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[00:38:14] <Ekkeri> any idea when 2.5 will be launched?
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[01:52:33] <elmo40> emachineshop is a very smart business
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[01:56:21] <elmo40> injection molding, cnc machining, that etching, I wonder if they plan on doing rapid prototyping with 3D printing. they even do printed circuit boards (I guess they have connections with someone else because it says from pad2pad
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[01:57:05] <elmo40> they do 3D. http://www.emachineshop.com/machine-shop/Machines/page37.html
[01:57:12] <elmo40> huge array of tooling!
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[03:39:38] <MattyMatt> only ABS. that implies they have a stratasys
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[06:20:13] <jtektool> andy pugh on here or is it to late
[06:21:20] <jtektool> had some success loading realtime comedi but dont understand how linuxcnc runs rtai on the fly can anybody enlighten me
[06:21:33] <jtektool> normally you just insert modules
[06:21:46] <jtektool> but here it seems they are loaded as needed in emc
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[06:42:55] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[09:10:22] <alex_joni> mrsun: then the BIOS battery has probably nothing to do with it
[09:10:41] <alex_joni> the BIOS battery is afaik only used while the PC is turned off
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[10:56:27] <maximilian_h> hello
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[10:57:24] <maximilian_h> there are some examples in the wiki from an Austrian retrofit company called LUDA mechatronik. The wiki is using their website address www.cnc-ready.at
[10:57:36] <maximilian_h> but that www.cnc-ready.at is unavailable for me
[10:58:22] <maximilian_h> does anybody know what happened to their website, or is it just me how's having problems accessing their site ?
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[11:03:25] <archivist> dead server/ or someone not paid a bill
[11:06:26] <maximilian_h> yes, maybe, happened to me once too ;) (Forgetting to pay the website's bill) I was just asking because I thought somebody might know more about it. I wanted to have a look at their website, but it's not that important
[11:06:47] <archivist> are you sure that name is correct as there is no dns pointing there
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[11:13:06] <archivist> the wayback machine never got that page :(
[11:19:32] <Jymmm> Just received this yesterday, very very nice... http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire-th-t60-ha-ii-xm-lt60-5-mode-1200-lumen-white-led-flashlight-with-strap-1-x-18650-57007
[11:20:41] <Jymmm> Bought these (true 2400mAh) batteries to go with it... http://www.dealextreme.com/p/trustfire-protected-18650-3-7v-true-2400mah-rechargeable-lithium-batteries-2-pack-20392
[11:22:57] <Jymmm> It puts my 3D LED MagLite to shame
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[11:55:26] <mhaberler> no, cnc-ready.at is down for me as well
[12:06:11] <Jymmm> There is no 'A record' for the domain cnc-ready.at nor www.cnc-ready.at
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[12:26:25] <maximilian_h> try:
[12:26:25] <maximilian_h> dig @ cnc-ready.at ANY
[12:26:25] <maximilian_h> return messages is "domain gesperrt"
[12:26:25] <maximilian_h> which would translate to "domoin blocked/suspended/disabled" depending of the (not available) context
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[12:55:15] <Tectu> how is EMC running on a Pentium 4 2.8GHz and 1 or 2 GB of ram?
[12:56:49] <jthornton> do a latency test from the LiveCD and you will see
[12:57:08] <archivist> Tectu, I used a P4 1.4 gig and a gig of ram, was ok
[12:57:34] <Tectu> what about the animations?
[12:57:51] <archivist> but the latency test is more important for your particular motherboard/video
[12:59:11] <Tectu> well
[12:59:21] <Tectu> http://budgetcomputer.ch/store/Computer/Mini-PC-Dell-Optiplex-GX620.html
[12:59:23] <Tectu> 80€
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[13:00:36] <jthornton> if your buying one look for a D525 Atom and see what you can find
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[13:02:41] <Tectu> well, it's just that that one would be a complete compunter for <80€ (i know the seller, would get it a bit cheaper)
[13:03:00] <Tectu> andi won't get a D525 with case, harddrive etc. for 80€
[13:03:40] <archivist> take the livecd to the box and test
[13:04:11] <archivist> no formatting required to test
[13:04:40] <Tectu> test for what?
[13:05:09] <awallin> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test
[13:07:51] <Tectu> you think that the dell one may have a bad latency?
[13:08:17] <awallin> it's best to test, and not guess/think...
[13:08:41] <Tectu> ok
[13:09:45] <archivist> unless someone has written that motherboard up on the wiki, none of use know
[13:12:03] <Tectu> okay
[13:24:42] <jthornton> Tectu: this is the motherboard database http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test
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[13:37:30] <Tectu> yeah, i got it, thank you
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[14:03:02] <Loetmichel> re @ home...
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[17:19:24] <Gromits> simple question (I think): after i home my z axis, Axis thinks that negative movement is down. I want that to be positive, what do I change?
[17:19:49] <archivist> your brain
[17:20:03] <Gromits> excellent. do you have a link where I can get one?
[17:20:57] <syyl_ws> moving Z down is negative?
[17:21:02] <Gromits> yes
[17:21:12] <syyl_ws> its correct that way
[17:21:46] <syyl_ws> as long as your your milling spindle is mounted to the z-axis
[17:22:16] <syyl_ws> on a knee mill like the bridgeport, z-axis down would be positive
[17:23:29] <cradek> if Z is the knee, knee moving down would be positive
[17:23:44] <cradek> but only because that's moving the tool "up" out of the work
[17:23:57] <cradek> tool-going-up motion is positive Z
[17:24:00] <syyl_ws> the coordinate system is always refering to the tool
[17:24:12] <syyl_ws> not the table, workpiece or something else
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[18:01:27] <IchGucksLive> Hi all around the world
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[18:37:48] <alex4nder-> hey
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[18:40:07] <IchGucksLive> 2days to go for the big party
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[18:58:03] <syyl_ws> no more xmas songs in two days \o/
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[19:02:32] <IchGucksLive> syyl_ws: http://www.christmasradio.org/xmas.php?lang=de
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[20:21:45] <emc_> Im using a cam system and need my servo to do a full rotation and then use the home switch reset absolute 0. Can that be done within g-code?
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[20:27:35] <UncleGman> i recently realized building this machine and running it are two different ballgames
[20:27:48] <archivist> something like that was discussed a while ago, see http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?WrappedRotaryAxes
[20:27:59] <UncleGman> ty
[20:28:38] <archivist> dont think that makes much sense though for some uses
[20:29:00] <UncleGman> yeah i figured this was my only option unless I came up with something on my own
[20:29:50] <UncleGman> I really dont mind it being linear, I just want it to rehome while in cycles
[20:29:53] <archivist> I cut screws on the rotary
[20:30:04] <cradek> you can't home from gcode
[20:30:08] <UncleGman> bummer
[20:30:20] <cradek> forgive me for asking, but why do you think you want to do that?
[20:30:33] <cradek> perhaps there's a different solution if you state the problem you are trying to solve
[20:30:42] <UncleGman> Im using a cam system and I need to keep going in one direction
[20:31:02] <UncleGman> I dont want to back the servo up
[20:31:14] <cradek> maybe you want g92 a0 or something similar
[20:31:33] <cradek> perhaps you can think offsets, not homing
[20:31:46] <UncleGman> ok,
[20:32:13] <UncleGman> it wont multiply each time?
[20:32:22] <cradek> what do you mean multiply?
[20:33:07] <UncleGman> well, my last attempt resulted it in adding the last movement to the next somehow and instead of going back to 0
[20:33:23] <archivist> what does the cam output for more than one turn
[20:33:41] <UncleGman> ?
[20:33:48] <UncleGman> what are you asking?
[20:34:34] <archivist> we are trying to get you to say what you want or need to happen
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[20:36:54] <UncleGman> ok, here is the scenario, I have a servo connecteved to a cam shaft which drives 4 slides, I use the servo to control feed rate and essentially when to move. After the cam shaft has rotated 360 degrees. and my part is cut off. instead of roatating again in the same direction I have to drive backwards through the cams to 0
[20:37:24] <UncleGman> I want to eliminate this backwards movement
[20:37:50] <cradek> it sounds like you need to fix the gcode, which is why archivist asked you what your cam generates
[20:38:01] <UncleGman> yes most likely
[20:38:08] <archivist> and I think that is what the wrapped rotary is for
[20:39:05] <archivist> cam to use usually means software generating the code
[20:39:11] <archivist> use/us
[20:39:12] <UncleGman> I assumed so, however in my scenario I would really prefer a rout through g-code
[20:39:51] <UncleGman> oh, ohhh
[20:39:54] <UncleGman> yes
[20:39:58] <UncleGman> cam not CAM
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[20:41:15] <archivist> sounds like an old cam auto retrofit
[20:42:01] <UncleGman> I could use the wrapped rotary I just assumed I was missing a simple fix which I could use my home switch to trigger
[20:42:20] <UncleGman> yeah Ill link u if you look close I crash it
[20:42:35] <skunkworks> emc has a home once model :)
[20:42:54] <UncleGman> http://huntingtonscrew.com/cnc.mp4
[20:44:34] <archivist> is that a sliding head?
[20:44:41] <UncleGman> ?
[20:44:57] <UncleGman> the turret?
[20:45:06] <archivist> also known as a swiss type lathe
[20:45:11] <UncleGman> oh no
[20:45:22] <UncleGman> more like a single spindle screw machine
[20:45:29] <UncleGman> like a brown and sharpe
[20:46:01] <UncleGman> automatic turret lathe :/
[20:46:46] <archivist> one day my nest project will be http://www.archivist.info/cnc/works2008b/P1010226.JPG
[20:46:50] <archivist> next
[20:47:08] <archivist> that is a sliding head cam auto
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[20:47:33] <UncleGman> cute
[20:47:49] <UncleGman> you got tool holders?
[20:48:18] <archivist> you can see them just uses 1/4" hss
[20:48:56] <archivist> has a parting tool in it
[20:49:07] <UncleGman> ha
[20:49:08] <UncleGman> cool
[20:49:13] <UncleGman> I didnt even notice
[20:49:33] <UncleGman> this index machine is really fun
[20:49:37] <archivist> the bottom part of tools are on one cam/rocker
[20:49:42] <archivist> pair
[20:49:45] <UncleGman> right
[20:50:43] <UncleGman> more pics?
[20:51:06] <archivist> not taken more yet
[20:51:23] <UncleGman> Ill get some of the index machine and a part im currently running
[20:51:49] <UncleGman> It has a reverse spindle trip and spindle speed change so Im rolltapping from the turret :P
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[21:01:24] <UncleGman> Im listening to furthur cover pink floyd thumbs up
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[21:16:43] <alex4nder-> hey
[21:17:41] <andypugh> PCW: You know you said sserial didn't work properly if the channels had defaulted on? I am not sure sserial works at all...
[21:17:57] <Gromits> I want to try running my gantry using trivkins (now runs with gantrykins - 2 motors on Y axis). How do I slave two axes (Y and A, I assume) in a trivkins config?
[21:18:30] <andypugh> Gromits: Why A? Call it X2.
[21:18:45] <Gromits> Is Trivkins (and EMC) ok with naming it that?
[21:18:48] <andypugh> You just add both stepgens to the same net.
[21:19:25] <andypugh> You have free choice of signal names.
[21:20:22] <PCW> Andy: This is second hand from a customer so I'm not sure if his reports are accurate
[21:20:23] <PCW> (One possible error that might have crept in is not setting all modes to 0 when they are not specified)
[21:20:36] <andypugh> net ThisIsXandX2command axis.0.motor-pos-cmd => stepgen.0.position-command stepgen.3.position-command
[21:20:53] <Gromits> i'll give it a try, thx Andy
[21:21:02] <andypugh> PCW: Is it a happy customer?
[21:21:31] <andypugh> Because for me just now, I couldn't turn on output LEDs for 7i64 or 7i71
[21:23:48] <PCW> Yes after inserting a valid sserial_port_0= token
[21:24:42] <PCW> (he has 5I25/7I76)
[21:26:39] <andypugh> I was working with a 5i23.
[21:28:20] <andypugh> The indicators on a 7i71 should come on even with no load, right?
[21:30:49] <PCW> Yes
[21:31:18] <FinboySlick> andypugh: How goes the motor prototype?
[21:31:30] <PCW> Andy Is this with no sserial=
[21:39:30] <Gromits> andypugh: "COORDINATES = X Y Z The names of the axes being controlled. X, Y, Z, A, B, C, U, V, and W are all valid." So should I have X,Y,Z, and then still define Axis_0, Axis_1, Axis_2, and Axis_3 in the hal and ini files or do I need to have X,Y,Z, and A?
[21:50:04] <UncleGman> (thanks Gromits, i was trying to word that exact same question In need of adding a rotary system)
[21:53:40] <Gromits> Ok, this is making my head hurt. For my Y axis I have:
[21:53:45] <Gromits> net Y.pos-fb axis.1.motor-pos-fb <= hm2_7i43.0.encoder.01.position => pid.1.feedback
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[21:54:54] <Gromits> net Y.pos-cmd axis.1.motor-pos-cmd => pid.1.command
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[21:59:01] <Gromits> net Y.enable axis.1.amp-enable-out => hm2_7i43.0.stepgen.01.enable => pid.1.enable
[21:59:01] <Gromits> net Y.pos-out pid.1.output => hm2_7i43.0.stepgen.01.velocity-cmd
[21:59:01] <Gromits> net y-index-enable axis.1.index-enable <=> hm2_7i43.0.encoder.01.index-enable
[21:59:01] <Gromits> Now I need to make encoder.03, pid.3, and stepgen.03 all use the same net names?
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[21:59:56] <Gromits> how can I possibly pipe both encoder.01.position and encoder.03.position into axis.1.motor-pos-fb (for example)?
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[22:02:27] <andypugh> PCW: Mine wasn't working _with_ a sserial...
[22:02:40] <andypugh> But I might not have been petting the watchdog
[22:02:54] <andypugh> Now the system is blowing the fuse..
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[22:03:19] <andypugh> Gromits: You can put as many "readers" in a net as you want.
[22:03:48] <andypugh> But only one encoder can drive one feedback pin
[22:04:54] <andypugh> You will just have to choose which motor is capable of causing a f-error
[22:06:08] <Gromits> I still want to have each motor in it's own pid though, yes?
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[22:06:39] <andypugh> Yes, 2 separate PIDs.
[22:06:46] <Gromits> but then only have one pid output to both stepgen velocity cmds?
[22:07:19] <andypugh> No. Or Yes. What carzy system is this?
[22:07:45] <Gromits> Crazy? :-)
[22:08:09] <syyl_> mhm
[22:08:16] <syyl_> tried friction drilling today...
[22:08:25] <syyl_> with simplest equipment
[22:08:39] <andypugh> Gromits: PID and stepgen and encoders
[22:08:48] <syyl_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6TNFi0PDg4&list=UUY8gSLTqvs38bR9X061jFWw&index=1&feature=plcp
[22:08:49] <syyl_> ;)
[22:09:00] <Gromits> It is servo motors (with encoders obviously), being drivin from velocity mode stepgen. Granite devices vxd's are driving them.
[22:09:53] <andypugh> OK.
[22:10:06] <Gromits> seems to work fine other than the pile of bugs that appear to be in gantrykins. Hence we want to try trivkins.
[22:10:38] <andypugh> I will ask about the bugs later (trying to eat)
[22:11:25] <andypugh> But, the same motor-pos-cmd goes to both PIDs. Each PID has feedback from it's own encoder, and drives its own stepgen.
[22:11:54] <andypugh> One of the encoders needs to also go to the motor-pos-fb pin.
[22:12:37] <andypugh> For fun, you could add the two encoder positions, divide by 2 and use that as feedback..
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[22:15:39] <elmo40> http://www.bikeforest.com/CAD/recumbentCAD.html
[22:15:53] <elmo40> anyone interested in recumbent bicycles?
[22:16:05] <andypugh> I have a passing interest
[22:16:53] <Gromits> so do I have axis.3.FOO at all?
[22:17:56] <Gromits> in TRAJ I have AXES=3 and COORDINATES= X Y Z.
[22:18:03] <Gromits> right?
[22:18:28] <Gromits> Or should I have AXES=4 and COORD=X Y Z A? Or something else?
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[22:24:06] <Gromits> I pasted the two Y-motor configs to: http://pastebin.com/P0CGwbJT Can you tell me if that looks right?
[22:26:29] <Gromits> I must be wrong, it seems too simple. The only change is near the bottom where I pipe the same position command to PID.3 as was sent to PID.1...
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[22:30:28] <andypugh> That should be all you need, you can even read the parameters from the same section of the INI file for both PIDs/Motors/Encoders if you want.
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[22:43:56] <Gromits> hmmm.... I used: AXES=3 and COORDINATES= X Y Z. But that means I don't have an axis.3.ANYTHING now. My config was based on that, so I guess I have to go through and remove everything related to axis.3.
[22:45:19] <Gromits> re: using same section of ini... I will at least have to have separate settings for the scale since one motor has to turn in the opposite direction.
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[22:54:10] <xavier_> Hi all
[22:54:48] <xavier_> I get a problem with EMC master loading the sim manual tool change
[22:55:25] <xavier_> the first time I run the gcode, everything goes well
[22:56:01] <xavier_> i can do the manual tool change with the probe
[22:56:09] <xavier_> (tool probe)
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[22:57:19] <xavier_> But when I rerun the same gcode I get the error message M7x : restore_settings failed: 'F0.0 G1 G49'
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[22:57:44] <xavier_> Anyone get the same message?
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[22:58:47] <xavier_> mhaberler are you here?
[22:58:53] <mhaberler> yes
[22:59:23] <mhaberler> oh, I see
[22:59:36] <xavier_> As I said I compile the last EMC master from source (git)
[22:59:41] <mhaberler> ok
[22:59:59] <mhaberler> did you have g43 on?
[23:00:16] <xavier_> I don't change the example config
[23:00:20] <xavier_> let me check
[23:01:11] <mhaberler> are you talking about http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=tree;f=configs/sim/remap/manual-toolchange-with-tool-length-switch;h=bba1be79b02d82fec7873c949ef661a26cfef2b8;hb=e693cca20504dd8d3195abceca97e21fa58bf752 ?
[23:01:29] <xavier_> yes
[23:01:39] <xavier_> exact
[23:01:50] <mhaberler> let me look a sec
[23:02:03] <xavier_> # turn on all optional features except RETAIN_G43 line 140
[23:02:22] <mhaberler> fair enough
[23:03:51] <mhaberler> was a G1 in progress when you did the Txm6?
[23:04:50] <xavier_> I don't remember, now the program skip the probe?!
[23:05:02] <xavier_> I will restart EMC2
[23:06:15] <xavier_> first run => everythink ok
[23:06:48] <xavier_> wait line 15 G00 Z #1 for tool change
[23:06:51] <mhaberler> no changes to setup at all, demo as per distribution?
[23:07:17] <xavier_> It run in a virtualmachine
[23:07:22] <mhaberler> fine, me too
[23:07:31] <mhaberler> line 15 of file?
[23:07:32] <xavier_> I install the iso from linuxcnc
[23:07:49] <xavier_> get the source from git
[23:07:52] <xavier_> compile
[23:08:10] <mhaberler> a recent master from git?
[23:08:12] <xavier_> . ./script/emc-environement
[23:08:15] <xavier_> emc
[23:08:24] <xavier_> EMC 2.6 etc...
[23:08:29] <mhaberler> ok
[23:08:46] <xavier_> this time it work again... damn it!
[23:08:59] <mhaberler> the issue could be that M73 save and auto restore isnt able to cope with all kinds of settings combinations which are active on entry
[23:09:16] <mhaberler> this is used in manual_change.ngc
[23:09:37] <xavier_> I get a other error now...
[23:09:48] <mhaberler> which is?
[23:09:49] <xavier_> no sorry
[23:10:10] <xavier_> M6 aborded because no probe contact
[23:10:16] <xavier_> false alert
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[23:11:01] <xavier_> for the issue, do you know why it occurs?
[23:11:50] <mhaberler> I'd like to reproduce it beforehand
[23:11:56] <xavier_> the issue occurs again
[23:12:16] <mhaberler> give me 5mins, I will pull and build a master her
[23:12:25] <xavier_> how to determine which line was the last one?
[23:12:36] <xavier_> thank you
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[23:17:06] <mhaberler> what do the first five lines of 'git log' say in your emc2 directory?
[23:17:20] <alex4nder-> hey
[23:18:19] <xavier_> the issue occured line 44 for sure
[23:18:41] <xavier_> you want make me a git pull?
[23:19:05] <mhaberler> no, I want you to do a 'git log' in your emc dir and see the first few lines
[23:19:06] <xavier_> xavier@xavier-desktop:~/Bureau/emc2-dev$ git pull
[23:19:06] <xavier_> Already up-to-date.
[23:19:37] <mhaberler> to make sure we are using the same commit
[23:19:53] ee is now known as adb
[23:20:58] <xavier_> how to get this info (sorry I not used to git)
[23:21:12] <xavier_> I see a .git folder
[23:21:16] <mhaberler> cd Bureau/emc2-dev
[23:21:19] <mhaberler> git log|head -5
[23:21:30] <mhaberler> post output here with copy & pastee
[23:21:43] <xavier_> xavier@xavier-desktop:~/Bureau/emc2-dev$ git log|head -5
[23:21:43] <xavier_> commit e693cca20504dd8d3195abceca97e21fa58bf752
[23:21:43] <xavier_> Author: Michael Haberler <git@mah.priv.at>
[23:21:43] <xavier_> Date: Wed Dec 14 23:56:42 2011 +0100
[23:21:43] <xavier_> docs/gcode: source highlight touchups
[23:21:50] <mhaberler> ok, thanks
[23:22:20] <mhaberler> its building here. when done, you will guide me to the failure.
[23:23:02] <xavier_> ok, it quite simple just run the gcode twice
[23:23:45] <mhaberler> ok it built. I cd to configs/sim/remap/manual-tool-change-with-tool-length-switch
[23:23:57] <mhaberler> I run 'emc manualtoolchange.ini'
[23:24:00] <mhaberler> then what
[23:24:16] <xavier_> run the default gcode
[23:24:35] <xavier_> the first time no falure
[23:24:38] <xavier_> failure
[23:24:41] <mhaberler> steps please. estop off, machine on, run?
[23:24:46] <xavier_> ok
[23:24:53] <xavier_> estop off
[23:24:59] <xavier_> machine on
[23:25:39] <xavier_> origine machine (i don't kown the name of the english button)
[23:25:52] <xavier_> and run
[23:26:02] <mhaberler> aha, you mean 'Home all'
[23:26:11] <xavier_> yes
[23:26:20] <mhaberler> let me see
[23:27:02] <mhaberler> ok, program runs, the yellow led comes up, I click 'change complete'
[23:27:27] <mhaberler> I click 'Simulate probe contact' while green led is on
[23:27:31] <mhaberler> program continues
[23:27:33] <xavier_> for the first change, just click on "change complete" then during probe on "Simulate probe contact"
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[23:27:55] <mhaberler> ok, program runs fine here until second toolchange
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[23:27:58] <xavier_> ok you are faster to write than me!
[23:28:22] <xavier_> yes the first run of the program runs well
[23:28:29] <xavier_> fine
[23:28:59] <xavier_> same operation for the second tool change
[23:29:09] <mhaberler> now what, run again?
[23:29:16] <xavier_> yes
[23:29:47] <xavier_> the error will occured at the first tool probe
[23:30:09] <mhaberler> AHA! have it. got the error!
[23:30:19] <xavier_> AHA!!!
[23:30:29] <xavier_> I am not crazy!!!! ;-)
[23:30:44] <adb> quoi que ...
[23:30:47] <xavier_> good news!
[23:30:50] <mhaberler> ok: this is the way how you 'file a bug report'. You use the bugtracker, and do exactly what we have done now.
[23:30:58] <xavier_> comment a ;-)
[23:31:31] <mhaberler> ok, I will look into it - still: can you file a report?
[23:32:01] <xavier_> yes I can try
[23:32:10] <mhaberler> the reason is: assume I fix it, and the fix isnt perfect - other people can figure what happened without reading a ton of IRC logs
[23:32:16] <xavier_> I just need to report all we done?
[23:32:20] <mhaberler> it really helps, thanks
[23:32:38] <xavier_> where is the bugtracker?
[23:32:42] <mhaberler> yes, just guide a dumb developer like me to reproduce your setup and error
[23:32:57] <mhaberler> you read the wiki and find it there, hold on
[23:33:41] <mhaberler> on front page, bugtracker -> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Trackers
[23:33:46] <andypugh> I found a broken link on the web page...
[23:33:47] <xavier_> ok i will do that, I hope the "dumb developer" can read the frenchies english ;-)
[23:34:19] <andypugh> The bug tracker link at http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/community is broked.
[23:34:23] <xavier_> Thank you again for all this work
[23:34:44] <mhaberler> well, lets fix it before you send a box of Chablis ;)
[23:34:53] <mhaberler> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=6744&atid=106744
[23:35:19] <mhaberler> andypugh: yet, that ones broken too
[23:35:54] <xavier_> I prefer Bordeau...
[23:35:59] <mhaberler> xavier_: I need to look into it and see what failed. drop me an email address
[23:36:30] <PCW> andy: I can duplicate the customers error (no sserial token = all pins are shown but sserial is not running (no blinky greens on remotes))
[23:36:31] <xavier_> xavier.horsot@gmail.com
[23:37:03] <mhaberler> ok, I try to make it a fix for Xmas
[23:37:15] <xavier_> Xmas?
[23:37:20] <mhaberler> Christmas?
[23:37:25] <adb> noel
[23:37:33] <xavier_> christmas
[23:37:37] <xavier_> ola
[23:37:48] <xavier_> adb tu es bilingue?
[23:37:57] <adb> -3 days ,oui
[23:38:03] <mhaberler> yes, but that doesnt include french
[23:38:03] <PCW> Also there seems to be an error in handling type" bits" for >31 bits
[23:41:04] <xavier_> ok thank you, can you send me your postal address for sending to you a good bottle of wine in return?
[23:41:40] <mhaberler> Michael Haberler, Stiwoll 75, A8113 Stiwoll, Austria (applicable post-fix only ;-)
[23:42:22] <xavier_> ok thanks wath did you prefer red or white?
[23:42:27] <PCW> Andy: looks like a signed/unsigned problem (arith shift vs logical shift?)
[23:42:29] <xavier_> do you prefer
[23:42:37] <mhaberler> in that order
[23:43:51] <mhaberler> actually in reverse order: white for Hors d'œuvre
[23:44:03] <mhaberler> red for finale furioso
[23:45:15] <xavier_> ?!
[23:45:23] <xavier_> hors d'oeuvre ok
[23:45:34] <xavier_> finale furioso?!
[23:45:52] <mhaberler> dessert
[23:46:49] <xavier_> white for fish or dessert
[23:47:25] <xavier_> red for meat and cheese
[23:47:49] <xavier_> (real cheese not the one in burger ;-) )
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