30 parameters
[19:20:50] <syyl> i think, thats what i wanted :D
[19:20:59] <JT-Shop> there you go
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[19:30:22] <syyl> tank you, JT-Shop
[19:30:30] <syyl> that will work for me \o/
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[19:53:56] <JT-Shop> welcome
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[20:08:51] <r00t4rd3d> I wish someone would hurry up and post No Easy Day ebook
[20:15:52] <L84Supper> "05:00 somewhere in the Indian Ocean. Seal Team 6 was glistening in man dew waiting for orders that would go down in history"
[20:30:35] <JT-Shop> hmmm I've hooked up my X encoder to the 7i77 but I don't see any encoder counts...
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[20:31:34] <micges> got power?
[20:34:14] <alex_joni> got milk
[20:35:26] <JT-Shop> my guess is you actually have to have the wires in the correct places for it to work
[20:35:43] <alex_joni> heh
[20:37:52] <JT-Shop> yep I have confirmed that the wires must be connected to the correct places or you won't see your encoder counts
[20:39:16] <alex_joni> no wireless encoder counts?
[20:42:32] <JT-Shop> no counts without 5v
[20:42:48] <JT-Shop> index works :)
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[20:45:31] <alex_joni> JT-Shop: cool
[20:47:35] <micges> alex_joni: have some new projects near cnc?
[20:48:17] <alex_joni> hmm.. not really
[20:48:33] <alex_joni> mostly bots :)
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[20:57:46] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[20:58:51] <Jymmm> alex_joni: they're all bots in one form or another
[21:03:23] <alex_joni> right
[21:03:58] <alex_joni> now we could digress into a philosophical debate about how they feel and if they are alive
[21:04:41] <Jymmm> No we couldn't =)
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[21:10:43] <Jymmm> alex_joni: At least not on IRC, in a pub sure =)
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[21:15:01] <micges> hmm, beer, I need beer
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[21:30:06] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/WHV2C.jpg
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[23:02:29] * r00t4rd3d twists up a fatty and passes it
[23:03:39] <andypugh> Interesting talk at Geek-camp. A chap has found 10,000 unsecured PLCs connected to the internet.
[23:04:19] <andypugh> (He was/is a researcher in computer security)
[23:04:42] <r00t4rd3d> are any in irans nuke facilities?
[23:04:59] <andypugh> Clearly that came up in conversation.
[23:05:09] <r00t4rd3d> really?
[23:06:09] <andypugh> Stuxnet was really specific though, whereas it spread widely, it only actually did anything bad when controling specific VFDs connected to specific PLCs in a specific IP address range.
[23:07:27] <andypugh> I was also rather impressed by the chap who can make a key for a lock in less than a minute. With the lock in-situ.
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[23:09:16] <andypugh> Here he is in action: http://youtu.be/Bj9KEmLWRek
[23:09:19] <t12> theres amazing stuff sitting on the internet unpassworded
[23:09:26] <t12> lots of NMRs
[23:09:48] <JT-Shop> to answer your question there is no way to filter user names like you suggested
[23:10:35] <andypugh> Pity
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[23:15:47] <JT-Shop> yes
[23:16:04] <andypugh> An interesting point was that MD5 authentication is client-side based. You can see the hash to match in the page source. Googling the hash will frequently return the plaintext.
[23:16:25] <JT-Shop> wild
[23:17:30] <r00t4rd3d> give up some hashes
[23:18:38] <JT-Shop> well X and Y encoders are connected and seem to work in the correct direction :)
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[23:23:37] <t12> andy: context?
[23:28:11] <andypugh> t12: Getting into the web-interface of a SCADA system
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[23:29:53] <t12> its not md5 c&r?
[23:30:15] <t12> oh or you mean
[23:30:18] <t12> its all in js or something
[23:30:25] <t12> both the request and auth
[23:31:12] <andypugh> That is what was said.
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[23:32:53] <t12> heh
[23:35:16] <r00t4rd3d> Pretty sure thats a good felony charge.
[23:36:04] <r00t4rd3d> if you do it, cover your tracks
[23:39:54] <JT-Shop> BP knee mill conversion under way... XYZ encoders hooked up and scaled
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[23:42:02] <JT-Shop> I love questions like this about craigslist items "Whats your bottom dollar on this"
[23:42:26] <JT-Shop> I respond "make me a decent offer"
[23:43:33] <JT-Shop> and you never hear back from them...
[23:45:13] <r00t4rd3d> i like when you get your CL title emailed to you with a ? at the end
[23:45:26] <r00t4rd3d> Custom Wood Signs?
[23:45:48] <JT-Shop> or "is it still for sale?" sdhfslen1234@gmail.com
[23:46:02] <r00t4rd3d> then I reply yeah? and get penis pill emails
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[23:46:31] <JT-Shop> I never reply to emails from craigslist or text messages outside of my area code
[23:46:39] <r00t4rd3d> ive found if the sent from and the reply to address are different, dont bother, spammers.
[23:47:02] <JT-Shop> I do report every email if that does any good
[23:47:42] <JT-Shop> http://semo.craigslist.org/mcy/3215486930.html
[23:48:12] <r00t4rd3d> is that your stuff?
[23:48:27] <JT-Shop> yea, do you like the spammer notice?
[23:48:54] <r00t4rd3d> no i like the honda
[23:49:04] <r00t4rd3d> is that an old XR?
[23:49:29] <r00t4rd3d> ahh XL
[23:49:37] <JT-Shop> the red one yea it is an XL200R]
[23:49:44] <JT-Shop> http://semo.craigslist.org/mcy/3170323830.html
[23:49:52] <JT-Shop> restored to like new
[23:50:12] <r00t4rd3d> wheres those photos?
[23:50:21] <JT-Shop> my garage
[23:50:49] <r00t4rd3d> no i meant the restored ones
[23:51:19] <JT-Shop> only photos are in the ad
[23:51:27] <JT-Shop> dirty it is
[23:51:52] <r00t4rd3d> i love my honda
[23:52:05] <JT-Shop> me too, the blue one
[23:52:37] <tjb1> Hey r00t, fix that spaghetti yet?
[23:53:39] <r00t4rd3d> my honda: http://i.imgur.com/R4XKf.jpg
[23:53:48] <JT-Shop> say goodnight Gracie
[23:53:49] <r00t4rd3d> harhar tj
[23:54:16] <JT-Shop> nice, my neighbor has one like that
[23:54:35] <JT-Shop> what size is it
[23:54:37] <r00t4rd3d> xr250r
[23:54:38] <t12> anyone ever swap ball bearings for a ballscrew?
[23:54:53] <JT-Shop> later version of mine I assume
[23:55:04] <r00t4rd3d> yeah kinda
[23:55:16] <JT-Shop> I was looking for a xl250 when I found the xl200r
[23:55:45] <JT-Shop> I like the exhaust better on the xr
[23:56:21] <r00t4rd3d> mine is an 04
[23:56:42] <JT-Shop> mine is a '4
[23:56:50] <r00t4rd3d> sat in a garage for most of its life
[23:57:02] <r00t4rd3d> was bought for a wife and she never rode it, scared.
[23:57:31] <JT-Shop> best kind od deal to find
[23:57:43] * JT-Shop hears the dinner bell ringing
[23:57:50] <r00t4rd3d> i paid 1000 for it